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the u. s. has promised an investigation and further sanctions on russia. at this our coming up next as docked film, the children of sarajevo. i'll be here after a sharp break and play richardson in for lynn for me and the team here working behind the scenes with take your time for an experiment about time. it can be measured precisely. and yet each person experiences it differently as if there are different forms of time with the dimension and illusion. about time starts april 14th on d, w. ah
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ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, please forgive the smells mirror lost the wall. none of this free a row the law, the way to die. i ah
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was i why does do the true oh no. you just gave from memory. oh, so i do say 0 b o b a, b it what the, what kind of i've returned to the balkans, dozens of times. look in the middle she give us into i don't want to put this place
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behind me because i feel via ashley's. i think a part of my stories interwoven with the war as i've experienced feel other than what eats. i think people die and surviving. don't go into. okay. i wonder, constantly seem to see, why are these people left without a presently, possibly without a future people to go with a lead down by the crisis produced by the war? personally, a little i need some answers. i i go what those do the true? oh, you again gave for so i
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have to phase urine. the bmw said child to some all i went through god. i remember one of the firemen putting out the flames in the library novel house total. i stood in the doorway to my house and saw this injured fineman coming out of the building with a shot of glass sticking out of his back. i was sent down to the basement to its former for was it so that's my very 1st memory of the wall global nissan and i knew almost nothing about the sorry you have a library back then i me let me it was just a beautiful building called on the of
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it's cost me, i guess i only understood the significance of what the serbs had done when i got older. dr. rods, they burned more than 2500000 books. in the, on the canadian i saved the book called teddy conical tank off his wallet, teddy's valor tuck williams. i saw the neighbors told me off when they saw me entering the library and took me to my mother. but i refused to let go of that book and co mom. i was told not to enter again because of the smouldering fire and the state lottery. the some of you that ah you with good, but it will to you fun. how go to work now everything is good now. okay.
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hello. i'm very good. if when nino, this is the boy who led me and my colleague francois mother around, sorry, it was library, but i'm showing us a safe way around the building just some days after the fire. he was living with his younger brother, an older sister, and his mother in a shack next to the library and he'll, he'd never been to school and missed out on many things. but he was a very intelligent care technology. ha. later he met a woman who had 2 children and went on to have a 3rd with her in a while, he has a hard time talking about and he clearly suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. and he carries this burden because the population of bosnia didn't receive any help after the war. no help at all. mm . oh
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ah ah yes, of course i got the other children to day who are the same age as i was back then are growing up in times of tastes. society go full, valued the total they play football. and the other thing you said outside, cuz my mom does when we were 10 or 11, we used to play war games 1st month of child, we'd run through the destroyed library and sometimes we'd heard each other people d, as in dog, really football was less important football maybe and 3rd or 4th place at the funny asked d. r. a barbara. this is la maya with timing down the war took many things away from ace card charge
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. i could have been a good footballer. mobile somewhat gets quote from bali do so i had the talent, but nobody to support me after the war came to an end call me cause you're more need in nearly a small ward out quarters. only lawful mom. he, mom, i'm at osalla, but now that i have amen, i'm trying to give him everything. i couldn't have him out of a couple people. i do need to charge us kids back then we're all talented until the m. and every one was good at something time, but we never succeeded fire. we are not on a jumbled luca niece was killed. tis queen meal forgot. how were we
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supposed to was to me, we had to fight for our survival tools. was evolving the war was our biggest success conquest on the 0 percent. i told him i would choose with . busy i stopped photographing the dead because i realized that the dead were the smallest problem in a raging wars. they're buried and then that's it will be. and then what happens to the living area? philadelphia i could have gone to the morgue to photograph the bodies of dead children on a daily basis. i chose to avoid it because after 4 years of this, you say, it's better to talk about the living. ah
