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tv   REV Special  Deutsche Welle  April 10, 2022 9:30pm-10:01pm CEST

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is inflation is price is a, the price of energy and, and everything else has completely taking a 2nd step back in relation to that. and this is sort of taking a back seat. now, what he reads to do much wrong is relate to that. he needs to speak to people and tell them i'm your president. i and i hear you. i see what your problems are. and even though i mc wrong thing, that this war in ukraine and the, what russia does, there is a putting putting european security under under strain. it said the most important political development and the most stressful political development in the last decades. if the french don't feel it, he can sell it to them. so he has to come down to the level of yes, we've need to talk about your salaries. we need to talk about inflation. we need to talk about the energy prices. i need i, as president, need to talk about how i can make your future better in the next 5 years. and so
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that is his task. how much he prefers to play the peacemaker with school in an attempt to sort of sort of show that he has a sway on the international stage. these elections, like most elections, are one with small the issues the every day issues that of concern to french voters . and he really has to recognize that. and so to work on that. all right, barbara hayes, we're going to leave it there for now. we'll probably get back with you shortly while we're waiting for manuel. my call on to take the stage. thanks very much for that for now. and let's bring it back into the studio, not with a mental macklin, but with a manual chase. who is mark dw correspondent, looking at things here from germany. we just heard from barbara that, you know, it's the small issues that voters care about. but obviously here in germany, we see things very differently. we seem a con, very differently. what kind of role does market play from a german perspective?
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and i think are from the german perspective, the manner in my car is mr. europe and even more so, since angle america is no longer a japanese chancello. he has a, you know, taken her place at the helm of the european union. and of course here does this election is followed. was a very strong interest because there's a 2 candidates that are opposed to each other, especially when it comes to their vision of the place of france in europe. and you see emmanuel macro being a, you are a 5 presidential candidates and amanda ben being absolutely euro skeptic, even these are just like lisa lewis was saying, just like barbara visa was also mentioning she has turned in and it turned it down since 2017, she saw that she ow so a you know, lost support to more of you know, the stronger as she voice her anti european opinions there are still here down not
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just not so visible as before in my in the band has tone down her her image oh, so you know her have fall rides with tariq else on didn't international stage 5 years ago. she was presenting us advice at puddings. friend, obvious it is, doesn't go down quite well in france or so for her electro aide to, as she can condense invasion of ukraine by russia. but she felt sure it was condemning at the action of russian president. so this is perhaps something that us causes some votes, so mock on did pull out ahead with a fairly strong or strong rubin or some people worried about in this 1st round. nonetheless, there still, as you mentioned, lot of your skepticism, a lot of populace waterford sentiment in france. we already see that in poland and hungary, in other parts of the european union. what does that fall right sentiment? that bureau, skeptic sentiment in france, due to european solidarity am the kind of the kind of the kind of european union
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that the wants to be. well, the son of the far right in europe and in europe, actually as a whole, faith, the fun nations of europe can save the order of europe. it's its influence so, so you know, a blow out a european values. if you look at the program of my lip and its soul about being anti immigration, she doesn't want, as i loom requests to be preceded in france, for example, this goes against the french constitution. this goes against european values. and this, you know, just different vision of europe. you mentioned also the eastern european countries money up and visited them during several years. and she also gets funded not least by, by russia. so you can see this learning between the size of the population in europe and alliances. today, more than ever are more than questionable, you know,
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the 5000000 live ended and can then open me vladimir putin. this time at this hour when we see what's happening in ukraine, probably also didn't bring her mo votes, more voters in her back to night. when mac han came to power 2017, he had a lot of hopes for the european union, a lot of hopes of the relationship with germany and kind of disappointed mclaren a little bit angle, american not really playing ball with him all the time on these big grand designs were making the european and stronger. what if he, if he wins again? what might he get out of all our shots, the chancellor now from germany, that he didn't get with angle america. well, i think that the difference doesn't shift in power that happened in, in any case. first, when my call came to power, angle america was still at the home of the, of germany. very much so, you know, in, in europe and then things have shifted. he was seen as
