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make up your own mind. oh d, w. made for mines. ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin. russia claims the 1st stage of its war and ukraine is over and has been a success. it says it will now shift its focus to the eastern dumbass region. we look at whether this signals a strategic shift from moscow in the face of stiff, ukrainian resistance. also coming up what you're seeing at the live pictures from warsaw, where u. s. president joe biden is set to give
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a speech urging the free world to rally to ukraine's course. he'll also have his 1st meeting with ukrainian officials since the war began. and running the race of her life, a ukrainian athlete wins that jerusalem, martha after fleeing her war torn home country. ah, i'm pablo follies. welcome to the program. after a month of fighting that's left thousands dead and sent millions on the run. moscow says it's shifting its focus to ukraine's eastern don bass region while the kremlin claims its successfully completed, the 1st phase of water calls its military operation. analysts say it could be a sign, russian president vladimir putin is trying to save face after failing to sub to ukraine or capture its capital keith. but as moscow changes focus,
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the human tragedy of the invasion shows no sign of abating signs of spring greeted. keep on saturday as ukraine shakes off its winter, an end to the new phase of war, but i was, oh, that may be a changing strategy after britian defeats oh, but there's little rest bite for those on the front lines of battle. many of visibly exhausted. bit steadfast, emit determination to stay. hood for sure. poochie jame. as you can see, he says, and our children and grandchildren, a dying figure, looking hidden. i'm 62. i can't leave this place or one. i'll stay here. if need
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be, i will die here will do so. but i will not give them a crane. who will ukrainian forces have recaptured areas on the outskirts of the capital? keep still lives continue to be destroyed. oh oh you well at this hospital in hoc eve, the wounded continue to arrive as ukrainian forces come under heavy fire was a little more normal in maria pulls their shem of the damage inflicted by bush and bombs, is clear my real quick. so unfortunately, nothing remains of maria pole and the bombing it with savage weapons. i this last week there had been explosions like i've never heard before. my room could give
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a present. they hit residential areas with rock hill. i hundreds continue to flee. maria poll, saying goodbye to the decimated city and to those who must stay behind. well, let's bring indeed you correspondent, ne conley, who's in ukraine's capital cave. hi, nick. good to see you. now, despite the fact that russia has said it will focus on the eastern dumbass region, we understand that war is still raging in the south in the cities over mario, paul, and have son. can you give us more on that? i think there are very few people here in ukraine who would take that announcement at face value. i think this is more about trying to make less demands make it more manageable goal to themselves, the russian public as a success given what, what is arguably fiasco in the rest of the country and rushes, failure to make significant progress in recent weeks are going into this you had
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messages for moscow about being able to take care of in a matter of days rather than weeks. and that obviously hasn't happened. indeed, there is a lot of fighting beyond dumbass, not just round me here and give 25 kilometers down the road. and it be in the fighting continues, although it seems like the cranes be able to push back russian forces quite significantly in someplace nikki, of, in the south, around mich alive. i've had a song is some news coming today that even the ukrainians were able to return to had a song which had been the one major ukrainian city under full russian control so far, so pretty difficult to really judge those cavities, not many journalists, independence on the ground, but a sense that this is a war that is very much going on and this is by no means been event. nick, you have touched on it there, but those rushes new focus on eastern ukraine mean that the capital is off the hook . do you think that that russian troops might fall back or we've seen that ukrainian success east of the river, that supposedly russian troops have been pushed back by quite some way. but on the
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other hand, just 20 kilometers a direct line for i'm starting now in downtown kia, they are still there and we hear the shooting. we hear the artillery is a very big bank this morning. quite close thing that was you crania antiaircraft systems knocking some projects out of the sky. and so this is very much still going on. yes, people are getting used to their kind of new routines. people are coming out in great numbers, but doesn't mean the danger isn't still there. we're having routine reports of residential buildings being her being hit, people being heard, this is still going on and that the shooting and the artillery continues. well, another issue is what ukrainian president followed me to lansky makes of rushes for a shift and focus now. and today he addressed representatives come from countries like tar and saudi arabia the doe have forum at, let's have a listen. this is also a question of abandoning the researcher, russian, oil and gas. you are responsible states like the state of utah are reliable and the solid exporters of energy resources and they can bank day contribution to the
