[000:00:00;00] ah, this is dw news live from berlin. tens of thousands have been killed and the ukrainian city of mary old ball that's the estimate from ukrainian president, florida mirrors the lansky after more than a month of relentless shelling by russian forces on the 4th city. also coming up, you foreign ministers, meet in luxembourg to discuss further action against russia. the block remains divided on whether to impose the measures that would hurt moscow the most boycott

of russian oil and gas. ah, i'm abby, quite often welcome to the program. we begin this hour with the ukranian city that has seen the most intense fighting since the russian full scale invasion began. more than 6 weeks ago. tens of thousands are dad and mary or ball. according to the ukranian president vladimir zalinski speaking to south korean lawmakers, he appealed for more weapons to defend his country. the port city has been under relentless, russian bombardment for weeks. officials say much of mary, opal lies in ruins, and tens of thousands are trapped with little or no food and water. russia has said it will focus on eastern ukraine and intensive by it's military efforts there. our correspondent rebecca readers is standing by and lavette rebecca. the death toll is not fully clear,

but the ukrainian president zalinski has said its tens of thousands of people, and russia, as we know, is going to intensify it. the tax and the east of the country. what more can you tell us? that's right, abbey. it's hard to imagine how president zalinski is estimates could be very far off. i mean, if you think about the worst image as you've seen in war, the most devastating pictures coming out of any conflict, that is what's happening in mary paul since the beginning of this war, as you just reported, that city has been under constant russian bombardment and people have been living there without access to food, electricity, communication, and most crucially without access to any drinking water. people have been in there, we hear of been in their bunk has almost the entire time the ukrainians are defending that city. and that's creating even further bombardment. from the russian side a i'm so i could very how to get news out of mary paul. but i have spoken to a couple of people who escaped and they told me of their harrowing stories of

living under that siege. so hard to get out of that city. one doctor i spoke to told me that those same those horrific scenes we've seen in boucher once. we say what's happening a mary you poll. that'll be boucher times 10 both times 100 times 1000. so it's very hard to imagine that president salenti, unfortunately, that his estimates are very far off and we know about the millions of internally displaced. people like the woman that you're talking about, the doctor talk to us about the influx of people moving toward love it. where you are that's right. i am in love in the west of the country. now as you can probably see behind me, i mean this city is wild. there's definitely attention to the air in the city is on a marshal lower as well. it's definitely far from the scenes that we're seeing in the eastern parts of the country and therefore has become the relative safety area, the relevant error saying the internally displaced. people have found safety here

in levine, but thousands more now are evacuating the east. is the, the conflict seems to be ramping up there, particularly in the dawn bass and the southern regions, the port cities where mary mary poll, for example, i was just reporting in the south east of the country in a city called me pro and also ins, apparition where most people from merry who poll evacuate to, and they were just thousands of people terrified having no idea where they were gonna even go to. and you know, we were, we were talking to lots of people who said that they, that the seeds that they had left behind, which is horrific. i spoke to one gentleman at the train station who said that his friends didn't even want a label. or hans can done yet because they were so upset that they'd already been, they'd already lost everything in the war in 2014 and they just weren't going to do it again. they were gonna stick around and defend their cities. they, he did broke down in tears when he talked about it because, you know, everyone's worried that those things that we've seen out of butcher and that we sent out of mary paul that that's gonna happen in their homes and their cities and

towns rebec out. we know that russian troops invaded ukraine from russia. they did so from bella, ruth and now concern out of ukraine that russia may carry out operation from moldova does break away. trans mystery, our region. what more can you tell us about that? we don't have a lot of information on that abbey, but what i can tell you is the ukrainian military said that they are worried that russia will try an attack from the west through mold over an area known as trans mystery. and now they have, it's been controlled by russia since the 90s, and i have about 1500 troops stationed there. that they're worried that of course, it mold over is right next to the port city of odessa, which is a key target of the russian military. it sent me a city that they want to gain control off and so far the city has spared much bombardment at all. but with the change of direction of the conflict, that is definitely going to say, wrapping up all shelling and bombardment. they're worried that the if the soldiers from the west,

through moldova could make soldiers coming from the sea and from the east, and therefore encircled ukrainian troops that had been trying to defend that port city. now, you know, russia has denied claims that they are going to do anything like that, but rush also denied that they were going to invade you crime. so they were not holding much white at this moment, dw correspondent rebecca later thank you. rebecca to city of shiny, have in northern ukraine, has been besieged by russian forces for weeks as while following the russian withdrawal from the region. the horrors of what happened there are now coming to light. our correspondent alexandra phenomena filed this report from journey of the city of tourney, heave of 2 weeks of siege and have his shelling by russian forces. we meet the atlanta and valentino sipping coin a local hospital with they survived, but were both injured in

