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it's by fraud, lou ah, ah ah, this is the w news live from berlin. more evidence comes to lights of the devastation left behind by russian troops after their withdrawal from knoll than you crack. the small town of weak, if so intense fighting between russian and ukrainian forces. d. w, correspond that nick connelly spoke to residents about their ordeal on the russian occupation. also coming off of almond hospital and mario poll ukraine on old
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health day and appeal from the united nations to stop attacks on health facilities and nato. foreign ministers gather for a 2nd day in brussels. ukraine's top diplomat is also there. he is very clear about what he expects from the alliance. janda is very simple. it has only 3 items on it . it's weapons, weapons, and weapons. and german all makers have been debating controversial legislation to make corona virus vaccinations. mandatory, the buddhist talk rejected or know, or to make coverage jobs mandatory for those over the age of 60. despite support for the plan from chandler bluff shots. ah, i'm good. how else has well come to the program? world leaders have condemned growing evidence of war. crimes committed by russian
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forces in ukraine. authorities are still trying to identify hundreds of victims of atrocities in the town of boucher just outside the capital. keith, as russian troops withdraw from the north of the country, locals are coming out of hiding and are taking stock now after nearly a month under russian occupation. did i? b, as nick connelly visited the small town of weak if, which found itself in the middle of intense fighting between russian and ukrainian forces. from late february onwards, he spoke to residence, struggling to make sense of what happened to them. this is, we give a small town that's just emerging from a month and a russian occupation month in which it was on the front lines between russian and ukrainian forces. toys was sometimes just the words people were children. it's as much as many residents of this ukrainian town could think of a plea to the russian troops to leave them and their families alone. and they hid
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in their homes of the figure. but the thing new people in this village spent 27 days without water on the 27 days without bread. he grew up with a demon his wife held out for 3 weeks until the shelling became too much to bear. and they were finally able to leave for a neighboring village of them up when they got back of the cranium military had retaken the town, their home would be ransacked by retreating written troops. a they've got it. everything carried everything out. all that laughter, the walls and the sofa. a 2nd here near you. they've taken all the electronics. i don't even know where they put it all over the months they were here. the russians really changed for the worse. and this is just disgusted at the thought that they were moving around and eating in my house, at least it in sleep here with the full doesn't look dollars relo to put in the book goodness, while they just destroy things for the sake of it,
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him on the road that the refusal never been that the but the impact on this community goes far beyond looted homes, locals to this, they were kidnapped and detained in sellers for days on end. accused by the russians of helping the ukrainian military. several residents are still missing. he had killed a priest to rise linny, bring village with supplies for those who have lost almost everything. yeah. but it's not food or money that the locals are asking for that us, who am i and what was a look for to have the people here need tranquilizers were many of them have lost everything with me that they spent a lifetime saving for wallace. with this, with their houses brought their cars, it's all gone into separate from what you both shows as the damp seller where she her husband and her neighbors spent some of the coldest nights in the year. no, we took done yet, and i agree with linda. we weren't just hearing the shelling, we could feel it. everything was shaking really. all we could do is pray that it
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wouldn't hit us. we just kept praying supplies like these people above and has been going during the weeks. andrew occupation for the shop stead shut. and leaving home would have meant running a gauntlet, or was it that he has got out for the time you've been up and down these steps a few times you'll lose the well to do anything else. to both tells us she and every one she knows is exhausted till washington was waiting for something they can't quite define unable to ever let go. first thing they said we didn't use to understand what it was that people and on boss had been going through all these years stuck in their salus. the last month has taught us what war is. his name sister dickie. for now, the russian army has been pushed back more than a 100 kilometers, but the fear they might return a sudden, as they appeared, is never far away. well did have you curse on it? nicholas conley, filed that report and now joins us from the ukrainian capital t of nick utah been to several town surrounding keith in the wake of the russian withdrawal. and you've
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interviewed numerous eye witnesses at what have you pieced together about how russian forces are fighting this war? i think the overarching impression is one of chaos. in that town we just saw in the report, or the locals told us that most of the russian soldiers didn't know one another. they were from various different regiments, various different pots, the russian army, and after encountering a much stiffer resistance from the ukrainians than they expected. they'd suffered heavy losses and had regrouped in a celtic fashion, often enough, seemingly not knowing who their commanders should be, not knowing where their food is meant to come from. not knowing what the plans were with any kind of advance warning, the sense that the russian command is keeping its own soldiers very poorly informed . they're just busy living in a bubble. often without any mobile phone connection. they've had their own mobile phones taken off them before they entered ukraine, and indeed there are stories of them taking phones off ukrainians. sometimes that's to stop. the ukranian civilians may be pasco information to the grain army,
