the cook cook's class starts may 11th on d, w. mm. ah ah . doesn't say that we news lines from berlin, a shift and german defense policy as the government announces direct shipments of anti aircraft tanks to ukraine. announcement comes as defense, ministers from some foreign countries meet in germany to discuss helping ukraine's military friend off the russian invasion. also coming up, the new one secretary general drives his hand at working with moscow on ukraine with antonia who cherish meets with russia's foreign minister. ahead of schedule

talks with logging there and russia intensified. it's bombardment aiming at targets . further inland am eastern ukraine, but ukraine's troops and civilians hold on to help. ah. i'm nichol froze, it's good to have you with us. the german government has shifted it's policy on ukraine and announced it will deliver anti aircraft tanks to the country. besides the united states, host a meeting of military leaders at its air based and ramstein germany today, u. s. defense secretary lloyd austin, called the gathering of ministers and military leaders. from some 40 countries, many of them outside of nato to increase the flow of weaponry to ukraine. beyond the tank shipments, germany as also authorized the raining of ukrainian soldiers to use all true

artillery systems on german soil in conjunction with the american military. and let's hear some of what u. s. defense chief austin said at the start at the meeting. i agree with a whirl. as you know, i stayed here for traveling with my friends, secretary of state, when we all has and productive discussion with programs on tv, about work that we're providing a brandy and you crazy or the broucher la into. so i only worked question to producing urgency. i know that the whole here like the whole room today to leave

a comma and transparent understanding of the pre mirror. because more or less we can be and that meeting is still under way and close to the media. for more, i'm joined now by d. w. political correspondent benjamin alvarez, who is near ramstein air base. benjamin the u. s. secretary of defense is promising to move heaven and earth air to support ukraine. what else stood out for you in the statement? it's right and you put the emphasis not only on helping ukraine when this war, he said that ukraine believes that in that you asked, believes that ukraine will win this war. ukraine believes that as well. and so does everyone else here, referring to this delegation that is taking a port in this meeting. you put the emphasis not only on helping you when this war,

but also on the long term, a security assistance that all the u. s. and his law allies want to keep providing he said, we will help ukraine when this fight and build up ukraine's defenses for tomorrow's challenges. referring to what he spoke to with ukranian presidency lensky when at the u. s. m. both minister. so antony, blinking and, and mr. austin visited the ukrainian capital a few days ago. so 40 different nations are invited to take part in this conference . housing. never candace it is highly significant because they want to find a common approach with their allies. and as you mentioned already, this is not a meeting under the nato umbrella. that's what the pentagon spokes person, sad as well last week. but as nato secretary general against oldenburg, is taking place as well as finland as well as sweden. of course, it will have wide range in consequences. what will be decided here today with of

course, the germany of course making headlines already by announcing this is delivery of a lot of tanks of this special tanks to ukraine tanks that are not used anymore by their buddhist vessel. this gap attacks that are very specialized, also antiaircraft systems, something that is a huge paradigm shift for germany, but for the u. s. for ukraine and for its allies, it's long overdue. so it will be an interesting day today they will give it press conference afterwards to announce how they will keep supporting ukraine to defend itself against the russian aggression and to me of her asleep. ramstein airbase. thank you so much. thank you, talking about this announcement from the german government i'm bring into must be called. he's a journalist, specializing in international defense and security policy. welcome. mr. lee called and tell us more about these anti aircraft tanks and germany will now send to ukraine. how much of a difference can they make in the war? you think?

actually they can make quite a difference. it's not tanks. technically speaking, it's short range defense systems. well, it's an arm, a chassis, but still the main important point is a antea craft cannon on those machines. and the german army has taken them out of use almost a decade ago. not because they were obsolete. but because at that time the boom to say i was scaling down, they had no use for it anymore. i think they regretted it. meanwhile, because for outrage, defense is much in demand everywhere now and especially in ukraine, so the ukrainians can make use of it. of course, definitely, but this will also depend on how long it will take to train ukrainians on those get part and jack rock canons. they are not not really sophisticated by today's

standards, but they require a lot of training for the radar for the electronics. and so, yeah, that was one of the reasons why germany was putting off, giving these kinds of this kind of equipment to ukraine, wasn't it? i think give us an idea of how well equipped ukraine's army is now because there are a lot of countries pitching in the u. s. secretary of defense said today he's convinced that ukraine can actually win this war. well, he has to say this and the psychology working at this point as well. if you look at the moment ukraine has received from the west so far, this is more or less a live album and its anti tang guided ammunition in german pants or falls. it's stinger aircraft systems about the light and geography system. what your brain is, liking is heavy systems, main battle tangs air, the fans not only those,

