[000:00:00;00] ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin, hearing the stories of war, 1st hand it when the world sees what happens in murray, you pull, it will be butcher multiplied 515-105-1000. and i witness account of the bombardment of berry opal from a doctor who fought to help the injured and then made the difficult and risky decision to prepare for the long haul. nato chief

n salton burg warrens of enduring tensions with moscow and a protracted war and ukraine. as members of the security alliance meet in brussels . and thousands of people lie on the ground in front of germany's parliament building, calling on berlin to pull the plug on russian energy imports. all german chancellor, olaf shoulds tells lawmakers we must do all we can to stop russia and continuing the war. ah, i am abby core of us and well come to the program leave while you can. that's the message from ukrainian officials to people in eastern regions of the country. the area is bracing for a fresh russian offensive as the kremlin pulls forces from around the capitol. these images you're about to see are from your hygiene near ukraine, 2nd largest city of har, kids,

people. i've been boarding bosses with whatever they can carry. russian artillery has already struck residential areas and authorities expect a full blown assault on how to give, as well as a major offensive in the don bass region. meanwhile, evidence is mounting of war crimes committed by russian forces. ukraine as war anc morning that the apparent massacre of civilians in the town of boucher is likely just the beginning with more atrocities yet to be documented. dw rebecca readers has spoken to a doctor who escaped the besieged city of mario bull. the port city has been under consistent attack for weeks through almost full weeks of war and the most unspeakable conditions. anna, a neurologist worked and lived in the mary hugh paul city hospital, now in the relative safety of love if she tells me of her ordeal. but just let us show, during the heaviest, bombardments we had around 50 patients an hour. arriving

a day the hospital was so over crowded, and the windows doors and roof wall destroyed stead. not long after it got even worse, the russians caught the water supply as, but alice knew we would gather snow. rain water, use the water from inside the boilers and disinfect it. so many patients were dying . she tells me they were forced to put the corpses outside in bags, asked her to have all the worst thing was when the relatives would come to look for their loved ones on him, they had to open all the box, the bitter cold. they're saving grace as it prevented the worst of the stench. they showed bachelor what i saw, i think that even the most perverted minds wouldn't be able to imagine. it's unlike no bitterness. the night of the 20th of march, i named this night the genocide was it me up as wally. this was the night when the bombings just wouldn't stop political, an issue hollow. every time we heard

a bomb coming. mitchells i was lying and thinking i would cover my head like that and think this one will be the one that gets us lost. just a moment come, sickly, and it's hard to comprehend. a moment when you want it all to be over. in a good way that she survive a blitzer looking or in a bad way, and you die to rosa and you don't care how you die. just as long as it's all over among us to both can that emotion and soon it would be she, in a few of her colleagues took their chance to escape. were ye holly? we were driving and then in the distance we saw a flag of blue and yellow flag and ukrainian troops. the block of the proper tumble . one of them gave me a hug. and it's weird, but i asked him, can i be a ukrainian here? is it safe? thought and he said, yes, you're at home. switched over to talk to dormer,

sit alive, but dead inside. she tells me as she faces a life haunted by what she's witnessed. gully is it when the world sees what happens in mary, you pull it will be butcher multiplied 515100, which are by 1000 to modern and the situ. let's go to the ukranian capital, where dw correspondent alexandra phenomena is standing by alexandra. we heard that story from this woman who escaped mary o bull, they're expecting to see more atrocities, more murdered civilians. how fearful are people that this is not the end of such gruesome killings? while the longer rushes war on ukraine and continues the more fearful people here are that there will be more gruesome crimes to be revealed. more mass graves, more civilians killed at will more deliberate shelling of civilian infrastructure.

and we just, sir, can take the, the city of mar, you pull this one. so beautiful port city in the eastern part of ukraine that has been under almost constant shelling from the beginning of the war with tens of thousands of people still trapped there with no access to electricity or water. and we don't even know how many people are dead lying under the rubble of the shalt buildings there. or let's take the small town or for board young car, north of key if ad there as well. apartment buildings were struck by a russian ur strikes and we also of fear of the ukrainian officials of fear or that the death toll. there will be much higher that what we saw in boucher and you were an booge. i recently, alexandra, you've been talking to the people there about what they endured during rush as occupation. what had the survivors been telling you?

