please ramps, raska, 200 people has sunk in the gmc around the world. more than 300000000 people are seeking refuge. we ask why? because no one should have to flee. to make up your own mind. d. w for mines. ah! mister breathless, thank you so much for taking your time and talking exclusively to the public broadcasters across the whole europe and the whole world at this extraordinary time . one of my name is angelina cook. i kina and i'm from the ukrainian public broadcaster. thank you very much. for taking the time to talk to us to the world's public broadcasters, at this incredibly difficult time warner conway of single month. mr. president,

thank you very much for 1st question. how are you? i'm, can you tell us more though you cousin life this week? i know it's not about you with your re said that we like to know. you see, well, you have yourself, you see of you, you have hope we will, but she yaki 1st, how am i a choice? i feel fine. no, my room. the yellow side believe that i'm not sick yet, and i am a perfectly healthy man lee, which not only me, i understand exactly what is happening to which no reminders, you know, i make accurate decisions, calmly ship there was little woodland on that. i think it's important for us to be very balanced now. i'm not sure the school him because our military is showing its strength level because of them. it is also necessary to show balance them in when to remain strong fighters, but to defend the state had no singer, nodded dora,

at the same time, to show attitude even to the enemy. she moved to show human attitude. lost all alice. sheila spoke doris, switch chemo bleach out. it is very important for me that people see that we are defending our state to his, of his shot. but i repeat it with a human face that we do not torture people. woodson era without them when we are showing that we are ready to defend he and not ready, so to speak. we had to win at any cost us in the because this is not a game nozzle. and so we are highlighting the difference between the people who came to invade our state, who came to our land, which said it is very important for us to show that our people are fighting in a civilized way. that is very important. give you was it the me, i'm more focused it because a lot of things depend on me. it's

a group. i want to give only the positive that since not in the sense of smiling law diversely but positive in terms of my actions. in other words, that we shanda gonzales and i do not want to harm any of our citizens in the phil naval museum. got people are important is because you see that the people themselves are defending our state, say this means that they are, are most important and possibly only treasure and protection for lisa. this is our iron dome. this is our security union. this is our people. just like us, yahoo, da da, regarding what i read now. i don't read fiction right now to be honest. i love it. oh, but i understand that i can't sure i read the 1st page. but then by the 2nd, i'm already thinking about what's happening here with that in korea. so i read the 2nd page again, one professional because i didn't take in what i had read there. none the little

girl was studying. got ocean isn't me. then i move on to the 3rd and forget again, but because the head of the brain are clogged up with other processes, other decisions it's, it's difficult to relax a unit or a forward this squad in the loft. mr. president, the ukraine is going through a very hard time, but also it seems united as never a. do you think that this historical change is thinking place not only in ukraine, but in, in the whole world may be men, maybe in europe and what, what is to be at the center of this historical change? it seeds, anita vincent in the world will change, resemble it has already changed. we are politicians are already afraid of their people. why to they are afraid of social responsibility, not or they. they see that people are reacting differently. you bought your the rama and in many countries, not all the people support us, 100 percent storage. so the gift,

but their leaders do not support us 100 percent for the gym for one reason or another one ivy probably other. so what brought the show, i'm not saying here who is right, don't go what it means that social and public opinion will be stronger than any leader in the world. but i mean the but assess the vehicle. that is to say, i mean, we are all seeing changes in processes slide changes that lead not just to theoretical but to popular democracy. but as of that office, the laser, at ion, of a lot of the popular democracy is not a revolution yet, should be democracy. is 1st and foremost power of the people, but they said would be lead the if you want to be the leader of your society. so hopefully you have to be the leader of society, not to command of a normal do, but to be a leader and live with them in the same spirit on the line. you will, she does that as a reason. why is it? yes, campus therefore to change it seems to me that this popular democracy is taking place

in the world in she was and that this will lead to certain security alliance of that ha, i am confident that there will be new security alliances in the future. they said said no, this does not mean that it's necessary to leave any union right to me. it does not mean that it is necessary to destroy things that work oh, gloom. no, it does not mean that we have announced was people just want piece, tranquillity, stability, and most importantly, only confidence. okay, so look at what, all one of them here in all these challenges. confidence again, you should be at the new cove it or god forbid, war to a gym where none of these a person who lives pays taxes or who resides here was born or came here. football is a citizen of the world for peace enough to win us not to show another maya, and this person must know that they must be protected in this country range when

