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for and searching for an assist, insisting for exceptional quality. ah, there are certain things that i really would like to accomplish certain dreams, certain goals. sometimes that means i have to say no to other things. the choices to have to be made always otherwise the quality will suffer ah, tend to nagondo and the dodge is in bonnie or cast down many an almost magical relationship. in his own words, for the american conductor, bringing that magic to audience is the world over, has been his life's work. ah,

it's an emotional visit. kent nagondo back on the podium with the dea, so the duchess them pony or cast. our bellin nagondo is in his element for 6 years. he was principal conductor, here in 2000. and 6, he left for the bavarian state opera in munich before eventually moving on to hamburg. but nagondo still feels a strong bond with the berlin orchestra and emotion. he knows how to channel for the audience. it is important to have a very intimate and emotional spiritual, physical contact with the music or as an interpreter. but during the moment of making music for the audience. and you have to have enough to us

since at the same time that you can really be objective in terms of hallway performing to, to popping, so the public can feel it. ah ah ah ah ah ah

a day earlier nagondo was leading the final rehearsal in the berlin philharmonic concert hall perfection. kent nagondo once said in an interview should always be the goal. anything else would be a betrayal of both art and audience. in november, 2021, kent nagondo celebrated his 70th birthday, not long before he published his book, 10 lessons of my life in which he described some of the encounters that influence and inspired him. in 1979 nagondo sent some of his orchestral recordings to french composer and conduct olivia miss young, who years later introduced him to conductor seiji ozawa. in the 1980s nagondo studied with composer and conductor pierre bullets. another major influence was the great american composer and conductor leonard bernstein. ah,

ah, the things that i learned from mister burns son about conducting are the sorts of lessons that become apparent. many, many years later he spoke as a humanitarian, also as a great artist and a great musician, mister bernstein was one of the most physically organic, a communicators. he was also very good with the, with text he could speak for a while, a great communicator, but also if you want. so what's the videos of his movement? it's his quite seductive that it showing exactly what it is and when you think about it, this is some, one of the most was a fundamental forms of human communication that we have just body communication, body language. and sometimes when we grow up, we can forget this, you know, we've, we've had so many social training exercises,

but you should not sure how you're really feeling maybe that's, that's appropriate for certain circumstances. but for making music force, you need to be able to communicate in all on all levels. ah, ah, the news, the news

. and yet another source of inspiration came from an unusual friendship. when i grew up in california, my parents, as especially my mother, really had a problem with this rock music. she thought it was not only not interesting. she thought it was really the wrong direction to go. and i remember once frank sapa and the mothers of invention appeared on the television, immediately it was turned off. it was just forbidden. many, many years later when i was visiting, i was invited to visit my school payable as in paris. and i got a tour and i saw on one of the announcement boards that pierre will as was going to conduct frank zappa. and i was surprised. so when i returned to california, i did contact the office and explained to the office that mr. bull,

as will be conducting some of her mistress of music, and i would like to see the music. i heard nothing back for weeks and then out of the blue fun announced the telephone rang and it was frank's up on the telephone. i was quite old. 2829 years old. never been to a rock concert, never in my life, a new experience. so my 1st rock concert was to go to at the invitation of mister south to go to his concert. and at the intermission, a body guard took me back and i met frank zappa, and frank said, nice, very nice to meet you. you're can i gonna? i'm frank zappa hero. i brought you some scores and it was come out and scores. they said, these are for you taken home. look them over, let me know what you think and if you are interested. ah,

we can talk. another few months went by and the next telephone call was to invite me to collaborate with him with the london symphony orchestra to record 3 records of his music. and because of that, we became very, very close or not as a rock star or young conductor. but just purely as 2 people who were compulsive about music and wanting to make it at the highest way possible in 2010 years after german reunification, kenton tagano arrived in berlin, a city in the throes of reinventing itself, his time as artistic director and principal conductor of the d. s. o was another formative experience. right from the start. he felt a great affinity with the orchestra.

this is kind of a miracle. because when we met each other from the 1st moment, he was like we found a, we send english, a soul mate. and the orchestra had just gone through a generation change. and at that time, it was just my beginning in germany as well. and we began this voyage together. there have now been 2 generation changes since i began and 1999. and which is an incredible thing, but yet somehow we've grown in a similar way so that the relationship feels every time i return as if we've just picked up from yesterday. so it's, it's kind of her, a miraculous or more magical relationship is the relationship between an orchestra conductor is like, almost any human relationship. which is to say,

sometimes this is magic. sometimes it really works well. in 2021. the d. s. o, celebrated it's 75th anniversary. for nagondo, the orchestra's unique sound remains a lasting source of fascination. no matter who is the principal conductor, no matter how many generation changes her have been the dea. so sounds like the dea so's is really fascinated. some of the colleagues say it must have something to do with d and a of the of the orca. somehow it lives on and it's communicated how to describe it . well, i would describe it is to dia, so as always have a virtual so aspect. they've always had a lot of soloist stick capability within the orchestra. concert master's always been a big personality. the woodwinds have all the solo woodwinds,

of all had big personalities, strong personalities that as in the public. when you go to see the dia, so you, you see them actually as they play. ah, but even before he'd signed his contract as principal conductor in 1999 nagondo took the orchestra on a concert tour of japan. it feels like it was yesterday, actually. and it was the feeding of a new beginning with an orchestra conductor relationship. a new beginning for the d . s. o. to go to japan for the 1st time after many, many years, and a new beginning that japan would actually welcome a japanese american with a german orchestra. something that had never really happened before. that's why i think all of us all the dia. so who remember that to her? they don't forget it either says something very special. ah

