ah ah mister president, thank you so much for taking your time and talking exclusively to the public broadcasters across the whole europe and the whole world. and this extraordinary time. my name is angelina cook, i kina and i'm from the ukrainian public broadcaster. thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us to the world's public broadcasters. at this incredibly difficult time, wasn't going single month. you saw president. thank you very much for question. how

are you? i'm can you tell us more about your cousin like these been? i know it's not about you with you, said you like to use it. well, yes, i said, you see, you have to, we are papa. she yaki 1st, how am i a choice? i feel fine. nor my room yellow 5 believe that i'm not sick yet. and i am a perfectly healthy man lee. which not only me, i understand exactly what is happening to which no reminders, you know, i make accurate decisions. calmly. shit. there was a little atlanta that i think it's important for us to be very balanced now, not sure the school him, because our military is showing its strength, unable because of them. it is also necessary to show balance them in when to remain strong fighters. but to defend the state had no singer,

nivea dora at the same time, to show attitude even to the enemy, didn't want to show human attitude, lost all alice sheriff's hostess schema. i believe it is very important for me that people see that we are defending our state of his shot, but i repeat it with a human face that we do not torture people, woodson era. without them we are showing that we are ready to defend. he and not ready, so to speak. we had to win at any cost us and that because this is not a game nozzle. and so we are highlighting the difference between the people who came to invade our state, who came to our land, who said it is very important for us to show that our people are fighting in a civilized way. that is very important. give you positive. no, i'm more focused it because a lot of things depend on me. it's so gross. i want to give only the positive,

dim change of not in the sense of smiling low diversely but positive in terms of my actions. in other words, that we shy, not from the results, and i do not want to harm any of our citizens in the until my hello new she's got people are important is because you see that the people themselves are defending our state. say this means that they are, are most important and possibly only treasure and protection. so this is our iron dome. this is our security union. this is our people just like garcia who donated that other regarding what i read. now i don't read fiction right now to be honest. i love it, i'll, but i understand that i can't sure i read the 1st page. but then by the 2nd, i'm already thinking about what's happening here with that in korea. so i read the 2nd page again, one professional because i didn't take in what i had read there,

none. the little girl was studying collision as it was in me. then i move on to the 3rd and forget again. but because the head of the brain are clogged up with other processes, other decisions in so it's difficult to relax. are you seen what a fall with this squad in the love mr. president? the ukraine is going through to very hard time. but also it seems united as never no, do you think that the, this historical change is thinking place not only in ukraine, but in, in the whole world may be men may be in europe and what, what is to be at the center of this historical change it see the means it means visual in the the world will change, resemble, it has already changed. we are politicians are already afraid of their people, but they are afraid of social responsibility. not all of them. they see that people are reacting differently. if you're the rama and in many countries, not all the people support us, 100 percent storage. so the gift,

but their leaders do not support us 100 percent for the gym for one reason or another on ivy probably i'll it. so what it brought there? sure, i'm not saying here who is right, don't come. what it means that social and public opinion will be stronger than any leader in the world. but it says mainly, but this is a yankee, that is to say, i love that we are all seeing changes in processes, life changes that lead, not just to theoretical but to popular democracy there. but as of that office, the laser, at ion of a lot of the popular democracy is not a revolution yet, should democracy is 1st and foremost power of the people, but they said would be lead the if you want to be the leader of your society. so hopefully you have to be the leader of society, not to command will know, but to be a leader and live with them in the same spirit that hold the line. you will see you that has viewed why is it yet campus, therefore a big change. it seems to me that this popular democracy is taking place in the

world in ship and that this will lead to certain security alliance to that ha, i am confident that there will be new security alliances in the future. the it sits in the nose and this does not mean that it's necessary to leave any union right to me. it does not mean that it is necessary to destroy things that work, spoke gloom. no, it does not mean that we have known it was people just want piece, tranquillity, stability. and most importantly, normally confidence. look at what all one of them here in all these challenges. confidence in you should be at the new cove. it or god forbid war to jim when that'll be a person who lives pays taxes or who resides here was born or came here. football is a citizen of the world for peace, enough for women not to show enough. my and this person must know that they must be

