ah, ah ah, this is dw, the wire from berlin, u. s. president jo biden's, message of unity in warsaw. for god's sake, this man did not remain to the white house clarified bite in his nar, calling for regime change in russia. after the u. s. president lays the blame for the war in ukraine, squarely at the feet of vladimir putin by he says, be russian. people are not the enemy. also coming up on the shout strikes on the west of ukraine officials, they're say 5 people have been injured by multiple rocket strikes on

a fuel depot in a city of living. this company, despite signals from moscow, indicating a shift in focus, eastern don bass region, and with the millions displaced due to the war in ukraine. many people are arriving in foreign countries, deeply traumatized. well, had to pull in to take a look at what's being done to help those most in need. ah, hello, i'm claire richards and thanks so much for joining us. on his 2nd day in poland, u. s. president joe biden has delivered a speech on the crisis in ukraine. in the speech biden's stress, the united states continued support for ukraine. he said the world must prepare for what would be quote, a long fight. ahead and referring to russian president vladimir putin bite and suggested that he could not remain in power. the white house later stressed however,

that president biden was not pushing for regime change. the one gover were simply no justification or provocation. russia's choice of war. so an example, one of the oldest human impulses using brute force and disinformation to satisfy a craving for absolute power and control is nothing less than a direct challenge. rule based international order. establishing standard war 2, we've sanctioned more than 400 russian government officials, including key architecture, this war, these officials and all the guards, every enormous benefit from the corruption connected to the kremlin. and now they have to share the pain. this new battle for freedom is already made a few things, crystal clear 1st. europe much and is dependent on russian fossil fuels. and we

did, i, states will help them join now in the studio and by a reporter, william blue cross. william, you've been with me here watching the entirety of in warsaw, one in which he is clearly framed as a battle between democracies and autocracies. i just want to start by asking you what the major impressions of the speech where for you, for me, the major impression was the very last line of the speech where he said, for god's sake, this man cannot remain in power that marks of to i can only see as a significant shift in policy to advocate for the removal vladimir putin. how that happens is completely brought in and was not obviously specified. but it is not common for a sitting heads of state to advocate for the removal of power, even of, of, of horrendous people. it's kind of a thing you don't do. even i remember in 2003, when the u. s. was in the verge of invading iraq. there was a all kind of controversy when there were some suggestions. speculation that ari fleischer, the boot, george w bush as press secretary, the time said, well,

one bullet can, can remove, you know, can solve this problem loosely paraphrasing. and he was massively pushed back for suggesting to assassinate saddam hussein. so this is just not something that, that us presidents tend to do to advocate for the removal of, of power, of leaders of power. we don't know what else he really meant by that. so i don't want to harp on it too long, but it is a very notable escalation that i think i can't imagine putin not responding to in kind. it will just at the see how that plays. it plays out there were so much else a here in that speech. really, joe biden, trying to ease people's worries with a lot of references from pope john paul. the 2nd a polish pope, a. i'm in a deeply catholic country, a be not afraid, and really trying a rallying cry to democracies as you know, since the end of the cold war, not really knowing what these, what democracy stand for, what they're doing in the world. this idea of a friend from francis fukuyama that the thought history is over. there's nothing more left to do throughout the speech of unity that we've just heard that. i mean,

he also said, we stand with you. what do you think ukrainians in the audience listening to the speech are going to make out of that? i mean, the west and joe biden went through a long list of things at the u. s. and the european union have done to support ukraine militarily. shoot in a terms of humanitarian aid in terms of financial relief, economic, a sort of aspects. but if we've been hearing for weeks now, zalinski and many of his officials talking about how it's just not enough. they want so much more direct, a intervention both militarily and in terms of, of aid of all kinds. i think so lensky even used to, we're disappointed at one, at one point, thankful for what has been done, but saying it's not enough. so it's certainly a for ukrainians, a major help, but obviously with russia bombing them every day it's, it's never going to be enough. and one of the major request from ukraine and president, lindsey has of course, been for a no fly zone over ukraine. something that washington and berlin have been have

