a highly likes innovation allies to stepped off for last autumn under this winter, then off to invade invasion allies, as that thought with the additional military support with more military recruitment . and it was a clear message from the meeting today that the allies are, should do more and that ready to do more, to provide more equipment on that they realize an unrecognized urgency. so this is actually one, the reasons why it was important to have a minister collier, but at the me thing. and we are a closely or a coordinate thing over working with others, discussing this issues with her a, with her, with the ukraine. and of course, the different meetings we have helps us also to be informed about that that needs. so alice are, are providing are on the ready to do more when it comes to me to throw support al jazeera and steadfast from al jazeera english. you

speak about more weapons, right. does it mean in quantity are, are you talking about a different kind of lap and more as we call it in a more and fence if weapon and how do you think russia with is going to respond to that? that's my 1st question. and secondly, i would like to ask your comment on this video that has emerged where ukrainian forces appear to be at killing or russian soldiers that have been captured already . thank you very much herb. i fully understand that you're asking specific questions about specific types are weapons or the same time ah, i think it's important. understand either allies or believe it is better often to not be specific. exactly. are about to what kind of systems ah, but, but the rest assured allies are providing a wide range of different weapon systems on both her so at arrow systems, but also

a modern equipment or, and i think that this distinction between offensive and defensive is a bit strange, because we speak about providing weapons to account to which is defending itself and, and self defense is arrive to which is enshrined in the un charter. so everything ukraine, thus, with the support from their dollars is defensive because they're defending themselves on the force, the need, different types of weapons. and the allies are providing them with different types of weapons. and we see the impacts over these weapons her on the backbone. every day and the costa ukrainians have been able to inflict severe losses on the invading russian or forces. then i was allowed to or every report on

a potential while asian salva, over national law. it should be a thought all day or looked into. and of course, any violation over over international law and any war crime is always unacceptable, but i cannot comment on that specific feeder because i don't know anything about that specific incident. go to don't have any ukraine, phaedra. yes, sir, thank you very much. you to chicago choa. ah, one more question about that on sir. i'm not asking what when and how of course not . i'm not asking about those specifics. but can you say, ah, the ear so to say of the line within nato? are there any exclusions of the types of weapons that nato allies are ready to provide? as we heard a couple of weeks ago during the nato summit, like mac, ron was saying that thanks and jets are out of the question. or can you say that

now there are no exclusions of for the types of systems that can be provided to ukraine. thank you very much. because again, if i start to be specific, her in miles is without pilot type of questions actually said the locked about the old congo systems we are delivering on a dollars are or are the living. so again, and the important thing is unable hours on providing a significant military support or to ukraine, but also a human italian support, financial support, and lethal and non lethal and support it. we have done that for many years or, and allies are now stepped off, or then the debt. what, what is important to also on the line is that a ne darlise provides support ukraine at the same time. natal so means responsibility is to protect and defend all ours on the earth. and to prevent this,

her conflict from escalating to full fledge war between her nato and the, and russia on the that's the reason why you all saw her are focused on how to manage the risk of escalation on, also to under care message that we are there to defend and protect all alice or not to provoke a conflict, but to prevent the conflict. and the reason why we have or last week, so are deployed 40000 troops on those directed to command or to the eastern part alliance, and also added more. a troops under a national command, including a more used troops in europe, and this presence is to help prevent escalation of the conflict. so we are preventing escalation, nate, to will not be at body involved in the conflict. her nato allies will not send troops or to build this into a ukraine. ah, but at the same time, and we are providing support to chris in many different ways. go to a hbo,

the lead in my how the u. s. and secretary blinkin, i'm have been approaching this week and why is on a long hall for this war and assumption? why not just do everything you can now, while russia retreats steve his way to end this war is for president to tend to pull back all his troops on to end the war and to sit down and engage in, in the serious are dramatic efforts to find the solution ah, but we need to be realistic and that we have no indication that the present tooting a hossa changed his over or overall goal and others to control ukraine onto, onto achieve a significant minto victories on the background. so we don't see a rush and retreat. why we is what, what we see is that russian

a regrouping and repositioning of their forces. moving out of her know that ukraine . but at the same time moving those forces to the east, and we expect a big battle in don balls big russian offensive. and that's the reason why i was also high dr. today the urgency of approve, the more a supporter to, to ukraine and at the source, the message of course, from a minister collabo. i saw a docile so reason why we need to, of course, work for a quick end to this war. and that's the reason why also allah's are imposing heavy costs on a, on president putin, on the russia, that at the same time, be prepared for a long whole this war may last 4 weeks, but also months on a post bill. so 4 years. and therefore, we need to prepare for the whole year, maybe tingling. thank you so much,

