tv Postwar Album Deutsche Welle April 6, 2022 11:15am-12:01pm CEST
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still is rebecca. thank you very much. shar corresponded rebecca renters that in libby you are watching d w news up next week. got a documentary film for you, the children of sarajevo. i'm terry martin from me and all of us here at dw, thanks for watching. with take your time for an experiment about time, it can be measured precisely. and yet each person experiences it differently as if there are different forms of time time, a dimension and illusion. about time starts april 14th on d, w. i
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behind me because i feel via ashley's. i think a part of my stories interwoven with the war as i've experienced feel other than what eats and the seeing people dying and surviving. although gandhi lamented, okay, i wonder constantly seem to see, why are these people left without a presently, possibly without a future people to go much laid down by the crisis produced by the war? personally, a little, i need some answers. good. good, good. what those do the true oh you just gave from them. oh, so i
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have to phase urine in the dan said channels to some all i want to regard. i remember one of the firemen putting out the flames in the library, not bill house, turtle. i stood in the doorway to my house and saw this injured fineman coming out of the building with a shot of glass sticking out of his back. i was sent down to the basement to its former for was it so that's my very 1st memory of the wall global nissan and i knew almost nothing about the sorry you have a library back then i me let me it was just a beautiful building called little dawn on the
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of it's costly. yeah. cuz i only understood the significance of what the serbs had done when i got older. dr. rod, they burned more than 2500000 books. in the, on the canadian, i saved a book called teddy conical tank off his wallet, teddy's valor tuck windowsill. the neighbors told me off when they saw me entering the library and took me to my mother. but i refused to let go of that book and co mom i was told not to enter again because of the smoldering fire and the stinking about 3 the some of the you that ah, the few things with you booth. but it will tell you funny how good to work now. yes, everything is good now. okay. hello. hello. hi. very good. it's
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when nina, this is the boy who led me and my colleague francois mother around. sorry, it was library showing us a safe way around the building. just some days after the fire became he was living with his younger brother, an older sister, and his mother in the shack next to the library. still hill. he'd never been to school and missed out on many things, but he was a very intelligent care technology. later he met a woman who had 2 children and went on to have a 3rd with her. in that one he has a hard time talking up and he clearly suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. mother, he carries this burdens because the population of bosnia didn't receive any help after the war. no help at all. mm . oh.
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i did south of koya got the children to day who are the same age as i was back then are growing up in times of taste as i think they were full valued, the total they play football and other things for said outside of course my mom does when we were 10 or 11, we used to play war games. first month of child we'd run through the destroyed libraries will sometimes we've heard each other people yet don't really football was less important football maybe and 3rd or 4th glazed from yes, from god. well, they said they may be about over there to follow yet, which i mean down the war took many things away from ace card charge. i could have
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been a good footballer smuggler. some was did scuffle ballier be awesome. yeah, i had the talent, but nobody to support me after the war came to an end. can call me cause you more. need in nearly a small ward out. cortisone? mia? waffle vehicle. mom. he mom i'm at a salary but now that i have amen. i'm trying to give him everything. i couldn't have been out of a good time. okay. ah . when you charge us kids back then were old, talented petroleum and everyone was good at something time, but we never succeeded beyond about on a channel come niece was killed disco. neal bushes forgot,
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how were we supposed to? which could be we had to fight for survival clues will surviving the war was our biggest success conquest on the 0 percent. i told him i would choose with i stopped photographing the dead because i realized that the dead were the smallest problem in a raging waters. they're buried and then that's it. and what happens to the living? i feel i could have gone to the morgue to photograph the bodies of dead children on a daily basis. i chose to avoid it because after 4 years of this, you say, it's better to talk about the livings. ah
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ah. but hello, this picture that we have i think this is the 1st picture which i've yes, it's very interesting picture for me because you will see the un and you'll see the kids are playing in this archive outdoor interval. so i've kind of lost my friends and other people to share this picture and to talk to the people who lived in that