reject it. and can you tell us what's behind? i'm broad and broadly, the european union nato. there have been a few individual countries such as lithuania, i believe, i think pull it also come out in favor of, of so called close in the air space is a very difficult thing to do. it require ukraine's a huge country. first of all require a massive amount of air power. that would even strain u. s. resources. it would require going after russian assets both in ukraine and in russia itself. and the u. s. only has experienced in enforcing no fly zones where it doesn't really face opposition, such as any rock such as over the former former yugoslavia to where there is no real air force to speak of russia for all of its missteps in all of its military weaknesses. surprise, weaknesses still is a massive military power and it would put the 2 sides into direct confrontation. it's not an easy solution, like some people might suggest it is a reporter william glucosamine. thank you so much for coming into the studio. with that analysis of the western ukrainian city of levine has been struck by russian

rockets just a day after moscow signalled a shift in focus to the eastern john bass region and elsewhere. russian troops agreed to leave a town where staff working at the chernobyl nuclear site, left after a mass protest by residence, an attack on a city that has become a refuge from many fleeing rushes, invasion authorities say, the missiles struck non residential targets in the lives outskirts including this oil storage facility that was set to blaze residence, scrambled for safety, reminded once more that even here, just 70 kilometers from the polish border. there is a risk of russian attacks this despite moscow's claims, that it is now focusing its operations on the eastern don best region after a month of fierce ukrainian resistance. that resistance was on display again on saturday in the town of sla voltage homes, the workers at the nearby chernobyl nicholas sight. anon protested, rallied against the russian occupying forces refusing to disperse. even when troops

were portly fired into the air, the residence peaceful demonstration managed to secure the release of the towns mer, as well as an agreement by russian soldiers to leave the town. if arms were handed over, a small victory for the townspeople and a clay indication that for russia occupation will be a struggle. i want to get straight across a today how these correspond and funny for charge has been reporting for us from levine. funny tell us where you are and what's been happening. i'm in the city central sleep, the biggest city all fast in ukraine. and i remember during the day the hood explosions, a painting that fuel that we have seen in the pictures in the video stems from a facility that was storing fuel. why? according to the liver, may another rockets hit a few hours later, which apparently hit infrastructure, but not residential buildings. as we hear. however, that 3rd explosion we did not hear. we were already sheltering also ourselves in a bunker where we are actually headed in next as well. because fresh air right sar

is just started. so as a result, everyone who's out on the street at this point and a curfew is about to start in an hour as well. need to go down to hunker down. it is going to be a quiet, restless night here for the citizens off live. and tell us if you can, a little bit more about what it is like in at that bunker you've been in and out as we've been reporting throughout the evening, are people taking these air siren seriously to go down there? defense vote really where you are, the have been traveling across many pos if you crying here live if really a relatively safe, a city people than the hey, are here, the era siren. so who them before they some of them are more or less. yeah. getting to the next coffee shop and getting their next lotta mach jato, while others, especially elderly people, were looking for shelter. also a church just right in front of me here. they're still lighting there. some people are looking for shelter in a church. very different reactions, but today really there is a change because so far, even though there was a facility near the airport here on march 18th, which is about 7 kilometers for,

from here. but never so far, at least into the wall. so close to the city center, several rockets hit live. so a people themselves are bracing a 4 possibly more. and i wondering if this is some high anyhow, connected to the fact that you as president abide and is important that you spied away just about 60 kilometers from here, from the of if indeed it of it has been a haven for many people fleeing other parts of ukraine to go to the relative safety of the west. what do you think these attacks do mean for a potential escalation of the conflicts? that's a really good question because if you listened into what russian authority says had to say about the silk a 2nd face of the will that they actually just want to focus on the dumb bus region and not on any major cities anymore. not knowing, but of course this is just propaganda. what that supposed to mean. people really thought that in the video they are safe hundreds of thousands of people,

