ah, ah ah, listen, dw, the live from berlin, u. s. president joe biden is in warsaw where he's held his 1st meeting with you, praying officials since the war began. he set to give a major speech calling for the west and its allies to stand up against russia's innovation. we're going to be bringing you live coverage here on the w. also on the show strikes on the west of ukraine. officials say 5 people there have been injured in multiple rockets strikes on the city of the v, a close to the polish border. this comes to spite signals from moscow indicating

a shift in focus to the eastern don bass region. ah. hello, i'm claire richardson, a warm welcome to the show. on his 2nd day in poland, you as president joe biden is to deliver a speech on the crisis in ukraine. and the white house, as the president will call on the west and its allies to stand against vladimir putin, ahead of his address biden met with ukrainian refugees outside a warsaw all stadium where the u. s. president called putin a butcher. earlier, bite and held talks with his, with his polish counterpart on j duda the to discuss the situation in ukraine and the west's military, humanitarian and economic response to the war and joined now in the studio by william ugly croft is going to help break this down for us,

william hi, this visit by biden. and his meeting with a duda is going to be an interesting one to watch what comes out of this speech. we know it's no secret at the polish president and the u. s. president haven't always seen eye to eye, that's right by it and has kind of staked his presidency on this idea of democracy versus authoritarianism in poland these days and for the last many years is kind of somewhere in between a democratic country for the very highly conservative government that seemed more aligned with trump's view of the world back when donald trump was president. ah, duda is one of many officials there who took a while to to ring up joe biden and congratulate him on becoming president in in 2020. um, so there is some bad blood you could say there dude was also the one who came up with the whole a fort trump idea was right now, just wanna tell our viewers. we are looking at live images of what appears to be the u. s. motorcade with american flags arriving here at william key. tell us a little bit more and you hinted that in many ways due to was more aligned with the

trump administration. in what sense do you, me not? well, we see things about, you know, um, restrictions on abortion in poland, algebra to chew plus rights. how difficult it is for those people there. um and then restricting a judiciary and poll has been the big sticking point, especially here in the european union. poland is being is a member of the e u. it gets a lot of funds from the e to support infrastructure and these kinds of things the e has been holding back a lot of otherwise earmarked support for poland as, as retribution as punishment is consequence for not sticking to you. rules on rule of law transparency, democratic values. and these are all things that the u. s. president also says he stands for and he's in the past, you know, highlighted poland as one country of several that seems to be backsliding into authoritarianism. but at the same time, standing up to russia right now, pulling always been very, very hard on russia, harder than many other parts of the you like germany. so you see this very much

a tale of 2 countries, a golden child and a black sheep. so to speak, when it comes to all the western alliance. right now, it's been interesting also about russia's invasion of ukraine, is that we have seen such a strong show of unity among western allies on that has even taken some by surprise . how strongly they have come together and has acquired some huge shifts in policy . that's been quite a parent here in germany perhaps most of all. yeah, for sure. i mean the because of bricks it because of donald trump's treatment of his allies critically here in europe. and there has been a lot of disunity with among the traditional western alliance over the last 510 years. let's say, trying to figure out what exactly their position is these at vi russia, visa be china, terrorism, climate change, these kinds of, of major major issues. and there's not been a lot of unity on that on that front. and what's the best way to get unity

then to have a common enemy, a common cause. and we're seeing that if absolutely, as you say right here in germany with this sudden huge about face after years of running from hard power running from military power, ah, now running from the a modernizing investing in their armed forces, leaving that to others. you have a country that's about to put a 100000000000 euros on top of its already existing spending for a one off of topping up of defense expenditures and going forward. it's looking like, you know, larger military budgets from sheer on out could be a challenge. they want to get back into the constitution to make that caused a constitutional protection to make sure those budgets are always there for the military. so there's a long legislative process still left ago, but germany is a country currently led by 3 parties. 2 of them believe themselves to be ant. i wore pro peace disarmament party's ant. i nuclear parties. the 3rd one,

