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backed separatists good seized control, using russian weapons from 2014 to 2021. fighting claim, the lives of over $14000.00 people there. infrastructure and livelihoods were destroyed, ah, for a bloody conflict. further escalated by the russians. in april 2021, ukraine's president followed him. u zalinski looked to the west for support. germany and france sought to mediate eastern european countries, were alarmed. the
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e u was divided. some favored diplomacy, others argued, russian president vladimir putin had little interest in talking with escape of that royal peace at the european or e level. there's still really no well thought out strategy on how to deal with russia, human myth, osland own gate. you and the gun union, some feared that puddings go on ukraine, was to reassert russian power by undermining western unity. mooney, go vladimir, christine, or vladimir putin. it's all geopolitics and geo economics. is you, he has no respect for anyone to his people, bison, ukraine, once part of the soviet union was vulnerable to proteins, re venture st ambitions. he missed them at question. as president put, we must assume that president hutton won't keep his word and me won't play by the rules. and will be elaine, it's actually military force give i dances. it's not
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a boom genie to remember that putin once said wouldn't. if a fight is inevitable drug, you must do strike 1st, eat not the pew at something to keep in mind, blew back, then it was clear that russia's actions could have global implications. russia's behavior towards ukraine had already triggered a new cold war, and europe seemed powerless to stop it. in this film, we talked to international experts, people on the street and ukraine's president in a country on the brink of war. to build it. yet it was i, st. georgia board, the you my think it will, it could possibly be it to world war 32, and then europe, our neighbors in the countries of the european union. they will all suffer as a result direct when the cheapest,
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as that the 30 years after declaring independence from the soviet union, ukraine was trapped in a conflict with pigeons, russia, he wanted the war to end and accused moscow, o fomenting on rest in ukrainian sovereign territory they are actually leading the fighting in ukraine, but nonetheless, it's hard to get to a point where you are talking about constructive actions to end the conflict if russia is, in fact, denying that it's doing in european heavyweights, germany and france stood by ukraine to appoint lou the, i'm going to shift my some people want to do business with russia. that group is very strong politically in germany. the dodge and the german committee on eastern european economic relations is extremely active, is comp nights as 5 to the se in to is skipped. invite anti and in addition,
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large parts of the german population feel a great resonance with gun and closeness to russia wouldn't. more so than to the usa nea till wasn't once fuck stark eyes to it. it was odd that a mere pigeon wanted to reassert brushes status as a global superpower, and appeared, determined to expand russia's sphere of influence. e fled, say russia swallows ukraine. it makes it that different russia. and this is, this is the russian calculus. it needs to control covertly, overtly ukraine in order to expose and project also european implant. then, in the spring of 2021 russian military maneuvers on the border with ukraine breezed concerns. was putin planning in attack?
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ah ah, our cave in the east of ukraine lies just 40 kilometers from the russian border. people here feared their city would be in the line of fire. could have, shall slip away when i heard it yesterday, i felt pretty scared. is maria, apparently they've installed missiles that can travel 270 kilometers. and from belgrade to her, keith is what? 45, yes. and if we get hit, then that's it. that's the end. so the can, yes, no stress, it's very scary that this could reach us any way that we could be forced to leave it, move away and all that. because nobody knows what will happen acts, especially as rosa following independence.
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some ukrainians have leaned towards western europe. others towards russia, a division that could still be seen and far keith, when we filmed there, sometimes with russia, including family ties, remained strong at the time. is need to got music. how can russia or enemy when they are people that he's our own people? we have the same mentality, we have the same roots, we have today history. yes, you do still used you. but as long as there you go to in my there will be no war or hostility. everything will be fine, as long as it meets russia. and that's not just my opinion, but the opinion of my friends to put in plain russian military action along the border, was a response to provocations by nato. he issued a warning to oregon. is that the little bit but of i
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guess there was a shoe pityingly wing tedious unless he bizarre personally it was really it as a d and the gag. double nosy, me, i'd sure. usually when i do is, when you come or anybody, you're the gold, pretty dear with machine you're, i see it that was away and we'll cross moocher to arcadia and i will just credit yet them with him up. but he let custom concrete plushie. sammy ukraine's president followed amused lensky addressed, put in directly with an offer to discuss the conflict. because by gil approach yaga, to fight ye shall dash it lead, lead vamps theresa. very white, twitching grains caught them, but g, atlanta slept all green, putting declined zalinski z invitation. he said zalinski should discuss the conflict with the separatists in eastern ukraine. not moscow,
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or denial of russia's involvement in the war. now put in was openly demonstrating russia's military might write on ukraine's porter. my porch was shit, we're close to we're neighbors. and as he stood it, this is angie o graphy, our history and life. so i can probably tell why this is happening, cousin badge, the 1st of all it was to test the strength of the new administration of the president of the united states. and to see his reaction on that again, e o, but you the, your order in mid april u. s. president joe biden reached out to his russian counterpart and invited him to a summit. biden wanted to talk face to face, to dial down the bellicose rhetoric. pigeons, military demonstration had gotten by his attention.
