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ah, ah ah ah, business dw news ly from berlin, russia targets at train station used by civilian evacuees. at these 39 people are killed and more than a 100 injured. as rockets hit the station in chroma tossed in east and ukraine. also coming up wanting of more atrocities committed by russian forces against civilians in northern ukraine. we hear the stories from those who survived in that recently liberated town of borrowed the anchor and a story day in the united states. as cassandra brown,
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jackson is confirmed as the 1st black woman to sit on the u. s. supreme court. ah, i am glad of his welcome to the program. we begin with breaking news out of easton ukraine, where at least 39 people have been killed and dozens more wounded. after a russian missile hit a train station in the city of crime, a toss in the door next region. the station was being used to vacuum women, children, and the elderly to safer parts of the country. officials say thousands of people were at the station. at the time. the head of the regional administration posted these images on social media, showing dead bodies outside the station. the kremlin has denied any involvement in the attack. let's a brand, toby frick, her. he's a uni serve spokesman,
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who joins us from a short and west in ukraine. mr. for, if you unicef team was in chrome at all. today when you talk happened, could you tell us more about that? yeah, that's right. thanks starting the new stuff on today. so we had a team in climate. so scott, at the time and i just been on the phone to them, actually. they were actually offloading some supplies for the hospitals that i submitted medical equipment, some hygiene items, and they were having those over to the local administration when the sound of the bangs happened. and clearly everyone realized something serious was happening at that time. like the new situation ran out to respond and that was the situation that happened just a little bit earlier. so it won't do you know about that translation. how busy is it usually? so coming to us train station is a very busy session. and in fact, it has been for a long time. i've been there a number of times when i've been working in easton ukraine,
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and it gets very busy. i'm particularly now as people were fleeing that one ask area. as we know, there was the governor had, had put out a request to people to lead women and children to head for safety. and, and women and children have been arriving all over the country. so even here in this field where i am now, there's a, it's a massive area for in sunny, displaced people. and there's many, many children when you come here for the relative safety that it provides. so how would you now describe the general situation in the chroma? talk and the of the area around it, the situation from what i said is that at least 2 children have been killed and that's likely to be many, many mall. so it's really horrific. and, you know, you said we've been trying with providing supplies like a said medical equipment. so hospitals, i was actually in salary, which is in the southeast of ukraine, just a few days back. and we have provided medical equipment, surgical license to a hospital there. we went to the intensive care unit where
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a number of children being cared for children who had tried to get out there is where those very heavy fighting. but i'm thought she had been hit by bullets for your flat twice in the afternoon. do you and all the un agencies or receive cooperation from a russian forces? well yeah, you said you and, and, and other agencies and partners were working, trying to get access to the most vulnerable children, wherever they are. and that can be marble. it can be across the, across the country where the head fighting is the heaviest and clearly access to my access to other areas as an extremely difficult. but we have been able to move supplies around like us to not stop. we, we've had supplies and to change any of as well, very recently deleted. so we are getting around the community. some of the most vulnerable children are still stuck. they need safe passage out terrific of her unit, 30 spokesman in ohio to and western ukraine. thank you. very much for the
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deadly attack on the train station in chronic tours has drawn strong condemnations . westerly to say there's only proves the need for tougher actions against moscow in a tweet. you council, president shaw michelle, that more sanctions on russia and more weapons to ukraine on the way from you members. ukrainian authorities on our bracing for if more gruesome discoveries in the wake of the russian troop withdrawal from the north. there was mounting evidence that civilians were killed, raped, and tortured with hundreds of victims. in the town of boucher alone, barb, ukrainian president vladimir zelinski says the situation in borrowed the anchor that 70 kilometers north west of cave is much more horrific. our correspondent, alexander, for norman, was just there and filed this report. they have began clearing the rabble, but any hope of finding survivors here is long gone. for
