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ah, ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin going head to head in france. president manuel micron faced a strong challenge from his far right opponent marine. the pen will have live coverage of the 1st round of the french presidential election. as the results come in, this is ah, i'm william croft, welcome to the program. we begin this special edition of
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d. w. news in france, where voting has just closed in the 1st round of the presidential election incumbent emanuel mock on looking to look to have an easy route to re election. that what is limited campaigning? a strong challenge from his main opponent marine le pen has narrowed the gap. there will be 12 candidates in total. you see these live pictures showing them from french television. duke, after the 1st round happening today, that top 2 finishers go on to. i run off in 2 weeks, you took usually the menu and michael and we can probably show you those results. now we're hearing at least initial estimates are that a manual micron has come out with 28 percent of the vote. that would put him just ahead and we have possibly with le pen at 23 percent of the vote. why don't we cross over right now to our correspondence in paris?
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we have no, i think we can show the results 1st good. all right, so as we were saying a manual micron with 28 point one percent to marine the pen 23.3 percent there of course other candidates here, but it's just the top 2 that go on to the 2nd round, the run off of voting this is initial preliminary results, according to the france to television station, again, 28 point one percent with a manual for a manual mark on the incumbent president and 23.3 percent for marina penn, his chief opponent the far right opponent there. now i think we can cross over to our correspondence. we have barbara vessel at mccomb party headquarters and lisa lewis in la pens, party headquarters. let's 1st turn to barbara marque crone supporters. how are they seeing this initial results? absolutely. what we hear here in the hall of course is absolutely jubilation,
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joy and huge relief because the whole steering the last days have really been relatively devastating far and mandarin wrong. and there was this tremendous fear among his party party. and of course, people voting for him and routing for him that marine le pen might possibly do it do 1st place, but it has not happened and a 5 point difference between 28 percent. promo crawl and 23 for is good enough to give them this support shed. give them know that they can really do it again in the 2nd, voted 2 weeks time that he now has enough of a mentor to kind of pick up the campaigning and really push people out to vote and dead. i tell them that he is still another 5 year is the right president. something
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that he had done enough during the last week said something that sort of was reflected in the cold here. lisa lewis over to you at la pens, headquarters are people disappointed there? well that really actually quite happy as you might be able to see behind me. they've been saying the mock say yes, the national and then, and we had him early in the day that that my call, i've le pen might be neck and neck in this 1st round. that seems to be untrue. and yet people, it seemed very happy for me to pan, has called top in the polls over the past few weeks, very far behind a few months back or early. and now people be about a bad candidate here that she could actually have a chance of winning the 2nd round of a thing. in the next, in 2 weeks, he had france barbara back over to you. how serious is the challenge to my call going into the 2nd round of voting?
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the challenge has now become somewhat smaller because there was a tremendous fear among it is party. and of course also the people around him is, is ministers and his closest aid that mary le pen might sort of come out of 1st, but was applied fondly. he, kate can sort of get momentum back because his big strategic mistake at the last, maybe 2 or 3 months was that he started his campaign very late. he saw he could set of come out as being the president and just be re elected for being the president. and that is something that the friends didn't take well to add to hall. he had this problem that people, again, were calling him arrogant, that they're calling him elitist, that he doesn't really step down out into the market. that in squares of the small french towns of a provincial france, something that marine le pen has done oh,
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relentlessly, it throws the last weeks and months that he doesn't go out and talk to people and listen to what they have to say to. so he has a sort of really done what they always call his jupiter and number. he has sort of tried to come from above and not give people the feeling that he really hears that man, that he really is close to them. but in the end, it seems that the political situation, even though during that campaign, most people always saying the buying power off their euro here in france is the most important thing for them. the current political creation was trading enough insecurity to sort of drive sufficient people back into his camp so that he had now has the rather healthy leads of for the 2nd round. lisa over to you. now marina pan has done better than many. the polls were showing how did she manage to get so many
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of these votes? several things helped urging this campaign. first of all, there was another fall, right? candidate called their exam or with a few months back. and with what he said, he seemed even further to the right. he had outright raise money, then he was announcing a crack down on muslim, wrecked down on crime in front. and van han, serena pe, marine append to appear in a very much alive, especially as she tried to not talk about all these controversial topics that might scale or something. right. even though that happened, and she was still not really leading and the policy was so far behind her a few weeks back. but then the war in ukraine broke on and it was the so called flag effect. and that meant that people who are running behind delita, that is a my, to my call in time before he gained in the polls. but reading the pen went down.
