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has the important ukrainian city of mario poll follett to day russian president, poaching congratulated his troops for liberating the city after ordering them to surround not to storm the ukrainian soldiers there who are refusing to surrender. this would be a victory for putin in the biggest battle of this war so far. but u. s. president biden isn't convinced to night biden seems more convinced than ever that ukrainian troops armed with western weapons can win this war. i broke off in berlin. this is the day ah, the completion of combat work to liberate maria pole is a success. congratulations. first of all, it's questionable whether he does control. there is no evidence yet. mary paused completely fall clothes in all our guys and matthew polt want
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a victory. they want the city to be liberated. no one has gone to surrender to the enemy. put his bank in us losing interest. we will never fail in our determination to defend freedom in the post, terry. it's as simple as that. ah. also coming up, the german government says it is sending weapons to ukraine, but it refuses to say much more. and that secrecy has some across europe. questioning germany's commitment to stopping russia. i have underlined to yesterday that they are no to be said for us with regards to on to vehicles and other weaponry with they are needing to our viewers watching on p b. s. in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with vladimir putin 1st claimed a victory in his war on ukraine. from the beginning of the invasion,
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almost 2 months ago, russian forces have watched the wave after wave of air strikes against the port city of mario pole. while we can't verify the number of civilian deaths, we do know that efforts to get people out safely have been mostly unsuccessful. with claims of russian missiles targeting the very highways and railways, leading out of the city, a humanitarian catastrophe of unknown dimensions, destruction, as far as the i can see, to day russian, president putin said that his forces are now in control of the city. and he congratulated his soldiers for a job well done. a russian takeover of mario pope. it represents the biggest victory in the war so far. but is that what it really is inside the city's massive steel plant, several 1000 ukrainian soldiers are still refusing to surrender. russian troops have not stormed them, but potent has ordered the soldiers to surround the plant, so that not even a fly can get through. the vast as of style steel times
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seen hair and footage from russian state television. it's the last part of my to you full under ukrainian control after nearly 2 months of heavy fighting. with much of the strategic port in ruins. president putin has claimed a victory in the city and told his defense minister to seal off its defenders in their last stronghold. but it'll again, by considered the proposed storming of the industrial area pointless by order to abort it. removed from the list, there is no need to climb into these catacombs and crawl underground through these industrial facilities block off this industrial area molecular to so they're not even a fly can get through, but we will never succeed in dominating but in washington. us president joe biden dismiss prudence claims as questionable whether he does control. one thing for sure . we know about variable. he should allow you managerial corners to let people on
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that steel mill and other places are buried under rumble. to get out to get out. that's what any, any, any head of state would do in such a circumstance. and so there is no evidence yet that mary paused completely fall. ukrainian authorities have also urged moscow to open humanitarian car doors to allow those sheltering in the heavily bombarded as of style plant to flee. these pictures provided by the plants defenders show some of the hundreds of civilians and said to be sheltering and bunkers below the steelworks. but previous efforts to organize evacuations from either you will have heard little success. some $100000.00 residents are thought to still be living among the rooms. in keith, ukrainian president holiday made it to landscape speaking alongside his spanish and danish counterparts. remains defined in the face of russia. the soldiers announced
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that they will bring more weapons to young. i know that they've captured most of my poll a long time ago. we were very aware of that, but there is a part of our city where our service men remain and they'll stay there for now. e bulky sure. when the dump zealous size, with no surrender planned by those blockaded in the as of style steel plant, their age growing, concerned that those trapped in sight could starve. you. grains president has always said that his troops ability to repel the russians depends almost entirely on the amount and kinds of military aid sent by western allies. since the war began 2 months ago, the u. s. has transferred more than $4000000000.00 in weapons to ukraine. that includes today's announcement of another $800000000.00 in military aid. here is you as president by today. i'm announcing another $800000000.00 to further augment
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ukraine's ability to fight in the east and the dom boss region. this package includes heavy artillery weapons, dozens of howards ers, and $144000.00 rounds of ammunition to go with those howitzers. it also includes more tactical drug or this pulling their corresponding now cindy smith gone to she is in washington dc. now it's going to see you soon. so we're talking about a lot of money last week, $800000000.00 worth of military aid this week. another 800000000. how will this latest shipment, how will it help in the current stage of this war? that's why grant, it is a lot of money and we heard there in that clip from president biden. what that package of support will include? so the how it serves the 10s of thousands of rounds of ammunition. he also pointed out that the u. s. has already supplied plenty of anti armor systems. he said, these are particularly effective against russian tanks that they actually out number russian tanks by 10 to one. so he's very keen to point out how much military