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civilization in europe. they can do march to restore just states in the future of europe, arrest one way of your efforts. it depends on your efforts. i ask you to increase the output of energy to ensure that everyone in russia understands that no can tree, can use energy as the weapon and blackmail me, blackmail to word. well, it appears like an attempt to buy present landscape. the speed of the west's move away from russian gas and oil. nick, is that the case? definitely, and people here will tell you that since the beginning of the war late february, a month ago, europe alone has transferred about 20000000000 euros to russia for coal, for oil and gas. the same time ukraine is received just about 4 to 5000000000, so you can see in terms of the bigger order of scale there, russia are getting a lot of money to pay for this military campaign. and also that is
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a priority here. now in ukraine, they say that the sanctions are russian banks and other russian businesses is all well and good, but it's not enough and forced the criminals to really stop this campaign. the only thing that will help now is embargo new media and to those transfers of huge amounts of hot currency. well, on the other hand, russia has barely budged on its demands on ukraine, including the keys, recognized at the self proclaimed republics in add to nat scandal. hands is that a red line? zalinski is willing to cross nick i think for now it's a definite no, he's talked about maybe being open to some kind of deal over nato membership. that's been an aspiration ukraine for some years now. that could be up on the table . but excepting the independence of those selfish public setting, that is a no go ukraine feeling that it is doing well. and that, that success on the battlefield is being recognized by western partners doesn't feel like it needs to make that kind of painful concession right now. and it's pretty hot c, wide, ukrainian public would agree to that kind of thing would accept that kind of deal after so many deaths and so much suffering across the country. a situation where,
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unlike 2014, this country hasn't collapsed military and is still going in spite of a month to war. he w correspondent, ne conley. thank you and take her while i'm joined now by raphael, lost from the european council on foreign relations. i raphael, it good to have you here on d, w. now the russian military is now saying that as phase one of the invasion is, quote, mostly complete. and it will now focus in war on the dunbar and eastern ukraine. do you buy that or has to shift being and i'm because of the failure to take the ukrainian capital? keith, i think from what we can tell russian non courses are definitely overstretched. their supply lines are buckling and ukrainian pressure, and there's some danger off. russian troops being encircled by cleaning forces to your credit on posts, have been able to mount limited counter fences and some areas. what i
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would caution up is from the statements that we put out of moscow in the last couple of hours and to assess that anything changes and strategic goals. i think what we see as an operational we organization to, to limit exposure, oppression posts and to reprioritize goals as part of this campaign. but again, if they take the don, but there's nothing that would prevent them from returning to russell, how do you assess the change in strategy against the backdrop of domestic support and russia for the invasion? it's difficult to assess one, you must recognize that the criminal has a tight grip on the russian media ecosystem. it has consolidated authoritarian rule the past couple of weeks as well as, as the campaign against ukraine has, has commenced. and that is a long standing trend that has, has facilitated over the past 20 years since he's come to power in 2000. and so i
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found a difficult one. rely on sort of public opinion polls that are coming out of russia there. we need to recognize that often people, i suppose, just one side of the story. but we also have to see that, especially a lot of young people who have experience abroad are leaving russia and the russian economy in the long term isn't a lot of pressure particularly you know, emerging technology, you start upsets on support, are relocating to outside of russia that's a little bit of a president putin that could this be a potential face saving moved by and i think in the short term might be. but as i said earlier, i think it would be wrong to assess that has moderated to schools because of the ukraine. i think his rhetoric to what ukraine as a nation, as a country of the people has been fairly consistent over the past couple of years. he's negated, there is such a thing that the creamy and identity separate from a russian identity. and so i think we need to recognize and prepare for
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a sort of longer term pressure campaign against ukraine and a longer term pressure campaign against the west to supporting ukraine. now, u. s. president joe biden is in poland. is he succeeding and keeping the nato countries united? i think yes, but that is something that is on the shoulders of europe and nato. and i says, well, i'm and canada to i think what we've seen on the past couple of days in various brussels meetings from the g 7 to you council meeting to the nato council meeting is a very unified when there are some differences. i think when it comes, for example, to energy sanctions, a germany is very reluctant, there are some other east and allies them. united states happened putting some pressure on berlin on this issue. but nevertheless, i think overall the picture that emerge from brussels and that is no bomb. b, reemphasized and poland by vitamin and his counterpart and redo dies is one unity.