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a dan car lay on the main root of the russian, offensive on key of the scale of the destruction is so massive that even emergency workers seem shock. dish him about him is why live it? but now we see with our eyes what the russians did to a peaceful tan, there are no military bases here, missed them. they shot people dead, bombed high rise block. so frida, i don't understand why really bad the over here in the vicious, when russian planes dropped their bombs on the town in early march, these apartment buildings were demolished. local authorities fear that up to $200.00 civilians were killed. their bodies still buried under the rubble blueberry hole. in one of the blocks we meet alexander. he is back to sell with some items from his ruined apartment. with you, when the russian bombardment started, he managed to flee together with his family. oh horrible, it's better than it,
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but like, i'm still rain, same clothes i had on. when i left at least i want to take some things with me. his growth will one. this used to be his children's room. his license, i don't really know what to say. smith don't have words left. their bastard's. gra putin in his whole government. if see, can you prove you to florida with a few blocks away a distribution center for humanitarian aid among the residents lining up nina and her family. they lived through a lot during the russian occupation of their hometown, including hunger and constant fear. for dawn, dawn must have known that they were pointing that guns at my daughter and the kids . i went down on my knees and screamed begging them not to rape. my daughter. you know what can happen? silver last night there from a boy. many, he told us similar story, lena says she is still shaking when she thinks about the weeks under russian
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occupation, but she will not unplug them. we have to thank her soldiers, they're so brave. they are so brave that they freed up already. okay. look what they did to my tan berardi anchor was once beautiful and green residence told us, now it lies in ruins. the town is free, but it has paid a high price for its freedom. when are joined by d. w. a correspondent, alexandra for nomine. who is in there, keith? at the moment i saw that present lensky said that atrocities, atrocities committed in the now free town of bird younger are even greater than in butcher. you visited both places. so what's your impression? well i think that in those towns, of course, in boucher and broad younger russian soldiers tend to accuse of terrible war crimes
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and boots, shall witnesses spoke of for summary executions of civilians killed at will. and to when we visited the town of goods, shall we saw the bodies of sick civilians who were according to your creed and authorities shot dead 1st and then set on fire in burrow danica, the situation seems to be a bit different or still we are talking here as well, vowed allege to war crimes are there more huge parts of this of this town were destroyed by russian as strikes. 10 high rise houses were, as we saw in the report, completely demolished, and of course killing civilians and targeting civilian infrastructure is considered a war crime as well. now. so look at the political situation. the u commission president was left on the line and the blocks top diplomat shows up or up both arrived and keith to day to meet president zalinski. this just a symbolic gesture is this important?
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well, i think it is important and of course as symbolic gesture at the same time and according to european commission, president was all a funder lion. this visit is meant to underlying europe, sir, unwavering support for ukraine. she will be meeting with the queen and president, they will talk about additional financial humanitarian health for ukraine. they probably also talk about sanctions. however, we have to say that we have seen prominent visitor as he and keith in the past weeks. and some people say that so fund alliance visit to may come a bit late. and 2 of the people that i've been speaking with, he and key have told me that they are frustrated and a bit disappointed with the european response to the war so far that they would wish to, to have more support from the european union. now in the meantime, the war of course continues in other parts of the country. where's the fighting?
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concentrated right now. well, we know that the russian army has shifted its focus to the east and the south of ukraine. and that ukrainian or officials say that they do expect a major offensive, they're soon they do expected the russian army to try to take her full control of that. on netscape low hands co region and to capture the city of mar, you pull that has been under siege for so many weeks now. and there is also, there are reports about fighting going on in the call i of for instance. so the authorities here and here are expected, expecting a major, a russian offensive in the east and south of the country soon. where has been suggested that this war could drag on for months or even years, how the ukrainians, ordinary ukrainians see their prospects?
