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ah ah ah, this is d w. news coming to live from berlin. maria pulls last hold out. russian. president putin claims the city is under moscow's control, but ukraine says its troops continue to resist the invaders. satellite images of peer to show mass graves near maria holt crane accuses russia of varying up to 9000 civilians. they're also coming up fighting the war of the air waves, how ukrainian hackers are intercepting the russian radio traffic and what they are
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learning about the invaders tactics. plus, trying to extend. shanghai is locked down indefinitely. authorities more and 25000000 residents. they won't be allowed out of their homes until cove at 19 has been completely eradicated from the city. however long that takes ah hello, i'm terry martin. good to have you with us. ukrainian president, gloria zalinski says the besieged port city of mario paul will continue to resist. despite moscow's claims that is completely under russian control. new satellite images appear to show mass graves. near mario poll, ukrainian officials of accused russia burying up to 9000 civilians. there in an effort to conceal the slaughter taking place in the city. some 2000 ukrainian
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soldiers and $1000.00 civilians are believed to be still holding out at the as up stall steel plant. and mario poll is a look at the bast industrial complex that has become a symbol of ukrainian resistance. the huge is of style steel plant, seen here and footage from russian state television. ukrainian forces are holding out inside. mario paul has witnessed nearly 2 months of heavy fighting with much of the strategic port and ruins. president putin has claimed a victory in the city and told his defense minister to seal off this last stronghold. burglar groom my considered the proposed storming of the industrial area pointless by order to aborted human lives. there is no need to climb into these catacombs and crawl underground through these industrial facilities block off this industrial area. so the not even a fly can get through,
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but we will never said in washington, u. s. president joe biden dismissed to since claim that will not happen as questionable whether he does control. mary. one thing for sure. we know about variable, he should allow you managerial corners to let people, and that steel mill and other places are buried under rumble. to get out. ukrainian authorities have also as moscow to open humanitarian curry doors to allow those sheltering in the heavily bombarded as well. so a lot to flee. these pictures were filmed by the far right and nationalist, ukrainian group. as of battalion defending the plant, the footage shows some of the hundreds of civilians said to be sheltering in the bunkers below the steel works. but previous efforts to organize evacuations from mario pole have had little success. some $100000.00 residents are thought to be still living among the ruins. but the dead may lie elsewhere.
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mary poles, mia has accused russian forces of hiding the true death toll by burying bodies of mary po, residence in a neighboring town. us satellite company, macs are released photos which it says show new mass graves in man hush. west of merrier poll attempts to break or cease fire ahead of the orthodox easter festival . this weekend failed. the russia, the unfortunately, russia rejected a proposal to establish an easter ceasefire daughter. this demonstrates very well how the leaders of that state actually feed about the faithful, about one of the most joyful and important religious holidays. but we maintain hope, hope peace, miss bri. i am. when i do let you know a little bit from the as of style steel plant hopes for p seemed far away. the blockaded ukrainian fight to say they do not plan to surrender and best growing
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concerned that those traps inside could stove. she w, corresponded rebecca ritter's is just outside of chia. we asked her if there are any areas of mario, paul, besides the steel plant, which russia russia does not control. it's not looking so terry, it does appear that russia has full control of mary poll. apart from that as of steel plant. as we've been saying for several days now, there is still around 2000 soldiers thought to be underneath in a vast network of tunnels and, and as well as around about a 1000 civilians hiding underneath there. as we know, russia has claimed victory over mary, who paul, that is contested by president zalinski and the ukrainian side, backed up by u. s. president joe biden. as you just heard there, they saying that it's still too early to say rush is completely captured, mary, you paul bots. it is looking that they will succeed in taking that as of steel plan at some stage with those ukranian troops outnumbered at least $10.00 to $1.00. ah,
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but you know, it is war neither side wanting to concede to fate until they absolutely have to. what more can you tell us, rebecca, about those reports of mass graves near murray your full yes. shocking stories coming out of married poll the mer saying at least $20000.00 dead there. that numbers potentially a lot higher than that. he's also said that russians are going around and picking up the dead bodies and throwing them into these mass graves. that he says a near cemetery outside of the town with very difficult to verify this information . but as that report suggested, we've seen maxwell satellite images that do suggest those graves exist. and we've also seen similar scenes on the outskirts of keys around not too far from where i am, where the russians were occupied to show that they were also a digging mass graves and bearing bodies there. so it is potentially a likely story. tell us about some of the other flash points in this war right now,
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rebecca, because i understand the 2 sides are now concentrating their forces elsewhere along that very long line in the south and east. that's right. we've been expecting that for some weeks now. now that battle of don barza as it's being dubbed he has, is entering its 4th day we're seeing an uptake of bombardments, particularly in the hockey region. don bass and to the south along the coastline. their cities like mich alive, being heavily bombarded as well. we are hearing that russia has claimed around 40 villages in the east bed, president and lensky says that's going to be a temporary taking. and that, that, that russians should prepare to be ejected out of the country and you to be prepared for a, for a ukrainian when we are seeing that the ukraine is a managing to hold back russia to advancing, you know, particularly quickly if big gains and losses on both sides bought the battle for