the free democrats, they're the ones who are low tax, low spending. so we're seeing a complete shift in ideology here in germany based on events that have unfold in the last several weeks. when i just my draw our viewers attention back to the live images that we're seeing here, we are waiting for joe biden to make a major speech in warsaw. we expect him to call for the wes and its allies. you stand up against russia's innovation of ukraine. i'm going to bringing wide coverage of that speech once it begins appears the motorcade is just on its way and with me in the studio here is william glen croft with with analysis. william, i want to ask you about, we just spoken about the unity among the you and among nato partners. but what are some of the fundamental differences within the you when it comes to their response to russia? yeah, it's, there is a calibration issue, right? both it within the you itself, there's differing opinions about how hard to go on sanctions. a, how hard to go on energy embargoes. how hard to go and millet,

the kind of military support for ukraine. you have countries like poland and the baltic states who have a long, a bad history with russia and had been warning the rest of the european union for years. watch out for this. this is not just our post communist post communist trauma or a post communist paranoia. they been warning about russia for a long, long time. i'm wanting harder sanctions wanting more military presence, wanting nato to do more. we saw that poland offer of its make 29 jets that the u. s . no pun intended, shot down. and you're seeing on the u. s. i very hard. sanctions increasing sanctions. the oil gas embargo where at which the e u especially is not there yet. we've been hearing about it a lot is it's worth repeating. the european union is incredibly dependent on russia for its energy. something like 40 percent of russia's. uh, excuse me, your opinions gas comes from russia. whereas the united states is something like 3 per cent. the u. s. is also, of course, its own major exporter and producer of natural gas. i'm very much what the

e was going through now with its dependency on russia and the political geo political problems. it's causing the u. s. face 2025 years ago. after $911.00, this dependency on arab oil and how it was fueling extremism and fueling instability in the middle east. we're seeing now how petro euros going to russia is fueling instability here in europe. and the us did by enlarge get off or, or lower its dependence on arab oil and gas. now the question is, can the european union do the same thing with russia, right, so by the end, the u. e. u, finding themselves in totally different situations in that how lutely and russia is right here. of course, the u. s. is much more geographically isolated from the, from that fact, but within the you itself, are there differences of opinion on meeting energy needs? oh, of course. again, poll in the baltic states they're, they seem ready to have an energy embargo, even though that would mean massive, massive economic fall out here in the european union job losses. we heard this from olaf schultz this week i,

he basically said the pain that sanctions and embargoes would inflict on russia cannot be less than the pain that would be inflicted on european union citizens on german citizens. and that is what they're trying to calibrate germany. we heard also this from a robert hobbin, that's the economics and climate minister here in germany. really the guy responsible for figuring out how to get germany off of a rush in dependency on gas and oil. going to cut tar. going to other countries with an oil producing states trying to figure out how to offset this. had a big statement yesterday morning, talking about how germany can gradually get off for sure oil and coal from russia much harder to get off the gas because of how many pipelines come from russia through ukraine and through the baltic to provide germany a highly industrialized. ah, highly energy intensive economy and one of the biggest in the world with its energy . and this is really the challenge going forward. there is, and there's

a lot of debate about how much germans, both politically speaking, in terms of public support among voters, are really willing to feel any pain for the punishment that they're going to inflict on russia. so this is clearly the backdrop against which this speech is taking place. we are looking at live pictures waiting for a bite in it to arrive. we just saw there an american flag, a polish flag. the stage is sat waiting for him to deliver for biden, to deliver a speech in warsaw on the war in ukraine. ah, no william earlier to day bite in called putin a butcher in earlier, he's called him terms like more criminal on multiple times. i. but what you make of this new rhetoric a fits with this with this with, with the overall message that he's been that he's been sticking to for the last couple of weeks. ah, a no uncertain terms. he sees a 5 ruin as a war criminal even said yesterday, while meeting with humanitarian aid or organizations in poland. looking at the refugee situation, he said he thinks that it would not. it's not just his opinion,

