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smart new solutions over steam set in our ways. earth is truly unique and we know that that uniqueness is what allows us to live and survive global ideas. the environmental series in global $3000.00 on d, w, and online with mikhail other kosky founder was russia's more successful oil companies in the ninety's went from being the ultimate crumb an insider to one of what they will put of most fierce critics. for his views. he paid by 10 years in the russian jail. he's been living in exile in london since 2013 and since put of recent aggression against ukraine. his views became even more outspoken. i met mister hutton kosky in

his london office to talk about the peace talks between the crumbling and key of the perspectives of the russian society, as well as the future of lithium or put of the regime. miss holder kosky talks between her russia and ukraine, mediated by turkey, suddenly started to progress quite quickly. doesn't mean that her wise would put in a serious about a strike, a deal with the crown twins in as that does need you to another, to re difficult or even one week ago i would have said no, ah, because for putting to become serious about these talks years ago from he must realize that he is stuck in ukraine. ah, need you to know that about a week ago, i already said that it will take another week for him to come to this realization. could you return my gressick strangely as he seems to be sticking to my time table? so amy, i says lonia that will store after

a month of war. he has understood that there can be no military solution here. and there is an attempt to transition to a real negotiation process and process. so put in a serious about striking a significant deal with presence, alaska, crap. ha. when you motionless, it shows account. give a definitive answer to this question at the moment im state putin has 2 options now to calibre either he escalates things which could mean either introducing mobilization or using tactical nuclear nist to squeeze that in the world. he is at a point where he has to make a decision and the position of the west is critically important. now you go one ah, on the hood as of to which could be natural. shania is, is western positions needs to be clear, meaning comprehensive support, the ukraine, if the war continues. and in case putin uses tactical nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction should be me. ah,

but the school year didn't waddell's alien awesome that sort of clear position from the west will let say help putin make the right decision. but muggle are put in a put in his pro and to show up. rush officials now say that, ah, the crime in russia will concentrate on don boss on the region of don barson is new . great. what could that mean? ah, but quick wooden missouri is dark when it comes to the military operation and his initial goal replacing the government in keith's. this means he must think about what he can sell to the russian people as far as his gun metal. are those of us, it would have been easier for him to sell? what happened if he had claimed more territories, like the cas on, or the mike les of regions of ukraine? the boy that this would have meant endless guerrilla warfare by ukrainians, and countless russian soldiers, deaths was thrown me, ah,

greens biskin each little, but she is killed up. this would have very quickly destroyed the illusion of victory. let us also. so the only option for putin is to try and keep the regions where there will be no guerrilla war. or at least it won't be in tennis opinion. that is the case in the areas which ukrainians call that temporarily occupied territories, internets and landscape, which he already controls. because they're the segments of ukrainian society that oppose putin have already been destroyed. was they who put in no, no, just, you know, clean, scorched over cushion. most observers do, they believe that rather than putting started this latest campaign against a crane or based on completely false assumptions about ukrainian society, grain and military capabilities, songs force will do understand how does he take decisions and who advises you?

oh, so wouldn't you know, it's obvious to day that russia is a dictatorship and in a dictatorship, only one person makes decisions. that person is vladimir putin, who's any most book for me, or what you will mean as a shook was just as a short, but it's telling you that those in his, in a circle, can only shape his opinion and influence him by either presenting certain bits of information or not presenting them. so listen informatics thing. i am completely convinced that this time vladimir putin was presented a significant amount of false information, both about the situation and ukraine, as well as the condition of his own armed forces. we saw that and put in also had the problem that he was limiting his contacts in accordance with anti cove measures . when he showed that he was panicked about the disease that so that means he really limited who he was talking to. his sources of information can harm us. so you say mr. pudding, committed certain mistakes by self isolating,

by limiting his are the number of his advisors and people from whom he takes advice . did the west commit any mistakes dealing with put oh, oh, the suck was something without, without it did cook noise, the west perceived putin as a well known dictator and autocrat may be even as a corrupt person to me, but still lives as a statesman. some didn't put assertion would, in fact, putin is actually something different to surely he's a thugs, bloodless, snuck, g whistle is absolutely moth. he was now his ruth in the k g b, which with a mafia style organization, which completely ignored the law in noise for so much lena, he has a completely different way of thinking he's come, but i me so stuck him ciocca many attempt to reach a compromise with that kind of the land without 1st showing him strength for with

