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ah, ah, ah, please forgive, smells nero's laws the war. none of them for free to roam the law. the way to die a ah
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was i why does do the true oh no. you just gave from memory. oh so i do phase or me with it what the what kind of i've returned to the balkans, dozens of times. look in the middle she of us into i don't want to put this place
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behind me because i feel via hacker stories. i think a part of my stories interwoven with the war as i've experienced feel other than what eats and the seeing people dying and surviving all development. okay. i wonder constantly seeing the supplier, these people left without a presently possibly without a future, people to go much laid down by the crisis produced by the war personally, a little i need some answers. i was like, oh, why do the true oh you just gave from them. oh, so i
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have to phase during the day said channels to some all i went through god. i remember one of the firemen putting out the flames in the library, not be able house total. i stood in the doorway to my house and saw this injured fineman coming out of the building with a shot of glass sticking out of his back. i was sent down to the basement to its former for was it so that's my very 1st memory of the wall global nissan and i knew almost nothing about the sorry you have a library back then i meal, i mean, it was just a beautiful building called little dawn on the of
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it's costly i cuz i only understood the significance of what the serbs had done when i got older. dr. rod, they burned more than 2500000 books in the, on the canadian i saved a book called teddy conical tank or says wallet, teddy's valor duck one does all the neighbors told me off when they saw me entering the library and took me to my mother, but i refused to let go of that book and co mom i was told not to enter again because of the smoldering fire and the stinking about 3 the some of you ah, do you with ruth? but it will you fun? how good to work now? everything is good now. okay. hello. i'm really glad
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if when nina, this is the boy who led me and my colleague francois mother around. sorry, it was library. showing us a safe way around the building. just some days after the fire became, he was living with his younger brother, an older sister, and his mother in a shack next to the library. still hill. he'd never been to school and missed out on many things. but he was a very intelligent care technology. later he met a woman who had 2 children and went on to have a 3rd with her in the one he has a hard time talking up and he clearly suffers from post traumatic stress disorder. and he carries this burden because the population of bosnia didn't receive any help after the war. no help at all. mm . oh
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ah ah yes, of course i got the other children today who are the same age as i was back then are growing up in times of taste. decide to go full valued, the total they play football. and the other thing you said outside, cuz my mom does when we were 10 or 11, we used to play war games for us. more shall we'd run through the destroyed library for sometimes we'd heard each other. he probably isn't totally football was less important. football. maybe and 3rd or 4th place to perform. yes. well, david said he may be about over there to swallow. yet we tell him that the war took
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many things away from ace crowd cheered. i could have been a good footballer, smuggler somewhat fits corporal ballier rosario. i had the talent but nobody to support me after the war came to an end. camille, cause you're more need in nearly a small ward out. cortisone. mia? la vehicle. mom. he mom. i'm at osalla but now that i have amen. i'm trying to give him everything i couldn't have in a window out of a couple people do need to charge us kids back then we're all talented petroleum and everyone was good at something time, but we never succeeded fire biondo, but on the channel it come niece was killed to describe deal sal. how were
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we supposed to was to be we had to fight for our survival clues will survive in the war, was our biggest success conquest on the 0 percent. i told him i would choose with . busy i stopped photographing the dead because i realized that the dead were the smallest problem in a raging wars. they're buried and then that's it possibly. and what happens to the living in philadelphia, i could have gone to the morgue to photograph the bodies of dead children on a daily basis. i chose to avoid it because after 4 years of this, you say, it's better to talk about the living room. mm. ah
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ah ah but hello this a chair and i think this is a the 1st picture which i've yes, it's very interesting picture for me because you will see the un and you'll see the kids are playing in this i was going to more. so i've kind of lost my friends and the other people to share this picture. and so talking to people who are,
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even in that part of, sorry, i have all and i have so many comments and suggestions who can be that and the after that i see a couple information that those goals are 5th of selma and al mom assistance yeah. and i find them on facebook conflict with them and they will join to the our project. yeah. ah. design that alma compliance on like a peach airport act in melissa i was 5 when the world again not going to systems of after finishing my studies and to is them today i was in