every one that i have spoken with her had their own horrific story to tell. one woman told me about her a neighbor who apparently was a very nice and polite person. he was shot dead by russian forces, only because he left his house to walk his dog. other people told me that the 1st russian unions that sir arrived there, there were a quite okay people told me they just hold a try to hold their positions and her control documents. but they are very units that followed. there were brutal and people really had, sir, were scared to leave their house, not to be sh, should dead by the russians. there are concerns that it might worse in russia now says it will focus its efforts in the east of the country. what more can you tell us about that? alexandra russia indeed, sir. seems to refocus on the eastern part or to shift its focus on the eastern part

of ukraine, with ukraine official saying that russia is messing their troops there, that ukraine is now expecting. and you offensive were in order for russia to there will be trying, as they say, to take full control of their, the netscape and low hands region and to we are hearing from some local officials in law hands for instance, that there are urging residents to get out as soon as they can and the hostilities right now still to focus on other done as creature with the city of mar. you pull that i mention that the, the russian forces are trying to seize and full dw correspondent, alexandra phenomena, reporting from ukrainian capital. many thanks, alexandra foreign ministers from nato countries are meeting in brussels to discuss further support for ukraine. nato is warning russia is set to intensify attacks in eastern and southern ukraine. here some of what secretary general against oldenburg

had to say earlier about the need to put more pressure on moscow. we have seen no indication that the person putin has so changed his ambition to control the whole of ukraine on also to rewrite her the natural order. so we need to be prepared for a long whole. we need to support ukraine, sustained our sanctions and strengthen our her defenses. under our determines did all your correspondent terry schultz joins us now from nato age q. good to see you, terry. now stoughton berg says the long haul. what does he mean by that? exactly? abby secretary general still jim berg says that russian forces are by no means leading ukraine, as they said they would do. instead, they are moving further into don boss. he says where they are preparing

a major offensive. stilton berg says it's clear that russia wants to create a land border between don, boss and crimea, which is already illegally occupying. and therefore, he says, allies are going to have to be prepared that these reinforcements, the further troops and equipment that were sent to the eastern allies are not going home any time soon either. instead, they will likely be made permanent. stilton berg says everyone needs to be ready for more months of war, possibly even years. terry ukraine is continuing to press western allies for more weapons and quicker deliveries. meanwhile, more atrocities are being uncovered on the ground. while this impact how nato is viewing this conflict in any way. well, we're certainly hearing leaders express their shock and horror at what's being uncovered on the ground they're in ukraine, which our colleagues have expressed so forcefully as well. but that doesn't mean that nato is going to change his positions on things like moving nato troops into ukraine or establishing

a no fly zone as much as ukrainians would like. that to be the case and ukrainian foreign minister to me to a cooler, but will be here in person tomorrow. to press that personally, nato simply feels that this would increase the death and suffering and not prevent any of it, because that would bring nato and russia into direct conflict. so those things are not going to change as sad as that is for ukrainians. so what more can nieto do without risking direct military conflict with russia then as demitra kilo will ask his counterparts to morrow more weapons quicker. as you mentioned earlier, he will also ask for more money more money for, for a ukraine to buy its own weapons. and also for, for, for the country to help rebuild after this absolute destruction. at the same time, i think that there's also going to be a lot of pressure on the other side of town on the european union side where

they're discussing sanctions. that's how you really hit moscow in the wallet, and many people feel that's the best way to make the kremlin convinced that it needs to pull out of ukraine. so what you'll be hearing from nato allies tomorrow is more strong words telling russia that it cannot step one foot into nato territory. at the same time, they will be saying they will be giving more support to ukraine. and that's really all you're going to be able to expect from nato, as again, as i said, they are not going to move personally nato troops or airplanes into ukraine. dw correspondent terry shoals reporting from nato h q. thank you. terry. from brussels to berlin. now we're raphael, los joins us. he's a research fellow at the european council on foreign relations. thank you for taking the time to speak with us, raphael. let's start now with the images we're seeing out of chap. people in civilian clothing. hands tied behind their backs, shot at close range bodies lining the street. russia expected

a quick victory in ukraine. they thought it would take 3 days to take the capital were about to enter. the 7th week is killing and terrorizing civilians their main tactic. now, i mean, all those pictures are around us, but really they shouldn't surprise us. it's been long part of the russian military strategy to target civilians. we've seen this in ukraine since 2014 when they press next crimea and baited the dunbar region. we've seen an area where they even used chemical weapons, but nonetheless, i think it's the logical consequence. when you read what writing has written about ukraine as a nation, that he denies even exists really. and the goals that he's online and various speeches beginning late last year, every time we think it can't get any worse, it gets worse. how much worse can i get?