australia here because they didn't want to leave ukraine yet. they thought that this is a safe place to stay before they can actually go back to the home cities, hoping that the war is going to be over maybe a few weeks in a few months from now, but also millions of others have left ukraine already. what one quarter of the cranium population is this place? so yeah, that, that's a feeling or the state is full maybe that some people felt libby, if has as a safe place is definitely changing because the war, the strategy of the will and those who fight it is changing as well. and if a char for us in the vive, in ukraine, a thank you so much for your reporting, please stay safe. no one speak now to phillips o'brien, professor of strategic studies at the university of st. andrews in scotland currently joining me from boston in the united states, a very warm welcome to the show. first, i want to ask you about biden's remarks in warsaw, poland. and he said on a saturday that russian president, vladimir putin, quote,

cannot remain in power of the white house already walking that back. do you expect there to be consequences from this? i think if they walk it back quickly, i'm not quite sure what consequences can do about it. i mean, he's got his military almost fully deployed in ukraine or we're close to it. so he can't go to war. would you go to war when they lose an ard, be? so in some ways prudent has no way to retaliate against it, that that wouldn't backfire on it. the white house, as you say, is already walking it back. so my guess is this will not be a major issue relatively soon. ok, so that would, that cleared up? i want to ask you about the military situation. a high ranking russian military officials that on friday, the russia has completed the 1st stage of its operation. and could now focus on what it calls its main goal, the liberation of don boss at the same time. we also heard from our correspondent today that there are explosions near levine in the west of the country. what is to be made of all this?

well, those are not by the way that naturally exclusive events. the tax on the v would be going on if they have a limited warranty, is simply to try and slow down the movement of goods and supplies and reinforcements from western ukraine, eastern ukraine. look, the move to an eastern ukraine strategy is in some ways rational because the russian military has been over extended, suffered serious losses and hasn't been able to take any of its major objectives at this point. and it probably couldn't with the army, it has now it's hard to see how they would ever take here with the force they have . so they can innocent style it down to say ok, we never really meant to do this with that. that what we want to do is take eastern ukraine and they militarily could do they could take more eastern ukraine. the problem with that strategy is that how did then do in the war? it must ukraine will accept that. then you end up, which i don't think they would at this point. then you end up in a permanent war with the crypt link, sanction sitting russia. so it's a militarily,

perhaps clever idea, but it's not quite clear how this ends the war. now i just want to clarify on your view a focus on eastern ukraine, making the priority in their strategy. does not then preclude a tax on western ukraine. no, not at all. i mean, one of the success stories for ukraine during this war so far is that they've kept supplies flowing from west east. they have very much better logistical operations than the russians. so if the russians are in a war in the east, they're still going to want to try and keep the ukrainians from re supplying and reinforcing there. there are ways because the fighting would be going on. so it wouldn't be an attack to take over the. it's simply attack to destroy the infrastructure of the to make a good supply. and that would be a guess why we don't know at this point. i just don't want, it shouldn't be read that because they are talking with the they're not doing the eastern strategy. that's, that's not actually is a set exclusive event in the potential for

a long drawn out conflict in the do you see this as russia preparing for a war of attrition? and if so, does the russian military have the resources to carry that out? i think basically, right now there's crisis in the russian military and the russian government, i'm not sure anyone is thinking long term right now. they're simply trying to salvage what has been a strategic catastrophe for the russian army. and i don't think we can show that the russian army was unprepared for the war that it thought the ukrainians were prepared. and the russians have been suffering throughout and around the line in ukraine. so i'm not quite sure they're actually thinking in any kind of long term structural way. they're trying now to simply say face, and that would be an east eastern new trade move would be to save face. but it's then how you, when the war. now it is difficult to get reliable numbers, but some sources are particularly in ukraine, have suggested that russians are suffering massive casualties on estimates between