protected in this country. lynch, when i'm wooded thumb and if this person leaves for another country, the person will be protected there, but i can build, the person will not suffer a bull pretty much in one then. eat break, the world is facing just such a challenge. it will show it will either accept this model me and come to such alliance's fees, or there'll be a change of many world leaders and their societies will find proper people for themselves that you want to present on one of the but i, i across the so no, i used to so mister president, my, as you can for me, i have a question regarding these alliances or war losing. have you thought about not joining me down? we're considering the ward antea. all external threats that are incoming is more of okay. in the, the, the of it old, long beach and rattling it did not even consider janasia broadening in the constitution. yet we have our intentions with nato diesel switches are there is

ambiguities from nato in relation to our acceptance in the alliance on those ledges . there is clarity from some countries which see us belonging there, e and only with them a deal at a minimum. at least one 3rd of all countries do not see us there. e, ah, believe some of them will not say publicly was up with that they'll accept us, they're ob, inches we most of them are afraid to talk about it publicly and off the keep over the phone with all of its silkwood. tillman. that is why we need to revert to the previous question. then we'll show, but i just the speak, the will. they think that society will pressure them? oh yeah, i was, i should have a resilient than that they can go with one of the t, stella, the chill as the level of liberal bowling. therefore, to you. i think we need to divide this up into several approaches for this mighty challenge. the 4 months in general, we need to find

a format in which we have an understanding of whether russia wants to stop the war and wonderful profit inch. otherwise, we may not get to all the rest that ju enough, in principle. it concerns whether russia wants it or whether russia is even able to do it. mean show of one last or more that this little weird, the more when able to, if we understand that russia is able to do it, he will know, disney or will face problems due to sanction, or internal pressure down one as the in that, that conflicts within its borders, it only was me in the empty shelves that shot receive get doors show or change or to little elite iraqi, which are caused find the war against us. usable, still in. we exact and we understand that all these things we have launched with our western partners together is not to keep a federal. then we will have taken the 1st step towards the union needed in the

world enough to little more sna by being united would you of that? we can stop them any aggressor, a moment in this moment i said look, that is why i believe in my meeting with the president of the russian federation, not in any format for much. i repeat it again. yeah. and i have repeated it and proposed it for several years. so you've got oak narrative guild, man. sure. ah, throttle nozzle in the ceiling. i know only one thing liberal, but she just our future will not forgive us for the loss of our population much. and i'm not sure that our state will not forgive us for the loss of our people nominate from watching nothing. my boy, our future generations will not forgive us for the loss of our territory, this national denali. they will ask us, what were we fighting for from you i's yet? because it's showing us what i want to know exactly where we are. you really skilled it, you know, who are our friends?

i and who doubts us. she again, it wishes that i'm not saying we have enemies in the west mostly will know lima hubbard's each. there are people who are ready for anything on our behalf. yes, got there are those who are not ready with that. did you say you needed uncle? enough? that is all and boeing is are with of fish and therefore him forward and it is important when we talk about certain compromises. ubida she not elude, but then i just thought coloma. i said when i became the president cuvee and was that we cannot give up any part of our land. but i yama, because we must do everything for don, boss and crimea to return a he that the, this is not a platitude. he all are people believe in think so as of the question now is, when can we stop this war? where he bought the corner, there is no need for russia to shout harsh rhetoric. the problem need that we have an ultimatum into yahoo. it will not lead to anything new,

meaning we have an ultimatum to give dawn. here are the points on the show load the you will fulfill them and then we will end the war. the most of only 20 in this wasn't working with them with you martin. this was, this is incorrect. it a lead nowhere. one. the question doesn't concern only me. so this question concerns the fact that the people and government are united enough. we're not all going to be able to do that. you model, you can't do that with ultimatums. ultimatums will not be fulfilled by ukraine. we just cannot comply with it physically. now we've lost people. our people know. how can we do it? nissan. all of us would be destroying, but then there ultimatum will be automatically fulfilled then for example, said give us hockey. yes. for example, give us marty. opal will give us give me stock me little, but neither harkey nor mario paul, nor key residence, nor the president will be able to do this, that you would and we even see it in the occupied cities and melee,