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well, i have to be honest, here i spoke with many of them and almost all of them told me they don't believe that the war would be over soon. so they are preparing gets to continue. at the same time, they are exhausted, they are tired, and they are losing their faith and believe in the international community. because they are saying they would like to see more support. there are more weapons of course to be able to defend their country. and also, as they say to fight for european values are correspondent i some are phenomena, they're reporting from keith. thank you, alex, i'm a muma kremlin spokesperson to me to repair, scoff as acknowledge that russia has sustained significant losses of troops in ukraine in an interview with sky news. he called it a huge tragedy for russia. so rare admission by russian officials of military losses. but pest. gov said that russia still hopes to reach its goal in the coming
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days. russia's defense ministry reports that between one and 2000 russian soldiers have been killed. but independent estimates put the number much closer to 10000. now let's get more of their strategic situation on the ground. there from a frank leverage, sees a foreign military intelligence officer with a british army and now senior lecturer in strategy and law. now the kremlin acknowledging substantial losses for the 1st time. how do you read that? well, in legal proceedings, we have this saying which is confessed to deny, which means that if you've been caught out, you must confess, to some extent, a rush of units. many of them, particularly better units, have been absolutely eviscerated, particularly the bottles in the north. so what's going on now is that trying to pull out those savage units and re constitute the better ones in the east? by the way, the $10000.00 figure i think is probably quite low. we'll probably look you to
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figure a bit higher than that. but anyway, you can multiply by 3, the number of wounded and a defectives as well. not only that killed it's wounded, ineffective. so looking about between 10 to 20 percent russian casualties so far, a very significant amount of damage. that is a very high number of today's strike on a railway station there. do you think this could be a sign that russia stepping up its campaign of terrorizing ukrainian civilians? well, it is a said it was a deliberate attack. there's no 2 ways about that. there's no other way to read it . it seems to me that its purpose in so far as it one can be divined, was to stop, stop the refugee flows. and it has to be wrapped the mechanisms of this a quite deliberate, in order for a ballistic missile to be assigned to a target. that's got a lot of work to be done to decide what target back should be. so be under no doubt . there's no question here collateral damage. this was a deliberate strike on
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a target. can only be a civilian target in the circumstances. know it. ukraine is expecting a fierce battle in the eastern regions. now, what's your assessment of both sides? well, the cleaning problem is that they have a salient, which means it means an area of their forces which of bucks into russian into russian territory on traditionally, that's very difficult to defend and they're exposed to having that cut off. now clearly now obviously they're very, very cognizant about, they know that's going to happen. and that's why we're seeing the fighting. that was say, now around in the northern part in the salient. but those lines have been drawn now for quite some time and haven't really moved over the last 7 years. now the implication of that is that the ukrainians are going to be very well prepared for the russians. that means for them very big problems and trying to achieve a breakthrough. usually you would expect to have
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a 32131 overbearing numbers on your opponents in an attack situation seems very clear to me and most, unless the russians don't have that. so what they're going to be relying on, i suspect, is some sort of operational surprise. now the nature of that, clearly by definition we don't know, but they don't have to pull something special out to be able to break those ukranian lines. now let's talk about help for ukraine from the west, and that now the more sophisticated weapon system that the west ascending like drawing drones and loitering munitions like switch blade for example. you think they can effectively help counter rushes, numerical superiority. well go, they've done to some extent in the defensive the problem the ukrainians have. is that what the west passing of this idea between defensive and allegedly offensive weapons is entirely false. all weapons in situation. fast moving maneuver, warfare can be used either in the defense. so the offense,
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what ukrainians need to do is counter attack and for that they need a preponderance of ahmed vehicles, which they probably haven't got an amount that they need and they need to get them fairly quickly over the next 6 weeks or so. i would suggest, so what we need to do is to stop talking about what we're going to give them and give that kit. it's ready. it's available. the polls have already back fill that, that stocks i suspect they're ready to give their tanks over. and as for the fighters, you know what, let's get over that. give them the cover they need require, and equally importantly, to replace the casualties have taken in their defense systems. the massage systems which can also come from nato as well. now this could end up being a very protracted campaign. russia still has resources. manpower. what can the west do to help you crank, keep up the resistance and how long do you think this was going to take? i think it's going to be regrettably, i think it's going to be a long while. i think it's likely to be decided on the battlefield. ukrainians
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don't seem to have a problem with numbers of soldiers. the issue will be attrition. this will become a war of attrition. and the prevailing side will be the side that can not only sustain its material force and the structures to hold those together. and that's a problem to the russians. but also there's a moral component. and the moral component over the last 6 weeks has been absolutely decisive for the, for the ukrainians. they're defending their homeland, they've got high morale, they got good training that got good doctrine. and all of those things the russians lack at the moment. but that, but of course, what we have to bear in mind is that russian political determination seems to be undimmed. and that's going to back up the russian offensive for a long time to come friday, which their electron strategy and law and a former british military member. thank you very much. i scout