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and that is somewhat unexpected. because if you recall the american presidential actually 2 years ago, then poland was very much hoping for donald trump to return to the white house. and there was some disappointment when, when joe biden criticize, poland been hungry, and to get what better was for creeping authoritarianism. and, but i think the current crisis has let ready run the flag effect with a natal within the u. s. united west profit loss from the european council on foreign relations. thank you. thank you for letting me what on a 2nd day in poland, us president joe biden is to deliver a speech on the crisis in ukraine. the white have says, the president's will call on the free world to stand against vladimir putin and you are seeing life pictures coming to us from the polish capital war, where president biden is about to hold talk with his polish counterpart. andre, due to the 2,
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are sent to discuss the situation in ukraine with the west military as humanitarian and economic responds to the war on the agenda. well, for more, let's go to our correspondent, bob hazel, who's outside the presidential palace in war. so hi, barbara, good to see you. now, president biden is by to meet the polish president. what can we expect from it? i thought i could present you his arrival life probably because his secret service guys, the min and khaki that you see there in the background. they have drawn up which points to his imminent arrival. but he is famous for being late from time to time. so we're still waiting in the next minutes, he will come what's to be expected. there will be political talks between his host under due to the polish president enter this, his american counterpart, and the to do have to iron out some diplomatic and political differences that have evolved between the 2 countries. over the last years, there is, for instance,
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the strong support this government, this national conservative law as you want to right wing populous government in poland was very closely allied to donald trump, and they avoided congratulating biden after his election victory for a week or more. so there is quite a lot of rubble that they have to push aside in order to come to the important points of the day, which is of course, what is it nato? what is the european union and the international western community going to do to push back against vladimir, putting in his warf aggression in ukraine? this is really the main point of the day here. well, barbara, poland has called for a tougher stance against russia. what exactly are they calling for them? they want much more. they is, it presented is sort of 10 point plan where they say we need much tougher sanctions cut off gas and oil imports immediately cut of all exports from russia,
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which is still to the running, which are still running through a bellows. and if, for instance, a form, a humanitarian convoy under, under nato, an international protection it to evacuate, the civilians in embattled cities in the east, particularly my, your pull in some other areas. so that is something that they are pushing forward again and again. and every time the american says say, and we've seen that at night or 2 days ago, they say it's too dangerous. we don't want to start to the 3rd world war. we don't want to get drawn into immediate, into direct confrontation with russian troops. so they are being more cautious. ed, president biden is all was sort of pushing back against those ideas and saying we can do this and alpha also, we need more and better weapons. that's what the poder side. so we need to deliver more and better weapons to ukraine. they tried this, explored too often, and a delivery of their old megs of white jet add to ukraine instead,
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wanted new jets from the american side. american said no. the time is not, has not come for that. we think it's too dangerous. so there are some real difference about how hard, how tough you can push back against russia. and of course, in the back of this is the old polish trauma. the old trauma of russian invasion of being overrun by a hostile russia, and that's a deep in the genes of this country here. all right, as d w correspondent, babble of his, oh, in warsaw, thank you for that date. all right, well let's take a at sort of more broader look in a bigger picture with me in the studios d, w reporter william blue cross tag. good to see you, william. now, this visit is a delicacy balancing act will say for joe biden is no, it's no secret at the post present. would her brother have a president, donald trump, a more so than the democratic president?
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right. i mean, i wouldn't go that far. i think the polish president, polish government is always happy to have a visit from a u. s. president to get the attention of the united states regardless of who's in power. but of course, it's no secret, as you mention as, as our colleague barbara mentioned and, and the, the guest before that mentioned there is not a lot of love lost here between the 2 sides of their ideologically, they're politically very different by them being on the more the sort of central left side of the spectrum and in poland being a very conservative government, being a go going very hard against l g b t q writes, for example, squeezing their judiciary very hard. and we shouldn't forget that there is an ongoing rule of law dispute right here in the european union, while the european union and nato, and specifically the guy the eyes states is trying to, you know, rally the troops rally the wagons with poland. that at the center there's an, a parallel dispute with poland about it's rule of law about it's a, as by himself pointed out when he was on the campaign trail before he became
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president. this encroaching autocracy or authoritarianism of which poland was one example that he pointed out. so this is the balance of, especially as biden tries to make this case of democracy versus authoritarianism. right? when we're just saying for our viewers at home, we're just seeing images there at live from war. so at we're, we're awaiting the arrival of our president joe biden, who is meeting with his polish counterpart, andre duda. but continuing on from what you've been saying that we've seen an almost unprecedented show of unity between the united states and the european union in recent, at weeks and months. are there any point though, where the sides disagree? sure, we have seen a lot of coming gather. i'm the sanctions, for example, both against russian companies, individuals putting pressure on western companies to get out of russia. so there's been a lot of coming together, and that is been also on defense, the squabbling we've heard of previous years about how much force press, how much force is to put into europe, us, and otherwise, how much comedy contra, how much contributions to get from nato allies specifically from germany,