i'm wooded thumb. and if this person leads for another country, the person will be protected there, but at the campbell, the person will not suffer a bull pretty much a month in eve, breed that the world is facing just such a challenge. for sure. it will either accept this model and come to such alliances for you, or there will be a change of many world leaders, and their societies will find proper people for themselves that you want to present on one of the pi. acosta. so, no, i, yes. so, so the, mr. president, my, as you can for me, i have a question regarding these alliances or war losing the have you thought about not joining me down? we're considering the ward id and all external threats that are incoming. it more of okay in the, the, a little long beach in the broadening it does not. he if considered janasia broadening in the constitution, yet we have our intentions with nato diesel switches are,

there is ambiguity from nato in relation to our acceptance in the alliance of malachi. there is clarity from some countries which see us belonging there. he and only with them, not that at the, at a minimum, at least one 3rd of all countries do not see us. there. he, probably some of them will not say publicly so that they'll accept us. they're ob, inches we, most of them are afraid to talk about it publicly and off the keep over the phone with all of its silkwood dillman. that is why we need to revert to the previous question and we'll show but it's just a feasible. they think that society will pressure them more. yeah. was i should have a resilient than that they give good before you the g o, the level, the jewel as the level of liberal, bowling therefore to evil. i think we need to divide this up into several approaches for this mighty challenge. feet for months. in general, we need to find

a format in which we have an understanding of whether russia wants to stop the war . one will proceed inside, otherwise, we may not get to all the rest that she will enough in principle, it concerns whether russia wants it or whether russia is even able to do it. mean show of one or more that the little with the more. when able to give, we understand that russia is able to do it, he won, or disney or will face problems due to sanction or internal pressure. thou magazine that, that conflicts within its borders. it only was me in the empty shelves at shaw receive, get the issue or change a political elite, iraqi, which are caused by the war against us, isabel still, and we exact and we understand that all these things we have launched with our western partners together. this is not the case, but fickle. then we will have taken the 1st step towards the union needed in the world enough to long wars. by being united would you believe that we can stop them

any aggressor? a moment in this moment i should look, that is why i believe in my meeting with the president of the russian federation that i'm in any format. and for my i repeated again e i and i have repeated it and proposed it for several years. so you've got oak narrative killed them. sure. throttle nashville in the cylinder. i know only one thing. liberal, but you just our future will not forgive us for the loss of our population. never much. and i'm not sure that our state will not forgive us for the loss of our people nominate from watching nothing. my boy, our future generations will not forgive us for the loss of our territories, national denali be. they will ask us, what were we fighting for some new ice yet? because it's showing us what i want to know exactly where we are you really skilled it yet, you know, who are our friends?

i and who doubts us. g again, it wishes that i'm not saying we have enemies in the west. literally will know lima hubbard's each. there are people who are ready for anything on our behalf. yes god, there are those who are not ready that they sent me a need lankin. thus that is all going is with of fish and therefore him forward. and it is important when we talk about certain compromises. he needed. she not she loued, but then you just thought call him. and i said, when i became the president, cuvee knows that we cannot give up any part of our land but thine. ya, because we must do everything for don, boss, and crimea to return that the, this is not a platitude. all our people believe in think so as of the question now is when can we stop this war with you? one, there is no need for russia to shout harsh rhetoric. the problem need that we have an ultimatum india or it will not lead to anything new. meaning,

we have an ultimatum to give. dorman, here are the points on the show load the you will fulfill them. and then we will end the war. the most of all the month, even more than with with the month with you martin this was, this is incorrect. it a lead nowhere. one. the question doesn't concern only me. so this question concerns the fact that the people and government are united enough to believe we're not all going to be able to do that. you model, you can't do that with ultimatums. ultimatums will not be fulfilled by ukraine. if not, we just cannot comply with it. physically, now we've lost people, our people know, how can we do it? me? i, all of us would be destroyed by then their ultimatum will be automatically fulfilled . then for example, says give us hockey. yes, for example, give us mario both will give us, give me stuff me little, but neither harkey nor mario paul, nor key residence, nor the president will be able to do this, that you would and we even see it in the occupied cities and melly topple,