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a bit of an aged agitator who was going a bit too far for germany. done. he managed to impose some things that germany could never have dreamt of. you know, come on a, come on e, you budget or to tackle the pandemic for, for example, all the things that germany would previously or have refused to do, macro managed to convince angle america to do them. now the power, the balance of power is a bit different, are all actual her, her is freshly elected. allah chelsea, so so widely criticized at the moment for a japanese attitude toward sanctions against russia in the ukraine. it was so emanuel macro, in that sift of power, it is a gaining momentum. and of course that would be very interesting to see if he is re elected into his time. if that a balance of power keeps that way. and we're looking at live pictures of mark on headquarters were he should be showing up any moment now, but until he does one more question for you on this. in this notion of balance of power, france has long been the one military power in the european,
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the only nuclear weapons state. since the united kingdom left. after breaks it, germany is now stepping up and may soon have the largest defense budget in the european union. what is that due to the european security and to that balance of power that you're speaking? while i think there's still cedar to country is being very much are a leading, you know, a dance if you will, especially when it comes to what the e u. a has a, you know, a can do to help or ukraine, because we're talking about ukraine or right now because of the war. even in france or used to be, you know, more developed when it comes to its army. germany is stepping up right now. and this is defense is not what is reproached right now or to germany when it comes to the you to do a ukrainian war. it's more at the fact that she does it great. she doesn't. germany doesn't an embargo on russia gas. it would be quite interesting to see in which
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direction micro will push for more sanctions towards russia and also even more interesting. what would be chem and his reaction, right? so if we're looking at a re, at a 2nd term of a manuel mac on what does that look like? what are the challenges left to face? i mean, the european union faces many, many challenges when it looks west, when it looks east, when it looks just within itself and germany and france being 2 major powers have a lot to say about that. they have a lot to say and they will have a lot to taco be trans, be germany. we just come out of nearly 3 years and they make this has left its mark so so on the economy, we face the ukranian war. it's really not far. we only hear in brandon, we only a few hours drive away from the ukraine and border. it really is not that far. and i think both from for germany and for france, which is a bit further away on the map. this is going to be the major issue for the month,
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the years to come right now says we're going to leave it there for now. i'm sure going to coming back to you, but let's start over to our brussels correspondent as we are still waiting for a mental micron, the man of the hour to speak. i bet jack is also waiting for that as we all are. so i can just ask him, what is the view of this election from brussels? well, everyone's watching closely. of course, for the i'm really interesting what a manual was having to say thereabouts. the sort of structures in the balances of power with her left shouts. i think she's, she's right, there's a lot of questions about what this will mean. how much pressure the french president, the next fresh french president will try and put on the german chancellor. specifically that issue regarding gas min. i think the, the suggestion in brussels is that the idea of sanctions in the, and germany being the stick on in the mud, specifically on the issues of energy. that would have happened. even under wrangler makeover angler macro. at a much more consolidated position here in brussels. and i think any new that any
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french president, if it is a manual micron that returns off the 2nd round, will feel emboldened to push the german chancellor on those kinds of issues. i think here in brussels and the elections haven't taken too much precedent regarding everything that's been happening. the foreign policy issues specifically wrote regarding the war in ukraine. we just saw the u commission president us live on the line, had to key for instance. these are the things that have been dominating the headlines here in brussels. but now there will be a focus on exactly what happens. we know now who will be in that 2nd mind. it will be a manual micron, a pro, a you politician who wants further you integration specifically on the economy issues and finance issues. marina pan, who famously sat in the european parliament with the euro skeptic group. so we, we know that once this sort of 2nd round of election plays out and we know that it's going to be really interesting to hear what a manual micron says in the speech. actually. because as we've heard through
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a lot of our reporting, he hasn't done as much campaigning as perhaps he has him. and he did in the last election. and this to this 2 week period between the 2 ryan's knife, all eyes will be on exactly what he has to say. especially here in brussels. people looking what he has to say about the european union. and you see those flags being waves, european union, and french flags, as, as is a manual mark on our waiting. and we are waiting jack, tell me, you know, we haven't really talked a lot about climate change. here is one of the big issues that every one of course is facing. the european unit has a lot of plans. where does a manual? my con, come down on this, just like here in germany, it's obviously a very sensitive balance between making that shift to green energy, but also gas prices. we saw the, the yellow vest protest movement that really hurt my calling early into in his 1st term. where, where does he kind of position himself as he looks to a hopeful 2nd term for him? well, one of the interesting things when you talk about that is the, the big difference between germany and france regarding the nuclear issue. emanuel