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ah yes. but the low, the pitcher, any of i think this is the 1st picture which i've yes, it's very interesting picture for me because you will see the un and you'll see the kids are playing in the sack. i will during divorce. so i kind of lost my friends and the other people to share this picture. and so talking to people who are even
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in that part of, sorry, i have all and i have so many comments and suggestions who can be that and the after that i received a couple information that the those goals are 5th of selma and alimony assistance. yeah. and i find them on facebook clamping with them, and they will join to the our project. yeah. ah, designs that alma compliance a, a melissa, i was 5 when the world again my phone systems have off to finish my studies and to is them today. i was in various hotels in sarajevo without them will thought
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i will either today says she, a political situation is very difficult. broad. was there a point on mine cover that there are a few opportunities for young people. yeah. them lot of job. you call it into so i was talking about my youngest sister zelma recently completed a teaching degree faculty god that she always wanted to be a teacher. fell of an image is applied for jobs every when the con, find one cup, grammar, football. that's why she looks after my daughter long, the at the ah, oh, really that is my uncle bought it until on. my was important says xyz that's molars . very close need family. this walk with we talked daily and meet a few times
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a week. so even if it's just for coffee and a short chance, bad nick or somewhere or knock with molly to poppy, and we'll call this everything went approaches, comma, but then what are the nights? so when it comes to the war, we usually just made, jo, they not to that. and i think our parents want to talk seriously about water. you probably remember some funny anecdotes from the time in both talk wings that make us laugh today. and that is i got called on to their son to knock with us national office. but you know, count fine books soccer conceal over. there may be look this with most of the genius matthews's. i'm was, i'm excited and curious. mostly curious. you probably not today. i'm looking forward to meeting this person who was so interested in his back then when we weren't even interested in our family coming in he found seventies with danny and bill of mom, which has a figured out that the it was impossible to take peaches then that would that,
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but i don't have any from that period of my life sleep call. i think the photo of asco took is the only one we have from the time of the war, or get bitter. the queer, me, mom. ah, my mom, i know shibel a shock. my mother was the most surprised to see it because she demanded explanations from us even after all these years are like when was this photo taken? how could someone photograph you even alone in the street corner who was looking off to, you know, and i, we told her we'd escape from granny to go out and play lavonne on. i'm was speechless and i could see the same angry look in her eyes that she used to have when we were being naughty, like kid really malec of nurse taught alisha. mm .
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ah, my dad is putting, quoting here with this man who photographed the war in sarajevo. he's the one who took pictures of children playing a straight fema latest photo was taken here from valley. listen, i can't tell you anything about this one and none of those faces ring a bell. you should, i don't see very well any more, to be honest, where you wanted to even maybe someone else is still living here. who is around that age at the time? like, remember some thanks. i think it's a morning i should check with amier who lives over there and there. exactly. over there that was put in the owner of the pizza. ria, downstairs has lived here for more than 30 years and he stayed he throughout the war ca, you ask if they lived here during the war? this picture was taken next door. how had he can recognize someone law or to with he moves or something also noticed the pool.
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we have a m o u t. know who's in this picture? nice. i'm not, i'm not in the picture. that's for sure. but oh i think that's yes me in the patio 5. yeah. i have his number. oh, those are the windows of my house. oh, those went down at any of your house via mobile. i'll give him a call from. ah and do this okay. i'm i'm skinny. here, no leafy natalia, i was leaving here the unit as me. yes. and the silica is part of the city? yes. and it was my neighbor. okay. same floor like of, of all the,
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the of the budget is with blue. a moment for your own, you know, she, this guy went to croatia rica playing h years ago. although i'm with this one here is amara, i'm august, adriano adrien in sarajevo ranch, me in english like oz. he didn't leave me. ah, you see the smile of, of all this is amazing i, this is amazing for me. it was like, i smell the 3 of you hungry g r. you need me don't know what looks good to know what will happen in all the original any. how many a to a bill was took out to children are boy, you know, boy, it was the best. what are one of the best times of my life? that's what she put. i look fellow sounds paradoxical. one, what it was was mayor,