embed yonce came when they enter, people will notify each other, but at least now they raised the flag and people take it down. sigma they killed a man, so people hid and came at night and remove the flag. would you, michael? well, what do you want to destroy every once in the width of what was the of them with each? that is why i said we will fulfill an ultimatum. only when we do not exist me think about you can automatically capture the city, but you will live there by yourself in that you will work there by yourself to work with you. mark, the people will either leave the city or those who cannot leave, will fight to the end. therefore, an ultimatum as a bad thing that out, because it will lead to genocide and the destruction of the ukrainian people at the sheriff's bookstore. we are so energized. now involved in crashing, therefore it comes down to dialogue, e navita's. as i mentioned, that we are for peace. when i was i repeated again, the even no matter how difficult it is would be, it is better than war. and even though we hate these troops that are out there with

them with, he's the go very. but i would miss little the right word is negotiation domo lot negotiate. however, you can put a data, but negotiate, do not execute ultimatums on the vehicle in the lucky. this is an important point. them live among a compromise can be found in dialogue. lament for me any compromises are relevant because as you know, this hatred will be for every word, for every demand, for every course. not for every guarantor of security because no we more for every one goes in all you understand, right? of course, the time must pass, leaky the cause, know of what of what it means that, that therefore, if of, if they want to end the war, hulu, the actual, they must agree on a ceasefire. withdraw true civil war. then presidents, meat sca agree that troops are withdrawn at the city and that there are certain

security guarantors. sure. yet here you can find a compromise. becky, with morgan, there are certain guarantors of our security issue that aren't that enough with they must say tomorrow that they are accepting ukraine into nato. and not being unclear any more submission of or say that we're not accepting it now of them. if only that is true, mutual and in the court, and they themselves understand that they do not want to go with russia. so they do not accept us when she was at roosevelt, nothing but with them. we shall bl yet, and i see what he said. the answer is very simple, this book would, we already understand everything key were not accepted because they are afraid of russia and, and not that yet. that's all it would that. and then we need to calm down and say that i know more mum the say, ok, we need other security guarantees loyal with 5th it. sure, there are nato member states that want to be the guarantors of our security, which unfortunately not a can't provide us full membership in the alliance,

but are ready to do everything that the alliance would have to do. now if we were members of the alliance yoga, which i deal with and i think that's a normal compromise, it's a compromise for every one knew what for the western which does not know what to do with us in the nato issue for ukraine and not which one security guarantees, and for russia, you don't, which does not want to let nato expand further. go commend says that it has had such agreements with nato countries with the west that i see this in the door. and so when me, a compromise must be found in this because this will be the end of the war of it in the pony for russia, this is not the end. there is this public letter. i don't know by whom i don't remember by the minister of foreign affairs or by the president of russia, and that is namo. stop talking to us with phrases like, di, not suffocation, et cetera. but we immediately said that this sounds like an ultimatum, this point,

and we do not tolerate this novel because as soon as we are accused of naziism by people who follow in the footsteps of naziism is one with us. then we will not be able to tolerate at least that therefore public rhetoric can be anything. it's the business of every state in this world. but this will not be binding rhetoric, jill. and then would mr. president, a clarification, where are crimea and don boss in this valley, and we're cause they will come later that of that's why i'm talking about approaches. watched isolate, i'll finish now. i think this is a very difficult narrative for every one he showed on both crimea. and don voss, it was a with a it will be hard to digest or every one. and he was put like each and to find a way out. we need to take this 1st step, which is as i've said, we, the security guarantees the end of the war bullet fitted toward football at the same time. we should also agreed that we are resolving the issue of temporarily

occupied territories. though we have to resolve it, but after the end of the war, say, why? because everything is very hot, as i've said, it be said very hot with lost. and so this blockade will end where it is. and after this blockade, please, let's talk be you month. i will knock at the 1st meeting with the president of russia. what senior i am ready to raise these issues. they are relevant for us. the occupied territories are important. don't wish you yet, but i'm sure that this decision will not arise in this meeting. one is doing the worth of because there is, how do you say if we're completely frank mot, we will have to talk about constitutional changes with changes in ukrainian legislation when it comes to security guarantees already. but so, and if we talk about it, we'll bottle, it will, in any case, be decided not only by the president of legislative, but as it is quite a long process with the will usually by both the parliament and the people of