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micron has consistently, you know, and french, you know, the french governments before him as well, heavily invested in euclid and intend to continue with that. in fact, they pressured so hard during the negotiations for the proposals around the use around the european union's proposals regarding climate change. and this was who the 55 package and an outline of trying to get emissions down in it before 2030. what they managed to do is to get nuclear considered to be sort of green energy so that that could be sort of ring fence as part of the funding there. and that was a big success as well. for the french president, the questions will be around exactly how we go forward from those. those for those proposals are working their way through the european union's long and arduous structures. you remember the, the paris climate accord was obviously signed in paris. it's considered a sort of big success of french diplomacy,
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of the previous president or francois lawns. so. so a manual micro definitely feels like he's sort of taken up the mantle on that with it being the parents climate good. but there is a long way to go before those proposals sort of really get into action here in the european union. and there's a lot of negotiating. and again, a lot of that comes down to that franco, german access. and the other big issue of course, long term is china. everyone's focused on ukraine and russia right now. but the e. u has a big policy, a big policy questions to face when it comes to china. how did the outcome of this french election possibly impact that? it's really tough, one, the friends of all so frequently especially, you know, up until about maybe 510 years ago. had sort of quite warm relations with the chinese were considered a sort of chinese landing point into the european union. there was a lot of projects that was sort of going on with chinese companies overseas. now, the ukraine crisis is completely shifted everything and there's
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a lot of pressure from western powers on china to sort of a. so any pressure, they cannot moscow to get this to get this war ended. it's a difficult balancing act as far as foreign policy goes in. and the european union also has some pretty stringent and strict trade complaints against china as well. and the french president is very aware of that. has that she campaigned quite strongly and been quite spoken on on those issues as well. i jack perez, we're going to leave it there with you for now in brussels. thanks very much for the latest from there and we're going to turned back to barbara hazel. we are all still waiting for president manuel icon to take the stage. what is the atmosphere there? are they as supporters, there is as much dissipation as we are here waiting for my own to come speak. not, not so shouting and yelling here and chanting, i think people, his supporters in this whole, they finally want to see him. and basically he's supposed to be in the building
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because we can use motor grade enter. this is the, the big entrance of this convention center. so he should be here presently. but if i may pick up on something that a bit earlier when you asked her about the challenges for is 2nd presidency a 2nd round. i mean, his 1st round has been difficult. as you mentioned, we had the yellow vessels and then viet corona, and then yet the war in ukraine. so he was sort of really a sort of credit crisis in constant crisis. and a are the yelling sort of gets more intense. are you shaking hands outside of the doors at the entrance of all the year. but the 2nd presidency could become even more difficult because he has to contend with the probably in economic situation all over europe. that is going to get worse. he has to contend was rising energy prices, and the french are
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a difficult people to govern. they are contrary. and so he really will have to work to keep them on side. and i think there he finally is. yes, he has reached the rodeo, and you can see how is the borders are waiving european flag and french flags at the same time? because europe is really so close to his heart and is such a central point of his policies. so he is really being fair to now because there was a fear there was a real and live fear that marine le pen might surpass him, might get the 1st place. but he has made it was a credible 5 percent difference, and he's going to speak now. good. thank you her lucy would mean, you know, even from is a mood. thank you. my friend, the circle, but they are messy. my dear fellow french citizens. thank you
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mr. colberg with medium fellow french tillman. so good man, i got it from france overseas, and mar, fraud is a sunday. 10th of aidan leinberger thompson in northern 36000000 and you use their right to to work on keep on it. and it was from the right that the previous generations concord is the right to vote. and i would like to thank all our hello frenchmen and women who and as far as round. oh, my god, voted me a farmer. lumpkin not their trust. zod will give you a trust. my love mobility is an honor for me as a duty from me and commits me over all of a little while you can count on
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a name proposal. i am going to carry out the progress. isadore project of progress will appear for french and european independence that we defended during our come hey, i didn't see. i would also like to thank that the food all his own off in a little while. some of them are here to nature. danielle good during the last years gave us on my journey, were everywhere on the friends or territory, what they gave your energy, your work if we knew your days and your name and i know how much i owe you. thank you. ah!