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part of sock i a boy. and i have so many comments and suggestions who can be that and the after that i received a couple information that the those goals are sisters, selma, and the element assistance. yeah. and i find them on facebook. conflict with them and the table joined to the our project. yeah. ah. design that alma compliance on like a teacher for asked a melissa i was 5 when the war began. my phone systems have off to finish my studies and to is them today. i work in various hotels answering,
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it'll tell them, will thought i will. hello should a says she, a political situation is very difficult either with them in my phone on mine covers that there are a few opportunities for young people. has them log charlie a call with the sellers tardy? my little girl, my youngest sister zelma recently completed a teaching degree for quoted god that she always wanted to be a teacher. fell of an image is applied for jobs everywhere but can't find one. cochrane hammered football. that's why she looks after my daughter on the advent. ah ah, oh, the that is my uncle bodies until i'm miles important, says xyz that's molars. very close need family walk when we talk daily and meet
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a few times a week or so, even if it's just for coffee and a short chandler beds and they could someone knock with molecules to poppy and we'll call for the semi demon approach us comma, but then what are the nitrogen so when it comes to the war, we usually just make, jo, they not to that in a don't think our parents want to hold seriously about it. auto thought. we remember some funny anecdotes from the time in both talk wings that make us laugh to day am at it's, i got the got to their son or those that's national is off it, but here low count, fine book soccer conceal over here. maybe look this with most of the genius not to say le mars. i'm excited and curious. mostly curious. you probably not to daniel. i'm looking forward to meeting this person who was so interested in his back then when we weren't even interested enough. so ali had any found seventies with danny and bill, a mom which as a full program stuffy, it was impossible to take peaches then. that would that i don't have any from that
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period of my life sleep call. i think the photo of asco cook is the only one we have from the time of the world. oh, good afternoon, bitter the queer, me mom. ah, my mom, i know shibel a shock. my mother was the most surprised to see it because she demanded explanations from us even after all these years are like when was despite i taken that, how could someone fo scratchy, all alone in the strain mccormick who was looking after, you know, and i, we told her, we'd escape from plenty to go out and play lavonne on. i'm was speechless and i could see the same angry look in her eyes that she used to have when we were being ne, killer malec of nurse florida. lush. mm
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hm. and it was for the going here was this man who photographed the war in sarajevo . he's the one who took pictures of children playing and history even will this photo was taken here in a 100 from valley. listen, i can't tell you anything about this one and none of those faces ring a bell. he said, i don't see very well any more, to be honest. you are, you more detailed? it may be some one else is still living here. who was around that age at the time, you might remember something to the morning. i should check with amier, who lives over there and where exactly over there was put in the owner of the pizzeria downstairs has lived here more than 30 years. he stayed, he throughout the war. italy ask if they lived here during the war with his picture was taken next door. how had he can recognize some law value marked with he news or something of interest equal
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level here with his i am a music tina who's in this picture. nice. i'm not. i'm not in the picture. that's for sure. but oh i think that's yes me no patio i have his number. oh those are the windows of my house. all went down. i didn't have your house. but when you moved i'll give him a call from. ah ah. and do this. i'm skinny. yeah. you leave with this like this part of the new under city? yes. been it was my neighbor. okay. same floor like in the central deval in the
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budget with oh no, not all of your on your own she this guy went to croatia, rica clear. no 8 years ago, although i'm with this one here is amara a drones in san diego ranch, me an english like oz. he didn't leave me. oh, you see the smile of, of all this is amazing. i, this is amazing for me. it was like, i smell the tv or hungry, i don't know, but let's, and with what will happen in all the regional any. how many a to a bill took out to children are boy, you know, boy, it was the best. what are one of the best times of my life? would she but i look fellow sounds paradoxical. what it was was mayor, but
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a grip. oh no. we started dedicating yourself to sports back, then went back, puts the basketball teams. but of course, sure who you're right, so our generation wanted to play basketball. that's not many wanted to play football. we had a lot of fun was even though we followed the embedded game slash foot 8 or updates was commentating. in general, bob bernard start ga, ga, ga, pippen, chicago, or new york, nikki iceland o. houston rockets ro, kids that we were hoping to play professionally. not that somewhat one, at least in your god will rule school was lead. the last my full name is dami, abdul can be cove is coach. i was 15 when the war began at nashville. i became a pro basketball player after the war. boy. both spoke with postop of shannon. i played for the national team of bosnia and herzegovina and captain, the bosnia, sarajevo club was a knuckle now though she then i played for 2 foreign clubs,