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various hotel in, sorry i thought metallic mom will thought i will should a says she, a political situation is very difficult. broad. was there a point on mine cover that there are a few opportunities for young people. yeah. them lot of java coded the so i was talking about my youngest sister zelma recently completed a teaching degree faculty at god that she always wanted to be a teacher. fell of the damage is applied for jobs everywhere. the can't find one. cochrane hammer told us that's why she looks after my daughter on the advent. ah, oh, the that is my uncle bodies until on miles important says xyz. this miller very close need family. this walk, we talk daily and meet a few times
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a week or so even if it's just for coffee and a short chandler baz nick or somewhere or knock with the molecule to poppy and we'll call for the civic demon approach us comma. but then what are the nights? so when it comes to the war, we usually just make out a not to the don't think our parents want to talk seriously about it. auto thought . we remember some funny anecdotes from the time and both talk wings that make us laugh today. am i got the gun to their son to the knock or those that's me. ashley's of it, but i can't find books soccer conceal over here. maybe look this with most of the genius not to say i'm was i'm excited and curious. mostly curious, trouble in oxygen. i'm looking forward to meeting this person who was so interested in his back then when we weren't even interested in our family cabinet. and he found seventies with danny and bill, a mom which of the photographs that the it was impossible to take pictures then
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that would that i don't have any from that period of my life sleep call. i think the photo of asco took is the only one we have from the time of the world. oh, good after the queer, me, mom. ah, my mom, i know shibel a shock. my mother was the most surprised to see it because she demanded explanations from us. even after all these years, our quick win was disposed to take him. how could someone fo scratchy, even alone in the strain mccormick, who was looking off to you? yet we told her we'd escape from granny to go out and play lavonne. mom was speechless and i could see the same angry look in her eyes that she used to have when we were being naughty. like kid villamor, alec of nurse florida. lush. mm
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ah, it was for the year was this man who photographed the war and sorry ego. he's the one who took pictures of children playing a mystery even will this photo was taken here in a 100 from valley. i can't tell you anything about this one and none of those faces ring a bell. teach what i don't see very well any more, to be honest, where you would have to, even if maybe someone else is still living here who is around that age at the time, you might remember something to get a mortgage. i should check with amier, who lives over there and where exactly over there goes putting the owner of the pizzeria downstairs has lived here more than 30 years. he stayed he throughout the war to let you ask if they lived here during the war with this picture was taken next door, had you can recognize some law value marked with
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a v e news or something i was interested in. we had a dam on music. do you know who is in this picture? nice. i'm not, i'm not in the picture. that's for sure. but. oh, i think that's yes. menlo park, but yeah, i have his number. oh, those are the windows of my house. oh, those went down at any of your house via mobile. i'll give him a call. ah . and do this okay. i'm skinny here. you're leaving me sally alone? yeah. when you leave here, this meeting has been in the silica in this part of the city. yes, it was, my neighbor said florida the cook,
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so the ball is in the budget is with us, like no, not for your own your own. she. this guy went to croatia rica played on h years ago. although i'm with this one here is amara, i'm august, adriano adrien in san diego ranch, me an english like oz. he didn't leave me. ah, you see the smile of, of all this is amazing. i, this is amazing for me. it was like, i smell the tv hungry. i mean, we don't know what looks good than what will happen in all the regional any come many a to a bill was took out to children. i really didn't know when it was the best. what are one of the best times of my life? would she but i looked fellow sounds paradoxical. what it was was mayor, but
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a grip. oh no. we started dedicating herself to sports, but then went back porch to basketball. teams quoted from or sure who you're right . so our generation wanted to play basketball. that's not many wanted to play football. we had a lot of fun. was even got us where we followed the embedded game slash foot eto of ditch was commentating ro in general. barbara bernard, start ga, ga, ga. pippin, chicago. or can you see new york nicky iceland? oh houston rockets, rockets, it, it thought we were hoping to play professionally. not that somewhat one, at least in the european goodwill room school course lead illness. my full name is tommy abdulla. can me call? denise coach. i was 15 when the war began at nashville. i became a pro basketball player after the warrant boy, both spoken of to move it to post operational. i played for the national team of bosnia and herzegovina, and captain, the bosnia, sarajevo, club,