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support the u. s. as already provided and is providing again with this package. he also said that u. s. intelligence continued to share their information with ukraine to help the country defend itself. now how exactly will it help president biden made clear that this package of aid is tailored specifically, especially with the type of weapon supplied to help ukraine defend the east where we know brent russia has ramped up is offensive so that it's just a different battlefield to a city like here where you've seen urban warfare holding out defenses on the outskirts of the city. president biden said that the topography of the east of ukraine presents a very different challenge. and in this package, these weapons that we just mentioned, including the tactical drones that according to him and his administration, is going to aid that effort significantly. if we do that, the president is not showing away from his authority here to send these huge aid packages to ukraine. how much support is there for this aid among americans? i think it's safe to say print. there is still broad support for ukraine among the
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american public and also condemning russia for its attack. in fact, they looked at a poll from the associated press just before coming on, showing that 54 percent of americans think biden has actually not been tough enough in his response to russia's invasion around 36 percent. think his approach has been just about right. the number of people supporting a direct u. s. involvement. that is waning, and i do think it's important to say it's going to be interesting to see how high the support remains in the face of soaring inflation. consumer prices are as high as if they've been in 40 years. americans are feeling at the gas pump at the grocery store, so that could cut into some of the support as the war extends and bret one more note on political support. president biden also pointed out that he's pretty much exhausted all the authority that he's had from congress or approve a to ukraine than it is used up all the money and the ability. yes, to send a weapons over. so he will have to send a supplemental budget request to congress again to continue the flow of weapons and
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aid. but i think it can be expected that congress will approve that. and i'm sure he's hoping that a european allies will be helping also to send more aid. do we know the this alliance, the western alliance right now in view of supporting ukraine. how strong is it is, is it as strong as it was 2 months ago? well, if he listens the president biden, the messaging there, of course is that he's underlined that the west, the u. s. in its allies there in lock step on pushing back against russia and supporting ukraine. and i think on the whole, there is still, if you listen to the biden administration, a lot of cooperation happening on all levels of the government between the u. s. and its european allies. what president biden said today is that the u. s. is actually also helping allies in europe get their equipment like aircraft systems, from slovakia into ukraine. that being said, i did speak to an expert earlier lieutenant colonel vin men who is the retired army general ukraine expert who said he was very critical of germany. he thinks that it
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is absurd, that germany is not meeting its obligations on implementing an oil and gas embargo delivering heavy weapons. and that germany needs to stand with it's european partners, particularly in eastern europe to carry a heavy burden. so that is one voice, and we're hearing more voices critical of germany. yet we're hearing this voices outside and also inside the country regarding to weapons shipments. he w submission was gone to reporting from washington to night. to me. thank you. oh, well, with holes growing for germany to act faster to arm ukraine to help fight against russian forces. the government here in berlin is reportedly preparing an arm swap with fellow e, you and nato member slovenia. under the deal, slovenia forces would send a large number of tanks to ukraine and to replace these germany would provide slovenia with tanks from its own supplies. germany is already supplying large amounts of weaponry and ammunition directly to the ukrainian army,
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but it has not directly delivered, taints or war play. for this week, germany's foreign minister has tried to dispel any doubts about germany's willingness to send weapons to ukraine of the country battles or russian invasion ticklish. they are no to be sent for us with regard to om to, vehicles and other weaponry with they are needing. that's why we are supporting other partners in a circle of exchange being tasha in gym and she to see that those are partners who i'll be delivering right now out of their stocks that we will fill the gaps because they can deliver. so which materials where training is not needed currently are for more now we want to bring in gustavo grosso from the european council on foreign relations mister grow. so it's good to see you again. we see reports that slovenia will send soviet made tanks to ukraine and in return, it gets german made armored cars. now that means if you can see through all the
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wheeling and dealing here, that means ukraine is getting the heavy weapons that it needs right. oh roughly, so these are so with era day you this law versions of the t 72 tax, they can be used with little training and she's tickle preparations because ukraine is using their similar weapons and also different versions of them. and. and so the ethic off the supply is immediate. if you would give them german times, you would have to implement a independent logistical structure for weapon system that hasn't been in place in ukraine. and that would basically you would lose time until you feel the f. all of this fall so so, so that is,