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vienna's ton is under coincidence, and only grudge cock which the mil to le mosher with him being voted elijah gotcha disc. suddenly that is until i suffered a back injury to the order the herniated dish caused by bad living conditions and poor nutrition during the walk was not to la. for that same reason, most bosnian athletes of my generation had their careers cut shorts to go to nicholas would log his mind ended suddenly at $24.00 or $25.00 at the peak of my career and allied, the wooden blocked it mountains. mm hm . so do i remember how he played cards here? oh, how could i forget? i remember everything. leave me looking for almost everything. looked good when
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will you lost here with a pin in september. i think a lot of them i don't come here often. um, sometimes i look at the courtyard from above. my mom planted this a get really nostalgic. me too. mm hm. mm. it brings back memories. ah, nicole which shoots the bowl game with a black, not a 3 pointer, a free to a okay. is a lot of a mass ended all the place in the may 92 for one night approximately dozens. dozens of grenades fell here. it was like lic apocalypse in law apocalyptic you know, and the, the, the, the find out that all windows are broken, then if you were you stay in the,
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in the yes mind. and they asked man and i, and that we burned down. we do our parents in the basement basement was a practically, there isn't that window. the basement thing. and i remember every time that grenades of fell down with their local, very scared to cut the, put your, the charge from cards. you probably put the search the when it's all began or it was the 1st time we had to face such a situation to be lost, cra, orchestra was awful. start from your own. oh, but i wasn't afraid, maria, to really felt like i was in a movie with her. i didn't think my life was in danger. you okay, and i saw it differently on context grows and i thought i'll survive this repository alone was such a huge to the worst part about it with the filter conditions we had to live and she will still get the everything got so dirty because the shells made the dust fall from the ceiling to the pressure missouri we were filthy and it was cold taurus
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fabulous. well maybe it wasn't that cold on the humidity on the shelf and all that was the worst home or no, boy, god, i felt miserable and stripped of any dignity calculus or social to that. so my fell truck made those 3 are total. when it was down and that basement he'll resume is if i had no dignity some so soon as to the 1000 a problem with it wasn't so pleasant to see older people. oh, good that the couldn't find any answer solution and, and usually when you, when you are, can you watch into the, all your parents, your old old old people all day will erect and that they were lost as scarce? ah,
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what shall be dialing because that i ever was the host of the 1984 winter olympics would didn't do was a multi ethnic, multi cultural city community with different cultures and religions, coexisting harmoniously in money that he almost then it became the city where the myth of coexistence was shattered from fioma, where the bridges that had been built were destroyed, and when the last one 1st they were cracked it, and then later he destroyed the hell. knows israel ah good. tell god when did the warrant that says am officially in 1996 is still there. this is shifting back then there was no telephone or anything bill until ok. so he played games in the street. us will say football,
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football game optima. i do watch in a kid we used to play by the library and when foreign travelers would ask you, what can i bring you from my country to minute? my answer was always the same family. a football is for as in the elliot clumped roger, that's why i had the best footballs after the war. i bundio up to you can't imagine how hard it was to get a hold of a football shock. with this could be a little up to number. we also played with marbles by sunday galle kid on the omega is, cliff was only one. we knew a soldier during the war. elecom for lack of meal. yes, broncho bratcher was in the war. we also saw the broucher poo you. they were all soldiers in charge. she jojo dollar, they were protecting us from the attacker that to have guns. yes. undo. how did you survive when you fell from the 4th floor of the library synthetics? i didn't fall from the 4th floor, but from the 2nd 3. sure. you know how the stairs got broken and really my komatt. so some steps were missing here, my ocr, i slipped and fell to the ground through one of those gaps. he thought they had to
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bandage me all off from you. i was a total mess with a broken arm and leg. tell me some more stories that i could only come of literature. what is, are tosto? i don't usually talk to armor about the war because there are certain things. i don't think he needs to know at his age. he lost also. there's a lot, i haven't told him about my childhood breach because i just don't think he's ready to miss yolanda. does not all swing on the mom. yar some jasa mom at of him gotten emma, when i was amens age now she says i was already a man. so some videos for all the things i saw and lived through hers taught them. it's like i was already 20 years old, then not 9 or 11. the time will come when amin grows up. and i'll tell him about everything that happened here in gluck, there's no snow now. do you like it better with or without snow?