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isabel instantly got busy going in. i would like to call on all over you have committed for 6 years already and until tonight to work with i believe to get over there never answers and come together in a big program of political unity for our country. this is cedric, i would like to send you all all the candidates. i ferguson, rod, natalie after nicola, a dupont in young mann edo gall jenny again needed adel zohler salzar last sale is all in middletown ligman r song. valerie big cursor, video feed, he put to february, 3rd february seller food rule, and it,
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is no one at the end of the room. i would like to thank and you know, gore yanagishta model are valuable, closer and fabulous or hair already endorsed to me tonight jazzy eggs, sullen and mer, and i would legacy to solemnly inside the soil saucy, our fellow citizens. if, if it had ever their convictions or choices in this house round, ours are to come. join us that don. this is a member of our family, are going to do it in order to just sit down in the far right bed until i know that this is not blowing to be an endorsement of my projects. and i oversee bagged on. i
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know of and for instance, john mcmillan saw has decided it like that is the route by the route. i would like to salute alejandro valero hawaii. people are searching the far right and the fact that we have to stop them middle, silverman, maddox, easy in this decisive moment. all of them you villainous father, future of our new leondard. what good grandmother, nothing can be as at wise. well, this friends and also that my, i would like to give my hand all of those one to work for francis leon. ready to invent something new. and i'm glad you in order to federal read, convict janice and a different sensibilities of it. who in order to build
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a do together a common action unless you're in the service of our nation, followed handling. yes, it's hard to a little comfort, theos, to all our fellow citizen is i left all school that will ever chose abstention or an atheist trembling for it because they are the angry because of persisting inequalities and are rooted insecurities of their everyday life. on the difficulty to live and dignity, even if you are a current order or more what? because if they dont feel represent at our listen to our associate liquefy, i would like to convince you have any in the coming days, what is it then? i'll try. j. andrews as my son in law close to their preoccupations, lay on the far right top. if you can count on
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that's not us your room. i want, and friends who go head is truthful. loyal you ruin fancy bella newman eastman. a lawyer. lou awesome for did he said sancho corvana our little song heritage from 70 to 89 shells. i mean, dear fellow citizens is unto friends. this is a little less wake on april 20 to fall off of the choices is only a for that you all have to make in 2 weeks by voting of the swath am to laid. i want to tell you, i am of over everything i can to vis or siri body that the only the shower j i know for purchasing power is our couldn't so close. you could only lee credible good sir, than a nod against the spelling class as ours,
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hulu son was in the all new car, joe. good, paul. and he should now 4 o'clock. everybody is all right. good. so what do you like the only protect for the not for france instead of europe as ours was our new i believe or not in us. all that's one of me to do wherever we come from, wherever we are going. us look there it was. no one ever or origin or territory in all of us. whatever our opinions or believes are all of us. that's france. oh, so you're on a go through avenue in the next 2 week gloomy natural organic voc, yahoo, yahoo for let us now. let us not see any efforts. we happened to be humble shack,
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julie shackleton, convinced every battle in port on april 25 for sweden. ready, b can choose a new levant, you're ugly and french, new period, and noble era. we can follow up on an april 20 shaw when can chew up friday and europe together midnight. blue long live the republic and long friends. i'm counting on ya. who is president emsella kong, who is hoping for a 2nd term speaking to his supporters there after the 1st round of voting in french presidential elections today was put him on top of that, making him one of the 2 candidates to go through the 2nd round, the other one of course being marina pen the his main far right challenger. let's
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go right to barbara basil who was in the room just now listening to a manual knock on very sweeping address. just then almost like a victory speech before the actual victory. what do you make of it? he is a great speaker, i mean his rhetoric is really carrying people away. at least he managed to do that in his hall, this hall with his supporters who are so overjoyed that he has made it again to have come out of this. first round of the election was a credible 5 point advantage. he was addressing really, it the voters who hadn't voted for him to vote is who given their vote to the extremes on the left, on the right. and he said, i understand you. so he's really trying to get to these people. i understand your problems are not earning enough money being afraid of rising prices and being afraid of.

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