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[000:00:00;00] ah, ah ah, this is dw live from berlin, ukraine's president accuses russia of trying to cover up war crimes. mounting evidence of the intentional killings of civilians in towns or on keith has prompted international outrage. president zelinski visited the town of butcher and will address the un security council later today. he expects evidence of more mass killings to come to light his clothes, or she needs
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a visa or war crimes and will be recognized by the world as genocide which when it does not hold that you are here and can see what happened for yourself. children. bush, also coming up germany says it will lend moldova 50000000 euros to help deal with the 10s of thousands of ukrainian refugees that have found shelter there. and to reduce the countries dependence on russia. we'll hear from the moldova prime minister, who's in berlin today, asking for international support. ah, i'm glad out as well come to the program. ukrainian president vladimir zalinski has called the killing of civilians in the town of butcher war crimes. and genocide are as mounting international anger over images of mass graves and bodies showing signs of torture and rape. russia denies the accusations and says it will present
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evidence to the un security council that its forces have not been involved in these atrocities. a warning, our next report contains images. some of our viewers may find disturbing on the streets of butcher. it looks as though russian troops have only just been driven out. many bodies of civilians have only just been recovered. the ukrainian interior ministry invited journalists from around the world to come and document what took place here. moscow has called these scenes a stage managed anti russian provocation. ukrainian president for laudermill zalinski is here to get a 1st hand view. he is visibly emotional when he describes women who were ranked in front of their children, entire families executed. he says his country must keep on fighting, but also negotiate yellow rad. sure. i am convinced that we will achieve peace on ukrainian territory from ukraine cannot live in
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a constant state of war because this is europe, and this is the 21st century he will be. the hood was once personal studies, the interior ministry tanks, us on buses, through checkpoint, after checkpoint, past the burnt out remains of civilian vehicles. it's a dangerous trip. our guide says he is expecting new attacks from russia soon. in the village of mathematician authorities take us to a site where 4 bodies were found among them, children gone with ya. my family is lying over there. we are in that hole. i don't know why they were killed. they were loving no good people. we were few of them were room with global wonder to me shortly afterwards, volunteers exhumed the bodies and take them away to pull this come, have tortured, beaten,
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and murdered. an entire family they will be brought to justice is that we will find all of those who carried out this terrible crime needs launch and there are hundreds of bodies and very little time to give the victims a proper burial. these are also images from future mass graves. this woman buried her husband in her own back yard. she says she just once piece was out of bed. you implore you, please do something. i'm talking to you as a ukrainian wife. the mother of 2 children and a grandmother. you got the president's and lensky future is representative of what he calls the genocide rusher is committing all across ukraine. he says the world must bear witness to it. well, our correspondence now commonly was in boucher. on monday, lilian,
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he spoke to me about what he saw that which is a city that basically has been destroyed before it could even be completed. this is city full of new build apartments for young families on the edge of care. and we bases stuck here in downtown kia for the last few weeks hearing the artillery fire hearing the missiles, hearing the devastation from a fall. but we could still hear where we are here, but we couldn't get there, but it was under russian control to fighting. now, finally would be able to get in and take a look at it for ourselves. it's pretty difficult place to look at. so you can see a lot of signs of devastation, lots of shrapnel, lots of munitions is lying everywhere you go and that's after it's been cleared up in recent days by the grading forces of burnt russian tanks. but most importantly, lots of signs of civilians who've lost their lives. people telling us of their relatives who went out to try and find some food during that month or so, or under ocean control being shot on the streets and then not even being able to recover their bodies for fear of getting shot themselves,
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having to watch as their relatives lay on the streets there. we went to a mass grave near a church where the locals had tried to recover those bodies, even while the russians were still in charge. i took, took it to us about the risks they faced, trying to recover. those bodies lay as a bodies from different periods, some just wrapped in blankets. some just in the clothes they'd been found in an attempt by the locals to collect the id documents on people if they had any on them to then lay to be able to now get in touch with their families, their friends, to reconstruct what happened. um, we also went to a cellar of a children's home. they camped where there was blood on the wolves, bullets, and its place where as ukraine side says, civilians were executed. and certainly i've spoken to photographers who were there while the bodies were still in place. they've been recovered by time we got there. so it's a, it's a place of great destruction of fear among p there. but you do notice a very insistent relief on the part of those people who stayed there all the time.
