[000:00:00;00] ah, michael ok, welcome to the program. german chancellor, olaf schultz, has been holding talks with his swedish counterpart, magdalena anderson in berlin. security has been top of the agenda with both countries, considering how to respond to the threat posed by russia in the wake of its invasion of ukraine. the german government has confirmed its looking into acquiring

a missile defense system, like the iron dome shield used by israel in sweden, the ward, ukraine has increased public support for joining nato. but anderson has so far, ruled that out saying it would quote, destabilize their security of north and you are, the 2 leaders should be giving a press conference us some time, very soon. as soon as that happens, we will break away from our programming here on the sat and go to listen to what the leaders have to say. in the meantime, our correspondent julia sow delhi is standing by outside julie, are you with me? hello, julia. julia south della, can you hear me? ok. well, move on from that and i assure viewers, we will go back to this coverage as soon as we hear more, some breaking news to bring you in the meantime, russia's justice ministry has added this broadcast, her daughter vela to

a list of media organizations. it labels as foreign agents. that designation means we are required to label anything. we publish with a disclaimer. the term carries negative soviet era connotations and russia suggestion of spying. it's not the 1st action taken against d. w. in early february, russia ordered the closure of our moscow bureau, and our website was blocked by russia's state communications, regular regulator. earlier this month, we're going to go back to our corresponded, standing outside that press conference. that is about to happen sometime soon. julia. so deli, judy, julia, can you hear me? yes, i can. okay. julia would have the 2 leaders been discussing what has been on the agenda today. obviously the war in ukraine is going to be at the top of the agenda. it is such

a big target and it has been at the center of discussions between leaders here in europe for a long time. now, obviously we expect them to have discussed also other topics like international politics, but also the situation in europe, for example, on how european countries countries planned to deal with the influx of refugees from ukraine who have a found a safety in europe and how to proceed and go ahead with the or with how to deal with them. but at the moment, also looking at sweden or swedes are worried. looking at polls that the war in ukraine could expand to other countries. 3 out of 4 swedes do have this fear and one out of 3 swedes fear that their country could be invaded by a foreign power. now if you look at sweden's position geographic, it does not border with russia, but it is close enough. there is only finland to divide the 2 countries, and most importantly, sweden is

a neutral country. it has been neutral since the early 1800, that it hasn't participated in any worse since then. and it also is not a member of nato. and at the moment, people in sweden are starting to feel that maybe this might make the country more vulnerable to russia. you rightly talking about security issues, which is a top of the top of the agenda for the certainly the german chancellor in the last 2448 hours show. of course the german government been talking about the possibility of purchasing an anti missile shield system. very much like the iron dome model that is used. of course in israel. can you talk to me a little bit about that julia? to what extent would this be an issue that would be discussed with sweden and what if anything, what, what role, if anything, would sweden be playing in this anti missile system issue?

well, this has not been confirmed yet. what we've heard from the chancellor, all of shaw's yesterday in an interview that he gave to german use public broadcasts or was that there are talks happening about possibly purchasing and installing missile defense system. but they have not confirmed which it would be or, or any further details. he said, since the talks are still happening, he does not want to go into detail, but reports from german daily bids that came out yesterday suggests that the preferred option would be the aero 3 system also produced in israel. and that this system would be deployed in germany and the rater detection system would be based in 3 different locations here in germany and cover quite a broad spectrum of, of territory. julia, you mentioned refugees earlier, which is certainly one of the very big issues coming out of this conflict in

ukraine. there are millions of displaced people from ukraine to 1000000 as a matter of fact, all alone in poland and many more seeking homes elsewhere in europe. now clearly sweden and germany played very prominent roles when it came to the us, you're in conflict and taking in refugees back in 20152016. what as far as you can tell, has been the appetite right now in sweden, for example, of opening their borders and accepting some of the refugees from crime. it's been a concerted efforts in europe at the moment to put forward legislation and open this option to allow people free of fleeing from ukraine to come to europe and stay here for a certain amount of time. and obviously sweden is also taking part in those talks, as is germany. what we've seen here is the public's response in terms of helping