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i think vladimir couldn't does deserve credit for being one of the most strategic minded and patient. ah, leaders in europe right now. he knows what he wants to do. he's patient about it. he does it. and he exploits weaknesses, exploits division, exploits opportunities as their eyes. poaching announced the end of military maneuvers and the withdrawal of troops. the immediate danger had been averted, but ukrainian forces remained on alert. observers reported russian military hardware stayed in place in cave tensions ran high. who, who are sia? rosa is an aggressor and it must be slighted everywhere from every microphone.
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every one should know that he was not the figures. daniel, where there's this feeling like the world is ruled by teenagers, is the whole whose bodies are surging with hormones. even when you're not around you, it's such a nightmare. keith, go for a lot of volota musa lensky was no ordinary president. prior to his election, he spent years planes, a ukrainian president on t v. in the late 19 ninety's, the russian speaking zalinski studied law in his home city of creevy and central ukraine. genevieve start the advocates on him that he is booty does. he said i didn't dream of becoming a lawyer or a serious prosecutor. what do you know? i didn't want all that and i wanted to be a student. so back then we set up a small theater. he knew more of a comedy theater, a small comedy, theatre coleman, d. c at taylor. and the key common genie and adaptive
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zelinski left law behind when he graduated from college and made comedy his profession by 2014. he was working on a new tv series servant of the people in the satirical comedy, zalinski play the history teacher who's unexpectedly elected president. after promising to tackle corruption, for just with the series made its debut in 2015 and was a huge hit something with oh was it isn't good. him said that was his thought. nazena luca, i forgot uncle issue. he shows it showed 20 mr. garcia, fish, and that was similar, fiona, and there are billions of you know, to michelle. ukrainians laughed in recognition as the show lampooned, the countries corrupt politics, where oligarchs walking law and money talks about them with right, it's more,
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the website is younger. all that, but rama is the big them that you really asking them. yeah, i, you, michelle. somehow my hands on it up on the mouse. good luck. i talks that the series debuted at just the right time, a year before ukraine's then president victor yanna coach had been forced from office and the full extent of his wealth and embezzlement, exposed. while i'm assisting chest the similes, hosty jessica. yet? oh gosh! this happened ill. they stopped that the estate yonder covert get billed for the official residence. oh sir lensky is fictional president. oh, what do you put up a muscle watson? yes. just a big wooden house and it's weird and bizarre, but it's not surprising in terms of a how luggage it is and how expensive it is. because, well, i think everybody pretty much knew was i mean, how,
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how much money is being stolen and how, and how much money is being stolen and how, how it is use. the real life story that led to yanna coach's departure is dramatic . it marked as see changing ukraine's identity as well as in its relationship with putins, russia, from one of relative harmony to hostility. in november 2013, president general colvin refused to sign a trade agreement with the e. u. huh? yeah, you more reasonable e, it's critical skill though i told him directly and openly way aerobic victor federal which you are making a big mistake. we should order who could a uni. oh no, he replied that the ukrainian government, you mean after analyzing the pros and cons of such a course,
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we had come to the conclusion that it was premature for us, great premature for ukraine, but just to take an active step towards europe, the riley goof no you little and that we should remain in the orbit of the soviet. there's the not soviet but russian system are done to for ye with in keith through western ukrainians poured on to the streets and protest. lee demanded jenna coverage. either sign the agreement with the you or leave office you can, you know, if we look at the people who went to these protests in ukraine in 2014 these and put these people were no longer divided between east and west. which by though the
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majority of them came up worse from the very nationally oriented west opportunities, or let's not say the majority and he had a large proportion. me i'd, i'd close on time. instead, young coverage turned to moscow for aid. tensions were high demonstrations continued in february 2014 ukrainian security forces attacked protesters gathered on the my done or independence square in central keith. oh, in total, more than $100.00 people were killed. ukraine's parliament voted to impeach the president general coverage for the country. his destination, russia dead yet in vladimir