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happy now to be living without artillery, without fire going on around them. but lots people, they're not really convinced that this is the end of this not fully able to believe that they are now going to be safe in the homes. so what's being done now to document what happened there and to identify the perpetrators? well, the cranial authorities are making a big effort to try and get people to tell their story, while their memories are still fresh and clear in certain parts of this key of region. when you even just turn up, you get an automatic text message from the government, asking you to relay your experiences. and to document that to protocol that on a more kind of civilian volunteer level to people who had dug those graves, try and recover the of the civilians talked about having lists, having excise books full of names full of basically people writing down their, their experience, their protocol as it happened over that last month. and certainly there will be now an attempt on the part of the ukraine government to take this on whether or not
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they will ever get any chance to put some of these russian military people who are on the ground and in charge of witcher in on trial that seems fairly unlikely, but at least they wanting now to create a record and to make sure this can't be denied or forgotten. did you correspondence nick connelly, they're reporting from keith. thank eunice. moldova is appealing for help and coping with the flow of refugees from ukraine, some 100000 peoples, half people have found shelter in the small country, which is one of europe's poorest germany now says it will extend no strings attached. 15000000 euro loan to help the country. the german government is hosting a donor conference to raise money for moldova former soviet republic that said from ukraine, southwestern border. i believe. and we'll be crossing live shortly to a press conference a year in berlin,
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where the mold often president will be joined by the german, french and romanian foreign ministers. but 1st, this report, followed by 2 w. correspondence proceed won't bump from the mold oven, city of, or a it's hamil homes like rees in this village in or hey, whose doors have opened to ukrainians, fleeing the war in their country. this is maryanne, his house. 10 people live here now, sharing the little her family has the latin infant. i've earned a small salary. electricity is more expensive. groceries are more expensive. we can't afford everything we need. despite that, she is taken in 2 families from ukraine, including her sister in law, oksana, husky, miasca, fled her home in odessa. in february. she's here with her daughters, latter, who wanted to show us that she can do the splits, goes letter. oh,
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bravo. i miss our home, my husband, he was there a living room. so no built our house with our hands, wasn't it broken? the only thing we have left is our home for the thought. no clue those that really from where people it will in any gretisca was moved by the plate of ukrainian refugees and decided she had to help. she is using her honey making factory to store the donations she's collecting for women and children. it's not much, but they're, you know, a little and little we, it, we are collecting the help that we need. i am a mom that i have 2 boys and i can not imagine what feel not mothers not to live in their house says at this christian camp more help for ukrainians here. they can also get medical attention from volunteer nurses. we met an yes of its sky here.