i mean there are indications that which are, as is the iceberg m and look really much worse. and maria poll, there's the potential for further escalation of course, but even with conventional attorney region, we've seen tremendous damage that the russian forces have done. but of course, we could see a scenario involved where we're rushed on forces use chemical weapons, the potential of nuclear collection, although very, very remote at this point is of course, a possibility. when a nuclear power is engaged in such a conflict, let's move to look at what europe can do. we heard from the foreign affairs chief, joseph burrell. today, he said that europe has sent 35000000000 euro to russia and energy payments. how vital is cutting off gas imports? how much will that hurt vladimir putin? it was suddenly heard in the long term. we see some european countries moving in that direction. this way,

i'm remembering correctly has announced that they would stop importing russia gas. it's not a critical part of its energy supply. if you look at other european countries, it makes much more of a difference. but even the resume coming out of an out of rome, for instance, is not reassuring when it comes to a quick and barb on russian and fossil fuels and cooling gas. but that just means that berlin has to do so much more on, on other frogs. and if we listen to briefing that choice, germany's chance to get on a saturday, then it seems like there's not much advertised for practice action for creativity, for looking for ways and through the bureaucracy. journey is very capable kasey to look for ways to, to hurt russia across the spectrum of, you know, economy politics in military terms as well. if you focus the german property on and

decimating the russian defense industry, i think that could come up with somebody creative solutions. are they willing to do that if they're not willing to do this full gas embargo? not at the moment, unfortunately. for what more can berlin do? they're facing immense international pressure. they're even facing some pressure with in germany. we're seeing some protests now here in berlin. what more can germany do consistently applying pressure? tawbard? and i think it's the right strategy for, for germany allies, for ukraine. i think strong, you know, campaign that, that ukraine's investor in burton has, has driven on these past weeks where he's, you know, systematically annoyed relaxing members of parliament on twitter and by the media to do more to push the government. and i think that's showing some effect, but overall i think it needs to have sustained efforts and really a realization that we're in it for the long haul that we can't just do deliver in

terms of weapons prices. what proof is quick affects, but we need big effects ready. and that means that we need to consider providing personnel carriers tanks and not just the all stuff that we can sort of quickly all of the arsenal. at some point this will be, these will be empty as well. we need to think about training, ukrainian forces and using more modern driven infantry fighting. for instance, it's all the time we have for now. ref l last new european council on foreign relations. thank you very much for your time and insights. thanks very european diplomats meeting and stroudsburg have been struggling to approve new sanctions against russia. it's after the european commission proposed a package of new sanctions, including a ban on coal imports designed as a 1st step away from the blocks reliance on russian energy. some countries, including germany, as we just mentioned, disagreed on the details of the plans. sanctions need to be approved by all you government and ago she,

asians are set to continue were responsible for walk crime. earlier. the w correspondent, barbara evasive spoke with the president of the european parliament roberta, and that sola in brussels. she explained how the you could do more to help you crane president. miss smit sola, you were the 1st top european politician to visit ukraine after the war began. how did you find president zalinski housey standing up to the enormous pressure and what was the atmosphere during your visit? it was amazing to see a parliament that was alive, full of political representatives that are fighting with the united spirit and such courage and resilience for a country that is proud. and that is really declaring and fighting and competing the let's say unacceptability of this brutal invasion that was unprovoked and completely unnecessary. i was there

a few hours before we saw the photos of the atrocities in butcher and, but also in the aftermath of what has happened in mario, paul, and also around, careful with the last few weeks in the eyes of precedent. lensky, i saw courage. i saw spiritedness, i saw resilience, but i also saw that the face of a leader that would like more from the european union, from low leaders. and that is why i went there in order to talk a face to face with him to see how myself as the leader of the european parliament . but also all of us as european union can continue to help. the response was we need more help, more urgently. we need more arms. we need more military help. financial had been logistic and had this week is crucial in order to make sure that the ukrainians continue to have the possibility to fight. they are fighting and not only for their country, they are fighting for europe. and therefore, when they ask for more equipment,

we need to be ready to give them more equipment when they ask for a quicker, let's say a possibility to access the funding. we should be able to give them that. and when they ask for the strongest of political message, that we do not want to remain dependent on russian oil a cold, but also gas that we need to be ready to say that different countries have different realities. but the one thing that brought, and we'll try to exploit is any process potentially divisions between the members state it. do you think you're really has to really think it's reality? do we really have to come to a new appraisal of sentiment fundamentals? so that is more defense, a quicker reactions. absolutely. we have seen this political will over the past few weeks at where there is that will we act more efficiently, more effectively. and with immediate that's a coherence between the different institutions which is important. not only for ukraine,