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but a fib soon on. know, we started dedicating herself to sports back, then went back porch to basketball teams, but of course sure who you are. right. so our generation wanted to play basketball . that's not many wanted to play football. we had a lot of fun, was even got us where we followed the embedded games are still ada updates was commentating in general. bon rob bernard, start ga, ga, ga, pippen, chicago, or new york nikki iceland o. houston rockets are kids that we were hoping to play professionally. not that somewhat one, at least in a european god will ropes course lead illness. my full name is tommy abdulla can be colvin coach. i was 15 when the war began at nashville. i became a pro basketball player after the warrant boy, both spoken of to move it to post operational. i played for the national team of bosnia and herzegovina, and captain the bosnia, sarajevo, club, columbus on. no,
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no, no sir. then i played for 2 foreign clubs. the sun is under colon denali rodge. cox which can go to la mosier within bo, quoted elijah touching disk suddenly that is until i suffered a back injury or a herniated dish caused by bad living conditions. and poor nutrition during the walk was not allow me for that same reason. most bosnian athletes of my generation had their careers cut shorts. it was to nicholas would la this mine ended suddenly at $24.00 or $25.00. at the peak of my career, allied in the building blocked mantles, music potential . so i remember how he played cards here. oh, how could i forget? i remember everything. leave me look for almost everything. look for when will
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you lost here with a pin in september. i think from them i don't come here often. sometimes i look at the courtyard from above. my mom planted this a get really nostalgic me to ah, it brings back memories. ah, nicole which shoots the bowl game with how to play, not a 3 pointer, a free throat. okay. is that a lot of this? i might assume that all blue blazing in the may 92. for one night approximately dozens, dozens of grenades fell here. it was like, like apocalypse, phillip apocalyptic, you know, and the find out it's all windows are broken and,
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and did you you, what did he stay in the, in the yes mind. and they asked man, and i, and that even down we do, our parents in the basement of business was a, practically, there isn't that window. the basement thing. and i remember every time that grenade seville fell down with the local, very scared of to could to put your the charge on cars. you preclude the search with tea when it's all began or it was the 1st time we had to face such a situation to be lost, cra, orchestra was awful. start from your own own, but i wasn't afraid, maria, to really felt like i was in a movie with her. i didn't think my life was in danger. you at me and i saw it differently on context growers and i thought i'll survive this. we're passing a to a real own was such a huge to the worst part about it. with the filthy conditions we had to live in, and she will still get the everything got so dirty because the shells made the dust fall from the ceiling to the pressure. now that we were filthy and it was cold
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floors verbena. well maybe it wasn't that cold on the humidity of the self and all that was the worst on warner. what god, i felt miserable and stripped of any dignity carcass or so. so that's how i felt truck made those 3 are tunnel when it was down and that basement helix resume is if i had no dignity some so soon as to 1000 a problem with . and it wasn't so pleasant to see older people. oh, good that the couldn't not find the any answer and solution and, and usually even in new york and you're watching to do all your parents, your old old people, how david will erect. and that, that david lost and scared ah,
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i always feel got be downloading because that i ever was the host of the 1984 winter olympics moody. and it was a multi ethnic, multi cultural city community with different cultures and religions, coexisting harmoniously, and in money that he almost then it became the city where the myth of coexistence was shattered. several piano, where the bridges that had been built were destroyed. and when the reform 1st they were cracked and then later he destroyed glasgow losses vehicle. ah red. thank god. when did the warrant that saved them officially in 1996 was told that this is shifting back then there was no telephone or anything bill until so we played games in the street. us was a football football game,
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optima had origin, a kid we used to play by the library and when foreign travelers would ask you, what can i bring you from my country to minute? my answer was always the same family, a football display. as in elliot clubs, roger, that's why i had the best footballs after the war. i'd really love it. you can't imagine how hard it was to get a hold of a football shack with it could be a little up to now. but we also played with marbles, plaza diagonally, kit, on the eleger. yes, cliff was anyone we knew a soldier during the war? elecom for lack of meal. yes, broncho russia was in the war warriors who saw in the broncho poo you, they were all soldiers inch ushio dollar. they were protecting us from the attacker that to have guns. yes. undo. how did you survive when you fell from the 4th floor of the library? and such, ext, i didn't fall from the 4th floor, but from the 2nd 3. sure. you know how the stairs got broken and really my komatt. so some steps were missing here. my ocr, i slipped and fell to the ground through one of those gaps. so they had to bandage