but he thinks it would meet the legal standard of what it means to be a war criminal to be tried and some kind of a war criminal court. the international criminal court, for example, um biden is talking tough. we're hearing slightly more muted a william, i just want to jump in a letter viewers know that you're looking there at on j. you have jesse on j duda and ukrainian forum, mr. qu labor there awaiting biden's speech. but please carry on because you're so we're seeing, we're see again a calibration issue, not only when it comes to sanctions and those kinds of physical actions and penalties, but also a calibration in rhetoric. not all european leaders are ready to be as strongly worded as joe by to, but also joe biden has a history of kind of not beating around the bush when it comes to what his thoughts are on certain people as certain policy. so it really does fit with kind of the bite in personality i and one of the other things as for shadowing, this speech is bitin, has also today cast and doubt on russia's claims that it is planning to focus only

on controlling the eastern don bass region what more can you tell us about that? this is also calibration, right? there's a lot of, of intelligence encounter intelligence and, and kind of are predicting moves and yield a lot of 4 dimensional chests going on here between the u. s. and russian sides. as we saw in the beginning of the war where the u. s. was announcing definitive knowledge of, of vision plans. and how much of it was true, how much of it was an we may never, we may never know. i think bided makes a good point. first of all, we should note that the eastern part of ukraine has been devastated, devastated by the russian war machine. so to say that they're now going to focus on it is a, is a bit of a is, is, yeah it's, it's very difficult to hear that because it's already been under so much to wrestle so much bombardment, the east, more than the west. and so, and the russia also has

a way, putin has a way of defining what victory means, right? i mean, he's clearly a, he probably knows that he's in a bind that he may be got an over his head or wasn't, didn't quite plan this as well as he thought. that's what all the kind of military analysts are saying right now that he was thinking was we a much easier way to, to keven, to accomplishing his goals of essentially toppling as a lensky government. and now he may be looking for a rhetorical way to kind of define victory, consolidate his games, where that actually leave the, of course, is going to be a matter of negotiations in a matter of, of the next kind of statements to come out of rush out of ukraine and out of the west. in the next few days to william, we are still waiting for biden to begin his speech in warsaw about the war in ukraine. i'm earlier, he said, we understand that he is going to call for what he has called the free world to stand up in st. russia's invasion. i mean, he's referring there to western democratic countries. i is very explicitly cold war

language at what you make. we make of that. i mean, joe biden is a cold war president basic. i mean this, this, this man has known the cold war. he's a foreign policy. he's known for his foreign policy credentials and his foreign policy credentials were forged in the for decades. of the cold war, this is, this is, this is what he knows. i'm just looking at these pictures here. a has this very kind of j, f, k, in berlin. look to it, right. warsaw like berlin was also mostly destroyed by the nazi invasion. i am just laid in ruins and everything we're seeing here that looks very old as rebuild after the war, mostly rebuild after the war. so there's a lot of similarities here in a kind of address of the free world rhetoric, the liberal order, the democratic order. we've already heard from biden, before this russian invasion about demo democracies needing to buying together to confront authoritarianism, authoritarianism. in that case, before the war, he was focused more on china. now we're looking back towards russia and china. so

this is in a way, not new. it's in a, in a way it's, it's kind of the next step in this evolution of what biden is trying to do. we're trying to give western democracies some new strategy, some new way forward that they've really been suffering from in the last 3040 years . you know, since the end of the cold war, what does america stand for? what does the west and for without an enemy out there to confront? what is its purpose? and i think that's what bite is and trying to do, even when he came into office long before any, this kind of aggression. he was promising a kind of a club of democracies, a, a conference of democracies to confront. not just a military, aggression and military problem, but also things like climate change is very grand seen that you reference is the warsaw, royal castile. you see the red carpet has been laid out, the flags are flying. i'm you mentioned, i wanna ask you about what is war in ukraine means for you as plans with regard to china, which you just touched on briefly. i mean for multiple u. s. administrations,