a nurse strike that hit their house. the ballistic wounded some one lord took less than a 2nd. loosely sweet. we just heard a whistle yet. great boom. the symbol i screamed get down was uncovered. my son, freeman, the glue, savoy. even school valentin still has surgeries ahead of him. svetlana is doing a little bit better. she shows me pictures of their house before and after the attack. this done up on why did they attack us? i don't know. we didn't do anything bad. where civilians are still the quinn, islam. the hospital itself was not spirit either bought and russia load. the hat of the trauma center here tells us after russian strike his team struggled to keep going. for 2 hours before we worked without water and electricity, willingly put headlamps on and took care of those seeking medical assistance. also, it was very hard on me, but we stayed here and did what was necessary for raleigh,

a will of social wellness and the situation worse than when russian forces completely encircled the city. residents tell us journey heath and you are to weeks of russian siege and just barely came through. water and electricity were almost completely cut off. no age could come in. local officials say at times the city buried up to 100 people in a single day. some of them were killed by russian troops. others died because they could not reach the hospital. due to heavy shelling and a local morgue edward slept please using refrigerated trucks for the bodies that still needs to be identified or pick up by relatives. a durable author, they will you follow. many people left the country to escape the fighting. that they are not in ukraine for them and cannot get back to bury their relatives escape from walnut. so that's why there are still many bodies here who to preserve the

right. listen here was that would be those who come here to claim their loved ones are overwhelmed by grief. like egos, family, he was a husband, a father, a brother, shut debt by russian soldiers. whenever he was the best buy there he could have, i was so proud of him. and now something this terrible has happened to his mother wouldn't. death and destruction is all that is left of to the withdrawal of russian forces from trim, the heath, and what those who survived your most is that the russian army might return european union. foreign ministers have been meeting in luxembourg to discuss ways to expand their support for ukraine. you foreign affairs chief yoseph morale had already proposed an additional 500000000 euros and weapons and other military equipment. ministers are also i and further sanctions options with

a plan to phase out russian oil imports quicker. the announced a ban on russian coal last friday. after the meeting brought also said, the block would do all it could to facilitate an investigation of possible war crimes committed by russian troops and ukraine. and these money we have had a meeting with a general prosecutor on the international criminal court. so the 1st thing, russia, how to make russia accountable for the gross gross regulations, hold international law. we will provide assistance in documenting their walk crimes. that was you polish, c, a foreign policy chief rather, you know, so farrell, speaking there and luxembourg. joining me now, here is d w chief political correspondent, melinda crane in studio. and we also have christine ward, w correspondent, standing by in luxembourg. christine,

we just heard there from usa for all talking about keeping russia accountable. the officials did meet with i c. c. prosecutor today and luxembourg. what exactly is it proposing? what kind of support are they going to provide here? well, it's both political support, as well as monetary support. that is said, the european union effectively assisting the international criminal court are in its probe of war crimes are in ukraine. it's going to do this through its mission ad that is in ukraine. this mission was in ukraine before the war. and it is going to be assisting the i c. c with evidence gathering to help the i c. c. build it's case as so as to bring at these war crimes at allegations are to be effectively looked at and possibly resulting in some kind of prosecutions are. we also know that to a hit that germany sweden and another human misstate, a pledge to something to the tune of 2 and

a half 1000000000 euros are in financial supports at to the i c. c to assist in this probe. i in particular, or of course they are also allegations around genocide that are being considered, that is technical at legal term. but some at e u. member states out for example, except that definition is happening. exec data site is happening, of course i in, in, in ukraine for example. shortly before the close of that meeting, i had an interview with the ledford ford minister who said, of course, it is for the legal experts to reach that conclusion. but as far as he saw it, genocide was being committed. i in the ukraine. so the ice is, he's going to be supported in the, with the year by the european union, and financially, and of course, some politically via the office in, in, in ukraine. now, melinda, in terms of sanctions, we heard yoseph burrell earlier, say that nothing is off the table. germany, we're sitting here in berlin. this country has faced immense international pressure for weeks,