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but over recent weeks, that effect really waned up because people had felt that it might not call didn't enter the election campaign in time. and that he was very far right from the paper . i only have a few meetings, really one big meeting only in paris about a week ago. but really pen. meanwhile, she's been campaigning throughout france. she'd been going to cities to town to packet telling people that she was the candidate that would help them with their one number one priority, and that is spending power. it's barbara mentioned. he said that she would drop the goods for incense, so had the prices for invention, goods that she would do something about pipe fuel prices and that she was, as i said, the candidate close to the paper and she appeared a lot softer. although obviously her program remains the program of an extra candidate that is highly clinical. they barbara back over to you,
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we're 200-2002 election is shaping up a little bit like the 2017 election. what does a manual mark on need to do to ensure that he wins another term? he now really needs to go out and have his social, massive social media campaign. plus, he really needs to go out and campaign. he needs to get his hands dirty, and he just needs to go out and talk to people and give them a feeling that he does listen to them. and his record isn't that bad economic kelly has really managed to lower unemployment in france. something that has happened and many years, he has sort of increased investment in industries and he has generally, i mean, inflation in france at the moment is only 4.5 percent less than in germany and other european countries. he has had a really good it relatively god corona pandemic. he manage that quite well. so he
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has a lot of positive pines, but he did sell them to the people and he does need to do that. now he and he really needs to go out and so to show himself not as this god like person sitting in the palace i. it is still to death. but he really needs to go out to people and talk like a human being. he can do that, he has that talent, but he just needs to do this now urgently. and then he can carry a 2nd round. because if you look at the votes for the other parties, it was a huge chunk around 20 percent voting for hog left. mellow, shaw, a candidate who is sort of come up year. so some of those villages he can lure back to his camp so that he can, of course, yet some of the green those he can get this another bit that is left of the traditional conservative vote. this bit of a white board for valerie take press, the party is not highlighted. and so he can, he needs to collect those thoughts actively,
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and then he can do it. she can manage it because this 5 point difference is good enough to sort of give him momentum. and he really needs to work now is something that she hasn't done throughout the last month or 2. and that was probably is the biggest strategic strategic mistake. so that's maybe some campaign prescriptions for the my con campaign lee. so same thing for the pan. she has quite an uphill battle here. what would she have to do to actually beat him in the 2nd round? what i think, what she will do is try to continue to appear as a candidate that can speak to the french people in the street minute behind that soft image image is obviously a very extreme program. one example is that if she got to higher power, she would hold a referendum to basically and shined what she called national priority in the constitution to the constitution in france. that would mean that french people, you know, because of that not nationality. they were good access pro to access to the whole
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thing at to job to things like health care. so the bridge very principle of equality that was enshrined and the friends constitution transported after the $7089.00 revolution that would no longer exist. the very idea of human rights would no longer be valid in france, because obviously these human rights are nobody valid. but everybody, no matter that nationality. and by doing that, she would go against the rent about in the current principal and the current french monitors, but also on the european lebanon that would possibly likely mean to a rec, said an exit out of your opinion. and all that night, she will try to hide in these 2 weeks. you talk about how it is she will help the friends to make ends meet policy will block fuel prices, how she will reserve national public tend to french companies, and that she will use protection to make the both earn more money in fraud and to
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make it easier for them to make ends meet i. that's lisa lewis at the le pen headquarters and barbara vessel at the mall con ed quarters. thank you very much for your work in shouting out over that noise behind you and did correspond. maria strauss is in central paris, where people are watching results of the elections. marina. do people seem surprised by the result? what are they? what do they sing? william, i wish the da left wing cafe. a cafe though. it's very well known for it's for gathering laughing waters and you can to see it behind me. people are standing there outside the cafe and still discussing their results. and i was in there when the results were announced or at 8 o'clock at 1st they said in my room i crawled, then they said marilla pen and then they said she knew camilla shaw. so the far left candidate and when they said to 20 percent for him, there was a bit of her ha,