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me all off for me, i was a total mess with a broken arm and leg hilbert. tell me some more stories that up. and i clicked on the column of literature world that too, so i don't usually talk to america about the war because there are certain things. i don't think he needs to know at his age e, no stamps. so there's a lot, i haven't told him about my childhood breach because i just don't think he's ready to miss yolanda. does not all swing on the lawn. yasemin yasemin of him gotten emma, when i was amass age. now she says i was already a man. somebody'll say all the things i saw and lived through them. it's like i was already 20 years old, then not 9 or 11. the time will come when amen grows up. and i'll tell him about everything that happened here in gluck. there's no snow. now. do you like it better with or without snow,
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without having to share or wait and see how nice and green everything will be in summer actually in the library was nice it before and they say it was rebuilt exactly as it was, but i think it was nice of before on call from you know, next shania. we have photos of the old library at my school. lou
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ah ah ha, shall he ma'am mini to satisfy your near to the oak upon to his m a t. i don't believe he is where they buried him any will. it's just the resting place of his body was him and his soul is within me. his family and everyone who loved him, he puts leisure. what a mallet armour is, gone is to every time i visit his grave, i say let's have a smoke. and then we smoke together. one cigarette for huh? and one for me. yes ma'am. we hadn't said, ah
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ah, we may have a shaft a. my name's al yoshi bash it or the night i was almost 7 when the war began. some of somebody was emma missouri, slaves house to leverage t a. g o z lamara mac uncle. my mother came screaming out of our building union picked me up from school hoodie. she seen it on the way home. she cried and said some small, this is gone, the war has begun. villamore, that's not relaxing. i remember as my father at the door with a gun in his belt. yes, awesome. he volunteered for the front and we didn't see him for a long time on that to go visit for at least 3 or 4 months. it's as if i lived in the changing tree in the neighborhood, then changed from that's where i still live. nissan eli key knoxville is clearing
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the boy. we lived in hiding in the but every now and then we went out to play in front of the building that comes to that house today. i'll let him out. i had an old car
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death changed many things in my life. a part of me died that day. so happiness that shakes person quit and i was of the sadness drama of that life or not. then that's what makes you the person you all ah, ah, cut that out for child mom and i don't announce total of that with their mother is confessed with my mother kept on working as a nurse when the will began to just doing many more hours than the full it's harko,
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but i found that who took my father stopped working. the taxi driver and join to bosnia and herzegovina nami had forgotten her father. ah, ah, ah ah, my name was named belinda means i jim went out for us. the most important thing was to be outside to cock. we didn't understand that it was dangerous to be in the straits yet. so if we saw from the window that another kate had gone out to throw, who would also try to go out straight away all a bit sad it? mm. oh no, said thompson bosco's at 1st. is it all goes to some place evil or threat door for storm? no guardia turquoise? i don't feel like a wool victim with because i survived to get to thoughtfully and believe the other
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children had it much worse. he or barrack many became disabled oh, from above cornell. it's john said that didn't happen to me. so i didn't feel like a vic didn't quite matter. now more difficult to war, probably affected me psychologically. viola thought i'd look, but i think somehow it might be stronger me and told me that some things just happen. every oil, tall or e know, and you have to deal with them if you want to survive. what are the simplicity of it? moses do feel like a victim of the war for because if it hadn't been for the war bill, everything would have been very different. it should come ah no semester. meanwhile, part of job to put, she wrote to me, my name's yasamin le party. i was 12 when the war broke out that i had started university in 1999, a quarter of 1000 fuson fulton, commodus to no. i wanted to 30 criminology,
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so i thought i could fight against the crime that was most common during the time of the war and still is that is the political corruption occurred that was my plan to go to lunch. he came home to pull me real hard corner car, and i wanted to fight against this injustice for voting for to it's a major justice to abortion. some wise, i think it's even worse than the war itself. director. none that are more of them since the monks now i know that i can't change anything and i don't feel that obligation any more. i realized that i can't i try it, but they didn't let me well is with all sounds wellness. they didn't give me a chance to make an impact on monday. the i'm missing then on that this point and i think it's simply impossible. suddenly, on or nothing, i stopped following politics and i feel better because of it. so so new she and i