7 and 15000 troops killed in action. give a sense of how reliable those figures are. well, i think the 7000 was one given out by the united states department of defense about a week ago, or even a little bit longer. so we and that it was probably a relatively accurate figure at the time. so i mean, 15000 might be on the high end, but i think it's from 7 to 10000. seems very possible within the range of activity we had. and then you'd have a number of more times wounded. i mean, you can do some quite horrible metrics by just looking at the number of russian vehicles destroy. not the ones abandoned, the ones destroyed. and they're, they're well over, i think a 1000 at this point that have been destroyed and each one of them would have had say 234, sometimes more people in them depending on what kind of vehicle they were. so whatever the number is, it's much, much higher than i think,

almost anyone like going into this war and certainly much higher than the russians ever thought they would suffer. ok on that note, we're going to leave the interview there. i want to thank phillips o'brien, professor of strategic studies at the university of st. andrews in scotland very much for joining us on the w. yes. thank you. and we can turn our attention now to some of the other developments in the war and ukraine. thousands have march to triple or square in central london, in support of the people of ukraine as they resisted the russian invasion. the march was organized by one didn't mer cindy khan, who slammed the amount of red tape refugee had to go through to get to the u. k. french president and manuel mccoy has proposed an international mission to evacuate people from our you. paul, ukrainian city, devastated by russian attacks across that he was working on a humanitarian operation together with turkey and greece, and that he would soon call russian president vladimir, push and to work out the details. and many of those who flee ukraine often arrived

traumatized into neighboring countries. the war itself, the sudden need to leave everything behind and the journey out, as well as the uncertainty of what might come next. can all be overwhelming. with ease of use, monica shariska sent us this report from the train station in shay michelle on the polish order with ukraine there she met a will, but not a polish psychotherapist, who has worked in germany for decades as just one of several german and polish mental health professionals who are offering new arrivals, psychological 1st aid. when a soon found a here to go, you will fall within will not i can baby life owner good pick up a 25 year old woman arrived without luggage carrying just her baby. she has 3 children, the youngest is just 10 months old. she couldn't bring anything as she travelled 3 days without sleeping without eating. when she got here, she was so exhausted. she was barely able to sleep at the bathroom when we

approached her and asked her where she had come from. whether she knew where to go . all she could say was her house had been hit and her husband was probably dead monday at one's and on in one family homeless. he mentioned to her income demolish in any got on the people who come here often worry less about themselves and what's going to happen to them than about those who stayed behind ukraine. fabulous in stephanie can, doesn't art human irish be? we have certain stabilization techniques, a kind of exercise, actually a game between mother and child, not. the mother moves the child a little in principle like a tapping technique. and she gives them verbal suggestions. you are safe, i am here with you. it's over. nothing will happen to you. these techniques, debbie lace and com, the nervous system of the child as aunt of the mother, woman, woman. this is everybody's in, we give them these exercises. so they constabulary themselves and we are to them to

look after themselves. many are traveling into the unknown, but we say look after yourself, look after your child stabilize yourself. and if you find yourself struggling, find head property i live ne, dimensionally dank. we have seen many thinks intimacy. gratitute how fust conduct can be made, how people can help each other, but also a lot of sadness when they see a child who has been on the road for 3 days, or where a little shoe is missing because there is nothing there. i'm a mother myself and it does affect as deeply this situation as sad as it is, is also shown us how much humanity there is in this word. meanwhile, more than half a 1000000 people have fled to moldova neighbor romania. the country is a member of both european union and nato, and is the 2nd most frequent destination for ukrainian refugees after poland. many arrived with harrowing tales of their escapes from the war. it's just

a short ride to safety. but for many, here it comes after a long and perilous journey. this family reunited at the docks. some came by ferry, others over land, leaving behind a home caught in some of the fiercest fighting so far. we could either log on meek, alive the situation is very bad. randazzo sir. it is being shelled from every direction or more of the people who are able to flee are fleeing. it is hard, boy. i want to go home or i want to go home very much. you cranes short border with romania runs along the danube river fairies land at the town of his sacha, with only a few 1000 inhabitants. it is become yet another transit point as refugees flow out of ukraine. many of the new arrivals are fleeing southern ukraine, where the russians have been attacking cities like mc alive,