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putin, you had not anticipated the scenario at all. you did to p was convinced that he could keep young coverage and power engine kavitsky and regularly told ya, no coverage that he needed to crack down harder. a confederate had commit proof optimal. ah, but not all ukrainian supported the protest. mm. exploding pro russian sentiment in the east. in march 2014 poaching illegally annexed crimea, while maintaining it was a secession. the annexation of the strategic lexia peninsula quickly followed sundays, hastily called referendum, in which its residence overwhelmingly backed breaking from ukraine. and joining russia was led soon crimea was annexed. we've, we're so happy we thought we could be annexed to me. my friends,
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every one we kept thinking that russia was going to take us back to get a good many in ukraine, feared exactly that. that coaching would go even further. who knew what they could do. the same thing that they did with crimea will objectively they have enough resources for that, that the western alliance, meanwhile, was stymied. a lot, newsome clean those in c h s. u. and there we found ourselves in a completely new situation. schiff, dooley, ha, who, where the russian head of state had basically made choices for the great country of ukraine. and try to keep its precedent in place at any price. can you kind e at the county? allen lan immediately proceeded not only to annex crimea,
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but to absorb the whole province, have crimea, or city as well as the city, as the last to point to me, which has a special status. ah, laptops you and to make them both subjects of the russian federation see de la villette. does he best the boy care that to be seen? a doll fair do sushi de larry dash shortly in response to crimea annexation members of the g 7, imposed harsh sanctions against putting and russia manhattan guns under ignition them. it is ation that us to this lily. the russians hadn't expected the west to react, so united lee and decisively for clayton in russia, there were leading representatives often asked me why you of all people that you should understand that we feel humiliated images, not them. you yourselves were humiliated after world war one lies, but that's not a good historical comparison garden. the comparison is precisely
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a country with such a difficult history as germany must stand up resolutely for the law to be upheld. that's why the message that had to be sent was a red line has been reached. i know he had a nino. oh, in april 2014 tensions rose again, fighting broke out between russian back separatists and, and government forces in the industrial and to large the russian speaking don best region in eastern ukraine. m to jean was accused of feeling the unrest or a civil but of each the more sure to say that i was very surprised. it would be an exaggeration humor, food she for gyla. it fill boys his because i knew one thing from talking to
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yeltsin or she's listening to potent. yes no. and speaking with many russian official, me was simo. oh really? they kept saying for you all the repeating to me that will, for of ukraine has been, will, is, and will be part of russia's strategic interests. systemic threat. they each sneak into 2 of those, much of this means that russia would never agree to ukraine. taking a western position where you know, virginia law for choosing to follow a civilized western democratic course. soon it is all, no, zaki law democrat, the general professor ah, the conflict escalated quickly within the 1st few months, hundreds of ukrainian service men and volunteers were killed. there's evidence,
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rush and weaponry. had been supplied to the separatists, and some russian soldiers were fighting alongside the rebels. lou august 29th. so close to $400.00 fatalities. the highest number on any single day up to that point. this man's 26 year old brother jimmy throat was among those killed to sit for me. he was everything sweet. why? we were a family of to me and him too. and now i'm alone. here. i miss him. it was a my heart bleeds because he's gone. he's gone. what were you will he's gone?
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who are you overweight? an exodus as people said, don bass maniachi me of i am very angry. yes, it pains me a lot. i come from there also like my city has half destroyed also my kids got really one there it is in ruin. the school i went to for 9 years is half destroyed . it's glen up the whole block where i grew up. i mean, like houses shot through destroyed a them all, and this is my gift card where there wasn't that much fighting, isn't like you've got to just be a little boy with hasty. the impact of the conflict was felt far beyond ukraine's borders. in july 2014 passenger fight m h 17 on route from amsterdam to kuala lumpur was shot down over separatist held don
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bus lou, all 298 people on board died evidence emerge that the plane was hit by a book surface to air missile belonging to a russian anti aircraft missile brigade. suddenly the conflict was making international headlines. russia was waging a covert war on european soil and killing e citizens. ah, in 2 months earlier before the war escalated oligarch and former government minister, petro porsche jenko had been elected president of ukraine on a pro european anti corruption ticket. he pledged to return crimea to ukraine and,
