and forms of time, ah, the phenomenon a dimension. we know, we won't live forever. an illusion. about time presenting future's past starts april 14th on d. w. the german president rung falter stein meyer wanted to visit. keep this week to show germany solidarity with ukraine until ukraine's president zalinski told him not to come. apparently stein myers, passed his intensive ties with russia, made him a persona non grata in keith. ukraine reportedly wants the german chancellor, olaf shoulds to visit instead. after all, the chancellor, not the president has sway over cindy weapons to help ukraine fight against the russians. but the snub has reportedly robbed chancellor sholtes the wrong way. now

what i'm brit golf in berlin. this is the day ah, my colleague and friend polish president and j duda recently suggested that the 2 of us travel to key if to send a strong signal of joint european solidarity with ukraine. i was ready to do that. that was not wanted by keith. ah, also coming up you as president biden has accused russian, president putin, of committing genocide in you crate and the kremlin has now responded could you get an excuse, you mean, lee categorically disagree,

and consider this kind of asset to distort the situation unacceptable. good. kimberly marizza, as we said, the full emma, this is hardly acceptable from a president of the united states, a country that has committed well known crimes in recent times, cnn kitchena and maury in id. she stood, ah, but to our viewers watching on tv us in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome, we begin the day with a german president who is not welcome. in keith yesterday, german president frank volter stein meyer was getting ready to depart for ukraine together with the presidents of estonia, lafayette lithuania, and poland. a visit to show solidarity with ukraine as it braces for a new onslaught by russian forces. but ukrainian president zalinski reportedly sent word to the german president not to come. apparently due to stein myers passed as

german foreign minister in which he championed closer ties with russia. now it's important to note that just last week, stein meyer admitted that he had misjudged vladimir putin. that his stance on russia had been misguided. apparently that admission was not enough to spare stein meyer. what was obviously a stinging snub. take alice, my colleague on fonda bonus is not, was it? and on the judah, my colleague and friend polish president and j. duda recently suggested that the 2 of us, together with the presidents of estonia, latvia and lithuania, travel to cuba, to send a strong signal of joint european solidarity with ukraine line. then noticed that i was ready to do that about us. but apparently that was not wanted by keyvonte again, and i have to acknowledge that others in here, mr. good. i some history in context to help understand why stein meyer was told not

to come to keep. before he became german, president stein myers served 2 terms as german foreign minister under former chancellor, under the miracle. during that time, he pursued closer relations with russia, both political and economic, and he shaped the german response to russia's illegal annexation of crimea back in 2014. but it's not only germany's recent past that is not sitting well with ukraine as it fights back a russian invasion. the issue of whether to send heavy weapons to ukraine has been the subject of heated debate in germany at the beginning of the war. the government here in berlin remained reluctant to get involved, but opinions both among politicians and the public have changed dramatically in the past few weeks. in january, russian troops were preparing for war, while ukraine begged allies to send weapons. but germany said it history meant it could off a helmet's not arms yonder. so he sank immediately to that and we'll deliver

5000 ham mistake crane as a clear signal that we are on your side cited it was supposed to be a gesture of good will, but it went down like a bad joke. then vladimir putin gave the order to the attack as tens of thousands protested in berlin. the german chancellor left it the weapons ban, citing anew reality and the guests and that she'd and we decided yesterday that germany will supply ukraine with weapons to defend themselves. the u. turn, so germany sent thousands of anti tank and missile defense weapons. but as the war groaned on, the calls for germany to send more dead. so to ukraine's president implored the german parliament it didn't make enough support us through my to keep

the peace in support ever ukrainian. stop the war, help us stop it. double machina ye zubin it the horrors of boot sha where not stopped, nor rama executions and a legit torture evidence of potential russian war crimes undergoing pressure. berlin is now exploring ways to get old tanks like these on to ukrainian battlefields. german arms crit, brian, mattel says the 1st batch could be delivered within weeks for a delegation of senior politicians visiting ukraine. they can't come soon enough that we need to clarify which weapons the ukranian army can use is this important so that they don't get equipment which requires a lot of training. and we have to clarify this quickly because the weapons have to come. now if often listen, get sia from helmet to tanks, it's been a 180 and defense policy for germany. for ukraine it may come to late.