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without having to show our wait and see how nice and green everything will be in summer actually gone. the library was nice it before and they say it was rebuilt exactly as it was, but i think it was nice of before on course. i mean, you know, with shania we have photos of the old library at my school. mm
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mm mm mm mm mm huh. seattle, he mash minutes a tiny or near to deal coupon to his i'm a t. i don't believe he's breath. i buried him anyway. it's just the resting place of his body was him on his own, as within me, his family and everyone who loved him. e possibly is your what a mallet amar is gone. these to every time i visit is great. if i say, let's have a smoke and let me smoke together. one cigarette for ama one for me. yes ma'am. we hadn't said ah,
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my name is a shaft a. my name's alisha busha. she got the not, i was almost 7 when the war began. some somebody was emma missouri, slaves, how sort of the c a g o z lamara mac knuckle. my mother came screaming out of our bill. that union picked me up from school hoodie. she seen that on the way home. she tried and set some small. this is gone. the war has begun. villamore that's not relaxing. i remember as my father at the door with a gun in his belt. he is a possum. he volunteered for the front and we didn't see him for a long time. and had to go to the for at least 3 or 4 months. it's as if i lived in the changing tree in the neighborhood then each from that's where i still live. miss mckee, knoxville is curing the boy we lived in hiding in this,
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but every now and then we went out to play in front of the building. mcallister house today. i'll let him out. i had an old car and some bikes. repent, wheels is clean. we couldn't even ride the mutiny a similar to was the rule we basically played without toys hid it. we simply had nothing. i had of stuff from him. i'll publish time put oh, that was his 1st time. have osteo came off to the wars lee took. he brought me a whole album and i saw these pictures and 1st title album magic that was like come then the tears came over to me. my mother insisted to move um it is that some black . it was so strange to see these photos and cackle. they stood up a lot of emotions and nazi
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taught us was a, that much more, as i said, you could almost say that we were born together. and i study, and i was a year older than amar, and on darma was the youngest. as long as our mom was alive, sylvia g, we were all connected for bailey lecoq. he was the one who held us together. kiwis mentioned her now that he's not here. everything's different, her credit, gallium, i wish any, any east no, such as what must say. it was sad able poured on film. so christie la la maria basil will be. i'm not a mystery. jacqueline america feature or trio. so saturday school nasa, jo jenkins, viola, i'm artemis logistically at on encino che, got out swanny colleague, a corner body. ultimately peach and posterior teeth void from the chuckling, which contains a question, well yeah, but i mean, what poverty doc premises managed him for that? see my as many steps, donald rush, the postal back on thought i thought i a boy into then sees as rallied by the said regardless nazi her. ah, eva is said, i have always with bobby smith that though. gotcha, april, it's after i got an yema.
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i'm out of west islip from the i'm. i'm not sure which went to the style. nathan caddy. one would almost death changed many things in my life. a part of me died that day. so happiness that shakes a person when i was of the sadness drama of that life or not, then that's what makes you the person you all ah mm ah ah, cut that out for chow mom and i don't announce total of that with them. and it's his cassettes as my mother kept on looking at the nurse when the wool began,
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just doing many more hours than before. it's harko presto, that hooted my father stopped looking at the taxi driver and join to bosnia and herzegovina. nami had forgotten her father. ah ah ah ah, my name was name below that means i jim went out for us. the most important thing was to be outside to cock. we didn't understand that it was dangerous to be in the straits yet. so if we saw from the window that another kate had gone out, the stores would also try to go out straight away. i'll be the settings. mm. oh, no, said thompson, bosco's advice is that our little goes to some place, even less of it thought. australia no guardia turquoise. i don't feel like a will victim of it because i survived to get to thoughtfully. molly,
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the other children had it much worse. e or but i know many became disabled orphans or both cornell's jobs. so that didn't happen to me. so i didn't feel like a victim quite mad. you know more particulars a will probably affected me psychologically. villa dog. but i think somehow it made me stronger me and told me that some things just happen or tall or you know, and you have to deal with them if you want to survive whatever the simplicity of it was. his do feel like a victim of the war for because if it hadn't been for the war bill, everything would have been very different. it's ah, no semester penal potter just to put sheet out to my name's yes, me in la guardia. i was 12 when the war broke out that i had started university in 1999 for a quarter for some food. so tough fulton cameras to know i wanted to 30 criminology,
