tv The Day Deutsche Welle April 19, 2022 7:02am-7:31am CEST
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on this monday, airstrikes claimed at least 7 lives in the western ukrainian city of levine, the 1st casualties there since the invasion began 2 months ago. but it is eastern ukraine where russian missile strikes are now happening almost nonstop in the city of mario pole, a group of ukrainian soldiers remained refusing to surrender. and it could very well be a final act of defiance to night. once again in ukraine, the russians are coming. i break off, this is the day ah, it seems from the wade, russian army behaves in muddy vote. they decided to raise the sink into the ground at any cost. i think it's just a matter of time, before marable completely falls under russian control. the remaining suddenly korean army and large group of civilians are basically encircled by the
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russian forces. we will not leave our country, our families, our land, so we will fight absolutely deals. and those of in this worth of afraid of this is tend to be a very gruesome and sad end to any road fight. also coming up, it is the biggest stress test for trying as 0 coverage policy, shanghai of city of 26000000 people has been under locked down since last month. public health is at risk. along with the public's patience, you prohibited us from meeting others or even cannot find anywhere when we can find it. now you want to put highly infectious people less than 20 meters away from where we live. what more do we have to put up as who our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day at the start of what
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could be the deadliest chapter in russia's invasion of you. great to day russian missiles hit targets across the widest expanse of ukraine, since the war began almost 2 months ago. for the 1st time missile strikes claimed lives in the western ukrainian city of lobby. but it is in the east of you great, where people are reporting nonstop, airstrikes like never before russia today, claiming it hit hundreds of targets as it repairs for an attack. this time from the east and in the port city of mario pole. after weeks of russian shelling, these may be the final hours of resistance. mariel po has not fallen yet. the port city has suffered the brunt of russian attacks in ukraine. it has been under siege for several weeks now. he crane says at least 21000 people have been killed and those who remain in the city are trapped without
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the barest of necessities. what is happening here and mario pole is expected to soon spread to other areas too. but he's, he, me, that russian troops are preparing for an offensive operation in eastern ukraine in the near future. what they want to literally finish off and destroy the don bass. this you destroy everything that brought fame to this industrial regional russian forces or destroying mario poll. we want to wipe it off the face of the ass and other cities in the done yet. and lohan, screech ins, ramadi, the net, glasgow. bla, city on sunday, ukraine's remaining troops and mary apple defined brushes, surrender or die ultimatum, some tune, half 1000 ukrainian troops on dug in here at the sprawling as of stuff steel plant . it is now the only known remaining pockets of resistance, many civilians and children also sheltering here with the passing
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of the surrender deadline, provost and separatist forces say they are now preparing for attack. but is there only 2 blocks of buildings left before the mill? yeah, there's a small area around the factory and enemies. they're hiding the basements, that your father gets over. we're preparing the ground assault. the artillery will show them 1st, before we send in close quarters, assault troops, which are available to talk to later. meanwhile, mario pulse defenders offset to fight till the end of my 1st gifts to night is frank leverage. he is a former british military officer. he served in the balkans in iraq and in afghanistan. he's now a senior lecturer in walton strategy at the university of portsmouth, frank, it's good to have you back on the program to night. you know, expectations and predictions in this war in ukraine, they've proven to be perilous,
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but mario polls faith, it seems certain tonight me, despite maybe 2000 ukrainian soldiers refusing to surrender, the russians are about to take control it. is that your assessment as well? well, i think that we may be holding an end to this particular back a little early, those 2 and a half 1000 soldiers, which are elements of the kind of marines as well as the as of the time in very formidable fighters represent a really big obstacle for the russians, and the us of style plant is several square kilometer as far as i can see of industrial buildings. and it reminds me not only me of another battle in a battle city which was constantly near its end and the defenders held on. and that's the battle stalingrad and particularly the red october steel plant that and
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that held out for 3 months. now these guys want to hold out that long, but i don't think they're going to be surrendering tonight. and do you think that they could put up enough resistance that it could perhaps deal a significant blow to the russian military or at least force the, the, the russian military's tactics at the moment to change the brand? i think what that yeah, no, i don't think it's going to change russians tactics. the russians, it will, as they said, that they will show them and show them some more and then send an insult troops, and then it's a fight fight to the finish. and who knows how long it will last what my point is. i don't think there finish yet. yeah, i think i think i think that got a couple of days in them yet. and how strategically important is more, you pole, and what will a russian more you pull? what would that mean for the military calculus of the ukrainians?