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so people were really disappointed and because many of them left in voters, i hoped that he would make it into the 2nd round. i talked to a couple of them, there was a young woman and she said, yes, she is disappointed. of course, there were the polls and they couldn't expected, but everyone was still hoping for a, a, a, a macro. john, to come along shore battle in the run of vote in 2 weeks. but of course this now it likely won't be the case. so the left is out marconas done a little bit better than what the latest polls were looking at. but le pen still performed well tonight. what does that tell us about? all right, politics and france. at the moment. it is very clear that only pen perform better than 5 years ago. 5 years ago she had m to present
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appoint less. and there was also another far road candidate in the race or alex moore. he only got an estimated 7 percent about 7 percent of the votes. so that is not a large, but if you added up, it's still a lot of people who in france, who wrote for pirates for extreme candidates. so you can clearly see that there is an interest in far candidates. and as lisa pointed out a bit earlier, mary lou, penn has tried to come across as the more mad moderate candidates in the last couple of years, she tried to polish her image. she tried to talk to people, she tried to present yourself as the candidate for the working class for the lower middle class. someone who understands the source of, of, of these people. and she, she seems, or she seems to be someone who's an hour, is called vo trouble, but it still seems likely that micro will make it in the 2nd round. marina ross out
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there on the streets of paris for us. thanks very much. and let's bring it back to the studio. now i'm joined by did a full of horsepower manual shares with more analysis on this election. and what it means for outside of france here in germany. first of all, why does this election matter to germany? well, the good when you think about europe, the 1st thing that comes to mind when you live either in france or in germany is the french german capo. and if this doesn't work out well, there's a problem, you know, at the head of the european union and the, you know, the tandem between far as the money and my call and go, america had worked out quite well despite some differences of opinions to the future. of europe, for example, and now the tandem with all our shows have also, you know, been quite coherent and of course be selection matters because you're not going to have the same. the same understanding between the 2 countries. my independent to become francis president. right? so let's get into that. what does the relationship look like if it's
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a mac on presidency versus l. a pen presidency? well, this will be the difference between your a fire presidency, which is that of him under my call and you are kept the presidency, which would be dots of machine the pen. my pen has so far and not really advertised her her wishes for a frank. this is an exit france from the european union, but if you look at her program, she doesn't have a lot of words for the european union. and she's all about protection isn't a friend, frances sovereignty, and not really any european ideas. she's a euro skeptics. she has, as she had campaigned in the past on dots and she had tried to tony down as, as these i was saying. so she would appeal to most voters, but that will be the, the difference between a unify presidency which will be done in my new my crime. you with kathy presidency, which will be that tough money. and then, of course, how we view these candidates outside of france is very different than how they're viewed domestically. can you get into that more for us, obviously, voters,
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they're see things very differently than us here. definitely, and i know my call has international or which he said he has a not in funds in france. he's not really popular. he's seen us. barbara visa was saying he does a quite a morgan's mom who doesn't want to talk to, you know, people he doesn't deem interest or for him ross abroad. and he's the mom, he's the euro 5, he's the man of the this call of the sub on the sub, on the speech he gave on the future of europe and the future of france in the european union in 2017. he's also demanded who could talk to donald trump and donald trump for president. he's the man who happened to the very last moment wanted to talk to vladimir putin before russia invaded ukraine. whereas marian lopez is quite popular at home. i mean, we've seen the quote to a french people who are quite happy to see her as a possible president. she's not so popular, at least in western europe. it's
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a different story in eastern europe. she's very popular with other us skeptics within the european union. but for example, you were asking how she's seen outside the little vote. we haven't mentioned that yet. she was quite embarrassed. a month ago, a little over a month ago when russia invaded ukraine, because in her campaign program where she put a picture of herself with letting me put in to show that she was timing on the international phase. needless to say, these program didn't stay long for the distributed, you know, there's a lot the, the pre k for the best type of program. so we're not going to distributed that she's tried to distance distance it from doc international, the med, she wanted to get definitely some bad timing, maybe for the french election this war in ukraine. you mentioned that mccall has played a central role when it comes to negotiations. and it comes to dealing with lighting, recruit, and how has the war effected this campaign? it has deeply insurance this campaign simply because there was near to no campaign