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don best definitely in full swing now. so back to thank you very much. that was the w, as rebecca ritter's almost cation just outside chia. united nations migration agency says the number of people displaced within ukraine has risen again, reaching 7700000. a groups are trying to help those who fled their homes as well as those still stuck in cities under bombardment. police, for our people face a daily struggle in places like ukraine's 2nd largest city hakim, it's been the target of indiscriminate shelling for weeks. their homes are unlivable, after weeks of bombardment. now the people of ha keep survived by collecting rain water and cooking on fires. fueled by debris. one last thing we don't have electricity, water, any communication at all, including gastanyon garza bear with us from us. you can't really cook here because
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the wood may be worth gold soon. it's hard to get it. if a garage is hit, you go and pickup panels. where else can we get it from a tree as head? we'll pull it and cut it. there is no other option. with bombs still flying above many are now living below in hockey, metro stations. some have been camped here for weeks and once and we brought several blankets, mothers came here and now live next to the ticket machines. now i believe that must the best decisions that they paced the platforms to stay active. doctors tried to help the many elderly with medical conditions, parents distract their children from the realities of war. for many finding food has become a daily challenge. these hockey residency, gather what vegetables and can goods they can find to cook bosch sharing what little they have in crime. i talked neither
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frontline, public transport still operates, but medicine is running out walker. it's bad that there are no drugs in the pharmacies and that only a few pharmacies are still open to publish it. more pharmacies were open, it will be better. millions of ukrainians have fled to cities further west living and cramped shelters. like this one. in ne pro, remembering the comforts they used to have such good owners will. i had a small piece of land value. lee planted everything there, tomatoes, cucumbers, and greenery or brittany. there was a flower bed in front of our house. the valenzuela peggy. now many rely only on donations aid groups warned. the humanitarian situation is worsening as the tide of internally displaced ukrainians grows. for every person they help more are waiting . the un humanitarian coordinator in ukraine hasta la,
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brawny has been trying to get into the besieged city of mario poll. here's what he says about the situation there. my you fall is, is, is a, is an unfolding tract tragedy. and i think that we have continuously been trying to get in there. i was actually accompanying a convoy that we were ready to go in, but unfortunately it, it, it hasn't worked out yet, but we are continuously trying to ask for those pauses so that we may be able to go in. so we were not giving up. we're not giving up. not on were you not on her son? we keep trying every day is looked at a couple of other developments related to the war and ukraine. investigators from the united nations have documented the killing of nearly 50 civilians in the town of boucher. near chia, they say russian troops executed some of the victims. ukrainian forces discovered mass graves in boucher following the withdrawal of russian units from the area.
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president vladimir zalinski says russia wants to hold an illegitimate referendum on independence in the south of ukraine. he told residence in the army 5 regions of cow sunk and south rita not to give their personal information to russian forces. the vote is seen as an attempt by moscow to legitimize its occupations. annabelle grima plan and the leaders of britain and india have called for an immediate cease fire in ukraine prime ministers, boris johnson, and a rend remote. he made the appeal during talks in delhi, the 2 leaders also saw a trade and defense agreements to reduce india's reliance on russian fossil fuels and weapons. germany's foreign minister on alina burbock is in business as she wraps up a 3 day trip to the 3 baltic states. rushes invasion of ukraine has dominated the agenda during her trip. speaking alongside her lithuanian counterpart, felberg stress, germany support for the nato alliance and for strengthening regional security in
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the face of the growing threat from russia. but she also played down the prospect of equip cease fire much less an end to the war in ukraine. i'm back staged and i'm here that cannot be a ceasefire at any price. i think todd aden, we cannot accept the dictated piece. i line the only the ukrainians and the ukrainians alone get to decide the future. it is not any illusions about that. so i speak to in as difficult as it may be to accept nothing having tried time and again to reach a common security policy in europe with russia is our partner partner putins. russia has forced us to take a new policy or slant yet i'm annoying course. so game today about when we must now protect ourselves from russia was slant i'm joined by phil lance gulf. she's an analyst with the european union institute for security studies. thank you very much for being with us. the german foreign minister we just heard from there
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saying europe needs to protect itself from russia. we ask you, 1st of all, is europe even capable of defending itself at this point from russia without help from the us? well, the question is, what is the threat scenario that you know underpin to this idea if we're talking a full scale invasion with tens, etc. that's definitely definitely one thing. another thing where europe has really grown and stronger when it comes to cyber defensive capabilities, etc, etc. so i think we are more capable than we realised, but there are definitely some gaps in the systems that russia could exploit. germany is one of the world's top arms producers. when we're talking about the war, new crane, many are wondering why germany is not sending more. can you explain that to us? i think it's a combination of things. it's not so much that germany doesn't have these weapons.