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a 1st for the russians, of course, it represents the last lincoln chain between done by some crime in on land. there is another way to crime it from russia. that's the current bridge is quite strategically vulnerable for them. so for them to have a one bridge to their other occupied main occupied territories significant. i think the person will be, i will be something of success and may be able to claim it not as a victory then at least as a fulfillment of one of the objectives. and also, if this bottle ends in the near future, it could release about 10 battalion tactical groups, russian soldiers to direct themselves north to try and envelop ukrainian forces further east. now my view on that is once several people talk about releasing those forces, i think probably are going to be pretty rob action the some time to, to reform. so that's the significance from the russian perspective. and the trading
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perspective goes what we have is a hero. city, we've got a very heroic last stand on a symbol for perhaps future similar events in rush and you kind of cities to come. that's not. but it's, it's a hero city for that. we know that heavy weapons are now arriving every day in ukraine, coming from the west, mainly from the u. k. and the us with this help this military 8, can the ukrainians, can they hold the russians back? can they at least keep the lines the front lines stable and where they are today? i lost it or i'm sorry, i know with the weapons that the ukrainians continue now to get from the west. will that enable them to, if not to regain territory, at least, to keep the line stable and to hold off and repel the russians for making any
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advances? i think it can. it's going to be very precarious. the way the ukrainians are fighting now takes advantage of the weaknesses of the russians. the russians are fairly lumbering. now we've had that view of them for a long time, but we thought that they become much more capable of what we call maneuver warfare and west. the battle of care which they lost and the other battles in the northeast demonstrated that haven't really changed that much. one of the reasons for that is essentially the endemic problems. i have of corruption, poll logistics and poll leadership, and that's very clear now. so the point here is that ukraine is facing, not only an army internally caught out by corruption, and we saw it is in the bottles in the north where the russians were deploying tanks with crews of 2. now that shouldn't happen. you simply can't operate, attack like done if that's multiplied across the field. what we're talking about a seriously depleted army anyway. so what you find is standing to do is fragment
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the battle field, which is what they have been doing. and the weapons that they call in the most recent trash in the u. s. and the u. k. and other european countries allows them to do precisely that. so you can have highly mobile teams getting it behind russian lines. we can even further fragmented russian morale, attacking the will to fight. and most importantly, of all, the talk, you know, logistics, the problem they face, which is less of a problem than it would have been in the past, is russian artillery. that's the leverage. the russians have and power and you mentioned that you needed it. russians are increasing that, but i'll tell her it is extremely logistic centric. one of the things we've seen in the last day or 2 of the plan is not just defending well, but they're going on the attack. they're attacking southeast of care to cut one of the major lines of russian logistics. so they're doing exactly what we'd expect
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them to do exactly what we've seen during the past. the flexible, the aggressive be highly use that use their initiative at those lower levels of command to cause serious trouble to we can rush in force and, and, you know, if i'm reading you correctly here, we have the potential to have almost a still mean here, 2 sides that just aren't going anywhere standing in one place running in place. do you think this could become a war of attrition? i think brett, it's already a war of attrition. what the russians were looking for planning for their planning assumptions. all, all allow foreign aimed was a wall of annihilation even the way they structure your army, these, these italian tattoo group that people talk. people like me talk about a lot of good, fast, fast or quick operation. then it for enduring, more fat that essentially the basis of much bigger forces missions and have those
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much bigger forces. so in other words, notions of planning for more than i lation quick job in and out occupy the country club. it what you think is getting them is more of a nice, a war of attrition. which is something that the trainings probably better it fitted for than the russians, especially that we can state now. i got one more question for a long war. and that brings me to my final question, what do you make of black boots spokesman? who over the weekend said that they admitted there have been major losses for the russian military. and that russia hopes to find it into this conflict. and he said within days, i mean, i was shocked to hear that what, how do you read that? yeah, it's very surprising. it may be one of those confess, deny moments where the level of russian casualties of a sort of parents now in general society that have to allow for so that can admit to some extent that they've got those losses. or another possibility is this. who