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she's longing to go back home. one dreamed it. i have just come back to crane. i know is it i want to be is in stay in ukraine and we have to plan just to rebuild our country. after 400000 refugees that have passed through moldova since the war began in february, about 100000 are still in the country. montalvan authority said they need help looking after them. the 1st responders for the support was definitely the governmental republic of moldova. at the same time, i saw a big m, a port from the population. civilian population, without international support, we cannot face entire, they're there for geez, or to support them. that support is now slowly coming in and it will go
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a long way in helping the ukrainian refugees and the mold buildings who helped them or from murky she now armor joined by the w. correspond christine manuel, who filed the report. kristin: what kind of support do the refugees? moldova need most urgently right now. got it. the basic sir? food. ah, feminine hygiene products for for the women are diapers for the children in a lot of cases. clothing because most ukrainians fled only with the clothes on their backs. and so there is a collection of clothing that's been happening among modot, vince sharing from the little that they have a in addition to the support the ukrainians need. it's also the mold ovens we've taken them in because of the 100000 refugees that remain in the country right now. 95 percent of them are being housed are in the homes of moldova. this is something that i heard from the authorities that the mold organs have been outpouring in their show of support for ukrainians, opening their own doors, insisting to to house them as opposed to having them stay in the official and
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centers that have been set up by the government, so these households are often themselves, am in need as prices are going up here, there is inflation in this country as well. many people reporting that income isn't covering or the basics, but they've still gone on at to extend the support and, and these households also need financial support to be able to assess the refugees, and that they are housing cruising ukrainians. are flea in all directions a why are so many arriving in this tiny country that is model iraq out since the rushes, the invasion of ukraine, about 400000 ukrainians have passed through moldova, for the most part, they're not looking to stake yet, and they're trying to get into the european union and an easy parkway and is to get through moldova to romania because mother of also she is a border with romania, romania being an e. u. member states. and in many others launch off. it's either different directions from there. so this is predominantly a trans, a country, but will
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a country of $2600000.00 people to have an additional 1. 100000 people is of course as a significant bird. and so for the most part, at the patterns have shown that they're not looking to stay here. they're passing through, but they do stay a week a few days at most and, and it's the mold oven authorities. we've also been sustained with, with the transportation addresses. those refugees who want to get into the opinion of i, romania and other avenues across in berlin today is hosting an international aide conference for moldova. we're just minutes away from a joint, a press conference or fi, or german, romanian french or foreign ministers on the mold oven. president of what is moldova hoping will come out of that. the realization here is that ukraine isn't going to be a place many people can go back to for a long time. so the people that on the government is now thinking about how to, to sort of integrate them into society to get the ukranian children into schools.
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for example, have somebody you claim refugee women into, into working positions into the job market, which itself is very limited, even for bulldog. and so there is a sense that there needs to be some kind of long term planning. moldova of ortiz ability, even more capacity, an anticipation of more inflows, that the kind of numbers that we saw initially when the invasion 1st broke out in february. those numbers that down from about 20000 people crossing the border a day to about 2000 and, and now we're about a few 100 people at today. but the anticipation is that more might come in if the situation further deteriorates in a city like odessa, pushing more people into this country. and this country just needs to be ready not only to support ukrainians, but also the mall drove in while ready doing the most part in terms of shouldering the burden of supporting acquainted refugees was christine, aside from the refugee of problems, there are on the wrong in moldova, many observers,
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the her said the mold over is maybe next on the list or of the after the kremlin. herb, do you get a sense that people there are afraid good might, they might become a target you know, get hard when i was there in the city of, oh hey, visiting our people. as you saw in that report, people told me that they actually heard at some of the, the bombs as they fell on ukraine, especially in february when they, when the tax initially happened. and so that really brought that situation close to home. and when they started seeing the ukrainians come in at there is a sense of fear among some people here at that. moldova could be next in the sense that there is a, a region in this country called trans new sca. it's them home to predominantly, russian speaking, moldova, or this part of the country people affiliate very strongly with russia to the extent that there is not too much integration with, with them. the romanian, speaking population of moldova, the people in transmits, get, they identify i with,
