[000:00:00;00] ah, ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin, russia admit to significant losses of troops in his war on ukraine, an interview with sky news kremlin spokesperson dmitri pash calls calls the soldiers dads, a huge tragedy. it's a rare admission from moscow of the conflicts toll on the russian military. also coming up and urgent leave from ukraine's foreign minister. either you help us now and i'm speaking about days not weeks,

or you help will come to late as eastern ukraine. brace this for a new russian offensive keep asked the west for more weapons to fend off the assault. and the un general assembly votes to suspend russia from its human rights council, as global outrage mount over mass killings in the town of utah and civilian jobs throughout ukraine. also a bombed hospital and mary opal and ukraine. and on world health day, an appeal from the united nations to stop attack on health facilities. ah, i'm abby, quote, awesome, welcome to the program. we begin this hour with kremlin spokesperson dmitri pash. gov acknowledging russia has sustained quote, significant losses of troops in ukraine. and he called it

a huge tragedy for russia is an unusual acceptance of russian officials on the current situation. a pash ca still says that russia hopes to reach its military goals. in the coming days, the country's defense ministry reports that between one and 2000 russian trolls are soldiers rather have been killed, but independent estimates put the number closer to 10000. our next guest is stephanie bob's. she's a former deputy assistant secretary general of nato. miss bob's welcome to the w. thanks for being with us. i want to start by asking you to your reaction to what the spokesperson there has said. well, i guess the russia leadership that doesn't have much choice other than admitting that it has really suffered losses, much more significant losses in fact. but i guess it's part of the overall game play of the kremlin to prepare the ground for a longer term war and ukraine. and meanwhile, neo foreign ministers have been meeting in brussels. the korean foreign minister

was also there. and you, me triple a bus as he needs 3 things, weapons, weapons, weapons. that was all that i was on the agenda and he wants them quickly. it's not exactly clear what nato has been providing. has there been any kind of shift in the type of weapons that the alliance has been sending ukraine from day one to now, for one nature as an organization has not provided any weapons, you know, it's out. the allies is the 30 member countries that provide weapons and military equipment and they to doesn't even have and coordinating role. so what the secretary general has actually asked for is to, for the allies to consider providing more of the heavy military equipment that is really needed to counter a mess of land offensive. and i think this is what we're talking about and days and weeks to come. as russia has started to regroup, and we enforce its military troops in dunbar and south of ukraine, we heard from the secretary general and st oldenburg a short while ago. let's have a quick listen to what he had to say. hello, so been doing

a lot and are determined to do more now on for to me do longer term to help the brave ukrainians defend their homes on the country and pushed back the invading forces. all ours, also supporting and stepping up. are you going to turn in aid on financial support? we discussed what more we will do, including cyber security assistance on provide the equipment to help ukraine protect against the chemical and biological fits. now he mentioned chemical and biological threats. if there were to be that type of an attack on ukraine, would nato's position change in any ways that the red line for nato? is there a red line for nato? well it so i personally think very wise of the allies not to identify any read lies in advance. i mean, we used to have had stories in the past for

a red lines remarked and then nothing really happened. so we want to, why does this time? but at the same time, it's very important to do what we call a native contingency planning to prepare for worst case scenarios to prepare for what if scenarios. and i think this is what the allies have started to do already with regard to chemical weapons that russia eventually may use, but also for a potential eventual of application or deployment, rather of tactical nukes. we hear quite a bit about not provoking vladimir putin. it's nito western allies have repeatedly said we can't do anything that might make the situation worse. whether this would spill over into nato territory. but it's become very clear that the criteria for what is considered provocation is very different in moscow that is in the west. so why are the countries that are part of the alliance, comfortable with applying weapons to ukraine, but not doing much more?