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because of the war. my name, i thought it campaign very, very late. he was clearly the so the so stating he's role of the french president and re presenting friends abroad to doubt of he's, he's was of candidate and bob i have is, i was mentioning that maybe that has been reproached to him that he assumed, you know, he's electra would just follow without him campaigning. i think there's a little bit more to that. he's a president in the middle of the global conflict. he did have as tough to attend. you know, they were there was a priority. of course, the political, the, the presidential campaign is very important, but when you have the door, the will out the door of europe obviously had some serious business to, to attend. and not only ukraine, there's just so many issues that the german french relationship has to deal with. how do those policies change if we have, i'm a con presidency or the pen presidency. well, i think we're going to see what happens after the 2nd round. what,
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what would be really interesting to see is the position of the 2 candidates when it comes to, to run the friends independent energetically, and also how they will, how, how they will deal with that together with germany. we know that gemini had any criticize for not wanting, and he made it embargo on, on a russian fossil fuel and rush and gas. it has started, you know, to, to tony, down a little by accepting a face out exit from the russian, russian, coal, and russian oil. but the core of the matter is russia. gov. and of course, again, depending on who is other him in france, it would be very interesting to see how he was at your level knowing of money. and then even if she has, if knowledge dots, the russian invasion was, was not right. she has never said anything bad about letting me put in which she for use called a friend very interesting times, especially if you are
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a politician running for office manual. shes here in the studio with me. thanks very much for that analysis. thank you. and let's get that european perspective over in brussels with our correspondent jack barrack jack. how is brussels watching this election? hopefully it will stick streaming closely here in the courses of the european union where france plays a huge role in all of the negotiations. among the use 20 member, 27 member states will say, i think there's been a slightly muted sense of interest. firstly, because of how late micron announced his candidacy is re candidacy. and secondly, because of the war in ukraine, which is obviously consumes the political new cycle. the political messaging, the political site here in brussels. but there is a sense, and i think this were this result from the 1st line that shows actually a bigger spread between a manual micron. i'm reading the pen than we saw back in the elections of 2017
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there's. there's no question that the institutions of the european union would prefer re elected president under a manual micron. they will not tell you that there's never going to be an official position. but marine, the pen is also known entity haven brussels. she saw as an m b b for a long time, and her and t u storms is clearly well known. the question is, what would that presidency look like? as you, as you were saying, what would a marine the pen president the actually look like. if she did win in that 2nd round, and after talking to jap are looking at live pictures from headquarters, i believe we're going to be waiting for remarks from a manual micron. but while we're waiting for him, let's talk a little bit about france and the e rotating presidency. it, it, it, it is the you president right now has that chair that gives francis a bigger role on the european stage. does that play into french politics at all? i think it is certainly plays a big role in the, in the e u. and we've seen,
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you know, a lot of the meetings of the ministers of ny taking place in some of the, some french cities. and obviously there's been some big events in paris, but i think the reality is, is that actually what that's done is just consolidated the french position as quite a lead, negotiate in the u anyway. and as i say, the political sort of fear the political move that has, has happened, has been completely dominated by, by the war in ukraine. i think though, when we look a manual microns french presidency over the last 5 years, he has had some successes. you'll remember, you know, as part of the present as part of the pandemic crisis response and manual micromanaged essentially to persuade german chancellor van, german, trans wrangler. michael, to collect together to allow the european commission, the executive arm of the you to go out on the international markets and raise money for him. a man that has proposed and i'm really pushed for
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a you financial integration. that's sort of a big success here in europe. i don't know how well he's actually been able to sell that to the french voters, or how much they, they actually care about that william. you mentioned a, some of those are what the pandemic response, for example, marconas has really thrown down the gauntlet when it comes to what, what the e, when even nato can do, how have these major western institutions change throughout my cons? first term, what might they look like if he gets a 2nd? well, i think that that idea of the financial getting the european commission to raise money on the financial markets. that was a massive, massive stat. we don't have too much of a clear policy from, from his election having, i mean, i think he wants to take a hard line on foreign policy. as we've seen. he's tried to play that friend to vladimir putin, ahead of ahead of the invasion of ukraine. he was on the phone with him many, many times and now he's had to sort of repositioned himself or after,
