ah ah ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin, maria paul's. last holdout, russian president putin claims the city is under moscow control, but ukraine says its troops continue to resist the invaders. satellite images appear to show mass graves. the mario ball. ukraine accuses russia of varying up to 9000 civilians. also coming up fighting the war of the airwaves,

how ukrainian hackers are intercepting the russians radio traffic, and what they are learning about the invaders plus china expense shot highest lockdown indefinitely. authorities want 25000000 residents, they won't be allowed out of their homes until covet 19 has been completely eradicated from the city. however long, long that ah, you have else has welcome to the program. russian president vladimir putin claim to a victory over mario ball has been rejected by u. s. president joe, by a says there is no evidence that the ukrainian port city has completely fallen. no satellite images appear to show mass graves near mario paul ryan officials have

accused russia bearing up to 9000 civilians. there in an effort to conceal the slaughter taking place in the city. mario posts last remaining hold out is the as of style. still plant where some 2000 ukrainian soldiers at 1000 civilians are believed to behold. and here's a closer look at this vast industrial complex that has become a symbol of ukrainian resistance. the huge is of style steel plant seen here in footage from russian state television, ukrainian forces are holding out inside. mario paul has witnessed nearly 2 months of heavy fighting with much of the strategic port in ruins. president putin has claimed a victory in the city and told his defense minister to seal off this last stronghold . particularly, i considered the proposed storming of the industrial area pointless by order to aborted uniformly. there is no need to climb into these catacombs and crawl

underground through these industrial facilities block off this industrial area, the molecular. so they're not even a fly can get through. moving to next slide in washington, us president joe biden dismissed to since claim that will not happen as questionable whether he does control. mary. one thing for sure. we know about variable, he should allow you managerial corners to let people on that steel mill and other places are buried under rumble. to get out. ukrainian authorities have also as moscow to open humanitarian curry doors to allow those sheltering in the heavily bombarded plant to flee. these pictures were filmed by the far right and nationalist ukrainian group. as of battalion defending the plant, the footage shows some of the hundreds of civilians said to be sheltering in the bunkers below the steel works. but previous efforts to organize evacuations from

mario pole have had little success. some $100000.00 residents are thought to be still living among the ruins. but the dead may lie elsewhere. mary poles, mia has accused russian forces of hiding the true death toll by burying bodies of mary po, residence in a neighboring town u. s. satellite company, macs are released photos which it says show new mass graves in man hush. west of merrier poll attempts to break or cease fire ahead of the author, docs east, the festival this weekend failed russia. the unfortunately, russia rejected a proposal to establish an easter ceasefire. daughter, this demonstrates very well how the leaders of that state actually feel about the faithful, about one of the most joyful and important religious holidays. but we maintain hope,

hope lace lose bri, i am. and i do let you know a little bit from the as of style steel plant, hopes that piece seemed far away, the blockaded ukrainian fighters say they do not plan to surrender. and there's a growing concerned that those traps inside could stove. no dw correspondent rebecca with as is in keith. i asked her for an update from mario po and who is in control there. ah, well this is a war gearhart neither side, wanting to concede to fate until they absolutely have to. as we know, russian president vladimir putin ease claiming victory over mary, who paul, by the ukrainians. dona graham vladimir putin really does need a victory to take home to the russian people on day 58 of this war o. special operation as it is referred to back in russia. um, and this is perhaps the victory that he's looking for. the ukranian sang marybell

still hasn't completely fallen because there are still fight as those 2000 fighters from the as of battalion and the set 36th marine battalion at hiding out in that as of steel plant as you've just reported. and also some civilians under there as well . they welfare very worried about my, the ukrainian side. so, so you know, that tit for tat will go on until rusher is able to take that as of steel plant, which is expected to happen at some said yesterday. we know that they change tactics on how they were going to try and do that. president putin ordering the halting of a bump, the bombardment of that steel plant instead trying to blockade the area so that not even quote, a fly should be able to pass out of there. so remains to be seen when just how long it will take russia to completely complete their mission there and take all of mary you pull over to this stage, ukraine holding out. and also there are new reports here of suspected mos grades near murray bowl. a visible on