well, i think it's indeed very, very important to consider the potential consequences of any action. and this is what the allies are doing collectively. and they have collectively decided, personally, i think, wisely so to not push it too hard to not give, putting that much of a potential excuse to say see, i told you so nate horace egg entering a war so named her is becoming a, an active member. and a party of this operation in ukraine. so let's go for it in order to avoid that. they have kept this defensive line. however, personally, i believe it's very, very wise not to always look at what mr. putting has in line, but to really focus on the way we define our own strategies and policy goals in support of ukraine in terms of nato expansion. putin has repeatedly said that this

is something that is aggravated him by this war on ukraine has actually pushed some countries to consider nato membership. and perhaps they wouldn't have. we're talking about finland and sweden. right. and i personally believe that we're going to see a formal application of finland, most likely, also sweden, anytime soon, i'm not talking with days but rather weeks. but i think it's remarkable how these 2 countries have changed their minds, both in terms of public opinion, but also parliamentary support for need a membership. in many ways, it's a logical step that these countries would take if they put an application, a form filled out on the table because they have been partners of ne, to, for so long, very valuable partners. they have provided so 1st class support for nato operations . they participated in exercises and, and indeed they would really, really be 1st class assets,

if admitted by the allies. stephanie bob's former deputy assistant secretary general of nato. thank you very much for being with us and your insights. yeah. and with reca, the un general assembly has voted to suspend russia from its human rights council. 93 countries voted in favor with 24 voting against the resolution, which was brought forward by the united states. it has condemned, quote, gross, and systematic violations and abuses of human rights by russian troops in ukraine. moscow is calling the decision politically motivated and illegal. russia denies its forces killed any civilians in the town of boucher despite growing evidently in some wants. whom for more on this story did always washington bureau chief in his paul joins us now in as it is good to see you at 2 thirds majority has decided to suspend russia. what does this mean moving forward? right every 93 to 24. as you just said, maybe let's pause for

a minute and think about the message behind these figures. i mean, it says 93 countries agreed on that russia should be sustained from the human rights council. that's quite a big, big figure. and another prove how united way parts of the world are in condemning russians war in ukraine. china voted no here in it. it had abstained on 2 previous votes, or when it came to russia's aggression in ukraine, in the general assembly. what do you make of this move by beijing today? right. i be a china also didn't support the resolution early on in the war which condemned russians invasion. so this is kind of another proof that, that china basically wants to stay out of this conflict. their main interest is obviously doing business business. and this know today could also be very well moderated by the threat. russia are put out by saying that there is no such thing as a neutral ground. countries that decide to abstain, there won't,

will be considered unfriendly. in the eyes of russia. can this decision be appealed in any way? no, only the assembly itself can overturn the won't allow russia to join the human rights council again. talk to us about the kind of precedent there is when it comes to suspending a country from the human rights council. the iso there that's no permanent a member ever of the security council has heads its membership revoked from any un body. however, the non permanent member libya was suspended in 2011 because of violence against protesters that was under the then leaders have it got our fee. so this indeed is a 1st and another proof how strongly white parts of the world feel about this war in ukraine. did all the washington bureau chief in his poll? thank you mean s ukrainians are searching through the

rubble and the liberated town of war, a danco hoping to find the bodies of their loved ones, or the oncologist 70 kilometers northwest. if keith was one of the 1st towns had by russian shelling after the invasion began, local authorities have estimated that 200 civilians have been killed. usually a correspond, alexandra phenomena is standing by in the ukrainian capital, alexander, ukrainian, or authority say 26 bodies have been discovered. why did you witness when you are in board younger? well, i have to say that the scale of destruction and borrowed younger that we saw today was shocking to all members of our team. it was shocking to see high rise houses completely demolished by russian artillery fire and bo boardman there. and so we have to say it was also very heartbreaking to speak with the residents. they that

had to leave on the russian occupation. one woman told me that the russian soldiers stormed her parents house and her mom was a, was told to give the soldiers everything that she had everything of value. and she just specked them not to kill her. i also spoke with the family there and they told me that russian soldiers came to their house and pointed their machine gans guns at them. and the mother she went to her knees begging them not to rape her daughter. so really heartbreaking stories and, and a lot huge scale of destruction there. heartbreaking stories, harrowing stories you've been hearing that from not only in brianca, but in boucher as well. what are ukranian officials saying about these atrocities? well, of course,