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try to enjoy culture instead and pool awed couldn't on to last a sore she she, she, i don't know. i think everybody lost her room once the people who died the injured oh on there was material and economic damage rooms could there were so many different losses. so glue that the people last, well, the military and the politicians still do. they didn't lose, not of didn't, they would profit again. if there were another war, kaji was currently the blue excuse on in the ocean golden vouch war, they would win again for bill pit. the little 1st world. ah
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ah. each an inside delivery brochure the as soon as i 1st saw that photo, i haven't only been thinking about that time. but about my life in general. and i couldn't fill that out too much. is was that that is it's been good to reminisce even though it has been painful. don't, don't have a minute on the phone was 18070, some jacobo, belligerent. i can't stop yawning. what time did you wake up? i didn't get much sleep, whole news of me neither. maybe because of this meeting still, i don't know. maybe my subconscious kept me off alone. i'm a thorn on this hasn't happened to me for a long time, for quantile flung around. you know, i've been thinking about why adrien didn't want to come look close for,
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i think it's because he experienced everything in a very different way. huh. because he's croatian world, people treated him badly on some really? yeah. even after the war all did he talk about is like, oh no, never cause that's why i'm telling you read me because we would have protected him or some other. so it was a very difficult time for all of those who fled to sarajevo. but also for the locals who weren't muslims, literally only broke. they stayed because they felt bosnian chic. i think this is the group of people that we ignored. and it was exactly this idea that destroyed bosnia cost on a k digital. if we were smarter, we would build the biggest monument to those non muslims who died. defending bosnia spoke elizabeth. they're the best example of what the idea of bosnia was. i
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he said to what sheila, to such as the see me was attacked, she is te, customers, iraq to prove it was always cool but still started in 1996 or 9070 chrome. we went back to school after the law getty, when we came to class on the 1st day, they asked for a full names. i p, she moved i, they wrote my name down and asked or caught your religion or beard. and i said, what do you mean? what's my religion if you need that to like a 30, i was told yes. so we have to add that the list were up to the. but how can i choose a religion that you minister, that my mom's an orthodox bosnian and my dad's a muslim?
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what am i supposed to answer without offending my parents are didn't to be. i'd rather not write anything. after they told me, you can't leave it blank. so i said to hutcher my teacher an attempt to go and write muslim this year either and next year, serbian who was here today. i see myself as an agnostic, i feel bosnian and proud to belong to the group of others in bosnia and herzegovina . hashed us as the chief, the postwar period has lasted 25 years to be a good enough us. many things should have been resolved by novela. so start date, an agreement did, and the more could they put it in a way. it also put everyone in bosnia and herzegovina in china. and no one can change anything in the midst of your career. 3 manama, if one ethnic group tries to change something in the stamina another, immediately invoked its nationalist interest in the keep attacking each other clearly and then climb. they're defending us against the others. we tell him a tim allen 3 is, but in reality it could,
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it could not. the politicians are still stealing countless millions and destroying the country from within the crowd as she they lie to us just cheat and use our thoughts. and when i flush from what is left for us is good. i mean nothing. i'm what do we have to day but absolutely nothing. my mission but qualities. oh oh. ah oh oh, are you with a no. what is it? what is hello. automatic good to hear from you. so he mother. oh okay. by the way. no. yeah, the only live only
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a a a thing totally before i don't know anything, nothing. my mother kind of thing before. no. my mother is we thought in case they went to a few minutes facility. okay. oh okay. thank you miss it. thank you so much. my, my mom, my family with pushing a little cold here. she's logan a call who to talk with
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. mm hm. ah ah. okay. no one can. is it possible you can do this? why does the past wait so heavily on the bucket? sofi? why does that happen? that when the past appears, it interrupts and destroys everything black and white. all these children we have seen suffering have to pay for the mistakes of their parents. my grandparents and great grandparents are we human such savages that we are incapable of living without violent
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