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knows that the mind to florida and i only raises my purposes. but if mario paul falls in the next few days, then there may be a possibility that person may say, well, this is what we're going to do with united motherland with, with its lost province's cation crime and a dumbass planning interesting that planning a referendum pass on just slightly to the west of that around the ton of victory day. yeah. who knows what he's got? what's in his mind? only time will tell. yeah, that's true. frank led, which we appreciate your time and your excellent analysis tonight very valuable as this new events of gets under way in eastern you. great, thank you. pleasure. i thank you. well, as the ukrainian army suffers losses in battle, more men are being called up to serve for now, only reservists are being drafted, but all men who are deemed eligible to serve. they've been banned from leaving the
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country for those already in uniform. this war is one, they welcome. for others, it is a fight they dread w's. i mean s it has this report tonight will have to grab a gun if i will have to fight for ukraine. so i think i will stay and i will do what i need to do when will yes it is. if i'm cold up and i think i'm ready, even though i've never held a weapon in my life and everything can be learned, step by step, i'm following a him saw. as that says, no, no harm to any living creature. i didn't have some personal hate or desire to use a wireless like right to against people, but to well, if, if there was, if there was no option. well, an interesting in defending this land from intruders. and there's lots of
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other interesting ways of doing this. currently on working, working as, as her dresser. it's my profession and i miss for journalists and i'm just derived from the gina lympics, like on the 23rd of february. and like next, next morning, the divorce stars to, ah verify y'all be present on our public broadcast. nothing's been moving and we evacuated for keep, and we're continuing to work on the information from martina from that of. it's a very important moment now to move victim of the one, live it up with one male. it's why we men aren't on the front lines. but i would say anthea, we're also on a front line right now, but very, some of us, i don't know what will happen like in 2 days in 3 days here,
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but i suppose like every ukrainian have to who have to do their job. what to do? it's a main question. my wife and my daughter are in another country now and in poland. i can probably only see them off the wool when they can return to ukraine river in it, because i never get a photo green. my mom and my girlfriend's parents sold they left on either on through the hod i didn't call my georgia for the 1st 3 weeks from like, cuz it was very emotional. and i couldn't hold back my tears. but so i didn't call to 3 weeks about it since i started to come down because we've been in touch with miss shelf, mrs. financing options, not just staying here. reading for something i don't know, actually reading for victory of the ukrainian army.
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when l to that locked down in shanghai and china's worst outbreak of coven 19 since the pandemic began to day. shanghai reported its 1st 3 debts from coven. 193 cases in a city of 26000000 a. how reliable are those official numbers? china says this is the result of its 0 cobit 19 policy. what beijing may want the world to see as extreme success is being seeing inside shanghai as no success. simply extreme, we have this report tonight i rare scenes of descent, hinting at growing anger under shanghai lockdown, police and protective gear put an end to what was reportedly a protest against plans to set up an isolation complex in this neighbourhood. oh, hold this,
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he on law abiding citizens. we want to do what we can to help the country. you prohibited us from meeting others or even going outside anywhere. and we complied. but now you want to put highly infectious people less than 20 meters away from where we live. what more do we have to put up upper loudspeakers summon residents to come out of their homes for mandatory testing. any one who trusts positive is sent to an isolation center for at least a week of observation. regardless whether they show symptoms with as many as a 1000 people packed in to make shipped facilities living conditions. there are also a source of frustration going to him only the bathrooms are not very clean. that's understandable because so many people are using them and cleaners and volunteers can't keep up for their little dirty. and we haven't been able to take a warm shower. the lights are on all night long and so it's hard to film asleep.