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now with russian forces retreating from northern ukraine and regrouping in these. more details are emerging about how people survive their time under russian bombardment. now they are fighting in some cities has stopped. many of those emerging from bunkers and sellers have found their homes destroyed. in the meantime, if adapted to life on the ground. abandoned weapons. devastated buildings the russian soldiers might have withdrawn from chair need have, but they have left an indelible mark on the town. and on the minds of the people, as homes were attacked and destroyed, the people here took shelter together in places like this, sharing the relative safety of underground spaces. but now that the bombing had stopped, some of finding it hard to leave the place is that save their lives, some have nowhere else to go. others feel unsafe, going back like eula and her 8 year old daughter. not only shows the listless of now, there are approximately 60 people here, mostly people who lost their homes,
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and people whose houses are not livable. at some point, there were up to 600 people. they were sleeping all over the place at that time with his father post on the boards. in the besieged town of mary paul bunker living has become a way of life. 12 year old masha and her sister valeria have done to come out into the courtyard. they spend most of their time in the shelter i before i was afraid of everything of the slightest noise, but little by little you get used to it. a few weeks ago, they tried to leave by car in the middle of a battle, but had to turn back after a few meters. another shelter had been fatally hit. when we are on our way, the children and grandparents in the back, i was in the front of them with them here. when we turned in front of the theater,
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that about something exploded in front of us and the windshield was blown out with us. now they have been living under ground for several weeks with little light and 12 other people. there are a few home comforts, but masha long's for her old life. personal to them, i just want to go home and go back to school to my activities to live like i used to live, while millions of displaced ukrainians have fled to europe for safety. those left behind have little choice, but to shelter from the storms of conflict to the us now where the senate has confirmed could tunzia brown jackson as the 1st black woman to sit on the u. s. supreme court supporters including president joe biden of hailed her appointment as a historic day for america, but most republican senators voted against it. the age of 53. the names are 47,
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and this nomination is confirmed. after 233 year wait, a black woman will soon sit on the us supreme court. catan g brown, jackson watched herself enter the history books from the white house, alongside president joe biden, who hailed a confirmation as a historic moment for the u. s. g, 3 republican senators voted with the democrats to confirm brown. jackson is only the 3rd black person and sick woman to serve on us. his highest court, the vote concluded a bitterly part is an approval process. they were that so brown, jackson, grilled bar, public and senators on hot button issues like race relations and abortion as well as her reco. as a judge, senate democrats were overjoyed by the result. most of it is just an amazing day. if i had to think of an adjective to describe all of us, it would be elated, elated because of this wonderful person going on the court. this has been a long,
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hard road. as we've tried to get to greater equality, less bigotry in america. and there is often steps backward, but when you have a day like this, it inspires you to keep moving forward. frown jack, set your play, steve and brian, when he retires at the end of the cold current term, but with the conservative set to maintain their 63 majority, she may find it difficult to make much impact on the increasingly right wing court . let's have a look now. some of the other stories making headlines around the world. 2 people have been killed after a gunman opened fire and these railey city of tel aviv several others were wounded in the shooting at a bar in a popular night, left district security forces later showed that the attacker in a gun battle a chinese city of shanghai is testing its residence on mass for cove it 19 for 3rd consecutive day. after announcing a recorded 21000 new cove 19 cases. the city's 26000000 inhabitants remain on
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locked down with residence, complaining of shortages of food, and other basic necessities. pharaoh has ordered its military to clear all roads after protesters blockaded them for over a week. the protests have been sparked by inflation, which has risen, risen since rushes invasion of ukraine in the capital. lima thousands recently talked to the streets in defiance of a curfew imposed by president pedro castillo. finland does investigating a case of sanctions violations after artworks bound for russia were confiscated. customs officials say they seize 3 shipments containing paintings, sculptures and antiquities. the art had allegedly been on loan to foreign museums and was being returned to russia by a finland. 42000000 euros. that's the insurance value of russian
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art works, impounded during transit through finland, among them, a titian, a picasso, and a carry. annie. they were intercepted at finland's volume of border crossing with russia. the works from collections in saint petersburg and moscow had been on loan to museums in italy and japan. in early march after the invasion of ukraine, russian museums requested their return earlier than agreed, perhaps in anticipation of sanctions. days later, the e prohibited the sale, export, and transfer to russia of luxury goods, including art works. this let the foreign museums in a quandary, a spokesperson for finland's foreign ministry, said the impounded works would be properly looked after until further notice model of the so the situation is temporary, was the russian museum still only artwork. so the foreign ministry is clarifying the issue with the european commission. it must be noted that the contents of
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sanctions unchangeable. blo, finish official say they're investigating can individuals for breaching sanctions by transporting the works of russia has threatened penalties for the delay in the artworks return. the question of whether art on loans should be included in sanctions. is controversial. recently, france agreed to return 200 paintings to russia from an exhibition in paris, despite calls for that confiscation you watch any w news. he has a reminder of our main story. at least 39 people, including 4 children, have been killed in a russian as strike on a train station in the eastern ukrainian city of trauma tolls. thousands of civilians were at the station at the time of the attack, attempting to evacuate to safe if possible. and that's it
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