a light air defense but heavier system. and this is talk to flow in mostly old soviet bloc weapons from the czech republic, from sla baker, probably from slovenia as well. this will go only so far because as a limited amount of these old soviet equipment available in those countries who were in the eastern bloc and now are part of nato. so if nato nato, but if the west wants to continue supporting ukraine, they have to think about starting training ukrainians on western systems to deliver western systems as well. that the german government, very hesitant when it came to delivering, having weapons to ukraine. that garnered, well, i shot a lot of criticism here and abroad. how big of a you turn in today's decision? well, it's, it's a u turn. it's a, it's a new quality. however,

it's again the decision which allows the government to convey the idea. it's not bad news because it's not german stock. it's not coming from the drum and on forces. it's coming for the industry. so technically, the german government is only approving the drum and industry selling those get parts to your crane, which is completely different from the drama me delivering equipment journalists to last week. i thank you so much for very interesting insights. you're welcome. or in ukraine, his cells volunteers are working to evacuate thousands of civilians and the east to living with the daily and nightly russian artillery shelling. they live mostly in basements and shelters. many without electricity, gas or water. with this man as being evacuated from his home in ha keith, but was trapped in his fled. it is

a miracle. he survived no new inertia. they've been bombarding us all day and all night. now sheila blew up in the beginning. it was quieter and light sparkling. the bombing only happened during the day or will overthrow later they begun bombing at night too. oh, nice little girl walking laval, missouri hit here in the yard, but it is ridiculous. who would lure har? keith has endured a barrel of russian attacks. cons than shelling has reduced much of the city to ashes. now, some 50 residents have been evacuated from brun frontline neighbourhood. they have been taken to shelters where they hoped to be safe about 400 kilometer south safety is still

a distant dream. russian forces continued to pummel the as of stell steel factory, the last pocket of resistance and mary of pole. the port city has been under siege for weeks now. most of it has been wiped out by russian bombardment. the dire fate of mario pole has been a warning to other ukrainian cities to protect them. ukraine's president bloody may zalinski, has asked allies for more support for every one in the world. even those who openly did not support us here now agrees that the fate of europe, the fate of global security and the fate of the democratic wisdom is being decided in ukraine. stella and it seems like his calls for greater diplomatic efforts are being heard with dozens of nations willing to support ukraine in a war that it simply cannot win on its own will un secretary general antonio good harish has sent to me president vladimir putin of russia and moscow,

later to day and a push for a diplomatic intervention. in the conflict of more that meeting the u. s. chief, sat down with russian foreign minister, sergey love rough there. he emphasized the need to minimize human suffering in ukraine. western country see little chance of a diplomatic breakthrough by there is hope of a breakthrough on humanitarian aid for ukrainian civilians. ukraine has asked go terrorist to push for the safe evacuation of civilians from the besieged city of mario paul in the room to think and dw killian buyer joins me now. he's covering events in russia from the latvian capital, riga, kelly on the un doesn't want to call this an attempt of mediation. so what's the secretary general's gold there? what can we expect from good terrorist visit to moscow? well firstly, i want to say, i think it's a major success already. that gutierrez, is even in moscow to cherish heavily criticized the russian government about a month ago. and since then,

14 and who didn't refuse to answer his phone calls and even call her back. so many see this as a major step forward, but like you said, a good terrorist claimed himself he wanted to push for a ceasefire. a most experts, even at the u. n. c, this is highly unlikely. so the hopes are maybe about some small concessions could be made, which could basically paved the way for a later piece deal or piece negotiation. but that's, that's far down the line. so, so the crime one is promoting a narrative of the west, threatening russia and wanting to punish the country for defending itself. essentially, many people believed that rhetoric can the secretary general's visit, do anything to change that well, i think we need to understand how russian propaganda works. though the russian government is basically saying that russia is fight against fighting against the nazis in ukraine. that the ukrainian government is perpetrating a genocide against russian speakers. and of course this makes a very,

very difficult for the russian government then later on to agree to a peace deal in the end they've kind of back themselves into a corner. so i also think, you know, that the russian population will probably not hear too much about this meeting. you know, maybe they will hear about humanitarian aid. but if it's officially not even the war wide, you need to talk about a peace deal, you know, tentatively is getting buying reagan. thank you very much. thank you. and he's a quick reminder at the top story. we're following for you today. us defense secretary lloyd austin is hosting some 40 defense ministers of the u. s. air base, and lunchtime germany and hope of increasing the flow of weaponry to ukraine. germany has already authorized shipments of anti aircraft systems directly to ukraine. for washington, w. stay tuned for it. dw business with chris colbert from the nurse force also

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