a satellite images warped. can you tell us about that? yes, shocking reports in mary you poll of some 20000 people potentially killed. of course, that number could be a lot higher than the mayor has said, given that figure of 20000. he's also said that russians are going around trying to hide the evidence, collecting bodies, and taking them to a nearby cemetery and dumping them in mass gray. it's also hearing report says mo val crematorium, so literally burning the evidence. they're very hard to verify that information, obviously as access into mary paul is almost completely impossible in fact. but we have seen those max on satellite images as you just heard in that report. the do appear to show those mass graves out in that area near the cemetery. given what we've seen and the outskirts here is the russian soldiers retreated all the

mass grades, other hiding all dead bodies. it is definitely plausible and likely records reporting from chief now constantly as a d, w correspondent, and russia experts. he talked to us earlier about president put in for mature declaration of victory n mario paul. and i asked what's behind that? well, i mean, 2 months of this campaign which was supposed to last just a few days, putting still has to present some kind of decisive victory that could be explainable to the russian people. especially on the eve of the day. 9th of may well, which, which is made into the main sort of state holiday in russia by. and i think that money will claim, are you, even if you doesn't control it completely, it is important that you can say that russia now has more or less secure lent corridor between the occupied by me and it. and the internet should recognize

category of the russian federation. think this is what drives into now. so the early days of the war, we saw at least some protests across russia that appears to completely vanished. what happened is everyone in support. now this war? well, let, let that say that they will not mass and they were frequent and i had the very wide geography which are which, which is important are bought by now there are still protest. you get every day you get dozens of records of the people putting out leaflets against the wall or standing in pickets in front of administrative buildings. buckle yes or understand since the this war, the 2nd phase of food is, was launched on the 24th of february, the government, and enacted quite a few very hard flows regarding fines and imprisonment for a mentioning this as

a war. it's called special operation in russia, so people get in prison. people get huge fines. and i think that that's time in the broadest, i mean that's quite natural. people are afraid for themselves of their family. now let me put, it is considered a master of stage craft and when you look at put his recent meeting with his defense minister showing you discussing mario, paul, what do you see? what can be read into that? well, 2 things. first of all, show good show that not in a military uniform but in a suit. maybe to put in maybe just to indicate that yes. ok, happy holidays the war is very soon. and secondly, that is what is being massively discussed now on our, on russian to the, to be a rich i follow it's put in state of health because everyone mention everyone sold that is clutching at the table. he's right arm is constantly clinging at the table

edge. some people say that could be an attempt to control ham tremors which may indicate parkinson's disease. but of course got well doctors and speculations about his health have been going on to white some time. no, still come on the operations. you still domains you right? the w corresponding concept, an exit bad. thank you. thank. the united nations migration agency says the number of people displaced within ukraine has risen again reaching 7700000 . 8 groups are trying to help those who fled their homes, as well as those still stuck in cities on the fire. people face a daily struggle in cities such as hockey, if that's ukraine's 2nd largest city, and it has been the target of indiscriminate shelling for weeks. their homes are unlivable, after weeks of bombardment. now the people of ha keep survived by collecting rain water and cooking on fires,

fueled by debris or lasting. we don't have electricity, water, any communication, and all. including gas in you, the garza her bertha for both of you can't really cook here because the would not be worth gold soon. it's hard to get it from the f. a garage has hit, you go and pick a panels. where else can we get it over a tree? a said we'll pull it and cut it. there is no other action. with bombs still flying above many are now living below in hockey's metro stations. some have been camped here for weeks once and we brought several blankets. mothers came here and now live next to the ticket machines. now i believe that must the best decisions that they paced the platforms to stay active. doctors tried to help the many elderly with medical conditions, parents distract their children from the realities of war. for

many finding food has become a daily challenge. these hockey residency gather what vegetables and can goods they can find to cook bosch sharing what little they have in crime. i talked neither front mine public transport still operates, but medicine is running out. walker, it's bad that they're no drugs in the pharmacies and that only a few pharmacies are still open to publish it. more pharmacies were open, it will be better. millions of ukrainians have fled to cities further west living and cramped shelters like this one. in ne pro, remembering the comforts they used to have such good own as will, i had a small piece of land value. we planted everything there, tomatoes, cucumbers, and greenery, or brittany. there was a flower bed in front of our house. the valenzuela peggy. now many rely only on donations aid groups worn. the humanitarian situation is worsening as the tide of