mrs. secretary general. you mentioned a strategic concept at 2030, which will be narrow to map forces organizations. it's wise. is that document? it's very, very important for georgia. what should we expect to, i mean, opened our play about open door policy, about a few share of asp hearings. and can you tell us more about our meet english, george in our foreign affairs minister? thank you so much. the jordan minister of foreign affairs attended the meeting today her and for me it was a pleasure to meet him and to and to talk to him about also a bilateral meeting. and i think it is important to us. we have closed conflicts with the a georgia and also the new minister of foreign affairs at that demonstrate the strength and importance over the partnership between georgia on the, on the natal. and we also are working on how to further strengthen

our partnership, including our by improving and strengthening the package. we have all the agreed on to add more to that package, including issues related to a secure communications resilience on the cyber. so we are looking into how we can further strengthen both the political and the practical corporation and partnership with the georgia. well, in the teacher concept a, it will be agreed in the, at them the summit in madrid. but i expect dollars will agree that the naples door remains open. and also the alice would agree on the importance of further strengthening or to work with partners, including those partners like georgia, which are under pressure from russia on the on to step up or the corporation or the unsupported to those partners thinking mr. gerald,

we just heard her for a minister karuba here offering and understanding when they do that, if you support us with all we need, we shall fight for our security. but also there security. there is natal security so that the president put in cannot test or to can 5. is that also nate was understanding after this meeting with our understanding and the message from all alice a is that we are ready and they dollars already to provide support to ukraine and also a provide more support and, and i, so i recognize the urgency of providing more support and i was the main message from alisa today. at the same time, of course, nato has a core responsibility to ensure a collective defense today to ensure a creditable deterrents on we have done that for more than 70 years by the off 30

russian nation of ukraine in 2014, we are at significantly stepped up our presence in the eastern part alliance. we triple this, i sold the nato response force for the 1st time in our history deployed combat. there. the troops to, to the easter eastern part of the lions on the and we have increased the fence bending across the alliance. and then off that is 2nd innovation after what we saw on the 24th of february is 6 weeks ago from that day. and, and we have a further stepped up with houses and more troops back by substantial naval and air capabilities. so, so, so are we are, are insuring a credible deterrence. and at the same time, a supporting a crane because you, ukraine, of course, the bravery that courage, that the commitment both older ukrainian on forces, but also the ukrainian people and that,

that you can in and political leadership. i have inspired those all on the on the and it is extremely important to continue to support them and i will let you look at it. i said it's an agenda i received a reef cut for natal if they were will be very long. thank you. if the war is going to drag on belong, then they risk is 1st and foremost, for the people of ukraine who will suffer more, who will see more damage, more death and more destruction a. so this is the 1st and foremost charges you for them on the responsibility of oppressed and put into end this war to withdraw its troops on the engage in a series of political efforts to find that political assessment. but of course, as long as the war continues the rule, it be a risk for escalation beyond the ukraine. and that's exactly what natal is focused

on is to prevent that escalation on we are focused on ah, ah, prevention was to print escalation party boy and making sure that the allies so i did leave it as a message on state united. ah, but also by increasing the presence in the, in the eastern portrait on, in particular or we have done a lot older. and then about at the summit we had recently here in brussels with olden a thought had says that enrollment, this is i think wilmont agreed to to oscar realtor commanders to provide options for more longer term and changes in our meet her poster a to, to, to address the long term effects of this war because regardless of where that is, war ends within weeks, months or years, it will have long term effects. on our security on ah,

the way natal natal needs to respond under short continued collect the defends on the safe consecutive ordinate to alice. okay, thank you very much. this is all they have thankful. thank you. welcome to our special live coverage of the nato foreign ministers meeting in brussels. emily la rock. thank you so much for joining us. we just heard from nato secretary general against oldenburg and the moments before that to the ukraine's foreign minister. dimitra cool labor delivered a very clear message. help us now or your help will come to it. we have a very busy program for you in the next hour, and we've got team coverage for you, starting with terry schultz at nato headquarters. terry, i don't know if you're there. yes, there you are. can you please tell us, i mean, the ukrainian foreign minister came with a very clear message. that's right. he told the

allies that while he appreciates the support they've given ukraine so far, it has not been enough and there is no time to waste. in fact, he said it's too late. you can see the bodies piling up in boucher and other cities . he says, you can no longer wait and discuss what you can provide my country, whether it's offensive or defensive, you need to send everything you can now. and secretary general stilton burke follow that up by saying that allies got the message of from foreign minister club about that urgency. and no one discussed exactly what would be coming from allied governments at this point. but if you, if you believe stilton burger's significant amounts of weapons will be on their way to keep it as quickly as possible. not terry, this meeting comes a just a days for the atrocities that we've seen in boucher and at the moment we're told the battle for don bass is raging. do these events at all?