my 1st guess tonight is thomas super horn. he's a member of the german parliament for the conservative see issue party, and he sits spokesperson for transit atlantic relations among his fellow all makers . mister seaborne is also considered an expert on military insecurity policy. mister subordinates, good to have you back on the program a before we start tonight, i'd like for you to listen to the response that was offered to day from the german chancellor and the german foreign minister regarding the, the snub against the german president. take a listen, simple, it's somewhat annoying to put it politely for me, it's clear, frank voter stein meyer expressed his views precisely including after his re election as president. he has condemned russia's aggression against ukraine. kind of what type of wellness president the german president said he regrets that he could not travel to kidd. i regret it till we spoke about the trip and i thought it was a good idea what it is if it's in 5 to mr. sybil were, and that's what the government is saying,

what do you and your fellow conservatives in the opposition? what do you make of this? we know that the ukranian president, the ukranian people expected more from germany that the you bring in people and president may know that generally clearly dance on the side of ukraine. and that there is a growing willingness in german society and politics to do even more to support you . great. last week, mr. stein meyer said that his decisions regarding russia during his time as german foreign minister, had been wrong. that he said he had misjudged vladimir putin. that is sales like a mayor. cope are coming from mr. stein meyer. what does that mean though? today for german foreign policy? but i think sure that the common from the training president was indeed a reference to the path of our for president. he was the right hand of former

german johnson. and then he was a foreign minister. and in this time, he played a major role in leading germany into energy dependency from rash and get back. he already admitted, as you mentioned, that he took warning from both ukraine and poland. and junior it's v. and now, and now we have to be aware of this in perfect, that germany reputation is still at risk not only because of this path, but also with reference to the current situation. and that's why we have to commit ourselves very clearly. we have to take whatever it needs to support ukraine and we have to do whatever it takes to russia. but let me just continue a little bit there with the german president, mr. stein buyer and he was foreign minister under former transfer. uncle americal

medical was a conservative such as yourself, shouldn't there be some apologies coming from miracle or from those conservatives who supported this pro russia stance for the last 16 years? many, many stakeholders were involved in this energy policy. and by the way, the russian energy deliveries are not only used by germany, but by many u. s. and if we decide to end our new peer a chance and our prior chance, and at the same time, there is no political majority at all sides. to use the natural gas or to build you get gas power plants, ben, we get into travels, and this is a current situation. so there is now a broad consensus to end dependency from russia as quick as possible. but we now

need a forward looking approach. and this approach requires you statement to look at the ukraine, not at our domestic needs, and to be very clear in this respect. the challenge is not to stop this war as soon as possible because this is not in our hands. the challenge is just brush up as soon as possible and we all have to take whatever it needs to stop ration. it sounds like if i'm under any right, mr. warren, let me just ask you, are you saying that an embargo of russian oil and gas is just not? it's not going to happen right now, is that what you're saying? and no, the union already agreed on a stop on co are deliveries. we are still in discussions for all deliveries and also gas, but it takes some time, not only for germany,

but also for your p and union. but in your best estimate, can you give us a timeline when with an embargo of russian gas and oil in germany, be realistic? i know the timeline. so 5 weeks ago, at the beginning of this arrest attack on new brain, we had 55 per cent from our gas supply from russia now with only 14 percent of our gas supply from russia already. so there is a significant, invisible progress, but yes, a lot has to be done. and we have to be aware of the possibility that this. ready or may not end in weeks or months. it could also last some years. and that's why we have to now very concrete in a way that can be secured and can be taken