even before the full scale invasion of russia to reduce its dependency on russian imports. what have officials here been saying, indeed, in fact, the rush of the german economy minister, robert hubbard, a member of the green party, has in working tirelessly to try to get that dependence down and has been quite successful when it comes to coal and oil. he's already talking about significant reductions and probably being able to win germany off of russian supplies of those to fossil fuels. by the end of this year, gas is a lot harder to do, partly just because of the logistics of gas. if to get liquefied natural gas from other sources than russia, you have to bring it in by tankers than it has to be taken off the tankers. we gas a fight that require special terminals, which germany would have to built so much harder to do. subbing has none the less been trying to diversify supplies of gas and has succeeded in getting german

dependence down from 55 percent of its overall gas imports to 40. that's quite significant. nonetheless, there's a long way to go. and germany has in fact, been holding back on agreeing to a gas embargo and therefore one message that we heard coming today from looks bored from the you foreign policy chief, mr. burrell will have resonated pleasantly in german ears. and that was the message that this is something that you member states must do together. it can't be each one moving on its own under pressure from the others, but that the member states must be aware that the effects are very ass. symmetric meaning for some member states, it's much easier to get off of gas supplies than for others. and for germany with its big manufacturing, heavy industry economy particularly difficult. so some understanding there. nonetheless, mr. boyle said, oil and gas, they remain on the table. we are looking at oil in particular because we send so

much more money to russia for oil supplies than we do for gas. and in fact, that is something we could more easily do. so expect to hear more talk about an oil embargo in the near future aside from an energy embargo, whether it's coal, as we saw, announced on friday oil looks to be there's also the question of weapons deliveries . and this is another area where germany is being criticized for not doing enough. absolutely. and there were statements made on that as well on the margins of this meeting. for example, mister barrell himself told the assembled foreign ministers look, this war is going to be won or lost on the battlefield, which is why weapons deliveries are crucial. we must get more weapons to ukraine. and in fact, they announced today that their european piece facility, which is a section essentially a fund for weapons procurement for weapons to be sent to ukraine. that it will, they're going to up the ante on that by another 500000000. now, germany has said all along that it wants to do more and weapons deliveries as you know,

they had been taboo until when this war started and the chancellor said germany would now be breaking with that long standing taboo. but apart from delivering lighter defensive weapons, it has not come through on ukraine's request for heavier weapons. one reason that germany is often said, we want to move ahead with our allies altogether. well, these most today partly serve to, i would say diffuse that excuse for not moving more quickly. and in fact, we've heard statements from both the german foreign minister on speaking on the margins of this conference. and today, also the german economy minister, both of the members of the green party saying we have to act. now we have to act creatively. we have to act fast for exactly the reasons that joseph or l cited. we've got a major offensive coming from russia in the east time is of the essence, and the german government is perceived as stalling as equivocating on this. and i think

a lot of the criticism being directed in particular at the chancellor who has dodged questions about why germany can't move faster. why it can't be more creative. so i think what we're seeing is also some division within the coalition, or at least, you know, not openly express criticism from the junior coalition party, the greens, but certainly some level of frustration that germany isn't moving to cut those bureaucratic knots and get the weapons out creatively to ukraine, christine, germany is not the only country facing this kind of pressure to do more hungry is also on that list. what have been, some of the other member states officials been telling you about what hungry is not willing to do with regard to sanctioning russia further. that's right, that is, of course sir, the embargo on oil and the european union has made it clear that before it targets russia's gas,

it will go full rushes oil. we've heard this from the european union chief, was it on the line? we've also heard from joseph aguaro, who chaired today's meeting as we understand it, it is being reported and that the victor alba of russia has said that he's not interested engaging in a conversation about oil at any other level other than a council level that is effectively a meeting of european union heads of government. ah, there is no council scheduled until at least at, at the end of may somewhere in may and june and it might be pushed closer because of that. so we might see european has a state been quarter meeting a sometime in april. it course a meeting scheduled because of the pressure that the block is and now the force, the fear is that if they fail to reach some kind of an agreement at that particular meeting, a special meeting, an emergency meeting. so to say that looks really bad for a unity are on such a big stage. so it remains to be seen what,

what is going to be the outcome of that. but already the room a meal is churning about that kind of meeting for, for their part as well. the hungarians have made it clear that they are prepared to pay for russian energy imports are in rubles. this is a breaking away from the position, the official position that the e u has taken a not to to do that as moscow was demanding. but that the hungarian said if needs be, they'll do it and they'll find a way to do it. that doesn't affect the sanctions that are in place. d, w correspondent christine, while reporting from luxembourg and he w chief, political correspondent, melinda crane. i thank you both for your time and your insights. asterisk chancellor karl nay. hammer has met with lot of me putting in moscow. he's the 1st leader to hold face to face talks with the russian leader since the start of the war. the hammers office issued a statement saying, there was a quote, very direct, open and tough exchange of views, the austrian chance or earlier travel to key for talked with ukraine's president