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it's more to actually, it needs weapon itself. but 2nd, be the strategic considerations. know what this make the war worse and away. what did perhaps provoke russia? i think these are more strategic and t and long term ideas that are present in gym and decision makers mine. so as i said it's, it's a bigger whole picture, rather than just having these weapons and not wanting share them. journey has been slammed, not just by ukraine, but also many e u. member states for not doing more to help you crane. what does this crisis tell us about german leadership in europe right now? i think it's no secret the germans strategic culture since 945 has been a culture. they march along the lines of you know, dialogue finding, building bridges, corporation, trade, etc, etc. so, and as long as the world was in line with these ideas, it was easy for germany to be a leader. now we're in a different world where suddenly these ideas off, you know,
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people who dialogue through corporation are no longer as much to with before. and i think that's what you see in german, german foreign policy. well, i'm not going to say what it's not working, but it's trying to find its new values. it's new core in that sense. and so it's too soon for germany to be a leader because of the new world for itself. the german government says it's not ready for an embargo on russian gas. many say that's essential in order to stop moscow having the funds to even fund this war in ukraine. how much of a problem is it for europe, strategy on dealing with russia, that there is no embargo one gas? so i think the problem is that, that we're talking about several different things as you have already announced that it wants to phase out its dependency on russian puzzle fuels gas and oil. but the question is, should we do this now?
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so literally just pull the plug, this is where the german government has been hesitating. it does not against reducing dependency over the long found that it's towards the end of this year, or even next year. success would you think. and so i think that's, that's the problem. which brings me to another question, which is, what immediate stop of gas and price from not actually end the war. would that make it more difficult for russia to sustain its war effort? the thing is that it's not a straightforward equation. it's not as simple as we wire the money and then pay folgers with this money. he needs this money much more on the domestic front rather than for the war effort. so if you're thinking ok, we stopped, he's got him pause and that will make it more difficult for him to have political consensus at home. that's a valid calculation. if you're thinking he's going to stop bombing ukraine, i think it's a bit more tricky. so i think all of this, the complexity of the thing makes the decision making flow and appear in the convoluted. the u. s. has been leading the effort to supply
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ukraine with weapons. how do you rate europe's overall response in to russian aggression in this war? i think it's, it's, it's spectacular to be honest. i mean, before ukraine, europe was very much in line with germany strategic culture, a continent and organization actually not just the continent that was very much a focusing on. yeah, the peaceful resolution of conflict. a non military in nature, etc, etc. the fact that most european them is that in fact, member states that in the past such as sweden had a even more, let's say, pacifist orientation foreign policy than germany have made such a turnaround. it's very impressive. so i think the big surprise here is not just the war itself or the performance of ukrainians, but it's also how europe manage to change in strategic direction. basically
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overnight going scale from the european union institute for security studies. thank you very much for talking with us now tanks and artillery are not the only weapons that ukraine is using to flight the russian invasion. there's also a war being fought over the, the air waves, ukrainian computer specialists and radio operators have managed to jam russian communications or intercept them. and in the process, they've been able to reveal some shocking details of the wars brutality. this man known as viking, is one of ukraine's most experienced amateur radio operators. he's also a member of radio resistance, a group that interferes with the russian military's radio transmissions. they're fighting in the war of radio ways of the one and the mobile damage a radios actually forbidden and war time. but our intelligence services quickly realized that radio resistance can help in this war liking shows us how members
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of the group search through long and short waves for the conversation shadows, russian soldiers used to communicate, decoding, intercepting, and jamming them is the goal. i. he is an example, a driver of a russian and personnel carrier, since he's coordinates, according to ukraine's security service. this conversation took place between a russian soldier and his wife. he asks her permission to rape ukrainian with another. do you allow me to? yeah, this is shawn. yes, i allow it. she says, according to this protection on the bullet gene code that we haven't even identified the 2 of them goals little boards that we know then names of the social media profiles and for march the us to so we know everything about that and you can move it because even the date they moved to crimea from russia, puts a much timothy shameka ukrainians like viking of fighting tooth and nail to defend