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with ukraine, they are more interested in affiliated with, with russia, and the east than they are with the west. we seen are, for example, that this country has approve e, you government. i had just 10 days, or rather, a week after, at russia's invasion of ukraine. this country formerly applied for e u membership. but that particular region sees things very differently. and people here told me that for example, if right, a ukraine would have full to russia. and because of the sentiment in trans csgo, perhaps russia could also i at that part of moldova. so it is a big fear for some people at they don't, they don't, i mean it's not something that they're necessarily preparing for, but they do have that in the back of their minds. but right now, at the support is for the ukrainians who are coming in. i haven't spoken to a single person. i in or he or in the capital case now who supports rushes invasion after you create cosima. they're reporting from
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a mall dover. thank you very much. christine and while we're waiting for the joint press statement of the foreign ministers and the mold over, no president here in berlin. let's have a look at the plight of children in all this because since rush was invasion of ukraine, more than half of the countries, 7 and a half 1000000 children have been displaced, while summer fled with their mothers. others have been either separated from their families or sent away on their own in the hope they will reach safety. their future is now being discussed in the you parliament, in strasburg to day. it's hard to know what this child has been through. he and his dog, along with hundreds of other refugees, a waiting to cross from ukraine into poland. every day, tens of thousands are trying to escape war. many of them children
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are t m and his mother and sister have just arrived in warsaw, poland. he wanted to leave the ukrainian capital key because of the fighting. why he knew i campbell, i was very, very scary. i said to my mother, let's go to poland. she talked it over with my father and we moved to poland lee and came here. once you bring for those about the you and children's agency, unicef estimates that almost $4000000.00 ukrainian children have so far been displaced because of the wall. while mary stir accompanied by members of their family, others had been sent away on their own. malesky within that were you, her 2 weeks ago, my child traveled from keith to france, mar, say. now we are going to see the child in a, sorry, have a good day. these children are in care. some of them orphans,
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they've already been evacuated twice because of the wall and, and now being housed in what used to be a sanatorium in another part of ukraine. morgan is a cigar. i am not worried about myself for those who stay here. i'm just worried about my loved ones who stayed in the don't yet. regionally. my mother and younger brother are there. my mom. i want to love. it appears that no one in this country is safe. these children, along with their mothers, were trying to escape the port city of mary a pole. they got out, but after passing through a rushing check point, they were hit by shelling at them we drove into fuzzy live, cat and russian soldiers started to shoot at us at a turning point. pretty risky, really lawyer than i saw. every one was covered in blood foreseeable of cruelty. europe hasn't seen anything like this since the 2nd world war. millions of lives
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turned upside down, creating a generation of traumatized children. of a more that's topic, let's branded other corresponding baba vessel. she joins me from strasburg, whether you parliament has been discussing the situation of ukrainian refugee children. barbara, what kind of help is that you planning for this particular group of refugees, children, european union and the parliament. of course they recognize that much more needs to be done very quickly. the commissioner for refugee question. if a johansson, as said that the 1st point is every child and, and young person who enters the you and might be unaccompanied, needs to be re registered. and they are trying now to set up a platform so that countries can exchange that registration because a like we just heard, people are traveling all out and young people and children, even
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a traveling all across europe. and there is nobody watching over them. and the predators is out there ill for johonson, also talked about some cases already in the c ania, for instance, where more than 40 children were supposed to be adopted by families. and now the police is investigating, or whether this extravagant gangs had been trying to get their hands on those children. so there is a long list of things that need to be done. registration. children need to be integrated into local school systems as quickly as possible. so that teachers can watch over them, social service need, services need to get involved. and of course when you look at this list, everybody also recognizes that as services across europe are already stretched, and they just have to do more. here it is a really urgent task. and they're scrambling to come up with solutions. a barbara, the you has also been debate a new sanctions that could be imposed on russian orland garza. tell us more about
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that. yes, there seems to be a consensus approaching at least within the european parliament. but that might be merit in european member states who will be deciding on further sanctions against russia on the back of the atrocities in butcher that have been reported from there against russia as so this is the 1st step, supposedly it towards an energy boycott. it means that oil and coal, it should be immediately boycotted, so that is what, that's what the e p p, the biggest a political group here. the conservatives in parliament say that accounts for about half of president putin's regular income daily from the energy imports from the exports from the european union. so that would be already a big step and gas is supposed to come as quickly as possible. of course parliamentarians hearsay, and even the greens are really pushing for stronger se sanction. say we have to