influence nato's calculations? secretary general stilton berg said that there has been no sign that russia plans to give up its, its intention to try to control ukraine. and that a major offensive is expected. and don, bye so that is certainly something that they're seeing with their intelligence and hearing from their analysts as well. but it does not change what nato, as an alliance is willing to do. which means that there is not going to be any 30 country wide delivery of any weapons. you will still not see a no fly zone. you won't see any nato soldiers entering ukrainian territory. they will continue providing support to ukraine on an individual basis. but that is certainly something that is expected heavy fighting, more atrocities, more mass casualties. i think that nobody would be surprised when, when those start to come to light again. and secretary general stilton berg said that because of this, it will change nato's calculus for the future. forever now,

he said that as they work on their next tenure plan, which is underway at the moment, all of this will have to be factored in. what is the ukranian minister leaving with any firm commitments to not just provide defensive arms, but maybe potentially also offensive weapons? that's something that's discussed a lot here because as you know, well there being there in germany, there was a lot of talk about how about discomfort with providing offices. weapons that defensive weapons were somehow more acceptable, who lay by himself said that that distinction has now gone by the wayside. he said that was a wall that they had to knock down the ukrainians, but that they've done it. he said, we are a country under fire when your country under attack, anything you give us is defensive by nature. and that in fact, we have seen countries like germany, countries like finland and sweden provide equipment to ukraine. now that would have been unthinkable in the past, so it seems that the mindset has in fact shifted as, as everyone has seen the brutality of,

of russia's onslaught on ukraine. so well neither minister clayborn nor secretary general stilton berg got into any specifics about what may have been promised in these meetings today. minister collab, i said that he is cautiously optimistic. that help is on the way. at the same time he gave allies no break on the timeline. he said it's already too late. we warranty we needed it earlier. and now you have mucho did of a correspond. terry shows reporting from the nato, a foreign ministers meeting in brussels. thank you very much. for that update. and now let's get you the german perspective. now i'm joined here on the said by chief political editor, ma christner, what we just heard. of course, a terry, they're reporting on some of the conclusions of that foreign ministers meeting. claim starting the day off with some kind of harsh description of germany, essentially dragging its feet saying that i'm quoting your while berlin has time. keith does not. um, we heard

a lot of that criticism in the lead up to the war and after the war was unleashed by russia. what, what is germany planning on doing to respond to that kind of criticism coming from the likes of the foreign minister of ukraine? well, what we heard the german chances tell his parliament to do in question times yesterday was that to him, he would now be willing to send anything that makes sense. he said, and that is available should now be made available, should now be sent and were not learning details. and you can't for mr clay, but also was asked about specific commitments that he got. he wouldn't be drawn on that. he said like money weapons shy. he doesn't want to talk about it in public, and he probably also it doesn't want to the allies that are now providing heavy weapons, more a set of weapons to go back on their commitments. and when not quite clear about, i mean this is, is it the logistics or is it the willingness? because what we heard today from ukraine's foreign minister indicates that yet

another rule has been broken down for not providing any weapons to not providing heavy weapons to not providing weapons that could be used for attack. now these lines no longer seem to exist. and he, he now said there are 2 categories of allies, those who are providing more weapons and those who may not be providing as many weapons. but i'm much more banking on that next step taken when it comes to sanctions. and this is all as we await for the european union to announce that 5th package. it was already talking about last week. but that clearly has become more a set of off after we saw those images of boucher. but the underlying message is, give us weapons, weapons, weapons, and frankly, you are too late to prevent more breaches from taking place as we are discovering more and more places where something 7, a piece of taken place. and so very important distinction that you point out there