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and the war and don bass. oh, france and germany initiated talks between ukraine and russia. in february 2015 and bella rose, the party signed the minster to agreement in san to re establish ukraine's control over its border with russia. but only after elections had been held in the disputed territories. it also required a change to the ukrainian constitution that would grant special status to occupied don boss. the agreement didn't name russia as a party to the war, despite evidence to the contrary. until the ship president, along in his memoirs, french president, francois alone described how putin raised his voice in the negotiations and threatened the ukrainian president order saying would destroy the ukrainian forces classes, oscar. and that's the best evidence that russia was very active there. and these
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protocols, as they also called, were assigned literally under the gunshot, because russians are ill. they, verbally threatened, ah, military operation in the by civil are which they actually than executed in quickly protected. but in retrospect, politically speaking, things should have looked a lot different as in russia should have been portrayed as the warring party and ukraine should have been allowed to make demands. among other things under huffman, when confronting putin pushing go, looked weak and dis, peace efforts failed. minsk too was never fully implemented. polishing coast reforms were also called into question or assessment. that is, that he a did the things that he had to do, that for the results of joint pressure from the civil society and from the international community. i don't think it was ever serious about um,
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really making a change in the system and, and enacting the data corruption infrastructure. so that becomes a threat to him, and he's always, that's, that's a thing as 20 to true to a close ukraine's next presidential race began petro poor, a franco saud reelection. ah, what is main challenger was a political outsider, followed him here. so lensky could become famous for playing the president on tv. on the 21st of april, 2019 zelinski was elected with an outright majority. he won over 73 percent of the vote compared to parish ankles. 24 percent
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unions key. that only 10 am gleick zalinski was never a politician. and he still not one a security press, but it worked because he was strongly supported by several very powerful oligarchy in the media. your finances are, they financed his campaign, cafe, and devoted media attention to the lensky is an anti parish ankle candidacy. does it in sky, ah, in a seeming paradox, zalinski was elected. you largely, thanks to the oligarchs backing. yet his ordinary man, anti corruption persona, one over the voters. i voted for zalinski. here we no longer wanted porous jenko. we didn't want what he had. yeah. as though i was expecting to see in
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zalinski a liberal even if he lacked conviction. julia, a man for whom people's rights and freedoms mean something for those that have 0 violent that arises. ah, ne, moscow appeared ill prepared for this foot in the service scheduler. oh, tennis a soviet man after all. so as the rest of the russian leadership a day to and for these people are free and open elections are in general. more than a little suspect. bish wooded. you've gone when. who in his inaugural address, president zalinski said his 1st priority was to bring peace to don bass and, and the war with russia. he travelled 1st to brussels,
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now playing the statesman in real life their strategic course of you green to achieve full fledged membership in the e. u, and need to which is secure in there because deducing over the ukraine remains unchanging. nato was faced with a dilemma. if it granted ukraine membership be alliance could find itself at war with russia. let me get to the new englanders, to our engagement with that alliance. they ongoing arm ross and aggression remains a major challenge for you are on landing senior mm
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to p it discuss to see this dual credit. now imagine ukraine becoming a nato member, get the most good, which is what they're striving for. so not the plea, that would mean nato is suddenly on rushes at southwest border if the work done them food chain. this way, just to prove what happened with crimea, is a defensive reaction from russia that i, me, and a kind of warning gog we're look we russia will not tolerate ukraine becoming a member of nato. dana, stella, jim, not mean back from brussels. zalinski reached out to vladimir putin on facebook, educating her childrens opinion, bases, give you dancing. why do you middle portion? not the bacardi. nanda dice? absolutely. chicken. a couple of them yet, the done life ah, in late july
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a ceasefire was agreed to along with an exchange of prisoners zalinski his presidency. got off to a promising start. ah ah, ah. we have to begin all the steps. bob, legally, all the steps in means rolls us in there monday. i hope that i have i, i just look forward to see about it. all. a journalist we, i hope will have they me are, is meeting in norman before martin and they'll speak about it. and we'll speak all the steps. you're in the not the future i during the near future. we have to do all this stuff to finish this horrible war.