and welcoming all these people who are coming from ukraine has been quite, quite impressive, quite big. it's been a quick and, and impressive reaction really, of people taking people out of ukraine into their homes, trying to organize, for example, classes in school for, for the children and trying to find accommodation and, and housing for people here. and also to enable them to travel towards other countries where they might want to go. so the public response has been strong. and also the response from the governments in europe has been unprecedented compared to previous situations that we've experienced in europe. and many thanks to d, w julius, shout deli, she is going to remain standing by outside this press conference that will be taking place between the leaders of germany and sweden. we will bring it to you, our viewers, as soon as it happens. in the meantime, let's continue with more news out of ukraine. a president vladimir zalinski says he's open to negotiating

a potential neutral status for his country. in an interview with several independent russian news organizations, which the kremlin banned from publication inside russia. so lensky said his team was carefully studying moscow's demand for ukrainian neutrality. he said that the issue would have to be put to referendum. it comes as ukrainian intelligence service warrants that russia is trying to split the country into. after more than a month of fighting key remains in ukrainian hands though, increasingly scarred by war. but even those whose homes have been destroyed, believe that victory as possible with enough help were the services of the war. everything depends on how our western friends help us with the we will win if we get lots of help and we will win soon as it struggles to make advances on the ground. russia has ramped up its bombardments, much of harkey, just 50 kilometers from the russian border,

already lies in ruins. it was ukraine's 2nd largest city. now half of its residents have fled. thousands of those who remain have taken refuge in an we're going now to that press conference, a chancellor, all of schultz is at the podium, will listen to what he has to say. and of course resume we will hear from his readers counterpart german chancellor. all of she to magdalene anderson and berlin mother from our time when we were both finance ministers. since then we've known each other well and have worked together on the basis of cooperation and this cooperation is something we're going to continue in our new functions. and to take even deeper, i'm sure magdalena, a very warm welcome to you here in berlin board. we used to talk today to go into more detail about how we see the current situation and the challenges facing us and

how we want to respond to them. the russian attack of aggression on ukraine and the sweeping consequences that have gone hand in hand with that where the focus of our talk, this is the 5th week of the war, the killing, the destruction, the suffering of the people in ukraine continues to ours by plane from where we are now at the heart of europe, it's incredible and i'm just trying to say by saying that that we do not want to get used to this attack. the attack on ukraine is a flagrant breach of international law, which we will not accept. and we call on the russian president to agree on a ceasefire, and to enter into serious negotiations with ukraine. the russian troops must withdraw from ukraine. the killing must stop. these are understood, this attack is a turning point in history. we know that it has led to us here in berlin, justice magdalena,

in stock on to have changed our political positions that have been in place for decades. and for the 1st time we, as germany, have been sending weapons to a conflict. so we are supporting ukraine with humanitarian financial, and mel a means and we will continue this support as it was. one of the situation in ukraine is a terrible one. millions of people of fled their homes within the country. but also, every day, many women and children and old people are fleeing the country as well. in poland alone, they are more than 2000000 refugees who have sought refuge there. and over 200000 are in germany as well. and this is only the beginning, the longer the war lasts, the more citizens will seek refuge here moving and they will find it just a few days after the russian invasion on the un joined forces and competency of

the you particularly said they would take more refugees people feeling the war and i'm glad about all of the volunteers who for weeks now have been working to try to support the people who fled their homes and come quite, you know, to, you know, germany, they have opened their hearts for the people, fling ukraine and have opened their doors to them as well and their homes. so this is a wonderful example of european solidarity and talk to us. i hardly spoke. i spoke of a turning point in history, and this means that you must be better able to defend itself. germany has decided to strengthen its armed forces. many countries have also announced that they plan to do. this is robert at the nato summit. this turning point in history means also that you must become more independent from russian energy sources. we know that germany must get out of its dependency as quickly as possible from russian oil, gas, and coal. and we are working as fast as we can to diversify our energy source portfolio