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but also it seems because of enough, they just want to get in touch with her and families to contact their wives, their families back home in russia. and those are colds that are now being tapped by the ukranian authorities. and we're seeing lots of white apps on youtube now. see, some of them might be a full explication might be part of the kind of normal propaganda that goes on during war from the ukrainian side. blossom do sound pretty convincing and they're talk of looting, talk of even sometimes you hear these white apps where russian soldiers, what we believe russian soldiers ask their wives. they have read spec home. what they would like them to take from the ukrainian homes that they have access to receiving images of russian soldiers in bella roost, which is the logistics hub for the operation. this part of ukraine taking huge quantities of stuff, hundreds of kilos, in some cases, to the post office and sending it back home to russia. washing machines that was in being sent call batteries, tv computers, all that kind of stuff. and we've even had reports now from germany today from the
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german secret services that they have recordings where the russian soldiers are talking about a civilian casualties in ukraine about their interactions with the civilians. here they're a shooting of civilians here. that does seem to back up the accusations coming from the ukrainian side and those the satellite images we've seen of civilians lying dead in the streets of butcher for days and weeks before the russian army had to leave that town. or nick russian forces have now pulled back from those areas around cave where you are and are increasing pressure on the don bus region in the east. and the ukrainian government is urgent civilians to leave. that part of the country that happened was certainly there are lots of trains heading west as they have been since the beginning of this war. and the trains have kept running in spite of bombing in spite fact that trains have been hit. in spite fact that the train staff have lost their lives getting civilians out. but it doesn't seem like the numbers are quite where they need to be. yet. if we're going to talk about a large scale evacuation, i think the hard reality to grasp here is that most people are going to stay as
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long as they can and are only going to take these warnings really seriously. once they hear the shelling what they hear, the war on their doorstep, that's the case. that's been the case in recent weeks when people basically have just consistently left when it's too late. when it's ready, very dangerous to go. we saw people leaving boucher to pin or losing their lives, getting over bridges, been destroyed and being a wounded in shelling m. so as fear here that people just don't really want to believe that war is possible on their doorstep. going into this war there. all those warnings come out of washington coming out of western intelligence. the russia was planning an invasion for realist on this wasn't just fostering and all those weeks we were in those border regions, asking people about their plans, what the contingency plans were, how they felt about this. and basically everyone would tell you that this was just a bluff. they didn't want to believe that this was possible. they didn't want to be aware of quite available. they were and people were just focusing on their daily lives until they had another or no other option, but to choose between
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a risky flight from without or staying put nick on ordering from keith or us thinking it since invading ukraine, russian forces have attacked more than 100 medical facilities, the world health organization says more hospitals and health care facilities have been attacked around the globe this year than ever recorded on wells health day. the u. n. body mares calling on competence to avoid targeting health facilities. ah, the moment a bomb exploded in the city of mary apple and this is what was hit. c the maternity and children's hospital since the start of rush is invasion, more than 90 health facilities, including hospitals like this one in the city of him have been attack well
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according to the world health organization with bullock on for some more than once. at the start of the wool, the main hospital in the town of villanova was hit days later it was attacked again and then again while dozens of civilians were hiding inside, trying to escape. the shelling among them was andree key and here no head of the hospitals, trauma center who was there with his wife and children. the experience still haunts him. a shilling lasted about 20 to 25 minutes with you was clear and the kids just removed the communion. my children and i didn't make it
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to the basement. we spent all this time in the corridor of the hospital. we experienced all the shilling 1st hand. i should get in this beer pavlo cove, tanya oak, is ukraine's former deputy health minister. he now runs an organization that's trying to document each and every hospital attack or our main and primary goal is to help our confidential international community to hold accountable those people who would do those to what a crisis. and this is what really makes our team really, really motivated because they feel that they're doing something very important for this war. which as the war 10 use. so to do the attacks, hopes of prosecutions seem
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a long way off. and joining us now for more on the stories you williamson, he's the director of the europe and central asia division at human rights. will you give us an idea of what is needed in terms of investigation? evidence witness, testament testament is in so on, in bringing a prosecution for alleged war crimes to trial. thanks for having me. yeah. i mean, a variety of sorts of evidence is needed on the high quality witness testimony from all survivors of alleged crime forensic evidence very important. the ukraine investigation in boca, for instance, at the moment, not involved forensic expert is going to the you in the us said those experts to ukraine? no, but you need to be looking at open source material as well videos and photos and verifying those materials and really were made where the video maker said they were made. so