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ah, but zalinski soon saw that russia was holding fast to don bass. ah, well, we have little information about what is going on in the occupied thoughts of dun boss, but what we know is that there is quite substantial, brainwashing that is going on there. all. ah, myriad of images was the posters, sir? referring to the 2nd world war, showing their low col, kind of leaders was children and saying how they are defending this territory from, you know, vicious ukrainian regime. russia was also handing out lots of passports and on bus zation of blackout. she's pay for the rats here. ah, nest, it's a common practice of the russian federation to force people in occupied territories
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to take russian transports or, or to change the ethnic composition of the population missional before and the colonized such enclaves with new russians. i, her admission is club marcella, m colon use of our residents of the occupied lu hunt's can donetta regions. young were often simply forced to obtain russian passport as if for a born interesting washington, the nation yankee. just believe without them, they wouldn't be able to live normal lives in the territory. so when they and them all in all my receive state services or confirm their identity and so on. i think that is an awful here, or even if it, which is sir it in the future swears over it like that. the signals coming from germany and france were hard to read. after 2015 and the failure to implement the minsk agreements. the warn ukraine seemed to have largely been forgotten. in 2019 berlin in power,
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successfully lobbied for asia to be reinstated in the council of europe. it had been expelled in 2014. following the annexation of crimea. ukraine's representatives were furious. you my dear friends who will vote for these will make your place will find your place in the history because you will give us the ability to rush it to go further. that was warrant judge no, no sanctions in council of europe. there was the war in georgia, no spaces are gone. so europe finally, aggression against your brain sanctions 5 years and, oh, sorry, we are coming back. then in august french, president, a manuel micron unexpectedly announced his own russia reset policy. lynn, i have to laugh house and do key france has long dreamed of being the power that
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maintains the balance in europe between east and west on the hook uplifted with. so let's just say in addition to other economic and politically important decisions being made by the new french president in the context of french politics, e for my call. so hutton was an important pond on the chessboard, cafe louisville play. you know, my cool paulia. pretend it didn't show up. bottle sulu alicia ah, but eastern european nations expressed concern your casualties thought look at it to some ways thrash you a booth shook sadly at school. it is formerly, it seems to me that the fears of the former soviet republics, especially the baltic states,
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are quite understandable with them because the memory of how they were incorporated into the u. s. s. r is still very much alive in li slovak, as the theory occurring, the doubles of, of course. the events and eastern ukraine stoked these fears. yeah, usually it's a striking show causality soon as orderly. me got those, the likely annexation of crimea, the actions and done bass and so on. certainly fed the spheres side and so that they became stronger. it is that i hear me. i think the really dying is than i really sitting in blue, france and germany with question marks. but in the past, ukraine had always been able to look to the united states for support. been september 2019 christalin soleski made his 1st official trip to the us to give his inaugural speech at the united nations in new york. thank you very much.
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i was just mislead you. them res. vomiting zivare more visit near my year to enjoy the me. miss dawn last night, most of which. why does it have miss betsy? glean davy? not greatly did he not you wrong, but his visit was overshadowed by the scandal engulfing venue as president donald trump, in which he played a big part. it hinged on a phone call between the 2 men, 2 months before in july 2019 or in the called trump asked ukraine to investigate his democratic rival, joe biden, and his son hunter. if ukraine refused us 8 would be withheld. i wanna know what 12 well. so when president donald trump froze $400000000.00 in u. s. military aid to ukraine to allegedly pressure the country's leader for
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personal political favor, ukrainians got nervous. dia, i'm fun from far one and the call from trump was outrageous. it outrageous was his via nationwide in his tisha, and it wasn't just a nasty call. none behind it was a real and extremely dangerous threat to ukraine. but if you, namely, if i remember correctly, that $400000000.00 wouldn't be released from military equipment which ukraine desperately needed. mm hm. and billy taylor shawls was, don't, did you okay in a little english pot? oh, after that phone call in july, zalinski was pressured by members of trump's inner circle to make a public statement that ukraine would investigate the biden's. in september, the press began reporting on trump's demand for an investigation. in exchange for aid. under mounting pressure, trump released
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a rough transcript of his call with zalinski by then, democrats in congress had launched a formal impeachment inquiry, lou trucks, impeachment impacted ukraine's relationship with the united states. mm. mm. so what happened is u. s. domestic politics exploded over the effort to impeach president trump and ukraine. it stopped being in national security and concern in a foreign policy concern. and instead became a prop. i was, it was a device for going after the president are going after the democrats. ringback ringback ringback ringback ringback ringback ringback ringback ringback it took a crisis on the ukrainian border to jeans military maneuvers in the spring of 2021 to push ukraine towards the top of new president, jo biden's,
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political agenda. it also forced the u. s. and europe to rethink their own relationship with russia. should they be staunch allies for ukraine, or should they keep their distance? what about zalinski? what role would he play in the months to come? yes, when vision have used, if i'm worried, when i should call doing the trip numbers and equipment near i bought as keep increasing as real concern with you to last or since the beginning of 2014. since the start of the war and done bus actually seems rushes annexation of crimea, so there's been understandable concern. mueller. he will not it flesh and it's, did an escalation could occur at any time. would jackie moment
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oh, enter the conflicts with sarah kelly. the world has been confronted with horrific images of atrocities against civilians, allegedly committed by russian poor foods in ukraine. we can find a car in men, paul genocide. how should western allies respond? my guess i'm calling. this is a really important minister gabriella lance bag. he joins me on the line with 30 minutes.
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