waterbury zalinski over the weekend. for more d w reporter and russia analysts konstantin eggers, joins us now. konstantin, let's talk a little bit about this visit. what is the austrian chancellor doing in moscow? he's the 1st lear to go there. was this in coordination with the european union? well, there was coordination, but the question is very relevant. i think we have spoken to some central european jump before the visit and they're very skeptical about, you know, the chocolate and the also just being able to achieve anything. last the, even the setting the scene for this is not looking good the place, the author and them to see where the chancellor or meet the press is a former guest house where your ribbon truck, hitler foreign minister was saying in august 1939 when germany concluded it's in intimacy back that starting,

so i'm absolutely certain that in war so and in the baltic states and other central european countries, this will only breed irritation. although one have to say that chart for me, hama went to key. i haven't talked to the last people who i mean most going to talk to the boss. he said one thing which is very crucial and very important for ukrainians. he said that pretty much everything is on the table, but ostrich cannot allow itself to do to basically side with the embargo or the rational because german here position. but i think that this thing all ready took the chancellor in a very weak position with regard to put in no matter how this conversation was proceeding. and actually it was proceeding with happens one on one because one speaks general quite well. so there will no translator,

there will no aids and pool, and our, the help they talked, the officer got saying that the conversation was very tough box. probably you would say that if there were no soon, chancellor meeting fulton at this moment, d w report on russia, ano of constantine agra. thank you. harrison or the other stories were falling free this hour. germany's family minister anna spiegel has stepped down. she faced criticism for going on vacation after catastrophic floods hit her home to region and western germany. last summer. she was the local environment minister at the time. twitter says billionaire eli mosque will not be joining in sport mosque recently became the social media platforms biggest shareholder. but the ceo says, mosque has decided not to take a seat on the board. no explanation was offered. indonesian police have

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d. w. news asia reporter shami alshaun, who was following the story for us from bon. he has more on pakistan's, a new leader was shurivo prime minister, should he faces ready, huge dos. he has to lift the concrete out of this political turmoil, which we saw, which happened in the past few weeks. the economy is in a shambles. he has to do something about it, and he has to real with brightness trimmer on con, who has threatened that he won't let him go on easily. they're supposed to have taken to the streets. there are using the new dot m government of polluting with the united states and the vest and austin cons government. so they are blaming the rest for that. so there is a lot of political tension stolen bugs from. and the economy, the economy needs to be to be lifted as soon as possible. and the new prime minister, the incoming prime minister,

abbas sharif. he's phased his own controversies in the past. what more does he need to do now to convince the pakistani people, particularly the supporters of him on kind that he's a man for the job are well shed boss. should eve faces of corruption, corruption charges the pending in the courts. the courts need to decide on them, but now he's the prime minister. it won't be easy for him to convince hosted friends for hans supporter supporters that he is good for disposition because they all accuse him of corruption. share bosher eve. having said that is a competent administrator, he has proven himself as chief minister of the punjab robins. so he has done already good job as the chief minister, but job progressed, leaps and bounds under his chief minister ship. so he is a competent administrator and that's what bugs on needs at the moment because the

economy needs to be fixed. the foreign relations that have been damaged to were damaged under ostrich brown. mister cons to know, especially with the rest in the united states, need to be fixed. so there is a lot from the search about sure he's played and i think he's a competent, able administrator. and you could do the more importantly he has to hold elections as soon as possible, but to say that there would 1st do undertake elect order forms and then hold fresh elections. w news, age ashley mail shawn speaking to us from bon, you're watching the w news. here's a reminder of our top stories. ukrainian president vladimir lansky says he believes tens of thousands of people have been killed in the weeks. long feature of mario ball. germany is foreign minister, is calling for more heavy weapons for ukraine and its fight to repel russia's invasion. and e. u foreign ministers have been meeting in luxembourg to discuss

ways to expand their support for ukraine. the ministers are expected to make further steps on sanctions and a plan to phase out russian. oil imports faster. the you announced a ban on russian cold last friday. you're watching the w news on abbey quite often . and thanks for being with ah,

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