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so i thought i could fight against the crime that was most common during the time of the war. and still is. the fact is, the political corruption occurred, that was my plan to go full and she came home to me. we are a current car, and i wanted to fight against this injustice for voting bluetooth. it's a major injustice to emerge in some ways. i think it's even worse than the war itself. director. ah, none that i'm all of them since the monks now i know that i can't change anything. and i don't feel that obligation anymore. i realized that i can't. i tried books, but they didn't let me loans from dall. sounds from us. they didn't give me a chance to make an impact on monday. the i'm missing then on that this point and i think it's simply impossible. suddenly on or nothing, i stopped following politics and i feel better because of it. so suddenly she and i
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try to enjoy culture instead, include awed couldn't on to last a swore she she, i don't know. i think everybody lost her room was the people who died, the injured on there was material and economic damage rooms. good. there were so many difference losses. so glue that the people lost were the military and the politicians. so do they didn't lose, not of didn't, they would profit again, if there were another warrant, kaji was currently the blue. scuse on a new shingle vouch war. they would win again. phone bill pit a little personal i
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ah, it's inside the brochure. the, as soon as i 1st saw that photo, i haven't only been thinking about that time, but about my life in general and i can fill that out too much. is that that is it's been good to reminisce even though it has been painful, don't i? when it also was was a, was you all set 0? some yet could be a bully drug. i can't stop yawning. what time did you wake up? i didn't get much sleep all when he was in school. neither may be because of this meeting, phil. i don't know. maybe my subconscious kept me off coleman alone. i'm a thought on. this hasn't happened to me for a long time, for quanto funder. and you know, i've been thinking about why adrienne didn't want to come close for. i think it's
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because he experienced everything in a very different way. uh huh. because his croatian world, people treated him badly. cough on 5 really? yeah. even after the world did he talk about is like, i mean, oh no, never cause that's why i'm telling you read me because we would have protected him or some noticed that it was a very difficult time for all of those who fled to sarajevo. but also for the locals who weren't muslims, literally only broke, they stayed because they felt bosnian. i think this is the group of people that we ignored. and it was exactly this idea that destroyed bosnia course on. okay, digital, if we were smarter, we would build the biggest monument to those non muslims who died. defending bosnia spoken. elizabeth. they're the best example of what the idea of bosnia was. i
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should do what sheila to such as of the seas. me was attacked, she is te, customers, iraq, to prove it was always cool. but it all starts in 1996 or 97. the me only went back to school after the whole getty, when we came to class on the 1st day, they asked for a full names. i p, she moved i, they wrote my name down and asked or caught your religion of beard. and i said, what do you mean? what's my religion if you need that today, august 30, i was told yes. so you have to add that on the list with 30, but how can i choose a religion that you minister, that my mom's an orthodox bosnian and my dad's a muslim,
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what am i supposed to answer without offending my parents are going to be. i'd rather not write anything. after that they told me you can't leave it blank either . so i said to her job my teacher and it said screw it right, muslim this year either and next year, serbian who was here today. i see myself as an agnostic. i feel bosnian and proud to belong to the group of others in bosnia and herzegovina hush, the stitches the postwar period has laughed at 25 years because the nap, as many things should have been resolved by novela. so start date, an agreement did in the walk or they put it in a way. it also put everyone in bosnia and herzegovina in china. and no one can change anything in the midst of your cover 3 manama. if one ethnic group tries to change something in the style and another immediately invoked its nationalist interest in that keep attacking each other clearly and then claim there defending us against the others. italian a tim allen 3 is but in reality the quin according to the politicians,
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are still stealing countless millions and destroying the country from within the crowd as she they lie to us cheat amuse us. then when i flush from what is left for us, could i mean nothing. i'm what do we have to day? but absolutely nothing. well wished book while amish. oh oh ah oh oh, are you with a no more? what is the, what is it a good to give them? so he mother. oh, anyway, a only live
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. okay. nobody can. is this why just the past way. so have on the bulk of it. why does it happen that when the past appears, it interrupts and destroys everything? why do all these children we have seen suffering have to pay for the mistakes of their parents, grandparents and great grandparents? are we human such savages that we are incapable of living without violence? me?
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