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take into account the, the situations of member states. there are a number of them, particularly germany, who cannot cut off gas immediately. but it should be done as fast as possible, but a 1st step seems to be in the offing a boycott against oil and coal. now senior e leaders will visit her. keith commissioner, president of the honda line, among others, is said to travel there. still this week, what is the purpose of this visit? the purpose, of course, is to show solidarity because the european union in a way, particularly at, during the last days when the, the reports about a possible war, crimes and atrocities where coming from a region so close to keith. for instance, the european union feels that they are a bystander. they are, they're sitting here and they're watching and having to watch things unfolding in
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ukraine. so these visits are, is sort of says, are trying to give a sign. they can't really explored weapons themselves. that for up to the member states to do that because they don't have any, but they giving all the money they can for instance, that is not a question. and it's that supposed to give a sign that we are with you, we're watching over you. we're trying to help as much as we can and not being in military forrest of the european union. that's the best really it can do at this point in time. our course on a barbara vessel reporting from straw spoke last. thank you very much, barbara. we're still waiting for the joint press conference a to start with the french or german and romanian foreign minister under moldova. no president or that is happening here in berlin in just a few moments for arch before that. let's bring in our political correspondent,
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emerald chicago, who joins me in the studio or m. o m, one of the expectations for this donor conference that is being hosted by germany here for more do more moldova. is it just money or is there money and support? i think mil dover has been under increased pressure dis moms her not only because it is a home to so many a refugee is it with regards to it's a population a better. so because it's, it's the one of the poorest countries on the european continent. so money or of course is the major concern and maybe if he so on a map or so where moldova is located, it is are right next to a war turn ukraine, it is right next to a romania as well. so it is a, you know, it is a door to the european union's which explains why so many people are coming. and a christina was mentioning earlier, 400000 refugees are now i'm now in and they need
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a support. the country needs support for dad. so there's that extra alone that has been announced by germany of 50000000 euros. that's roughly $55000000.00 that will come out. this is alone. it comes on top of a support package of $40000000.00 euros and it is to help the country cope with that situation without money. it will be also to develop social infrastructure to develop schools. kindergartens or accommodation in municipalities where refugees have a ravages overall in the country and it will also help her towards the integration of refugees and and not oh, very horton point of that conference is to help to support a moldova help it reduce its dependence on a russian energy, thomas, 100 percent dependence on russian gas. it's a talk about what else is a brilliant cam cam much an offer of them on does not talk about sanctions. and we
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heard barbara earlier that now those sanctions against russian oil and coal are being, discuss what you can tell us about bar where this her house, as i come in germany said it would support an embargo on russian coal if that is done or as their phase out was a phase out and to finance minister christian alina also said that germany was opened to a titan a further the sanctions against russia. so i think germany was criticized for refusing an embargo on a rush and gas because it's south germany itself is using importing 50 per cent of its garza from russia. that's the situation is very volatile. we've seen germany evolving away. we've never seen it's doing it before. for example, was weapons. it's against germany's usual policy to send a weapons, at least officially or to another country. and yet, over the past months we've seen germany pledging to send weapons to
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a ukraine. it has 4 formerly said it couldn't do without a rush and gas. and since the invasion, the russian invasion in ukraine, we've seen this position evolve as well as a robert harbor. the minister or economy are traveling to other countries or to strike deals to try and make or germany independent from a russian gas. and just yesterday, on monday we so germany putting gas poem germania under the control of regulator, c treated das troy. it falls sort of agreeing to an embargo on rush and gas, but it does try to become independent from russian gas. just formalisms might have just a joined us, were waiting for a joint press conference of the german, french and romanian, or foreign ministers, plus the moldova prime minister of president bush. he said, to start here in berlin. there was a don't a conference today hosted here by arnold in available for german foreign minister.
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we go live to that. as soon as it happens, you see life pictures of the venue here right now. and you mentioned are the, the measures that germany has taken. germany having been quite reluctant, especially when it comes to, to an embargo on russian gas. germany has been criticized pretty harshly onto the criticism. hasn't stopped or do you think that so deserved. um, i think germany is doing what are what is can to, to become independent from rash and gas. it has shown a willingness to, you know, i to, to gain this independence. but of course it's not going fast enough. if you, if you look at that situation on the ukraine from the ukrainian perspective, you also have to know that even if germany is importing 50 percent of its gas right

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