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that is basically the idea all of this. yeah, i mean that's what the german newspaper build has been reporting today that the government has vetoed, in fact, ukrainian request for some german made weapons like the i'm thinking of the, the leopard tank berlin and saying that ukraine needs weapons that it can use quickly. i mean, are these justified concerns holding germany back? oh, possibly yes. impartially. no. oh say this, this list of weapons. they concern by and large new production kind of weapons and. and here, the government has been more reluctant, or the chancery had been point reluctant to agree in them is that is a fee of the us that sort of direct applies from germany would, would bring repercussions for germany and under a lot of excuses,
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found for that oh, to justify that on the, on, on some items actually june, hesitation is just the point. for example, there are older secondhand tangs, which room need still has tangs bought new ammunition. and they have been trying to find over an issue for these vehicles and haven't found them and have sort of the although allied countries that would agree to gave me some parts of that. and that indeed has been from the technical site a difficult a demo. and soon ukrainians basically decided that to recall the request for them. so partially true, partially, it's a fig leave for, for any help in finding out concerns of different opinions between different parties in, in the coalition. you know, right after this invasion began, we sold the german chancellor announcing a paradigm shift about supplying ukraine with weapons of phasing out the
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use of russian oil and gas. despite all of this, there has been a lot of criticism of chance. the sholtes and his party, the social democrats, a lot of the coming from the ukrainian ambassador here in berlin. and i want to get your opinion. what hands, what, what would you crane gain from a policy of criticism that could possibly damage the current sitting german government? well, i have to run for size of the cranium bescedy, because if, if you, if you mentioned the amount of pressure he's on the and he's countries on the fighting and a substantial hall for, for survival. i, you would probably be if you were in that position yourself, you would probably not be enormously calm all the situations. and the problem is that sometimes the german communication on all of these issues has been suboptimal. 2 days ago, basically
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a ministry of defense set. we cannot export any of these on the speakers which are now exported to serena. the mano because it would contradict obligations in nature . of course, everybody knew that the still spam of a new world or out face on the coolness were in storks at the manufacturer. and those could be sold, bought day burke, kind of if you buy government by government communication and people in other lead ukrainians. but people of course with knowledge of the fact said, well yeah, what, ok, you can't give on the 1st talk, we understand. but what about the rest? why are you silent? why don't you tell anybody? there were numerous requests of also other countries for who, for example, have a soviet stock in, in their equipment to say, well, we could take these and could immediately deliver something key train. i mean, i'm very glad that they basically picked up e a. d 's,
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the lenient offer on they have for example, stayed silent other you and they to members who also a gave offers for what they could replace. and i was communicating it all, which kind of created an old situation where your closest allies don't know where you on this. you know that there's been a lot of claims of bad communication and secrecy. not helping anyone go stockbridge or from the european council on foreign relations. we appreciate your time today. mr. grosso. thank you. ukrainian investigators are a zooming bodies from makeshift graves as they gather evidence of alleged war crimes committed by russian troops. hundreds of dead civilians have been found or corresponded, but he is burlington visited the town of or the younger near keith, and he spoke to one mother whose son never came home for the police. it has become a grim routine. dozens of mass graves have been opened here in the past few weeks. but for an additional boy corps,
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this is the day she has been waiting for. her son was being ex you today. young children. he was on his way back. he called to say he'd be home seen, but he never came. question to him boy call was shot on the street in the early days of the war. his body was given a makeshift burial on the grounds of a hospital when the morgue had to close because it had no power. please say that here in the northern suburbs of keys, they have recovered more than 1000 bodies. deal with the town of what a younger was heavily shelled and then occupied by russian forces. life is too far from normal supermarkets and shops looted and destroyed. people here depend on a deliveries to survive at the hospital,
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police have zoomed 9 bodies to day. it was civilians were shocked in the streets, are run over by times some have yet to be identified. not altogether about that through unfortunately will be doing this work for many more years. but we'll work as quickly and as thoroughly as possible. so we have sold evidence to hold the aggressor accountable in the international courts will if it's not only those who did it, but also those who ordered it give them more than that. give more, you cannot the recovered bodies are being sent to the morgue for forensic examination and will then be returned to their relatives. you know, i know that his soul is gone. i know this is just a body, but it's the body that i used to hug and love it. it's my child. i cry every day because of the blood.