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these sorts of things coming together and, and being seen through the legal framework of the law of war, the geneva conventions, which define how parties behave in war conditions. now, earlier today we heard from a counsel to the international criminal court at the hague. if he suggested that n g o n journalist or reporting on this was a good country view to witness fatigue before the case comes to trial. what's your take on that? that's an interesting perspective. we pay that sometimes from legal experts. we see our role as gathering evidence as quickly as possible, but meticulously as possible and not producing a not creating witness. but we are very, very careful when we're interacting with witnesses, not to reach home and tied them to ensure they have social medical, psychological support. so we think it was a fact that they should have a, have
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a role playing alongside, obviously, the patient investigative. now, could there be grounds for crimes against humanity or genocide, as president lensky is alleging against humanity is a broad term and what crimes fall within that? genocide is a very specific term used for an intended eradication of all part of a group. in this case, probably the ukrainian population, we don't think we're there yet. the evidence is not there. so that's why we think it's important to focus on what is evidently there, the widespread war crimes that human rights watch and others have been identifying . plus the bones attacks on civilians execution and rank by, by russian soldiers, but also abuses by the ukrainian side. just mentioned that you published 2 reports about abuses or pronounced prisoners of war, russian prisoners of war by ukraine. now the international criminal court has
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already opened an investigation, but russia is not a member of that organization. or could we see other countries trying the crimes that have been committed in ukraine under the legal principle of universal jurisdiction? certainly we encourage other countries to do so we're in germany and we encourage germany to a serious investigation that is announced in principle. universal jurisdiction is an incredibly important legal tool tool that enables a country traditional system to bring to court people who committed serious crimes such as war crimes, outside their jurisdiction. we saw it effective in the syrian case in birds last year, and in january this year. so we think it's an important tool that could be used more she williamson of human rights watch. thank you very much. thanks, allie, me, ukraine's for a minister, jim tro, coloma has renewed calls for western countries to supply heavier weapons as he
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meets with nato ministers in brussels. defense alliance is way the next steps. as it was, a conflict could drag on for months. if not years earlier, the ukrainian foreign minister and natal chief un stoughton back addressed reporters. it is an urgent need her to further support ukraine and her at our meeting later on with the nato foreign ministers. i'm certain that we will address the need for her more air defense system. so on to thank weapons sir light to put those a heavier or weapons on many different types of support to, to ukraine. my agenda is very simple. it has only 3 items on it. it's weapons, weapons, and weapons. we are confident that the best way to help ukraine now is to provide it with all necessary to contain put in and to defeat russian army in you. from warner. let sir,
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bring in now how corresponded to jacks park in brussels when nato is headquartered . a jack, we've just heard it. weapons, weapons, weapons. that's what ukraine wants yet. stroke back says he expects ne, till to deliver. saw the 2 sides really on the same page here. well, they are the nato secretary general, one of those weapons to be delivered. but what we heard from the ukrainian foreign minister attending that meeting just later on in that, in that brief press statement was a finger pointed directly at germany. he said that germany needs to do more. he said that while there's time in berlin, there's no time in care of and that's because it's widely a thought that germany is sort of holding up some of the arms deliveries that the ukrainians would like. demitra, coo labor said that the choice is for, for the nato military alliance of the western powers as they either on the ukrainians. this is the deal they on the ukrainian send in all the weapons, the heavy weaponry, anti tank weapons on sierra weapons that they're demanding,
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and they, the ukrainians will sacrifice their lives and, and fight in this war to prevent the conflict from spilling outside of the ukraine's borders that was sort of his very, very strong message, the german foreign minister on away into those meetings said she understood the cause. and there was she sort of thought about the feelings and the understanding that they have the ukrainians, that they're aware that the war that fighting is extremely difficult at the moment . no, as you've been saying, a ukrainian government has repeatedly been complaining that western leaders in a particular plenty of germany continued to drag their feet. let's play some of the reactions in brussels to that criticism. today them an hintock owing and wake up every day and go to bed every night, not just with the feeling but with these horrible images of people. i mean families, old people, young people being bomb shot and murdered in cold blood. if they hadn't done a is as i understand where that feeling is coming from. and i can hardly fathom how
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the ukrainian government and the people living in ukraine can possibly injure that men day in and day at least a help desk garden can semanski has a lot to offer support, but what he really need is more arms less applause or more so clearly, officials in brussels there to the german foreign minister, a lot of understanding for the ukrainian so. so why aren't they're moving fast? well, quite simply get scared and worried that they don't want to be brought into direct conflict with russia themselves. that is sort of fine balance by supporting the ukrainians in that war and being dragged into the war themselves and how that might be viewed in moscow and what the consequences of that could be. and that's the delicate dallas. interesting me as well. again, we've just seen, i mean peas in the european parliament vote overwhelmingly in favor of ending oil and gas imports in the european union. this is part of the sanctions that the you