internally displaced ukrainians grows. for every person they help, more are waiting is not just tanks and artillery that are used by ukraine to fight back the russian invasion. there's also a war being fought over the airwaves. ukrainian computer specialists and radio operators of managed to jam russian communications or intercept them. and in the process, they've been able to reveal some shocking details of the was brutality. this man known as viking is one of ukraine's most experienced amateur radio operators. he's also a member of radio resistance, a group that interferes with the russian military's radio transmissions. they're fighting in the war of radio waves of g loan and em all obamacare radios actually forbidden and war time. but our intelligence services quickly realized that radio resistance can help in this war liking shows us how members of the group surge

through long and short waves for the conversation channels that russian soldiers used to communicate, decoding, intercepting, and jamming them is the goal. yeah, i mean he is an example, a driver of a russian army personnel carrier since he's coordinates, according to ukraine security services. this conversation took place between a russian soldier and his wife. he asked her permission to rape ukrainian warrant another. do you allow me to? yeah, this is shawn. yes, i allow it. she says, according to this protection from a bullet hinkle, that we haven't even identified the 2 of them, both little boards that we know their names are the social media profiles for might see us to thought we know everything about that. and you can leverage because even the date they moved to crimea from russia, let's say much to martha shameka ukrainians like viking of fighting tooth and nail

to defend their country. his comrade, known by his code name raymond, has risen to cult status. he takes radio jamming a step further. what speaking directly to russian soldiers, often insulting them. ah, this is on fire line, fight, learn to fire radios, this russian soldier rich jams to call stopping reinforcements from coming. and then since this, i know you see ukrainian intelligence work, a serious business. you should love and respect her enemy over at the end of the battle. and then there's a radio resistance interfere with the signal so that the trident of the ukrainian flag appears on the screen. this is what the radio wave looks like.

frankly, edwards is the universe electra and former military intelligence of some. i asked him how difficult it is to intercept russian radio traffic. well, what this speaks to go to is pull russian equipment, training and culture. and the 1st thing that i need to be able to organize themselves, probably a secure communications that preferably, cannot be intercepted. and in this case, as you'll see, as we saw just that, i'm, it is an open source intelligence there. just let alone, highly capable of creating a nato operators. find it very easy to break, break into russian communications systems. and of course, phoning home which we saw there with the 2 happy couple. one of which on i can say it's non hospital for moons. that's the soldier who was asking a girlfriend for commission anyway. if you don't have secure communications either with each other with home, you know, on, on them all, you need to have a culture what's called a need to know culture. and that's far more important than the communications

that's a cultural matter. western armies co take that from star school operations secure if you're upset. and even if you don't have secure communications, you can impede the enemy. so for example, when i was in iraq in 2003, 2004, we have a you'll do is, will remember, highly insecure. the insurgents could listen to us. but what we would do is we, our conversations will be brief in coats only we knew and be changing every day or so. so instead of being in a particular place with a read for south south and particular code. and that provided you with similar protection because then of course and said no way, you couldn't be intercepted. and of course, in this case, we got some time to pick up some people at the professional level and nato with no, i've been doing that doing it for 8 or 9 years in ukraine and long before that

intercepting and interfering russian communications. and of course those fantastic amateur hackers and open source intelligence people as well. so what this speaks to is a lack of russian equipment for a start procedures and culture. it's work despite just one of the comments on this . the kind of people who speak about rate, for example, of war crimes, over the radio or any form of something really should they should be speaking about the kind of people who don't have professional culture and are of course, the kind of people who will commit war crimes because professional military culture is not permitted. like you mentioned these communications about about rape and other war crimes. how reliable is this? these are these conversations, this recordings as evidence of a rape amount of civilians in ukraine? that will depend, of course,

on how the information could triangulate it. now in the case of, of the russian soldier who's been names, we reveal it all over the all over the internet. and after this girlfriend, it was identified very funny fact what they did, they rang up this man and his girlfriend, he's in the hospital, confirmed their identities and all the other things that are in the report. so in that case, when you have straight up or communicate a confirmation that might in court counter evidence. otherwise, what you have is information. this is information intelligence, it can't be confirmed really. and of course, let's not forget that ukraine has with russia kinds far better. it is conducting information operations campaign, and that needs to be taken into account to have a message to deliver and the delivery pretty well. now do you as a former military intelligence officer, following the development of this war, commenting on it for us, among others. what about your own sources?