. and 2nd, i, my gums towards the current crisis, shows again, just how right and how important it is to energetically pursue our energy turnaround, lima, and transitions. and we're protecting the environment. and doing so, i'm protecting ourselves our aim of achieving and at 0 carbons. it's like, industry in germany by 2045 is more important than ever. europe my show that it is speaking with one voice, yes, sweetener. germany certainly agree on this. we need to get the fit for 55 claim, a package through as quickly as possible in europe. by hipaa we want to continue to work together closely as we've done with energy storage all to work. the war has also had dramatic impact on the food supply loosen far beyond ukraine and on food prices. we need to do everything we can to prevent these issues. hunger crises to $430.00 unwholesome and yours is going to be made available by germany to the wealth organization,

et cetera. you've already in schism magdalena and myself agree that we want to strengthen the even make it more resilient as well. with the turning point in history is something that means we must achieve real progress within the urban union. thus, we talked about the fact that the time has come to kathy albanian and macedonian invest accession. we'll talk soon, begin as soon as possible. otherwise these in both to as well can, states will be vulnerable or russian inferencing. and we need to strengthen our capacity to answer control in terms in a number of different ways. we had a very good talk was very fruitful. magdalena, look forward to our future cooperation and once again, thank you very much for coming to visit us. let me put it another way tab to say mich at for that brazil. my attendance, read her feet in length of thank you very much, olaf. thank you,

chancellor. and thank you for inviting you to come here to day. these are dark times for europe building at own, and they remind us just how important it is to have friends and olaf shoulds is indeed one of our european friends, a friend of sweden, marina of ukraine, and his education, and an embodiment of the european spirit. and oh, why turned to english and thank you all are very much, wasn't wet, a very good meeting and very good discussions. and i think we all wished at that meeting could have take him, let place under more pleasant circumstances, but is always so great pleasure to meet with you. as you said, to us ministers of fine as well, many occasions to discuss several issues. but this is our 1st bilateral meeting as chance chancellor and prime minister. and i look forward to many of those meetings in the years to come our discussion. so i'm not sure to focused on the worsening

secured to situation in europe and how to support ukraine and do your k rainy and people, but also our sanctions against russia, and the russian leadership. what we see right now is that russia's brutality in the ukraine is increasing. we're witnessing more and more that civilian. that's our target for. ah, bumps and artillery. we see hospitals are being attacked. also, children's hospitals. and europe is once again seeing the ugly face of war and president putin and the russian government buried his soul responsibility for this unprovoked and unjustified aggression. and our response had been firm and united in europe and beyond. and it has also been quick cause in record time, we impose sanctions against russia that

a far more reaching and more severe than almost any absorber. would that deemed possible? and it's obvious, the president thought incomplete and misjudged europe's ability to come together and act resolutely were also remain committed to supporting ukraine. would humanitarian financial and military aids. and we stand in solidarity. would ukraine with that firm made by our common values, international law, human rights, and the european security order. and what put in is driving russia into isolation. we are strengthening europe. i recall ma, security and our international corporation. and germany is an important partner for sweden and from our side were highly valued to close dialogue and corporation between our countries know if and i also discuss, thou come to us by latrell corporation and our corporation within the european

union. and to get it, we will continue to build a safer, more secure, and also greener europe. because here we have a common ambitions on a greener future for europe. i think that there is possibility to ask a few questions for we have been listening in to the 1st bilateral meeting between german chancellor. oh, love schultz. fern. of course the swedish leader magdalena anderson are talking about germany and sweden and the larger use role in support. in ukraine, in this conflict with russia, julia. so deli is standing by outside julia. what's your main take away from this press conference? well, clearly a strong condemnation, again, uh, russian president, putin's actions in ukraine. both are left shots and the swedish prime minister,

and that his son stated that the responsibility lies with putting in terms of, of the invasion of ukraine. but also the both countries and both contra representatives saying that they are happy and proud to be working together within the european union. not only to implement a strong sanctions against russia, some of the strongest. and the quickest that have ever been approved by the european union, but also to be providing a help to ukraine in terms of military aid, but also in terms of humanitarian aid. but it wasn't only about ukraine, but also not only directly about ukraine, because the 2 countries, germany and sweden have again said that there is a strong interest for the 2 countries to work together for a greener future to push the increase of renewable energy and projects that can push sustainability and that is also connected to the war in ukraine because especially germany is strongly still dependent on fossil fuels from russia. and it