they fear that to worse is still to come because we now have access to the towns and villages on the outskirts of kia and, and slowly were beginning to understand the scale of destruction. and how many people have been killed there. but we don't have access to my you pulled, for instance, the port city in the eastern part of ukraine. that is, uh, 4 weeks no under siege, uh, by the russian forces. did all the correspond, alexandra phenomena. thank you very much, alexandra. german news magazine. there spiegel says, it has uncovered more evidence that war crimes were carried out by russian troops and the northern ukrainian town of boucher beagles. as germany's foreign intelligence service, the bnb has monitor russian military communications in which russian troops can be heard discussing civilian killings in ukraine. the magazine said the german intelligence office at intercepted radio messages that suggests systematic

targeting of civilians. it didn't give a source for the information i'm joined now by d. w. security expert from investigative unit lewis sanders were thanks for being with us. walk us through what german intel picked up. what exactly were the russian soldier saying in these audio files? well, 1st and foremost, i would like to note that if these reports of these audio recordings prove true and they could be pegged to specific atrocities committed in ukraine, they would be the clearest admissions by war crimes, perpetrators within this conflict. now, one of the things that we heard and what, why it's quite striking is a service man. speaking to one of his colleagues over open radio transmission saying i just shot a person on a bicycle. now if we just looked back a couple days ago and we remember the images that were king coming out of boucher of citizens or of civilians lining the streets,

their bodies lining the streets. and, and also images of people who are, who are shot off their bikes. now, if they're able to kind of established that these are directly related, that this would be massive. now the, this is important because in the end of what, what this, what the shows is that in the end, they're operating without not much security. and the fact that we can even pick up on this intelligence is, is quite massive from the bnb lewis, the german publications regal, says the audio files indicate the involvement of the wagner mercenary group in the boot atrocities. tell us about this group and as groups present in ukraine right now. absolutely. not. a couple weeks ago, we heard reports that wagner group was deployed to ukraine. now this is really important because this mercenary group operates under the tutelage of the, of the kremlin. there's been

a lot of work and investigations that have gone to kind of show the connections between the kremlin and wagner group. now why is that striking? because the wagner group as not being a part of specifically the russian on forces allows, gives the kremlin plausible deniability in the commission of atrocities. that means that these concepts of groups are able to operate outside the rules of war. and, and so some of the things that we've heard are some of the reports that came out specifically related to wagner group in ukraine was that this group was commissioned to assassinate political leaders to potentially kick now municipal leaders. and this is quite striking because it means that the kremlin is trying to deflect responsibility for the atrocities that are being committed on their side. within a, within the conflict in ukraine. russia has denied that its soldiers have killed civilians and which are anywhere else in the ukraine. these audio files contradict the gremlins claims as do those satellite images that we've seen in recent days

that have been verified by the new york times. is there any indication lewis that these acts were not simply rogue units, but that perhaps the order to kill civilians came from the very top? well, an armed force, especially in, on force like the russian or the wish, like the russian army, which has a battle experience. these are military institutions are highly structured institutions. that means there's a chain of command. that means that there's a chain of responsibility. so to imagine that this was a, a rogue group is highly, highly unlikely. now, and i think we could, we could add a bit more credence to that when we step back. and we start looking at the kind of what, what the russian on forces and groups like wagner group, i've been accused of in ukraine. and what we have seen is a tax, deliberate attacks on civilian objects, indiscriminate attacks on civilian areas. and when we look at this in

a wider picture and we start seeing what is happening when the russian forces pull out of for example, boucher and we see the civilians line on the floor dead line on the ground dead. it starts a pattern starts to emerge, which suggests that this could be a very much an integral part of russia's war time strategy in trying to break the civilian population. and. and when we look at that under internationally mandatory law, that that means that atrocities are being committed and that they are in fact quite possibly part of the strategy d, w security reporter louis sanders. thank you. louis. since invading ukraine, ration force is have a tax more than 100 medical facilities and the world health organization says more hospitals and health care facilities have been attacked around the globe this year and ever recorded. ah, the moment

a bomb exploded in the city of mary awful and this is what was hit. c the maternity and children's hospital since the start of russia's invasion, more than 90 health facilities, including hospitals like this one in the city of it's him, have been attacked according to the world health organization, brutal bullock and for some more than once. at the start of the war, the main hospital in the town of villanova was hit. days later, it was attacked again and then again while dozens of civilians were hiding inside, trying to escape the shelling among them was andry key and he in off