topple their dance, came when they enter people will notify each other, they sleep now they raised the flag and people take it down. sigma, they killed a man, so people hid and came at night and removed the flag with yamato. well, what do you want to destroy every one to live with? of most of them with each, that is why i said we will fulfill an ultimatum only when we do not exist. mm hm. uh, but you can automatically capture the city, but you will live there by yourself in that you will work there by yourself. don't . will you mark the people will either leave the city or those who cannot leave, will fight to the end of this nation. therefore, an ultimatum as a bad thing, that is because it will lead to genocide and the destruction of the ukrainian people get the heroes full thought. we are so energized, now, it will be and crushing. therefore it comes down to dialogue, e navisites. not that we are for peace when i was i repeated again, yet the, even no matter how difficult it is would be,

it is better than war. and even though we hate these troops that are out there with them, or he's the go very. but i will in this little the right word is negotiation domo lot negotiate, however you can. but he did so, but negotiate, do not execute ultimatums on the corner. lucky, this is an important point, them or live am. a compromise can be found in dialog lumala. for me, any compromises are relevant because as you know, this hatred will be for every word, for every demand, for every course. and then um, for every guarantor of security do goes no, we move for every one goes in, all you understand, right? was no time must pass, leaky the cause know of what it was me that, that therefore, if of joya, if they want to end the war, hulu, the actual, they must agree on a cease fire, withdraw true civil war. then presidents meet if sca agree that troops are withdrawn as

a city and that there are certain security guarantors. sure. yet here you can find compromise. ricky morgan, there are certain guarantors of our security issue that on that and also with they must say tomorrow that they are accepting ukraine into nato and not being unclear any more submission of or say that we're not accepting it now of them evenly. that is true, mutual and in the court and they themselves understand that they do not want to go with russia with it. so they do not accept us. see that roosevelt? nothing. but with them we simply identity. what he said. the answer is very simple . this lockwood, if we already understand everything key, were not accepted because they are afraid of russia and not that yet. that's all you would that. and then we need to calm down and say that i knew more mum the say, ok, we need other security guarantees. little boy, 5th, it should, there are nato member stakes that want to be the guarantors of our security,

which unfortunately can't provide us full membership in the alliance, but are ready to do everything that the alliance would have to do. now if we were members of the alliance yoga, whichever i deal with, and i think that's a normal compromise, it's a compromise for every one knew what for the west, which does not know what to do with us in the nato issue for ukraine manner, which wants security guarantees, and for russia, you don't, which does not want to let nato expand further. it go complained says that it has had such agreements with nato countries with the west that i see this in the door. and so when me, a compromise must be found in this because this will be the end of the war, ended in the formula for russia. this is not the end, but there is this public letter like, i don't know by whom it, i don't remember by the minister of foreign affairs or by the president of russia. and that is namo. stop talking to us with phrases like, di, not suffocation, et cetera. but we immediately said that this sounds like an ultimatum,

this point. and we do not tolerate this novel because as soon as we're accused of naziism by people who follow in the footsteps of naziism and there's water with us, then we will not be able to tolerate it. we started, therefore public rhetoric can be anything. it's the business of every state in this world, but this will not be binding rhetoric. joel nibbled, mister president, clarification, where are crimea and don boss in this daily and will cause or they will come later . that of, that's why i'm talking about approaches. watched isolate, i'll finish now. i think this is a very difficult narrative for every one. he should have done both crimea and don bos servers or with the it will be hard to digest or every one. and he was put each and to find a way out. we need to take this 1st step, which is, as i've said, we, the security guarantees the end of the war when it's fitted toward football at the same time, we should also agreed that we are resolving the issue of temporarily occupied

territories. we have to resolve it, but after the end of the war, see why because everything is very hot, as i've said, it be said, very hot lost. and so this blockade will and where's it is? and after this blockade, please, let's talk to you. monday. i will not at the 1st meeting with the president of russia, what senior i am ready to raise these issues. they are relevant for us. the occupied territories are important. don't wish a year, but i'm sure that this decision will not arise in this meeting. one is doing the work with them because there is, how do you say if we're completely frank mot, we will have to talk about constitutional changes with changes in ukrainian legislation when it comes to security guarantees already. but so, and if we talk about it, we'll bottle, it will, in any case, be decided not only by the president of legislative, but as it is quite a long process with additional by both