can be kept for a long time. i want to ask you, mr. civil, hoary, while we have time about the german military, i know that the ukrainian president zalinski, he's been asking germany descend heavy weapons to help fight against the russians. do you see germany and the military? are you in a position to deliver anything that ukraine says it needs right now? the commitment is the ukraine service every support. this includes yes, heavy reference, artillery air defense and tanks. and yes, there's a variety of options for the government including offers from our industry and coordinated with our partners in european union. so for example, some delivered beer systems from soviet times and

they can actually be replaced. and we can fill these gas by, for example, delivering our air defense system into our base of the rioting options to be chosen in a coordinated manner by germany and by our partners and god, and they did with ukraine. yes, we have to do more and we have to get faster so far. we did too little and too late. there's a consensus in our parliament already more and to deliver also a heavy weapons. our champs are still hasn't changing, but i think there will be. and in due time concrete and significant progress, mr. bar, let me just ask you before we run out of time, what do you think? chance are all i should do? should he go to keep? should he get rid of this uncertainty and just make the trip to visit the president

of ukraine? but it's not. our chance to keep on. the question is what you can bring to green 1st. and what i expect is 1st and clear commitment, we do whatever it takes and certainly a fast track implementation of such a concept. we have to to constantly what we announce not bay eaten by bears, but deeds and this prove has to be given. and then he can travel whenever and wherever he was with hers from a civil war with the german parliament for the conservative c issue, party and the spokesperson for transit atlantic relations. mister stillborn is always we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. but the chief prosecutor of the international criminal court have said that ukraine is

a crime scene. he made the comment during a visit to the town, a butcher near key where hundreds of civilians were found dead after russian forces withdrew. a new 2nd mass. great has now been excavated in boucher investigators believe it contains 40 to 60 bodies. they say the bodies have gunshot wounds. ukraine accuses russian forces of indiscriminately killing civilians in butch. moscow says that the killings were fake or staged. he was, president biden says that he believes windermere putin's war in ukraine amounts to genocide. now it's the 1st time that the u. s. president, as use the term to describe russia's actions by emphasize that this is his personal view and that ultimately a court will have to decide the family budget, the ability to fill up your tank. none of it should hint, john, whether a dictator declares war commit genocide, half a world away. yes,

i call the genocide. you become clear, clear that food is fine. and what about the idea of the baby brain? mama, the evidence of money that it was last week, the more evidence is coming out literally that the russians have done in ukraine, and we can only learn more and more about that as a president biden was speaking there, as you, great official said that russia had largely completed preparations for it's expected offensive in ukraine's east and south of the mayor of the eastern city of car heath says that russian showing of the city has increased significantly and that casualties include dead children and russians. date television has aired footage that it says shows ukrainian marines surrendering in large numbers in the besieged port city of mario poll. ukraine says it has no knowledge of any

surrenders. i by next guess is our very own vladimir, as he pulls from d w's russia service. you're in berlin vladimir, it's good to see you. let's talk about the u. s. president for a moment, joe biden. his use of the word genocide. it drew an interesting reaction from the kremlin, basically, the kremlin, saying that the u. s. is the pot calling the kettle black or what, what it, what was your take on? well, the midship is called the spokesperson for prison put in called the bite and scored unacceptable. and told the grammar and strongly do agree with the position of the american president. and then john to quite use a line of defense use of rational courage just every time i even buy something met by the western countries and accusing them done the same before. so it's like

russell doing exactly the same thing. thank me. that the united states before today, it's the golf accuse of the states doing, making the same genocide. he doesn't that she didn't use the worked in a genocide, but she told us maybe it's in his new in us history as well. she didn't caught an example, didn't call any countries, didn't call any historical evans. but the general line of defense of the russian authorities is like, look at you, you are not better than us. yeah. if we look at moving forward at what blood of your plans to do, i mean, it seems that his plan is to go as long as possible in ukraine until unity here in the west begins to crack. how much endurance does polluted and his military, how much do they endurance, do they really have we don't really know if there are some reports about ross and military being all of our stretch the offensive and on the of the tourist from