there's been talk of pivoting to asia. they seem to be unable to truly focus all of their efforts in that direction. how do you see this affecting echo? you know, there's been a lot of speculation and, and questioning about what is china is position here because china officially is a likes to appear neutral. that likes to talk about preserving world order preserving piece, preserving territory territorial integrity of all countries, as then donald z. and i think we might be joe biden of just heard an announcement for joe biden. think i'll be quiet. i'm going to keep an eye then of the united states. let's cross light to these pictures. we are having an announcement. the joe biden is just arriving ready to speak on the situation in ukraine from warsaw, poland. listen, i can play with amazon.

thank you very much. it's a great honor to be here. mister president. they tell me you're over there somewhere. there you are. bankers president. be not afraid. those are the 1st words. at the 1st president, they tell me you over there somewhere. there you are. i can just present be not afraid. there is the 1st words that the 1st public address of the 1st polish pro, after election. on october 1978. there are the words who had come here to find pope john paul. the 2nd words that would change the world. john paul brought the message here to warsaw in his 1st trip back home. as pope in june of 1979 was

a message about the power power of faith. the power resilience power of the people in the face, the cruel and brutal system of government. it was a message that helped and the sober repression in the central land and eastern europe 30 years ago. there was a message that will overcome the cruelty and brutality. this on just war. when pope john paul brought that message in 1979, the soviet union rolled with an iron fist behind an iron curtain. then a year later, the solidarity movement to cold and poll. well, i know he couldn't be here and i were all grateful in american around the world for

luck will answer reminds me that phrase la server. kierkegaard, faith sees best in the dark. there were dark moments. 10 years later, the soviet union collapsed in poland and central and eastern europe would soon be free. nothing about that battle for freedom was simpler, easy, was a long, painful slog, fought over not days and months, but years and decades. we emerge, you know, in the great battle for freedom battle between democracy and autocracy. between liberty and repression, between a rules based order and one governed by brute force. in this battle,

we need to be clear, i this battle will not be one in days or months either. we need to still ourselves long fight ahead. mister president, mister prime minister, mister mayor, members of the parliament, distinguished guests. the people of poland. and i suspect some people of ukraine uter here, where we are gathered here, the world castle in the city to hold a sacred place in thursday of not only of europe, but human kinds on down in search for freedom for generation for. so i stood where liberty has been challenged and liberty is prevailed. in fact,

it was here in warsaw. whenever young refugee who fled her home country from czechoslovakia was under soviet domination came back to speak and stand in solidarity with distance. her name was madeline coble, albright. she became almost aren't supported democracy in the world. she was a friend with whom i served. america's 1st woman secretary of state. she passed away 3 days ago. she fought her whole life for central democratic principles. and now, in the perennial struggle for democracy and freedom ukraine and his people are in the front lines. fighting to save their nation and their brave resistance as part of a larger fight for an essential democratic principles, but unite all free people. the rule of law for free elections,

the freedom to speak to right and to assemble the freedom to worship as one chooses . freedom of the press. these pres, vars essential in a free society. what they have always. they boy, who sees they've always been in battle. every generation has had to defeat democracy, moral foes. that's the way the world for the world is imperfect, as we know. for the appetites, ambitions of a few, forever seek to dominate the lives of liberty, of many. my message to the people who crane is a message i delivered a day to ukraine's foreign minister and defense minister. why believers and i we stand with you ah.