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columbus on no knuckle, no, sure. then i played for 2 foreign clubs. v in the sun is under color, denali rodge truck. with the mil to la mosier missing, bo, quoted elijah touching disc. certainly that is until i saw that a back injury order the herniated dish caused by bad living conditions and poor nutrition during the walk. with lot of, i mean for that same reason, most bosnian athletes of my generation had their careers cut shorts that go to nicholas lloyd law. as mine ended suddenly at 24 or 25 at the peak of my career allied the building blocks mountains. mm hm. so do you remember how he played cards here? oh, how could i forget? i remember everything. leave me look for almost everything. ah,
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what proof of when will you lost here with a pin in september. i think for them i don't come here often. um, sometimes i look at the courtyard from above. my mom planted this a get really nostalgic. me too. mm hm. mm. it brings back memories. ah, nicole which shoots the bowl game with a plan, not a 3 pointer, a free throat. okay. is a lot of fun. i might assume that all the blazing in the may 92. for one night approximately dozens, dozens of grenades fell here. it was like, look up a little up apocalyptic, you know, and the need to find out it's all windows are broken and, and if you,
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if you were, you stay in the, in the last line and they asked man, and i, and that even down we do our parents in the basement and based on was a practically, there isn't that window the basement thing. and i remember every time the grenades of fell down with their local, very scared to cut the, put your, the charge from cards. you probably put the search the when it's all began or it was the 1st time we had to face such a situation to be lost, cra watched. it was awful stuff from your own. oh, but i wasn't afraid, maria too, really felt like i was in a movie with her. i didn't think my life was in danger. you of me and i saw it differently on context growers and i thought i'll survive this repository alone was such a huge to the worst part about it. with the filter conditions we had to live in prod, she will still get the everything got so dirty because the shells made the dust fall from the ceiling to the pressure missouri. we were filthy and it was cold toys
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. verbena was maybe it wasn't that cold on the humidity of the self and all that was the worst on warner. what god, i felt miserable and stripped of any dignity calculus or social to that. so i felt like made those clear tunnel when i was down in that basement. so he'll assume is if i had no dignity some so soon as to 1000 a problem with and it wasn't so pleasant to see older people. oh good. that the couldn't not find any answer and solution and, and usually when you're new or can you watch into the, all your parents, your old, all the people all day will erect. and that, that david lost and scared. ah,
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i lucille copied dialing because that i ever was the host of the 1984 winter olympics with the and it was a multi ethnic, multi cultural city community with different cultures and religions, coexisting, harmonious landed money that he almost then it became the city where the myth of coexistence was shattered several piano, where the bridges that had been built were destroyed, and when the last one 1st, they were crack days. and then later he destroyed glasgow loss history and ah, read down god. when did to warrant. and i'd say them officially in 1996 is that this is shifting back then there was no telephone or anything bill until ok. so he played games in the street as well. say football,
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football game optima had the agenda can be used to play by the library. and when foreign travelers would ask you, what can i bring you from my country to minute? my answer was always the same family. a football is for. as in elliot clumped roger, that's why i had the best footballs after the war. i'd really love that. you can't imagine how hard it was to get a hold of a football shack with this could be a little up to number. we also played with marbles by sunday galley kid on the oregon is cliff was only one. we knew a soldier during the war. elecom for lack of meal. yes, broncho russia was in the war warriors who saw bratia polio. they were all soldiers inch ashi jojo dollar. they were protecting us from the attacker. the to have guns . yes. undo. how did you survive when you fell from the 4th floor of the library synthetics? i didn't fall from the 4th floor, but from the 2nd 3. sure. you know how the stairs got broken? bailey, my komatt. so some steps were missing here. my ocr, i slipped and fell to the ground through one of those gaps. this is so they had to
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bandage me all off from you. i was a total mess with a broken arm and leg. tell me some more stories that and i clicked on the column of literature. what that too. so i don't usually talk to america about the war because there are certain things. i don't think he needs to know at his age he lost also. there's a lot, i haven't told him about my childhood is preach because i just don't think he's ready to miss yolanda. does not all swing on the lawn. yar some jasa mom hadn't gotten emma when i was a man's age. now she was i was already a man, so somebody will say all the things i saw and lived through god. it's like i was already 20 years old, then not 9 or 11. the time will come when a man grows up and i'll tell him about everything that happened here in gluck. there's no snow now. do you like it better with or without snow?