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is talking about. leaders of the 2070 you countries are not willing to go that far at the moment. we have ambassadors meeting here in brussels. they started their discussions on the 3rd line, the sanctions that would only include a ban on import on coal. but that's any, i'm 4 percent of the energy imports on russia, so that's where the use go and there's a lot going on today. nato, the discussions are right weapons. he, you quoted as discussions about how far the sanctions can go, and all of this is a head of an important meeting, a visit, in fact, of the european commission president, who's on her way to cave, to meet with the ukrainian president vladimir lensky. a highly significant meeting and she's going to want to go there with new sanctions behind her. of course we wanna keep you updated about all those developments going on in brussels stack paragraph. thank you very much. and here are some of the other stories we're
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following for you around the world. of course, and turkey has rule to suspend the trial. in absentia of 26, sounded saudis implicated in the killing of journalists and jamal kashodi, who was a critic of saudi crown. prince mohammed could kashodi ski was killed inside the saudi consulate in assembled in 2018. as his fiance waited outside. turkish court has ordered the pace to be moved to saudi arabia. heavy rain in the australian city of sydney as spark flash flooding, leading authorities to issue evacuation orders. in some areas. sydney's 5000000 residents have been warned of more flash floods in the coming days. australia's is felt as being last 4 months by unusually heavy rain. thousands of motorcyclists surf taken to the roads in the colombian capital, booked up to protest, a new rule that bands more than one passenger airbag on certain days. what as may,
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it says it's meant to tackle rising st. crime, but motorcyclists say it's stigmatized. beerin, germany, lawmakers have rejected legislation to introduce compulsory corbett 19 vaccination for everyone. over the age of 60 vote came after months of public discussion, and a heated debate lasted several hours in the buddhist stuck in berlin. their proposal that was rejected was already a compromise. egan, health minister, carlota buff, initially argued for mandates. all adults to boost the countries. vaccination union did abuse. political correspondence in a hazard is in the german, the parliament for us. nina. the german chancellor came out in favor of a vaccine mandate, his health minister to how could they fail? well, the governing parties are now blaming the conservatives. the largest opposition
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group who'd put forward their own proposal that also fell through by the way, and the governing party say that in their compromised draft law, they had included many of the ideas that the conservatives had called for. and that it was a party politics essentially, that the conservatives were playing. now obviously the conservatives won't have any of that. they say that the governing parties have only themselves to blame that they've got anti mandatory vaccination people in their own ranks. and so they can't just blame the opposition, but it is something that is very clear that it is a massive set back for the german chancellor will have shows who like you said, is in favor of making add the vaccination process mandatory here for adults. and he was willing to go up and, and not make it mandatory for all adults, but start from the age of 60, even as a massive set back there for the german government. he'd called back his foreign minister, and alina babbled, who had attended a native foreign ministers meeting on ukraine just so that she could attend this
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crucial vote for the government. but clearly that was no success. so if we learn one thing to day, it is not always true that german politics is always about finding a compromise. now, how significant is this? what does it mean for the karone of ours situation in, in germany at the moment? well the idea of making vaccinations mandatory was always to boost germany's relatively low vaccination rate. this is stayed low throughout the west waves that we have seen here over the last 2 years. and as the government and also the regional leaders of the state said that if a new variant comes, we need to be prepared better. more people need to have the immunity against this variant or else. so to varian would spread. and this is something that the governing parties argued in their draft law as well that it was never about protecting the germans against the omicron varian because that is too late. and now
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we're looking ahead to a couple of months of potential freedom from virus of waves, but then they wanted to look at what's going to happen in the autumn and in the winter when a more infectious variant can come. that is percent potentially more dangerous. i mean, already now 300 people a day roughly have been dying because of cove. it a heads up with the army kron variant and the government said, we needed to be prepared. but as it looks, germany will not make vaccinations mandatory. and we're going to see a situation where if a new variant arrives in the autumn, we're going to see a chaos of a different measures adopted at hawk in the different regions and possibly also locked down decisions overnight. d w political correspondent, nina has the thank you it will change dw news as a reminder of all the top stories. as russian forces withdrawal from know the new crime, residents of liberated areas,
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i merging with testimony of crimes committed by the invading troops in that towns and villages. under the nato meeting in brussels, you transfer minister challenges the alliance to provide his country with more weapons. the defendants that's it from the other news team don't go away. up next. a special edition of dw business to crystal culver, ukraine. an economy underwood, gal building thanks. ah, [000:00:00;00]
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