lays burning key match won't car key on the latest battle. long struggle. hungry. 1956. poland. 956, and then again, 1981 czechoslovakian, 900. 68. soviet tanks, crushed democratic uprising. but the resistance continued until finally in 1989, the berlin wall and all the walls of soviet domination. they fell. they fell and the people prevail but the battle for democracy could not conclude and did not conclude with the end of the cold war. on the last 30 years, the forces of autocracy have revived all across the globe. its hallmarks are familiar ones, contempt for the rule of law, content for democratic freedom, contempt for the truth itself. today, russia has strangled democracy,

has sought to do so elsewhere, not only in his homeland, under false claims of ethics, solidarity is invalidated. neighboring nations prudent has the gall to say he did not to find ukraine. it's a lie. is just cynical, he knows that and it's also obscene presence. zelinski was democratically elected. he's jewish, his father's family was white powder, nazi holocaust. and pom has the audacity like all our autocrat before him to believe that might, will make right. my own country present. abraham lincoln voiced the opposing spirit to save our union. and mister the civil war. he said, let us have faith that right makes might right. makes might,

today let a said that faith again, let us resolve to put the strength of democracies into action to thwart the denies of the designs of autocracy. let us remember that the test of this moment is the test of all time. a criminal wants to portray nato enlargement as an imperial project aimed at to stabilize russia. nothing is further from the truth. nato is a defensive alliance. it is never sought the demise of russia. the lead up to the current crisis. united states and nato worked for months to engage russia to avert war. i met with that person, talk to many tribes and the phone time. and again, we offer real diplomacy and concrete proposal to strengthen european security and

has transparency, build confidence, all sides, put in a rush, amend each of the proposals with this interested in any negotiation with lies in omega. russia was bent on violence in the start. i know not all of you believe in us when we kept saying they are going to cross the border. they are going to attack repeatedly, he asserted, we had no interest in more guaranteed. he would not move repeatedly saying he would not invade you. crane repeatedly. saying russian troops along the border were there for training, all 180000 of them, for simply no justification or provocation for russia's choice of war. to an example. one of the oldest human impulses using brute force and dis information to satisfy a craving for absolute power and control is not the less of

a direct challenge. rule based international order establish since the end of world war 2. and threatens to return to decades of war that ravaged europe before the international rule based order was put in place. we can not go back to that. we cannot, the gravity of the threat is why the response of the west has been so swift and so powerful and so unified, unprecedented and overwhelming. swift and punishing cost are the only thing you're going to get russia to change is course. within days of his invasion, the western move jointly with sanction to damage rushes economy. russia said your bank is now block from global financial system to 9 gremlins access to the war fund

. it's fast around the globe. we've aimed at the heart of russian economy by stopping the importance of russian energy to the united states. to date, united states is sanctioned $140.00 russian oligarchy, and the family members scenery will be gotten gains or yards for luxury apartments for management. we've sanctioned more than 400 russian government officials, including key architects of this war. these officials, an oligarchy. every enormous benefit from the corruption connected to the kremlin. and now they have to share the pain. the private sector is acting as well. over $400.00 private multinational companies and pulled out of doing business in russia . left russia completely from oil companies and mcdonalds. as a result of these unprecedented sanctions ruble almost immediately reduced to rubble. a russian economy. that's true, by the way,

it takes about $200.00 rubles eagle. $1.00 economy is on track to be cut in half in the coming years. it was rank russian guy was ranked. the 11th biggest economy in the world before this of asian invasion. it will soon not even rank among a top 20 in the world. taken together these economic sanctions, a new kind of economic state to state crap for the power to inflict damage that rivals military might. these international sanctions of sap in russian strength. it's ability to replace this military instability. it's ability to project power. and his tongue is latimer potent who's to blame period. at the same time, alongside these economic sanctions. the western world has come together to provide

for the people who ukraine, but incredible levels of military economic humanitarian assistance. and years before the invasion we, america had sent over $650000000.00 before they crossed the border and weapons ukraine included. and i, aaron and i arm equipment since the invasion americas commit. another $1350000000.00 and weapons and ammunition. and thanks to the courage and bravery ukrainian people, the equipment we sent and our colleagues have said, have been used to devastating effects to defend ukrainian. landon aerospace, our allies and partners have stepped up as well. but as i made clear, america forces are in europe not in europe to engage in conflict with russian forces. american forces are here to defend nato allies. yesterday, i met with the troops that are serving alongside or.