do you have sources that it can really trust? oh yes, there are some people i speak to for background purposes. course one also has to be careful of the military culture of operational security. i don't want to reveal anything, even if i can find it out and i don't have privilege access. i don't have that kind of clearance, but i'd be very careful and giving us information. it might be helpful to to, to reverse reese. but of course, i mean we'll have, we'll have our connections and our experiences right at which that thank you very much for your input. thank you. get out. as of a brief look at some other stories, making headlines around the world is rarely police and palestinian demonstrators have again clashed at the ox, almost in jerusalem. please storm the compound of the youth threw stones up the scientist wholly to both jews and muslims. tension is high after deadly attacks in

israel and israeli rates, occupied whisper. portuguese prosecutor say a man in germany is now an official suspect. in the disappearance of british toddler madeline mccann. the prosecutors did not name the man publicly, and he has not been officially charged. a 3 year old girl went missing in portugal in 2007 triggering an international man. lawmakers in florida have voted to strip disney world of its special self governing status. after the company condemned a law banning the discussion of sexual orientation and gender identity and schools, special status allowed disney to maintain its own roads and utilities. in return for attacks, prosecutors in france has issued an international arrest. lauren for college go and who formerly ran reno and lisa going as it used to funneling millions of dollars of

renewal funds through a car distributor in a month for his personal use, including for the purchase of one $120.00 foot chinese authorities in shanghai say residents will have to stay in their homes until cove at 19 has been completely eradicated from the city. as many as 25000000 people have been confined to their home since the beginning of april, to contain a spike in corona virus case, district measures are part of china. 0 cove strategy, which is the met with growing anger and frustration. economy is also feeling the strain, a sport which is disrupting global supply chains and pushing up prices . well, for more all this we are now joined in the studio by the w. corresponded cliff aqona from the w's business department. clifford,

am i getting this right? is this an indefinite lockdown until the last person has been cleared of the virus? well, that seems to be what they're saying and it's, it's quite a puzzling situation. i mean, when you talk about raising it, does, i mean, and even the idea that you know, china's richest city and people are having difficulty securing food it's, it's just, it sounds like a bizarre thing to do and all to be looked like. we've got 134000 cobra debts in germany, and china has 4655. and still they have this incredible lockdown. so it's clearly, you know, it's, it's, it seems like a crazy policy. it seems a civilian out of proportion, especially because if you look at the short and long term economic consequences of what you know, tell us about those. well, it's interesting in the 1st 3 months of the year, the chinese economy grew by 4.8 percent, which is better than expected. but in april and we're seeing real signs of a slow down phrase is way down. and you can see that happening in place like

shanghai, which is the busiest part in the world. you've got people working in the factories around shanghai, they're all living in dormitory, so you have a kind of a bubble. they make their products, but then the truck drivers, you take the products to the port or locked in their apartments. so you're having all these kind of bottlenecks. you know, it's a, it's a real problem. and companies like apple, half of their $200.00 top suppliers are in lockdown and a quarter the whole population is in some form of lockdown in china. so it's, it's really going to have quite difficult. it's going to make things difficult for the economy going forward. and it just, we, i mean, we have to kind of see exactly how, how it will i will shake out, but it is going to be a difficulty. so why do you think, i mean you've, you've worked on china reported to try for a long time. why this trying to continue to follow this 0 cove? it policy, there's very, very strict 0 call it policy even as it has such harsh consequences. well,

i think there's that there's a, an important political backdrop to this. first of all, she's you paying this year is going to go for an unprecedented 3rd term as president. and that's, that's obviously a big factor. because china has the ability to do this, that has the surveillance equipment. it can, it, can, you know, you can catch you in lockdown if you try and get out of lockdown. and he's made it a political issue. he said, we're going to have 0 coven policy. so if he steps back from that, i don't think it will affect his, his, his 3rd term. but it would be an embarrassment. and in this year you just want everything to go according to what he's saying. and there's also a geopolitical element to this because china has been saying that, look at the west, you know, you've got a 1000000 dead americans. whereas in china, we want to get a few 1000 dead. so our policy is the best. and so that, that's an element to thank you very much, let a clue of f d w business. you are cindy w news. here's a reminder of our top story. u. s. president joe biden has rejected russian

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