head of the hospitals, trauma center who was there with his wife and children with the experience still haunts him if a viewer, but it was shilling lasted about 20 to 25 minutes. and when we get near, you was clear and the kids just moved. it is my children and i didn't make it to the basement. we spent all this time in the corridor of the hospital after we experienced all the shilling 1st hand i should get in this beer. pavlo cove, tanya oak, is ukraine's former deputy health minister. he now runs an organization that's trying to document each and every hospital attack. well, color main and primary goal is to help our content and health international

community to hold accountable those people who would do those to water cranks. and this is what really makes our team really even what rated for they feel that they are doing something very important for this more switch as continues to, to the attacks hopes of prosecutions seem a long way off here. some of the other stories were falling for you. this, our european union states have approved new sanctions against russia, which included a ban on imports of russian coal, timber, and vodka. the ban on the whole is estimated to be worth $4000000000.00 euros a year. you diplomats are now working on additional sanctions, including on oil imports stronger. the u. s. senate has confirmed could time g brown jackson as

a supreme court justice. she'll be the 1st block woman to serve on the country's highest court. president joe biden called her confirmation a historic moment for our nation. a german lawmakers have rejected legislation to introduce compulsory coven, 19 vaccination for everyone. over 60 years old proposal voted on was already a compromise health minister carl out. her bach initially argued for a mandate for all adults to boost the countries vaccination, res and cooling thousands of motorists have taken to the roads and the colombian capital bogota ought to protest a new rule that bands more than one passenger per bike on certain days overtime. mares says it's meant to tackle rising st. crime. the lower cycle is say it stigmatizes them. heavy rain, any australian city of sidney has sparked flash flooding,

leading authorities to issue evacuation orders in some areas. sydney's 5000000 residents have been warned of more flash flooding in the coming days. australia's east coast has been lashed for months by unusually heavy rain. our next report looks at a group of syrians giving refuge in germany after a fleeing war in their own country. last summer they were helping germans who had lost everything in devastating floods. now they're helping ukrainians, whose lives have also been turned upside down by conflict. mud. as far as the i can see in july of last year, the valley in western germany was hit by devastating flooding in just a matter of days, a novel aide campaign was launched the group theory and volunteers in germany. put a call out in arabic for extra support and hundreds of serums from across germany answered to help flood victims. we,

how far along as we have more experience with germans when it comes to disasters in war. we've been through it all and survived. we're better equipped to deal with it with and many who haven't yet failed the thing. stuff. i'm kind of hung in cincy nestled in the valley, a group of syrians pitched in for months. they bonded with the flood victims and now some of the helpers are moving to the valley themselves. one of them is alan had now he's helping ukrainian refugees. he and other syrian volunteers use the network. they built during the flood to coordinate help for ukraine. he picked up refugees in this bus. now he's using it to move house during the drive he keeps getting calls to organize more a transports for ukraine. on a,

it's an if we built up this team of volunteers after the flooding of both these a team, tanya and now the team can take on other ties and oil through our era. and why not? it's our goal to help out in ukraine. and wherever else we can hinder from when via has a empathize with what the ukrainians are going through and are using the organizational skills they applied during the floods to help ukrainian refugees day by day, they check which helpers are available and when, who has a driver's license or who can drive a truck, right? i know, i know ab dual is another syrian volunteer. my. he now lives in cincy. the war in ukraine has upset him greatly and he lost his entire family to a chlorine gas attack in syria. in for one person,

why is doing this or bashar al assad or all these people waging war and syria? why are they doing this? i don't know. was it while we were filming, and us told us how helping made him feel stronger and find his place in society. they hoped to lead by example and keep pitching in wherever they're needed. like you're watching w news. here's a reminder of our top story kremlin spokes person dmitri pash, golf as acknowledge, russia has sustained well significant losses of troops, and ukraine is called it a huge tragedy for russia. a country's defense ministry reports that between one and 2000 russian soldiers have been killed. but independent estimates put the number closer to 10000 dw news coming up next is to the point rush hour, war crimes. the end of german allusion, stick around for that. i'm abby club. awesome,

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