that is a huge mistake. but one, as you'll see, a blue shoe shock, it only provokes him to take a further step towards an attack at the ceiling which night only when his forces is met with force. what was only then is an agreement, possibles loud. cedric, thor, ha, brochure wendy's. any one in russia who witnessed the matter years in a post soviet russia knows that just yet sit. hm. so me, when you and i understand that especially well because i spent 10 years in jail with these kinds of thugs says up the media. myoshi touched on what, but going me explain by them. so i rippled heatedly tried to explain this to western leaders, was i am glad now that at least mister biden, judging by his remarks in poland as understood this and took a position that is immediately clear to any thug. if you attack me, i'll hit you right back, butch, not dumb to look well the western through this unprecedented sanctions against over

there. a pudding regime are still we keep hearing that rationale. galks russian billionaires are just moving their assets from the west to locations like eastern bull or of united or arabic merits, up so all the safe not get muslim. and those near us as, let's 1st of all, what we need to see very clearly that putin has become, or maybe he always was an enemy of the west hills. but that up is his declared position up. he is also put it in writings, including in russia's national security doctrine. ah, he's at peace and lamp was, it's was a prisoner, as long as he is in power. no one in europe can be safe. that you were a europe will have to spend huge amounts of money on its security money, which could have been put to better use. but it stays at places. are gormley ginger politic gormley genius so it was a person scuttle. it is extremely important for europe and america to put their

political systems and their economies outside the reach of what i would call putin's extended arms are pretty squishy, and his instruments are not only his secret services, but also business men who depend on him. the people who refused to call aggression aggression, refused to call the war criminal putin, a war criminal. and these people are trying to move their money somewhere. and you know that it's not that easy to do. he would business. here at the t lucia got to lucy just up cause of woods and once again on the west, a much distance itself from these people were un. what was to pick up would not weigh in the bristol and tossed to it. lou to put those so viciously to put it simply more was that one cannot compare the money they will bring with the money the west will have to spend to ensure its safety. shes resume almost to teasing kirkwood only put in your suit. it is ginger cut doors up to plead your security.

natasha is an expensive thing that the dangerous nobody else does. a person stood in in your personal view. how will put his regime and will it be a could a t r? will it be a popular uprising? up or probably it will continue in, evolve by chance from ha, utley chairs, a large country is different from other smaller countries. focused with because any dick tutorial regime has more possibilities of containing the problem. with celine, no matter what the level of public discontent is, prestige skew would've been obsessed in the one in the woods. hi, tim pneumonia. however, we can look back through history q, with the studies. your history tells us that threats to such a regime either come from the leaders in a circle loose somewhere or another risk is armed people, the army ah,

the we were yeske at the world wrongly luge. and there is option number 3, which are the toughest one. know, like in iran, glucose is when a dictator stays in power until his natural death. if a video that could even be 10 years or more, the quiver could use that. but those are for you. so we're still door, some we smarter the better option would be if russia could transition into a more federal structure. looks like maybe even a confederation of some sort bullet gradually. and that path would have a more real chance if the to 1st auctions of regime change happened really was to p . m. he ah, it with of or put she would shutoff yesterday and will do trailers, albany purely in poverty yet bill. oh, good money. you know,

i was in germany recently sleeve me and i talked to people who remember the past. no, which is to lead him as at the exc. and i asked them how quick the d not suffocation process in germany was gentlemen. they said that german society only really started to perceive hitler in the way that we perceive him now as a global force of evil. and started to feel horrified with what germany did. it was somewhere around 1968. so over 20 years later us in a generation later, early unfortunately. but i think that in russia where i see that process won't be fast either. doug's were and you think mile over the me? mr. macowski. thank you very much. but him with into the conflict with sebastian, how worry the russia spies about the progress of the war?

a small volumes of investigative journalist was managed to pierce the veil of secrecy among them. andre phone, bertha founder and the 3rd be again tour website which tracked russia who tele, do services is really difficult for psychological eval. i'm flicked zone because up on the bottom. but kind of on d, w is a beautiful building will be here by india. a city grilling at breakneck speed at the expense with when we go into eviction. notice this is where our family lives. a native city will buy from the slums to skyscrapers in 45 minutes on d. w o. stand alive and on

demand content in language courses with video and audio any time anywhere that d w media center now into it's 2nd month. the war in ukraine has failed to give russia the quick victory warranty. and there are signs of growing discontent among the political and security elite back in moscow. a small band of investigative journalists is managed to pierce the veil of secrecy around those officials. among them, i'm dress, hold data founder and editor of the eigen tour website, which tracks rushes intelligence services. he's my guest this week from london. how worried russia spies about the progress of the war? people inside are not really happy.