but also for our citizens to see that the european union is capable of acting. we can no longer rely on other parts of the world to fight for freedom and democracy. it is also up to us if not only up to us president, thank you very much. thank you. the images from boucher and ukraine continue to shock and here in germany, chance for all of shoulds as promising more support for ukraine and told law makers everything must be done to end the war. meanwhile, outside parliament, thousands of people gathered to demand more action from their government. oh, a rare powerful sight outside the german parliament in berlin. people lying silently on the ground, a clock ticking rhythmically in the background. hundreds chose this way to reject the suffering and death in ukraine and to demand more action. only a short walk away inside parliament discussions were marked by that suffering,

but by the harrowing images from boucher and other cities. officers are doubt, mom, got russian soldiers massacred, ukrainian civilians, there's including children, women, and the elderly. before retreating, falling around a dimension. the cynical assertion made by russia to, to not this was staged these and falls back on those whose bread you these lies. heard of t and and talk to d, the looking for brighten the murder of civilians. who is a war crime i creeks for play shall set berlin would continue to support key if this includes further obs deliveries. if the arms are available, that makes sense because for the conservative opposition feasible is not enough for the full germany is doing a lot hoping ukraine or no question, financially, economically, politically. but concerning the question on, on heavy we're having reference, i think her said german government as to reluctant outside protest has one germany . andy,

you to increase pressure on russia. they demand an immediate embargo and russian oil and gas, which is not likely to happen very soon. but many here believe precisely, this is what will help to put an end to fighting destruction and deaths in ukraine . here are some of the other stories related to the ukraine war, germany as planning to speed up as production of renewable energy economy minister robert ha bag says major reforms aim to eliminate his nations dependence on russian fossil fuels by 2035. the move is attended to help germany make climate goals and become independent of russian energy imports. the un says more than 11000000 ukrainians have fled their home since the war began. that's more than a quarter of the population under secretary general for humanitarian affairs. martin griffith said more than 4000000 people have left the country entirely while

the others are internally displaced. russian writer, ludmilla will at sky is regularly mentioned as a possible candidate for the nobel prize for literature or works of fiction address the years during the stalinist terror as well as everyday life and post soviet russia. but she is also one of the most outspoken critics of crumbling policies. she criticized the annexation of crimea, and is among the 1st cultural figures in russia to oppose the current war and ukraine. but her stance has come at a price lead really lead sky doesn't know if she'll ever return to moscow. the russian writer left to home in mid march a month after the war started. she was persuaded to leave the age of 79 by her son . it's good still. i didn't, i didn't feel threatened. i didn't understand my son's decision, but i trusted his judgment because i think he can assess something better than i can and i was to me

a lead sky. i was one of the 1st in russia to speak out publicly against the war in ukraine. the writer has never held of criticizing rush of leaders. she speaks out fearlessly and sees herself in good company. who am i? not in my wide circle of acquaintances, and i'm not just talking about friends, but every one i know, i haven't met a single person who supports putin was not one of our lead sky is not just an important voice in russia. the trained geneticist from a jewish family has had her books translated into 30 languages, novels, and stories about the tragedies of the 20th century and everyday life in posts at russia, in her later collection and lisa, by her death. the heroines are women coping with everyday life. russia of systems, which is soon russia is

a country where women have the upper hand everywhere except for in government. i mean, if this war can be, it will be by women who if it's not stopped, it means girls in power don't care at all. what women think or want to blue it's lumens ancient. but leach, guy, i feel sure the wall will have terrible consequences. relations between russia and ukraine, she believe have been poisoned for generations. nevertheless, she's against censuring russian. art is to fail to distance himself from putin. yes . it does for hulu. i believe every artist, like every other person, has a right to his or her own views, including in politics as an artist should be measured solely by their work. if they was worthy of being presented to the world, let it be done. there was not been not a person's political view, his personal business, the religion,

despite her own views, ludmilla lead sky, i have mixed feelings about becoming an anti putin spikes. person in exile. writers should observe, she says, and a bubble. she wants to continue writing and hope the war will end soon. this is dw news, i'm out of quote. awesome, thanks for joining us. ah ah ah,

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