a parliament and the people of ukraine. great. equally old. and when i say the people of ukraine, but in these negotiations with the russian federation, we will still arrive to these negotiations as we've explained. filled nobody them. yep. we, yes. often what i did not meet with russian negotiators, alyssa, but with our negotiating groups, there you go level, i explained to them. you look, when you talk about certain changes which might be historic, we will not avoid those. but then we will put them to referendums, will hold, the people will have to say and respond to some of the compromise formats you mentioned. but what they'll be as a matter of our conversation and understanding between ukraine and russia. nasa ross, moly euros, a, me, a mutual grey mercy, tommy, when you walk every day, every day about it with your peripheral roof. only

recently. i don't know, i don't, i have, i can tell you with whom i have at we're in many too many connections. not too many . i'm with, ah, i have many, a lot of connections with, ah, whether do them, angie, do them. i have many connections with micron. i have fair connections. many connection with borders. johnson. oh ha. ah, with allah. my thing baltic baltic countries. okay, so what are your prefer the director who i prefer with my wife. yeah, sorry. job curriculum. super said there was scottish church,

i would like to ask what you would say to ukrainians when they see russian troops through their windows in their villages, towns, when you showed no abortion action was recorded. also in your interview to cnn, you mentioned that if negotiations with island fail and then there's a risk of world war 3. what did you mean by that? is a threat is with the voice in the showroom mulling over the upward, him don't, cranes she'll move. no. was. it's as much as sure as to what i meant in the raft is that putin doesn't have plans to end this war. you a little blonde or crate has ukraine, is only a path he is going down he which is to continue on to europe the the says, the rock 1st of all, multi taking baltic states that give a little of the countries that were part of the ussr in the making law and then other countries that had soviet armies yet and were under soviet influence on the

4th floor. well, more still, i have been saying this to our partners, including mister schultz, r a he school that they might end up with russian troops at their borders. sure. which marcia? but then we can certainly see that it would be world war 3 that would push nobody ship our negotiations fail never, but go. then we can confidently say that it's not by accident that he's asking for demands that will be rejected by ukraine with this post of the geek. of course he setting demands which we cannot agree to 1000000 msm all if before saying that they simply didn't want piece before. yes, well, me personally with you, little boy, him and then russia will go full force towards the borders of european or nato countries. cecily feel it would be world war 3 horrible

her gray in them, europa chickering, them escalade and lot to will do that. oh, if you, if you were going to me please talk with him and and tim white and kim. well, what if we do it? let me tell you what would be your your model, number hot, the simple, i think she'll been visit. she miss, i will try to cover everything perplexing the rules and say everything that ukrainian people think the dial in detailed a moline, and if i had the opportunity there by fine a sheer, we would cover every topic. i'm all for the of them. when really some only if she me will we resolved them all. should justine was wonderful which up? no. you believe the but partially edition eat most important of which is to

stop the war in them and let them understand that by destroying us, he will only destroy himself young, which is a weight. obviously with story. i don't want us to be known in history as a nation that doesn't exist when you have for the dental as a president or i don't want this destiny for our country and people i live on me. yeah, sure will do is mission one. the navy jewelry is one, is elisha mr. presented. this is the biggest variety crisis in europe since the 2nd world war. the 1000000 people left their homes inside ukraine . 3 and half 1000000 people are abroad. what would be your message to those people who are abroad and to, to people and countries with them in g, u, t, your net? sure. because did this of where everybody needs to become ukranian? i mean,

at least temporarily seemed almost to feel in their own skin each other that to know that it's a war and that you can lose everything the fair enough if you thought your life rather. and everything that matters to you. efficient to be thorough. richardson to feel that pain, he be not just be concerned that they're both of their stuff about ethical would be the choice there with it. so when you are feeling wonderful, you will do what you can to stop this cause. know them because people that no matter who they are and what they do, you see if they still think about themselves 1st to the about their life, there are so what they can do for their own life is to be ukrainians. yes. 74 at standard. great, deborah, sheffield. thank you so much. i am the usual

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