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without a shirt. wait and see how nice and green everything will be in summer. in the library was nice before they say it was rebuilt exactly as it was, but i think it was nice before on call from you know, when shania we have photos of the old library at my school. lou
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ah ah ha, shall he ma'am? miss baton. you're near to the yoke upon to his m a t. i don't believe he is where they buried him anyway. it's just the resting place of his body was for him and his soul is within me. his family and in every one who loved him. e, possibly as you are a mallet. armour is gone. he's to every time i visit his grave, i say let's have a smug bella. and let me smoke together. one cigarette for ama one for me. yes ma'am, we hadn't said ah,
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my name is a shaft e. my name's alisha bash, it should lina. i was almost 7 when the war began. some of somebody over there, mamma is asleep. how sort of reach t a g o z lamara mac uncle? my mother came screaming out of our building union picked me up from school hoodie . she seen that on the way home. she cried and said some small, this is gone, the war has begun. villamore that's not relaxing. i remember as my father at the door with a gun in his belt. yes, awesome. he volunteered for the front and we didn't see him for a long time on that. we'll go with it for at least 3 or 4 months to see it. does it? so least in the change it should be in the neighborhood then changed from that's where i still live. nice phonetic you. now to be like during the boy we lived in
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hiding in the summer, but every now and then we went out to play in front of the building close to that house today. and i'll let him out. i had an old car and some bikes with clint wheels came in. we couldn't even ride them in the a similar to of us tunnel. we basically played without toys. he, he simply had nothing i had of stuff coming out of mr. po of as a 1st time have osteo came off to the rosalie talk, he brought me a whole album and i saw all these pictures and 1st title album. when actually that was like come then the tears came for it to be. my mother insisted to in mobile, i'm it is that some black it was so strange to see these photos kapco. i stood up a lot of emotions and nazi
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taught us was it more know much more as positive. you could almost say that we were born together than that study. i was a year older than amar, and all that domain was the youngest. as long as our mom was alive, sylvia g, we were all connected for billy lecoq. he was the one who held us together. key please mention that now that he's not here ever things different that took when they got a m, i was changed and he asked no such as what must say it was sad able, poor, don't film. so christie la la maria, bad scene will be thought i might. i missed that he check on about a coffee shop or trio. so saturday school, not city of janet's viola. i'm out of me strategically at on in senior, which got us to any colleague a corner body ought to be peach empathy, void somebody just now clinic concentra question. well yet, but i mean what poverty, that premier managed input that's in my as many steps on addressing possible my concern, i thought i ever incidences as well by the said regardless. nancy ha eva is that i have always with bobby smith that though got ya. police at that, i got an yema. i'm
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out of us for to for me. i'm, i'm no go stressed homes went to this town. nathan and katherine lamar death changed many things in my life. a part of me died that says no happiness that shakes a person when i was at the sadness drama. if that life or not, then that's what makes you the person you all ah mm ah ah, cut that out for child. my, my not on my mouse, total of them with their mother. his caceres, with my mother, kept him working as the nurse when the wool began. the image is doing many more
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hours than before. it's harko press father who took my father stopped working. the taxi driver and joined to post it and had to go up. nanami had forgotten it either . ah, ah, ah, ah, my name i was named belinda means i jim went out for us. the most important thing was to be outside to cock. we didn't understand that it was dangerous to be in the straits yet. so if we saw from the window that another kate had gone out to throw, who would also try to go out straight away? i'll be there too. mm. oh no sich, i'm somebody calls or is it all goes to some place evil, a threat door post? i have no idea how class i don't feel like a will victim because i survived. i get to forcefully. molly,
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the other children had it much worse. he or barrack many became disabled. oh food or both cornell it's john said that didn't happen to me. so i didn't feel like a vic didn't quite mad you. no more scholars will probably affected me psychologically. villa thought odd, look. but i think somehow it made me stronger me and told me that some things just happen every or i tall or e. no. and you have to deal with them if you want to survive, whatever the pleasure of it was. do feel like a victim of the war for because if it hadn't been for the war bill, everything would have been very different. she ah, yes. semester. meanwhile, potter, just to put sheet out to my name's yasamin le party. i was 12 when the war broke out. i had started university in 1999, a quarter of food, so food commerce, no. i wanted to 30 criminology. and i thought i could fight against the crime that