is a common project, but not only for germany, but from the european union as a whole, to become more independent from russian fossil fuels. and that can happen also only if there is a push to promote renewable energy more strongly. yeah, that's readily the theme of this conversation in this press conference, i should say seemed to be about reaffirming a commitment to this union in europe. that is to fight the aggression as they put it, of landman prudent in his russian forces. and also to continue to give supplies and financial assistance to ukraine. the german chancellor also saying that $430000000.00 euros would be made available to the ruled food agency. so the theme here seems to be about security and sort of the mutual interest in coming together . we didn't hear anything in that press conference about the possibility of sweden

joining nato in order to secure their security. was that it surprised you? no, not really because we know that there has been an increased debate in sweden or for the country to possibly join nato. we've seen public opinion in this sense, for the 1st time has shifted to a slight majority or 4 of people in sweden wanting to join nato. but it is a very slim majority as a 51 percent in favor. and we've seen a cause coming from the opposition in sweden to start a debate. so to promote a sweden's succession to nato. but are the prime minister hell herself has said that she is against this? she does not what to start these proceedings, because she thinks that sweden entering needle would be a destabilizing force for it or security in europe. so experts believe that it won't happen any time soon that sweden might join nieto and it would make sense for

this maybe not to come up prominently in these talks. today the german chancellor took the opportunity to continue to reaffirm the commitment that germany has made recently, that it's going to beef up its armed forces. so that was interesting. it seems to be very much a top of the agenda for germany right now. what is sweden's roland? all of this? in terms of their own military build up word, anything about how sweden might be focusing on each military, given its proximity to rush a suite in itself has been a country that has been neutral for a long time since the beginning of the 1800s. it didn't take part in the wars that have happened since in europe. and it also in the last few decades, did not spend a lot of money for its military for it's defense. and that is

a policy that sweden has been pursuing for many decades now. but what we've seen now with the war in ukraine is that suite in itself has provided military aid and equipment directly to ukraine. but sweden has also promised to up it's military spending to reach 2 percent of g d p and effectively almost doubling its military spending compared to last year. now the 2 percent goal is actually the goal that nato countries are expected to reach in terms of their spending. and even though sweden is not a part of nato following this, this expectation might lead people to think that you may be accessing nato is one of the goals of the government. that's not the case, but it is still symbolic amount of, of, of spending and quite important for a country like sweden that is a d w's, julia. so deli, many thanks. julia you interior ministers are

meeting in brussels for urgent talks about how to deal with the refugee flows. stemming from russia's invasion of ukraine, colon alone has taken in more than 2000000 refugees from neighboring ukraine. since the start of the war, e. u ministers are expected to discuss issues including the distribution of refugees across member states, as well as financial support. d, w corresponding christine moon. what is covering today's meeting in brussels? hey, christine, of walk us through the issues related to the arrival of so many refugees in e u countries. michael, the main issue seems to be that distribution, our fair ukrainian refugees across member states. as you rightly said, poland has taken in the overwhelming majority of ukrainians, a fleet the war. and we now know that berlin and, and warsaw have written to the commission because they would actually like to see

the commission play a more decisive role in terms of distributing a ukrainian refugees across member states. and that's going to be interesting because of prior to going into that meeting or the, the commission's commissioner for refugees. i, if i do, hanson said that she wanted to see member states a step up and take up the initiative. so that's going to be an interesting one. there's also the aspect of additional financial assistance burden, for example, has proposed a fixed amount to be given to the member hosting members state per refugee. something to the tune of a 1000 euros per refugees. interesting if they will confirm that figure at all, but nobody seems to be wanting to discuss quotas and necessarily, and we have to bear in mind that the e u to date does not have a common migration policy. so it'll be interesting to see what they come up with here and whether or not that is now applicable to or migration or in the european union. the interior ministers are also expected to discuss sanctions tell us more

about her. that's right, that is a, specifically the commission i having asked member states i to revoke at the citizenship the permanent residence of any russian and bill or russian nationals that the european union has now sanctioned or blacklisted in relation to the war in ukraine. so as it stands and a number of people, brush nationals, russian, nationals have, for example, what are known as golden passports, that is at citizenship in it from an e u member states, and in exchange for an investment, sum of money. i'm so the commission has asked member states to revoke all of that to take away the citizenship and the permit. resonant statuses of people that the european union has now sanctioned. that job you correspond. christine reba reporting from brussels. many facts watching d. w. news coming up next in d. w. 's, asia. china is a 0 coven. 19 milestone. shanghai enters locked,

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