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that is almost on not a disagreement any more. it seems like every day there statements coming out of nato headquarters saying we're putting more battle groups into the east the natives eastern flank, the baltic states, poland. everybody seems on board of that. of course, the big thing is energy because the european union, and specifically here in germany, so much more reliant on russian energy than denied states for the united states to impose an oil embargo as they did against russia, is much easier. i think it's something like 3 percent of the of america's oil imports are russian. whereas in the european union, it is 40 percent. so you can see how much more difficult is for europe to get off of russian oil as it was for the united states. 20 years ago, after $911.00 to get off of arab oil. that was a big that we're seeing very parallel debates here in discussions about how to do that. we heard just yesterday, robert hobbit the economics and, and climate minister here in germany, making that very point saying oil, coal, yes,
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in the medium term germany can maybe somewhat easily get off of that gas is really the big thing for, for, for, for germany specifically to become independent from russian. don't you, reporter william to croft, thank you. well, western countries have imposed a tough economic sanctions on russia over its war. but so far, the european union has been reluctant to stop in ports of russian fossil fuels, which make up a large share of europe's energy. mixed leaders have been scrambling to find replacements pipelines still bringing rushing gas into the e. u. around 40 percent of europe's gas consumption comes from russia, which is why e u. leaders haven't been able to agree a ban on imports as a way of trying to force moscow to end the war in ukraine. but what they did do the summit in brussels, attended by president biden, is a great deal to buy more gas from the u. s. last year. and i think for vending
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machines, we need to work toward developing infrastructure, which will allow us a greater capacity to move gas where we needed to see them both of often. that means we have taken a conscious decision to better connect national networks, exidine lender get on to an under the plan is to increase imports from america by an additional 15000000000 cubic meters this year with a name to increasing that to $50000000000.00 per year in the coming years currently, e u imports from america stand at 22000000000 cubic meters annually. the use annual dependence on russia is a 150000000000 cubic meters, though. so the increases from the u. s. won't be enough to plug the gap. i know, i know the eliminate russian gas will have cost for europe, but it's not only the right thing to do from a moral standpoint. it's going to put us on a much stronger strategic footage. what isn't clear from the statement is how much
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more expensive the gas coming from the u. s. will be for europe, or how shipping ports, which are already nearly at capacity for importing gas, will be expanded. liquefied natural gas doesn't just flow through pipelines like russian gas does. there's the well in america, you take a bucket of a gas out, liquify, it put it on a ship, send it across the atlantic. it goes into an important terminal which will take that liquid gas turn it back into gaseous gas, and then it goes into the domestic pipeline infrastructure. and this is exactly the same way that the rushing would be. but there are all those steps. following the agreement with the u. s. u lead is continued the summit and hit a major friction point over where the government should not be allowed to intervene in the market to cup energy prices, which is soaring for their citizens. well, here's a look at some other developments in the war. french president, a manual,
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my call has proposed an international mission to evacuate people from audio, paul, the ukrainian city, devastated by russian attacks. my cause said he was working on a humanitarian operation together with turkey and greece, and he would soon call russian president vladimir putin to work out the details. pope francis has laid a ceremony at the vatican to consecrate both russia and ukraine to the immaculate heart of the virgin mary. the prayer ritual is of deep spiritual importance to many catholics. the service was francis's latest efforts for peace in what he's called, a quote to cruel and senseless war po. to this, kimberly. more than a 130 refugees from ukraine have arrived in germany from dover. hundreds of thousands of ukrainians have fled to the small former soviet republic, germany plans to airlift 2 and a half 1000 refugees, i have those moldova, to help him deal with the influence. well, ukrainian runner who fled her country last month has won the jerusalem marathon.
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valentina veronica left ukraine with her 11 year old daughter while her husband, whose also her coach stayed behind. she told the dog that fans back home had urged her to run for piece. just a few weeks ago, valentine of the red skirt was clean for her life. now the ukrainian marathon runner is trying to promote peace around the world, starting with the jerusalem marathon before the race, she told d w about the support she still has back home. and i have a lot of from message from my grand kids, you know, from ukraine osler's from a lot of people from, again for you know, as a research piece and a very nice i stick here about it wasn't usually wet and cold for the start of the jerusalem race, but after the journey she has been on,
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she just felt relieved to be running again. the race was a mixed event, so she cleverly used male runners as pace setters in a bid to be the 1st woman to cross the line. she achieved her goal and celebrated with the israeli and ukrainian flags. she hopes to soon be reunited with her husband, who is also her coach, but has remained in ukraine after the russian invasion. she bowed to do even better in the race next year. or did you go the rather the day, the router by the name of fredric and i am running next year when i have you guys my husband here, craig, a robert, it is a metal that means so much after a terrible mom, her family. she's yet another ukrainian sport start doing incredible things in the face of adversity. well that's all for me for now. of next arts
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