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these are the things that people are complaining about most. we see them are to sasha. ok, you shan't with hollywood. and if i was on the doctors come by twice a day to take patients temperature with many exhibiting no symptoms at all. increasingly, people are more concerned about the hardships the outbreak is causing than the virus itself. hey, shit. obsessed people was scared of the virus and were panicking. but with the figures that are being published every day, people have started to accept the fact that this particular virus is not that horrible. and it was, i think there's been a change in everyone's thinking. but so far, there is no sign of a change in thinking by china's communist leaders. they continue to insist that the country must stick to its tough measures aimed at eliminating the virus. all right, let's take the story now to dr. william shafter. he's a professor of preventive medicine at the department of health policy,
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the division of infectious diseases at vanderbilt university in the great state of tennessee. dr. schaffner, it's good to see you again. i want to ask you as a, a medical professional and is someone with experience at the national level of u. s. public health policy. how credible are china's numbers from shay? hi, or how incredible can we take them to be 3 deaths in a population of 26000000? that's under walked dale. well brenton suddenly raises eyebrows doesn't put one in memory of former president reagan's comment trust but verify. so i'm a little bit dubious about that. we recognize that only crohn is less serious and that this is a highly vaccinated chinese population. but nonetheless, only 3 deaths in that huge city seems curious and police, i trust, but verify. you know, those were the days when you could actually go in and count the number of nuclear
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warheads in the soviet union in the us. we can't go in to china and get free access to information there. so we really can't ever know for sure what the real situation is. they are code wise, can we? no, i don't think we can. but it's really very clear that the chinese, at least until this present time, our intent on keeping coven absolutely down as much as possible. and they're gone to very extreme extent. do that. walking people up in their homes, once again. bringing a large part of the chinese economy, if not to a standstill, certainly will do see it very, very substantially. and now as the your report said, raising concerns among many the people who are affected, who had to go to the shelters because they had tested positive but aren't very sick
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. no, it's a good point. i want to think it now from asia here, bring it here to europe. here in germany, the countries health minister warned to over the weekend that with no vaccination mandate in place in germany now and with restrictions being lifted. a new killer very, and i'm quoting him, killer variant could emerge by this fall is, is there a lot of science there in that warning? i mean, do you recognize science in something like that killer barrier? well, what the minister on son is concerned about, of course, is that with unrestricted multiplication of the virus on a statistical chance, you could have a new variant that could have a, that protection of our current vaccines. perhaps that was not stated very skillfully there. but i think that that's what he has in mind. i would be more
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cautious in my statement, but for sure, for sure. busy new variance occur in an unpredictable fashion. yeah. let's just hope that he can miss spoke with this warning. united states, u. s. federal judge today struck down the cdc's face mask mandate on airplanes. have hope, transportation. let's get out of the court room for a moment here. what does the science tell us is the right thing to do now? yes, so i won't touch the legal aspects, but purely from a public health point of view. i think many of us have been expecting just that, that the masks can come off after all, in the rest of our society, we're going to enclose spaces for prolonged periods of time. houses of worship, bars, restaurants, concerts, and people are no longer wearing mash. so why on an airplane, the logic didn't appear to be there,
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and we anticipated that this last mandate on public transportation would soon come to an end. well, let me ask you, dr. schaffner, i'm here next week. i'm flying to the us and i still have to get a test covered test done 24 hours before departure and it's to have to be vaccinated and i will still have to wear my mask flying to the us all of that. and yet when i get to the u. s, i may not have to even wear a mask. that just doesn't make common sense, does it? i don't get it either. or the requirement for vaccination, i think is reasonable. the others i think, could be easily set aside. after all, putting people who have a positive test outside the u. s. is a little like asking somebody not to pour a glass of water into a swimming pool. we have plenty of the buyers here already. yeah, that's a very good point. 30 chevron is always it's good talking with you and let's hope
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that we don't get too many glasses being spilled this summer. good talking with you . thank you. thank you. all right, the day is almost done. the conversation continues online. you'll find this on twitter either w news. you can follow me on twitter at brent golf t. the every member, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that everybody ah ah
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