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their country. his comrade, known by his code name murray, has risen to cult status. today he takes radio jamming a step further speaking directly to russian soldiers, often insulting them. his van file land side were under fire radios, this russian soldier rich jams to coal, stopping reinforcements from coming, and then send this residential line. now you see ukrainian intelligence work is serious business. you should love and respect her enemy. over. at the end of the battle, the members of radia resistance interfere with the signal so that the trident of the ukrainian flag appears on the screen. this is what the war of radio waves looks like. it's catching up on smile. the stories making news round the world to day
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israeli police and palestinian demonstrators. herb again clashed at the alex the mosque in jerusalem. believe storm the compound after youths threw stones at them. the site is wholly to both jews and muslims. tension is hi, after deadly attacks in israel and is really raised in the occupied westbank. portuguese prosecutor say, a man in germany is now an official suspect in the disappearance of british toddler madeline mccain. the prosecutors did not name the man publicly and he has not been officially charged. the 3 year old girl went missing in portugal in 2007 triggering and international manhunt. french prosecutors have issued an international arrest warrant for carlos going, who formerly ren renault and nissan. gun is accused of funneling millions of dollars of renault funds through car distributor in oman for his personal use. including for the purchase of a $120.00 foot young chinese authorities in shanghai say
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residents will have to stay in their homes until coven 19 has been completely eradicated from the city. as many as 25000000 people have been confined to their homes. since the beginning of april to contain a spike in corona virus cases, the strict measures are part of china's 0 coded strategy, which is being met with growing anger and frustration. economy is also feeling the strain. the lockdown has caused chaos. shanghai in port which is disrupting global supply chains and pushing up prices for more on that were joined here in our studio by d. w, correspond clifford clinic. clifford chinese lockdown measures in dealing with cobit are severe. what sort of deacon nomic? consequences will all this happen. well, it's going to a very severe economic consequences. i mean, it's a truly a remarkable lockdown. a quarter of the population of china is under some form of
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lockdown. and it's even more remarkable when you think that there's the 134000 cova debts in germany and china as at 4600. and yet they've completely shut down the whole economy. have in shanghai, in particular, and other major cities in china. so it's hitting real estate, it's sitting exports, it's hitting retail, and it's causing major problems for supply chain. we have shanghaied, you know, the busiest port in the world and, and what they've done in a lot of chinese factories, for example, that they've created bubbles because the workers all live in dormitories on site. so sometimes the production has been fine, but you can't get your products out because the truck drivers are in there in florentine, you know, so there's all these sort of things. and also in china, for example, you use a chop to add to a stamp government stamp to get business done. but all the government offices are closed. so really the economy is kind of seizing up and, and the economy grew faster than we were expecting. the 1st 3 months,
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but already this month, as signs of that it could be dropping quite severely. most other countries in the world have accepted that they are going to have to learn to live with the corona virus, that the virus isn't just going to go away. why is pop wise china sticking to its 0 coven policy? but i think there's a couple of reasons. i mean, one of the reasons is that the public health services is still underdeveloped. and there is a genuine worry that if there is a mass infections that the hospitals won't be able to cope, and they won't be enough beds that there won't be enough, i see use and to, to look after people. but there's also big political backdrop to this. i mean, this is the year where she's been paying will go for an unprecedented 3rd term in the autumn. and he needs to make sure that he put a lot of political capital into this saying that we're going to get rid of of coverage. and so he now has to back that up. and, and there's a problem as well with the vaccinations in china that, that, that the chinese vaccines don't work. so he has to, really,
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as they don't work as well anyway as, as western vaccines. and so they're, what they're doing is they're sticking their, he has to stick to his guns. and in this one i'm, there's also a geopolitical aspect where china has sort of been housing its success in combat and covered so far with the 0 coven policy as a way of highlighting the fact that, you know, in the u. s. for example, things weren't handled as well, you know, to 1000000 deaths. you know, so there's a big geopolitical aspect to it as well. so he really needs to kind of stick to this 0 cove at policy if that just for the political capital save face to china, it's even created the museum of celebrating it's victory over covered which well, i think that's still a little ways all good. we're thank you so much. good for conan from our business. you know, you're watching d. w news. just reminder of our top story this our ukranian president below me, zalinski says the, the seized port city of mario poll will continue to resist despite moscow's claims that it's completely under russian control. this comes as satellite images appear
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