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after what became a sort of awkward position for him in the european union. but one thing i, one thing i will say, i think he's considered here in brussels as, as, as, as a known entity of one of the big e u. member states. i mean, so much has happened since that election in 2017 and, and also what we've seen is the end of a huge error of german talks than german talks. lang in america, leaving and left shows while he's already sort of working his way through the european kinds of when the institutions here. he's still not quite the sort of solid fixed entity that we saw on the german chancellor under angular medical. so the question is, you know, how does it a 2nd presidency for a manual micron? how would that fit, he would obviously have a lot more power, a lot more pro s, as, as a politician. and if in the 2nd round, he does potentially get beaten by marine the pan. what would that mean? i mean, that would be a huge, huge shift in thinking in one of the use biggest member states. and that would
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change quite a lot of things. there's a lot of stake here in this french election for the european union. well, actually, what i think is interesting is what's happened as far as i've seen from, from the perspective in brussels, is that the campaigning has been far more domestic actually. and from berlin to brussels, we will surely be watching all of it. jap. eric, thanks very much rain at us. and while we're waiting for my car to speak, let's turn to the other big news. and that's of course, to warn ukraine. ukraine and russia have agreed on humanitarian corridors to evacuate thousands of civilians. eastern regions of ukraine are bracing for a new russian offensive. more than 100000 people are believed to be trapped in the city of maria poll, which has been under intense bombardment for weeks. local officials have said as many a 5000 civilians may have been killed in that city. craniums are fleeing the eastern donvan region, which has been partially controlled by russian back separatists since 2014. now,
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satellite images show a convoy of hundreds of russian military vehicles heading for that on bus region, which is making the evacuation of civilians. all the more urgent. earlier we asked our correspondent rebecca readers who's in the vive to update us about what's happening in the husk region. well, we are starting to see come to fruition what we've been expecting, the regrouping of russian troops and the, the pivot towards to focus on the south east of the kind of ukraine and that south and the ac, including lou hands and, and yet because you just mentioned the hans it's, it's prompted a more strong the effort to get people out of their hans governor has has basically told everyone to get out while they still can i, unfortunately not everyone is hating that warning. there were still apparently 30 percent of people staying in law. hans, i actually met a guy, i was reporting down in the region close near there, and i spoke to
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a gentleman at the train station and he, he broke down and he is as he was describing to me that some of his friends from the la hans and danielle region were actually choosing to stay that already lost everything in the battle in 2014 and they weren't gonna leave again. they said if the russians come in, they just kind of fight them. and he was really obviously very upset. i mean everyone has seen the pictures from are you paul, as you just mentioned, and also around keith, in boucher and nobody wants those kind of atrocities happening to their towns and villages. william directly are also in the pro another cities from central eastern ukraine. and it's become something of a hub, a for internally displaced ukrainians. what did you see there? well, in the pro is a transport hub in that region. it services the south and the south east. we were at the train station doing some reporting yesterday, and we saw thousands of people evacuating thousands of people have already come
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through there and they are expecting thousands more. the situation of course, was pretty tant yesterday because it was just shortly after a day after the bombing at the train station in crime tours, which was just 200 or so kilometers from ne pro. so authorities were on really high alert there yesterday really worried that a similar attack might take place there. a lot of the people i spoke to just work had come from the, the regions that we're speaking about those la hans kind of done yet regions, but they just had no idea where they were going to end up. there is a shelter there. people are providing support for the people that come through there, but they're not really able to stay in the pro either. the, the mayor of ne pro has ordered all women and children to leave the area because they're worried that the fighting is going to also reach that city. it's difficult to imagine just what people are facing, as they're trying to find some semblance to safety in ukraine. and you saw some of that traveling back to lose eve, where you are now by train, which a lot of people are using. what kind of experience should you have, what,