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my there's no boy cause one small comfort that soon she will be able to bury her son properly. ah, the chinese territory of hong kong is relaxing herbert 19 restrictions ads. the latest outbreak of the disease seems to be fading. jim's beauty parlors, the parks and cinemas have been reopen. people can dining restaurants until 10 p. m 4 hours longer than the earlier 6 p. m. colo. some schools have also resumed in person teaching. this move was prompted by a decline in daily cove. 19 cases to below 1000 from a higher, more than 70000. back in march, around the world, we are seeing pandemic restrictions being lifted. although scientists warn the corona, virus threat remains here in europe. the u. k. was hardest hit by the pandemic with
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more than 870000 cove and 19 related deaths. and yet prime minister boys. johnson's government was one of the 1st to lift restrictions in england. infected people are no longer required to self isolate, the wearing of masks is largely volunteer. voluntary except in health here settings and now even in hospitals and doctors waiting rooms, social distancing rules are no more, right? we're going to go over to the u. k. now and bring in by religious muhammad veneer, he's been following the story floors now for as long as the pandemic has been with us, it's good to see you get this money, or some is the government in england. is it moving too quickly in lifting social distancing requirements in health care situations? thanks, brett of rant for having me on the show once again. i mean, if you look on to the overall situation of co written, the europe, u. k. has been reporting more cases than any other european countries and still is the same with over 200000 cases a day according to a z o e. which means that it is
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a massive level of communities track ongoing. and that there will be a strain on to the health care sector and health care sector is already operating at a maximum capacity with a 95.2 percent. and that is the time. and it is a need to have more restrictions and more control of your so that at the, the energy is not come to the, overburdened by lifting all those restriction at this moment. meaning that there will be more suppressor, particularly into the health care settings where there is a more congregation that is more a limited space for a number of people in door. and that, that is a situation where the widest part of a lavishly and that is really not understandable and would have certainly consequences moving forward. so what you're saying, if i'm understanding you right, is even with in a just saying no more social distancing. they're setting the stage for more spread of this virus. yes, absolutely. as you can imagine, that removing social distances requirements within the health care sector,
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meaning that there will be more people indoor into the alkalis into the g. p. surgeries into the waiting rooms. and that is the time when we normally see that the widest frag between people and one of the major aspect on to the and number of people congregating in a small places in health care sector is that majority of those people convert some illnesses. that's why they are in the hospital. there will be people available in her abilities, immunosuppression and different age groups. and these are the real breeding growing on these biases. i normally call it any other respiratory wise without the same consequences. i want to ask you about what we've seen in the u. s. this week we saw u. s. federal judge overturning a mask mandate on public transport. the government now was appealing that, i mean, what does the science tell us about the need to wear masks at this moment? friend, over the last 2 years of this pandemic, we have learned a lot. and one of the thing that we have learned very clearly is that the marks do work and the marks are the most effective, not pharmaceutical interventions to come to, to, to,
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to remove any kind of transmission between infected on infected or between infected people. only for corporate, but also the spiritual viruses and we have witnesses that schools where the mosques have been mandated, there will be less number of cases. we witness that in a more study conducted in asia that and people who were when absorbing marks have less than 10 percent off the disease compared to the wonder with no observing. so all in all, most do work and particularly these are more important at the time when there is on the chronometer highly transmissible. and vaccines are not effective at this moment . and removing the most mandate in public transport is certainly not of the consequences. and that is what going to be proven in the time. yeah. and let's hope that people are not getting too complacent because, as you and all the scientists have been saying, we're not finished with this pandemic yet. biologist mohammed mooney years, this is always mr. me and we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. thanks. well, the day is almost done,
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