yeah, i'm vision, lungs on it was quite a strain i communicating with a japanese choir. okay. speaking german and english. and it was especially a stay at work, but attention for me because i look like i should be able to speak japanese. but my japanese is, is horrific. it's really nearly nonexistent. it was a bit of a surrealistic situation for me as a, as a, someone of japanese heritage working with the japanese court and speak english and german at the same time to invite them to work with the german orchestra. it was who has a little bit upside down. but of course they're saying they're saying very, very well. and there was no problem at all. ah,

i, what's most interesting about tours is that one has the opportunity to spend quite a bit of time together with your colleagues outside of what the normal lifestyle is. and it's an opportunity where you control closer together where you get to know each other. so that was also a great opportunity to come together as an old sambal in 2006, the maestro and the deutsche. as in bonnie orchestra belin began work on a unique project, can't nagondo conduct classical masterpieces in cooperation with deutsch havana.

that was a, i feel for something very visionary, even deutsch avella, as far as i know something of the skills, as i was his kind of historical had never really been done with so much visual or interviews and discussions about the composer. and until today, i haven't really seen anything but thing so ambitious as, as, as huge project. that even as you recall, some animation sectors were involved really free thinking very, a imaginative m explorations. the feeling within the orchestra was that this was an opportunity to explore at this time, new technology to try to reach millions of people and throughout the entire world. and that was what made the orchestra so excited about the project as,

let's try to play for the international her audience, the international public that we can reach through too much of a classical masterpieces showcased 6 important symphonies by 6 master composers. one was johan is but arms at symphony number 4. ah ah

ah. mm hm. with 4th is symphony. i do have a personal relationship with it. now the piece to me seems like an unusually strong statement of the future. her not at all conservative, it's something that actually is nearly a radical sign post towards the future. and that's why it remain so active in my repertoire to day it is noise music. so to say, ah, ah ah,

but begs repertoire. so wizell is that the composer will bring the sounds of the future, bring us to the future so that the public is really anchored in the future. but a composer also will let us hear the past while we're in the future. so the last movement of, you know, in the 4 symphonies, the pasa kaya and ancient form that brahms brought back as a part of the future. the pasta kaya that's been used since, since broke times, and even before. so for us it, it may be, today's doesn't feel so radical, but at the time he was a clear sign post that the 20th century is coming for our tradition is going forward. that's why i feel today the for symphonies such a pivotal symphony and why, for example, sure,

and back faber and are so fascinated with with this. mm hm. yet contemporary composers have always played an important role for kent nagondo as well. a try at least to search for works and search for compose as i feel are not ordinary. but extraordinary. so that what i offer to the public, i honestly have to believe that it is of exceptional quality and has something profoundly meaningful to say, my personal experience is that or more often than not of

a piece that it is all our time that i've chosen to playing the public will be at the very least willing to listen to it, willing to give it a chance. and very often they are like the piece in october 2021, the conductor premiered the piano concerto, terra nostra at the philharmonic in berlin. a work by the french composer, awarded bruno boomy, born in 1982, a lot of years old. and he plays them on the fridge. and of course, nagondo was wielding the baton for the dsl. ah, the piece is special because we've been talking about the past, present and future. so one of the things that the boom boom yay,

is playing with is exactly this. putting layers of time together, independent voices that are traveling in, in time together, coordinated of course. but from a melodic standpoint, completely free and, and moving, ah, the pull off any is taking place primarily between the 3 trumpet solos and the string movement. at the same time, the piano and the precaution, they are playing off times very, very vertically, hulma phonic. so you hear these corps that are moving vertically. well, the rest of the orchestra is moving horizontally. paula,

frantically and the tension that comes from the vertical and the horizontal colliding together. soon, japanese pianist, marie coma, was the soloist at the premier. and the source of inspiration for who no bullying work. a beethoven expert, she is performed many works with a d. s o and nagondo at the helm. and she's been married to the conductor for more than 30 years. when mary and i 1st met we, there were, there was no question of any romance of an end. there is no spark of falling and love or something like that. we met as professionals on the concert stage,

and we gave man a many conscious together. and i always enjoyed it because with mary and me we were so close musically that her for a little discussion was needed. and when i would hear her play, it felt and her so close to my own feeling or my own aesthetic phantom it, it was very natural, very organic. and he was only after many, many years that we actually came together as a, as a, as a couple and, but still whenever we're appear on the stage together, i still count myself is very fortunate because the musical connection is a very, very natural one. so yeah, sometimes i can get in trouble if i don't conduct correctly. al ridi here in a very strong way. that should be better. we do haven't quite an open dialogue as

professional musicians. and that somehow doesn't get in the way of personal dialogue as well. i can't nagondo still maintains a full concert schedule in his free time. he enjoys windsurfing back home in california. it's a great way to reach arch. nagondo is still brimming with plans and ideas for musical projects at earlier phases. you just want to simply do as much as you possibly can all of the time, but choices to have to be made always otherwise the quality will suffer on the other side. and here i will quote frank zappa, because someone as frank salt the same thing, don't you ever get tired of touring with your band? and going over and safa said, actually i feel i'm one of the most privileged people because

i have the privilege of making music. and this is what i would like to do in my free time. not every one has the wonderful situation where they are able to have as their occupation, something that is also their passion. so in that sense i, i feel very fortunate and that is a stroke of fortune for us. kent nagondo, a life in music. ah ah.

a grand finale and the closing chords of this edition of arts. 21 until next time. good bye and out v t as in ah ah ah ah ah ah

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