ukraine. equally old. and when i say the people of ukraine, but in these negotiations with the russian federation, we will still arrive to these negotiations as we've explained. filled nobody them? yup. we as often will. i did not meet with russian negotiators, alyssa, but with our negotiating groups, there you go level, i explained to them. you look, when you talk about certain changes which might be historic, we will not avoid those, but then we will put them to referendums. not all of the people will have to say and respond to some of the compromise formats you mentioned. but what they'll be as a matter of our conversation and understanding between ukraine and russia after those moly euros in me, a mutual great mercy. i really want to every, every day about it with your cripple reform

division. i don't know, i do. i have, i can tell you with whom i have at we're in many too many connections. not too many . i mean, a re ah, i have many, a lot of connections with the, ah, whether do done angie, do them. i have many connections with micron. i have for connections, many connection with borders. johnson ha, ah, with allah, my thing. baltic multi countries. okay, so what are your, prefer? the director who i prefer with my wife a, sorry job curriculum,

lupus at the was scottish true, i would like to ask what you would say to ukrainians when they see russian troops through their windows in their villages, towns, when you showed no apportion action was recorded also in your interview to cnn, you mentioned that if negotiations with island fail and then there's a risk of world war 3. what did you mean by that? is a threat is with the voice in the showroom mulling over the upward him don't korean, she'll move. no was, it's as much as sure as to what i meant in the raft is that putin doesn't have plans to end this war year old blonde or grey has ukraine is only a path he is going down, which is to continue on to europe. as of says, the rock, 1st of all, multi taking baltic states that give little of the countries that were part of the ussr in the making, blah. and then other countries that had so be it armies yet. and were under soviet

influence upon the full will more phil, i have been saying this to our partners, including mister schultz. r a he school that they might end up with russian troops at their borders. show bush, marcia, but then we can certainly see that it would be world war 3 said will the torsion already show far negotiations fail never but go with then we can confidently say that it's not by accident that he's asking for demands that will be rejected by ukraine with bank of can he setting demands which we cannot agree to when is the model? if before saying that though, they simply didn't want peace before us, when the person is what you will boykin and then russia will go full force towards the borders of european or nato countries. cecily feel it would be world war 3, horrible. her korean them give rope with integrating them escalade and latham

to will do that. oh, if you, if you were going to meet with him in to him and kim, what, what did you want me to tell you? what would be yolanda mother, the simple, i think she'll been this is she, even as i will try to cover everything perplexing a little thing and say everything that ukrainian people think the dial in detail that a moline and if i had the opportunity them by fine the sheer we would cover every topic animal. for the of them we need very some on way. she ne, will we resolved them all? should justine was wonderful which up? no problem with the but partially edition e most important of which is to stop the war and them and let them understand that

by destroying us, he will only destroy himself young, which is a weight. obviously with story. i don't want us to be known in history as a nation that doesn't exist when you have for the dental as a president or i don't want this destiny for our country and people are live on me . yeah, shobel those mission one is 90 degrees. one is elisha mr. presented. this is the biggest, the 50 crisis in europe since the 2nd world war. the 1000000 people left their homes inside ukraine, 3 and half 1000000 people are abroad. what would be your message to those people who are abroad and to, to people and countries to them in g, q, t, your net? sure. because did this and where everybody needs to become ukranian, i mean at least temporarily seemed almost to feel in their own skin. each other

start to know that it's a war and that you can lose everything that they will not the thought, your life that, that, that, and everything that matters to you that efficient to be thorough richardson to feel that pain, he b, not just be concerned that they're both of the stuff about the call it the, the choice there with it. so when you are feeling wonderful, you will do what you can to stop this cause know them because people that of no matter who they are and what they do is sweet. they still think about themselves 1st to the about their life that process. so what they can do for their own life is to be ukrainians to florida standard. great. deborah. sure. so thank you so much. i'm the usual

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