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what kind of people did you come across on that journey? well, it was an incredibly bittersweet experience, really. i mean, you see a relief in some faces better on the other side, you see the sadness that having to leave people behind you. so we saw, you know, people, we were on the train with waiving to their loved ones on the platform who were both relieved that their relatives were getting to safety. but obviously not knowing when or if they're going to see them again. so obviously, i know there was a lot of sadness on the train. the journey itself was relatively normal. i'm in ukraine. railways have been doing an amazing job of keeping this country, going the civilian effort, both by getting aid into places that desperately need it, as well as bringing people out of those hotspot areas. there were a couple of amendments if you will. the blinds needed to be closed for the entire journey at night when the soon as the sun went down, the blinds had to be closed so that you're less visible from the sky. and the train also travels at a much slower pace. it took almost twice as long as the normal journey. because if
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anything does happen, you have any kind of shelling or anything like that. the trend needs to be able to stop to evacuate. the passengers. credible details there. rebecca, thank you so much. rebecca. rebecca ritter speaking to us from movies in western. great. and let's get some other developments regarding the war in ukraine. austrian chancellor car namor is the, is to meet the russian leader vladimir putin and moscow will be the 1st european leader to do so. since the invasion of ukraine may, homer has been in cave, where he offered humanitarian aid and political support. the airport in ne pro, ukraine's 4th biggest city has been badly damaged by russian missile attacks. that's according to the local governor. the columns of smoke could be seen around the airport. a grave continue, at least 2 civilians has been uncovered in both sofa, a village near keith. the latest burial site identified since russian forces
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withdrew from the area to concentrate their fighting in eastern ukraine. pope francis is called for an easter ceasefire in ukraine in his 1st full palm sunday mass since the start of the pandemic. the pope's old, $50000.00 catholic faithful, that an armistice would pave the way for peace through negotiation. against the backdrop of the war in ukraine, germany is marking the anniversary of the liberation of the book involved concentration camp at the end of world war 2. all cost survivors and jewish leaders gathered to remember not see crimes that were committed there. during the holocaust american forces liberated the camp in april 1945 representatives of russia and belarus were asked not to attend the memorial. after a russian attack in ukraine killed a holocaust survivor. our political correspondent, thomas sparrow, filed this report from the camp. the atmosphere is always heavy,
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always difficult in full manase concentration comes like this. one my group and about 280000 people from all over europe was sent here by the nazis 56000 people were killed. and the atmosphere to day is even more difficult because events here had wooten by have been overshadowed by the wool in ukraine. camp survivors have condemned the russian invasion of ukraine. and in fact, russian government officials were on invited to ceremonies here in book invite on. this also has to do with the death of bodies romance, jenko, 96 year old. he survived full concentration camps including foreign vide, but was killed in the ukrainian city of hockey. in march, therefore, it is particularly important that participants here today in bougainville renewed a pledge for
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a world in peace and freedom. as we've been reporting incumbent emanuel marconas emerged as the winner of the 1st round of the french presidential election. initial projections put back on at 28 percent of the vote. his main challenge or the far rights marine, the pen trails with 23 percent. now both contenders will go forward into the 2nd round in 2 weeks time. 10 other candidates from different parties of the political spectrum have been eliminated. and we can get more on all of that with our dw correspondent barbara hazel, who's standing by microns party headquarters. so barbara micron facing far right le pen in the runoff election. what you're going to do to rally support of the supporters of all the other candidates who didn't make it through. and we just heard the discussion of party representatives of all the parties that i
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had been running during the selections in the background here. and do with somebody from the left to said he needs to step down from his pedestal and really campaign. and that is something that probably he has by now understood because in his advisors must have told him this is the very last moment that he really has to go out and get close to the french people. we have also, during the last minutes heard that he has got to endorsement. he has got the endorsement from valerie b. kress who failed miserably was under 5 prison. her task had been to revive the conservative dish. no french conservative party. i couldn't manage it at all. but then she just came out and said, i have wanted more, but i failed. and now please everybody put their vote to my problem because we have to block the far right. and we heard the same from also around 5 percent from the
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greens. and because they also said he would, he was the only candidate to where climate and did green issues have insurance at all. and we have to block the far right. so things are sort of moving his way. and also if you look at the whole, at panorama parties here as something that is very interesting is that the extreme fall ride fire bread. do these have several times as a tried as a hate free show, eric, the more it came out with about $6.00 to $7.00 present only that is about half what he had at a point in his election campaign. it shows that the extreme right in france seems not quite as strong as predictions during the campaign had b, so many lip and get those additional votes from that she needs, they probably don't exist and things seemed to be turning more in the direction of