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was most common during the time of the war. and still is the fact is the political corruption soccer and that was my plan to pull its keep him home till told me real hard corner car and i wanted to fight against this a justice for bullying. gluten, it's a major justice to abortion. some ways, i think it's even worse than the war itself. director. ah, none that i'm all of them though, since the monks now i know that i can't change anything. and i don't feel that obligation any more. i realized that i can't. i tried to book, but they didn't let me well is, would all sounds from us. they didn't give me a chance to make an impact on monday the i'm missing then and that this pointing and i think it's simply impossible. suddenly on or not putting, i stopped following politics and i feel better because of it. so sunday she and i
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try to enjoy culture instead. and plume awed couldn't on to last a sore. she she, she, i don't know. i think everybody lost her room. once the people who died the injured oh on there was material and economic damage rooms could, there were so many difference losses. hello, glued that the people lost the group. well, the military and the politicians, so do they didn't lose a lot of them. they would profit again, if there were another warrant, kaji was currently the blue excuse on in the shingle. that war they would win again . phone bill pit the little 1st. ah
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ah, richard inside the brochure. the as soon as i 1st saw that photo, i haven't only been thinking about that time, but about my life in general, and i couldn't fill that out too much is as of that is it's been good to reminisce even though it has been painful. don't, don't have been at all phones, 18070. some yet could be bullied drunk. i can't stop yawning. what time did you wake up? i didn't get much sleep. all one. it was called me neither. maybe because of this meeting fill. i don't know, maybe my subconscious kept me off alone. i'm a thorn on this hasn't happened to me for a long time, for quantile funder. and you know, i've been thinking about why adrien didn't want to come about postal. i think it's
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because he experienced everything in a very different way. uh huh. because he's croatian world, people treated him badly with comcast on some really? yeah. even after the world did he talk about is like new cause? no, never cause that's why i'm telling you. read me because, but we would have protected him or some noticed that it was a very difficult time for all of those who fled to sarajevo. but also for the locals who weren't muslims, literally only broke. they stayed because they felt bosnian. and i think this is the group of people that we ignored. and it was exactly this idea that destroyed bosnia it of course on. okay, digital if we were smarter, we would build the biggest monument to those none was ones who died. defending bosnia spoken. elizabeth. they're the best example of what the idea of bosnia was. i
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should do what sheila took to chances of the see me was attacked. she is, he comes with iraq to prove it was always cool, but it still stops in 1996 or 9070 roman went back to school after the war getty, when we came to class on the 1st day, they asked for a full names. i p, she moved i, they wrote my name down and asked, were caught your religion dear. and i said, what do you mean? what's my religion if you need that today, august 30 i was told yes. so you have to add that on the list with 30, but how can i choose a religion that you minister, that my mom's an orthodox bosnian and my dad's a muslim,
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what am i supposed to answer without offending my parents are going to be. i'd rather not write anything after they told me you can't leave it blank either. so i said to her, joe, my teacher and it said screw it right, muslim this year either and next year, serbian who was here today. i see myself as an agnostic. i feel bosnian and proud to belong to the group of others in bosnia and herzegovina hush, the stitches the postwar period has laughed at 25 years because the nap, as many things should have been resolved by novela. so start date, an agreement did in the walk or they put it in a way. it also put everyone in bosnia and herzegovina in china. and no one can change anything in the midst of your career. see manama if one ethnic group tries to change something in the stamina another, immediately invoked its nationalist interest in that keep attacking each other clearly and then claim they're defending us against the others with alina to mal entities. but in reality, it could, it could not,
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the politicians are still stealing countless millions and destroying the country from within the college she, they lie to us cheat and use our sites. and when i flush from what is left for us, good, i mean, nothing. i'm what do we have to day? perhaps a lutely. nothing. well wished book while amish. oh oh ah oh oh are you with a no more what is it? what is hell? go to you from. so he mother. oh, anyway, no. yeah,
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dina to with a a, a thing totally before. i don't know anything, nothing. my mother kind of thing before. no. i mother it we thought didn't. okay. did they want to give you was really specific. okay. oh, i think you need to think in so much my, my mom, my family would be pushing a little cold here. she's logan a call who to talk with
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. mm hm. ah ah okay. nobody can. is it possible you can do this? why does the past wait so heavily on the buck up sci fi? why does it happen that when the past appears, it interrupts and destroys everything with black and white. all these children we have seen suffering have to pay for the mistakes of their parents, grandparents and great grandparents. are we human such savages that we are incapable of living without violence?
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