near the black sea coast. and moving towards the major port, city of odessa lake and wayne through the us. i could have never believed in such things before way through the honestly, this is a shock. my, you know, we could have never believed that the sky would have been so dangerous that we'd be afraid of airplanes and other things for me. i didn't expect any of this yet. bear with me up and you are, every day there's death. there's destruction. if you're them, so to be, there is very scary, especially with small children. that's why we left it broke. when you more, we 1st went to odessa and he stayed there for one night. but there are air raid sirens every day. destruction shots fired the whole package with the red cross has set up, tends to welcome the ukrainians. but these tense and this town are just another transit

point for those arriving. their journey is far from over. letting it fitting before on ukraine is of course, on everybody's mind, including many russian artists, and many musicians who have spent half their lives in germany, but were born and grew up in russia are celebrated as great artists. here the war on ukraine is affecting them emotionally. but also increasingly in their professional lives as international boycotts of russian products, including cultural ones, continued to increase ah, diarrhea. mar she, nina. he's a pianist from moscow. she's lived in germany for 15 years and is playing at a benefit concert here in hamburg with ukrainian sophia organization. both her deeply concerned about the war is hopeful. you hadn't talked this us every day. i hope that it will end as soon as possible is revenge that does the political wish that the politicians could understand each other as well as of musicians. do i,

when we actually have a good common purpose i for which we unite the cobbled, all the shoe i need in the native russian also expresses her solidarity on social media. some russian friends have criticized her for doing so. one friend from moscow wrote that she did not want to read anything about the war any more as spoken of. okay. i really sorry that people think like that. because every thing that happens around you thought politics actually take at the end of the day. whether you can shop it on key or not. so that's politics associate with you. more and more russians are also experiencing russian culture being canceled. russian participants were dropped from a piano competition in iran, for instance, the south your none did show on the list is from the sanctions, are definitely appropriate to me, but they shouldn't be directed at people if you have nothing to do with a spanish federal hobble ation the advantage, very sad, if as a musician,

i were not allowed to play chikavsky, just because he's a russian composer is, ah, many russian artists do not want to give an interview on cameron germany for fear of the response in their home country. a piano jewel has told us of a tax on russian artists, even over list, and that a go dig from moscow is afraid, but he wants to share his opinion. putin is not all russians, and russia is not just mr. footer's cli, this is putin's war. it is, these are his interests and everyone else just has to suffer. i didn't my name, it's 9 parents suffer. each said, oh, i'll also suffer myself and especially my friends in ukraine in the today's tougher and in the grange. godek is a guest player at the munich philharmonic. his performances are mainly in germany. still he's very frightened. 2 2 2 2 2 2 too, for me, so for me it's also

a personal tragedy because my parents live in moscow. and so to my friends and other family members, if i don't know when i'll see them again to the russian artists hope they can contribute to peace in ukraine with their music. because music is above all, something that connects people who are watching t w news. before we go, let's get a recap of our top headlines. on his 2nd day in poland, u. s. president joe biden has delivered a speech on the war against ukraine. he denounced president putin aggression against your brain and that quote, to put in it cannot remain empowered to white house, however, was quick to clarify, bitin was not calling for regime change. and there are reports of injuries after multiple airstrikes on the western ukrainian city of the several powerful explosions were heard there in the black smoke was seen rising above the city. local officials have called on people to remain calm and to stay in their

update at this hour. i'll be back with more headlines at the top of the hour or more before then you can check out our website at dw dot com or find us on the social media under the handle of the news. i'm quite richardson in berlin. thank you so much for joining with ah, with

ah, with one month since the war and ukraine began, creatives and artists are caught in the middle between escape and resistance. truth and propaganda. crying out, in silence. arch 21. next on d, w. enter the conflict zone with tim sebastian,

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