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emanuel mac. wrong, i barbara vessel, thanks for standing by. we'll be back with you. when the con speaks a little later, let's turn over to the le pen headquarters where our lisa louis is standing by. lisa marina, and she was just addressing that crowd alive. what was her main message while she's basically saying that she wants to talk to every french person in this country, that people should forget about their party affiliation. just remember that she is the candidate of the people. now that's obviously on the line of her main tragedy. in this campaign, she has been trying to tell people that she's the candidate that will give them more money in their pocket that will block a prices for basic goods in france and how her make and have them make ends need. and that is, as you know, them top priority of the french majors in this election campaign. and she said, you know, we need to look at this as a run of vote in 2 weeks time. and we need to get our strength to win
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a fight. and so she might not have done as well as she was hoping, but she did better than many people thought. how did she manage to get the votes that she did? well, 1st of all, you know, she really did the leg work. she went from town to town, from market to market for, from city to city in france for months she talked to people and was right quite close to them really. and she dropped all the controversial messages. you know, the tough anti immigration stands. that really is she talked about that, that was, that was not her main message. meanwhile, there was another factor. eric another. all right, candidate that seems even further to the right. them really pen. why with. and so now
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with another case that you know, the ukraine fact that is people a my, my hall, he went up 7 points in the polls and the pen went down to because she's known to be quite close. that's been quite close to putin in the past. and to even have received financing from russian bank for a campaign this time around last time around. and she actually went down the post post, but then that had an adverse effect because in my, my call did not enter the campaign for a long time, really at the last minute only anything that has canvass the candidacy, the only health a few meetings where it's marina can continue to do the leg work, and that's how she gained in the polls again because people felt that she was talking to them directly about club seemed quite disconnected from day to day reality. and from hi lisa lewis, they're competing with
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a lot of chanting behind her. we'll let you leave it there. thanks very much for the latest. from the pens headquarters. i'm back in a studio now with me. is it a little hoarse bonding manual shares with the bigger picture? i feel a little bit like we're having deja vu to borrow a french expression. 2017. we saw pretty much the same thing. how does this election in 2022 stack up to what we saw in 2017? well, i think these are like 100 friends. we see the banter of having the rights come into power a bit closer and you see the margins between the candidate narrowing of the selection. and this is a worry that we've seen here in germany with the last 2 elections with the a i d party, the party, the right thing, party here in germany. and it's, it's interesting to see how this was perceived back, then aware the rest of europe and especially in france, everybody was panicking was seeing that the far right was entering the german
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parliament once again, knowing that the last time was actually before world war 2. and actually when we look at about happening in france, we've seen a steady rise of the far right and my lip and has the underscore shells on tonight, which is already almost a quarter of the electro who would see, would like to see her as a candidate but they were, they were even to far i candidates in france and the far right is really more important or present actually in france than it is in germany. so that would be something that i, i would find quite interesting to see the 3rd of the far right. why is because it's such a pop, it isn't all across all around the globe at the moment, but in france is particularly strong. and in manner macro has also lost a lot of phase of his electors of 2017 to the far right. that's another point that is not worth the connection. french politics is known for being feisty.
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it's hard for president sustained power and is to continue their support. what would him a con 2nd term mean for him? this would be somewhat historic. i think, what i think he's, he's, he has overcome pandemic. he has handled the pandemic. those were already difficult times. now he's probably going to focus on external policies with the war in ukraine, so a lot of foreign policy to do for him on your medical and should he be elected for a 2nd term manual show. thanks very much. and to give you a latest on where we're at with the 1st round of voting in france, the incumbent manual marconas emerged as the winner in that 1st round, initial projections. putting my con at you can see it right there. 28 percent of the vote. with his main challenger the far right marine le pen trailing at 23 percent. now that means both containers will go forward into the 2nd round of
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