offensive in the ukraine seemed 5 or 66, the whole rigor removal of the russian troops from ki, if in your movement the eastern part of the grant in the new state of the military parish. my dear, that there are stretched already and parts of additional troops being committed, committed to the, to the ukraine from different parts of process and even from abroad, from syria. my science of this are states as well. so no one really knows how, how much insurance they have, but i'm sure they will do as long as they can, as long as the president wants them to go. and they have a very symbolic date, and i and i, 99 of my interest because these are very, very big national, the really big national holiday and of the 2nd world war. so there are reports that would be military operation to be, to bring to be brought to some kind of and at least $9.00 to $5.00. yeah,

we know the 9th of may is not very long off either. i want to ask you, let me are you in the, in the eyes of the kremlin has germany been the weakest link in, in the whole western alliance be dado or the european union? i mean, is it possible to say that putting considers germany to be a useful friend no matter what berlin says about shared values with the us or the bread? i would not use the word friend anymore. describing agency between ment didn't mosque on germany as a declarative unfriendly country by irrational storage is that reports about the nickel germans being harassed by russian barracks and authorities all across the country. i just spoke a couple of days, go to the german governmental invoice for a settle central for national minorities who like who is in charge for a so called trust and germans in russia. and she told me stories about people being

harassed and russian being carry, reminded of nordstrom tool and unfriendly acts being made by a german outdoor it is. and that deutsche a valid even the dutchman is declared to. there are 4 in against it. jensen, rossi in bathroom working in us. so there is no more friendship as such. yeah, that's a very good point to make. we, we are no longer able to do our work as journal. it is in russia. yep. vladimir, as he pulled from the w's russia service. let me, it's always good to get your take on events. thank you. thank you. ah, we're more than 4 and a half 1000000 refugees have fled the war in ukraine. that's according to the you. when the majority of these refugees end up in neighboring countries, such as moldova, among them are tens of thousands of ukrainian jews, dw corresponded tonya kramer traveled to the mandolin capital kitchen house, where the jewish community is rallying to help,

a former printing house in the moldova, capital kitchen now, now a refugee reception center. it has been set up by israeli 8 organizations to support jewish refugees from ukraine and to help them immigrate omega yard to israel. forgot the tire man down from tel aviv. this work is very close to his heart. as a child, he left ukraine for israel with his parents of the long journey a good night and leave and resolute before the fire. this is our goal to send the boat as fast as possible, all the basically that they need to ease her to save. you yeah. has already started over once before she was uprooted from her home because of the conflict and the new hands region in 2014. she hoped she has the necessary documents on hand. it did betty, but i'll stop at you. i just want to finally start living normally. i want

a family kid to live in a place on a peaceful country under peaceful skies in yet. but you know, i don't want to run from the war again for the 2nd 30 at this time. my me is, i'm sorry, not everybody gets permission. documents are checked by israeli counselors stuff. onside by is ready. know someone with at least one jewish grandfather is eligible to receive citizenship. we hope the community and under jerusalem's ocean to hold them in time to live somewhere to view 2 of the condition for the few days that the hill is joking. though the commands leave the of the wire to come to we worldwide the law and then find google involvement. some of the refugees also want to go to other countries like germany or stay in moldova. the local jewish community has also stepped in to help. the habit synagogue under renovation has opened its doors

to refugees in the soup kitchen, cook natalie beliefs a daily hot meal helps people in crisis a lot better where we made lots of soup lentil soup, bush salads, and that sort of thing to make them feel better invite him to give people strength and happiness. i call her some math some bitter sweet moments at the airport. irina you have him over and her mother from cocky in easton, ukraine are among the 80 people are permitted to board the flight to tel aviv. i will agree we're already ready to move, but of course it's very scary to leave what you've learned for the place where you live. do studied and worked. the war of course sped up our decision. nothing is neither so scored as well as relief irina says, her thoughts are also with those left behind. with

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