. i just want to emphasize that and, and maybe you can expand all that a little bit because is the problem logistics for germany, or is it willingness? because does it have the weapons, weapons, weapons that ukraine needs, but it doesn't have them on the shelf. and this was a moment of kind of a german embarrassment to begin with. and i just want to remind a soul that you know from that list differently than sent 5000 telling that since then it is, it said and rocket propelled grenades. and this is also some how it says, also very old supplies, good dating back to east germany. is now given the green light for east of intact to be sent for the tech republic. because germany has to give the green light on weapons that it has sold elsewhere. and so that is progress in the view of ukraine . and but what about on the vehicles that could be supplied by the german is defensive industry, which is the 4th largest in the world. and that doesn't seem to be coming through that's with the either. and here that seems to be there delivered the blood lines

because what we've also learned from the far mystic label but also from the german defense ministers that they don't want to talk in public about what is actually actually being supplied. so we're not getting the full picture right now, but what we do know is jeremy has gone through some seismic changes. that's for sure. i mean, you already, but the argument is that those changes are still up fast enough. yeah. fast enough, not enough enough fast enough. all right, d, w political chief, political correspondent, thank you so much because, you know, every time you were leaders have condemned the parents war crimes committed by russian forces in ukraine. mid mounting evidence of civilian killings, rape and torture authorities are still trying to identify hundreds of victims of atrocities in the town of boucher outside the capital. keith on this russian troops would draw from the north of the country. locals are now coming out of hiding and taking stock after nearly a month under russian occupation. and i understand that we can actually take you

now to ukraine to my colleague dw, for spun at nick collie who is joining us from the capital. a keith nick. we talked in the past couple of days, you've been to several town surrounding keith in the week of the russian withdrawl . i also understand you spoke to a lot of survivors, residents of these areas that were under russian occupation. talk to us a little bit about your experiences. well, i mean the overriding impression you get from these people is of chaos and fear. the russian army seemingly in total disarray, not expecting the kind of resistance that they found, the ukrainian only providing them. and just under deep shock, you just hear everyone saying that the russian army divisions in towns like butcher bruce, other towns i've been to, didn't know what of the road regiments, whatever divisions were there didn't know who was meant to be in charge were badly supplied. robin are not supplied with the food they needed,

so sometimes they had to ask the locals for food if they didn't break into shops and steel for themselves. and we heard tales of soldiers of very young, seemingly so frightened by the experience of their 1st few days in ukraine that they basically assumed any civilian out on the streets was a legitimate target because they potentially could be someone helping the ukrainian me, someone they would be fearful of and one man put it like this. he said that every time you left the house, you knew that you were being watched through the sight of a russian rifle. and that was basically the reality they lived with for a month in butcher. most people seem to have been killed that way on the streets, a shot, often with, without so much as an exchange of any words with the people attacking them. and then, in most cases left for days or weeks on those same streets only in some cases then being collected by other locals who created those mass graves in an attempt to somehow provide some dignity to people who lost their lives, who then collected their passports. if they had anything, any idea on them in the hope of now after the cranial me returning to butcher and

then getting in contact with the relatives and basically holding on to what happened to these people and the queue. um, we understand that russian forces have now retreated completely from the areas around keys. and well, what we're seeing right now is probably the battle for don bass, the ukrainian government urging civilians to leave that part of the country. are they heating the government's call? some are in the definitely lots of trains heading west. i mean it's pretty extraordinary how the train network has held up despite several attacks on the tracks on the network. several, the train staff have lost their lives so far over the last few weeks, people are leaving, especially people who got out of mario pulled by row to then get to the big city of the patricia, which is one of the big centers in southeast and ukraine. and then heading west from there, but i think in the, for the main part, people are staying put. they are not heating this in the numbers that the granting

government would want them to. i think the, the kind of bitter reality is that until people can hear the shelling near their homes. they're not really willing to believe that it is gonna affect them. we saw that in the weeks, months leading up this war when you had basically all the west, it doesn't services warning about vladimir putin real intention to actually make good on these threats and to invade. and we were that we were on the ground. we were asking people who are living with an amount of kilometers of that russian border that isn't very well defended for most of its length. and they were saying this is all bluff. putin doesn't mean it. this is just a diplomatic game. we're not gonna make any preparations because the issues that really affect us our, our jobs. fact of the local shop goes down and all that, that's far away from us. that was really the, the reality in ukraine crashed by the fact that ukraine's already been at war with russia since 2014. and now it seems that people aren't really budging in large numbers, like only reporting from chief ukraine. thank you very much for your important reporting. and i just wanna recap our top story. ukraine's foreign minister

issued an urgent plea to the west for more weapons to help send off a new russian assault in easton ukraine. and that does it for us, will be back at the top of the hour with more updates on the war. and you crave. thanks for watching. ah ah ah ah ah ah

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