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ah, i'm fil gale. welcome to the program. germany now says it will for the 1st time send heavy anti aircraft, a weapon systems to ukraine, to help fight off rushes invasion. the decision follows weeks of criticism at home and from ukraine. defense minister christina lambert, and maybe announcement at a u. s. lead meeting of defense and military leaders at ramstein airbase. here in germany. the u. s. air base and the dumpster in germany. this is where the united states and its allies pledged new packages of ever heavier weapons for ukraine during meeting on tuesday. that was hosted by us defense secretary, lloyd austin. we don't have any time to waste the briefings left today, laid out clearly why the coming weeks will be so crucial for ukraine. so we got to move at the speed of war. and i know that all the leaders leave today
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more resolved than ever to support ukraine in his fight against russian aggression . the day kicked off with a surprise in a notable policy shift. germany, which had been criticized for refusing to send heavy weapons to ukraine, announced it would now send capehart anti aircraft systems the ambient, i don't think we've made the decision that it's now important to support. and he air craft offends us that can be done with a good part and is exactly what's on the list of what ukraine needs. and that is what we coordinated with others are now making possible. we'll continue doing this for not everyone in berlin. welcome to decision, since miss increased by the problematic germany doesn't even have enough military equipment for itself in the case of 2 teen totally losing control. go to. i think it's important. i also think that what the german government is doing is good. but
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i'm also not sure if offering weapons is actually going to stop the war. and i didn't like the degree of hesitancy. in the end, i would actually be for aggressive weapons. so heavy machinery people awesome. i'll go through this guy. in his closing remarks, austin said the gathering between the us and its allies will not be the last. once a month they'll meet to discuss ukraine's defense needs to help them fight the russian invasion is. let's get more from d, w 's or political a triple is where i decide mikaela kaufman. welcome mikayla. so what is behind this german, utah? what prompted it, an internal struggle within the governing coalition, which lasted for weeks and in the end, so tans the salts and his social democrats. still not wanting to deliver those heavy weapons to ukraine, while the free democrats and the greens had already been calling for exactly that
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at the same time. they all said that they're on the same page, but they clearly want and here we now see what is the 2nd small turn around really because internally here in germany, this is seen as a paradigm shift, the delivery of heavy weapons into a war zone. that is a fuzzy and it crosses what previously was seen as a red line here in germany, externally picky. when you look at those east partners, it's germany. find the being in sync with the rest of west islip pushed some of the edge. it really was the internal pressure as well that the free democrats, the greens, wanted to see that chancellor strike not just a different tone, but actually so that with action. and at the same time, we're seeing this external pressure, the americans calling this meeting on german. so at a u. s. military base, if you wanted to be part of the west really, this was the moment to change it and change direction. and those were heard in the
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report. this meeting is to become a regular event. yes, and i think there is a very profound message in this and we've had a lot of debates in the past over who is the west? well, it was the west sitting down, run around the table and right not. well, that's the important thing. it was exactly not nato countries. it was, it's a much broader set of countries. it is the west, it's liberal democracies standing together, standing up for ukraine. nato still wants to and vows to stay out of this being a clearly just a defensive union. and here, these are that willing states the states willing to stand up for ukraine, but making this monthly just manifest the impression we're getting increasingly this will last not just months, but potentially is right. and how damaging has a chance with shouts is perceived. foot dragging b for germany standing while he started off pretty fast. 3 days after the
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ukraine was invaded by russia. it was the german chancellor who declared that site and then the new era. and then he was not just perceived to be dragging his heels. he was not willing to go down that avenue of heavy weapons. now germany seem to do exactly what it vowed not to do once again in this mounting conflict. and it does raise some question marks over who really needs in europe, who is the true leader. and at the same time, it is actually done quite a bit of damage to the trust that eastern states as eastern countries the baltics have in the germans. thank you for that. i did of history political. it is a mikaela. let's talk about this further without volta fighting, who is a former brigadier general of austria's forces. he's now president of the center for strategic analysis at vienna based think tanka welcome to d, w. and let's talk about the weapons that germany is now promising. what sort of
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difference will these are gephardt anti aircraft tanks a make? i don't want to expect an immediate effect on the ground on the battleground, by delivering heavy victims from germany. but in the long run, been as a long run and think about the few months. for example, you can have a strong impact on the capacities of the ukrainian armed forces. because the danger from the are coming from russian fighters in tech, helicopters is very intensive. so having some veterans against that will make a change and that they make the climate from ukraine for, for, for an air defenses from, from nato countries. that seems to have come down. or does that mean that they've given up on that? because nato has said no to it. now, it is still on place, i would say, and it is of highest importance for the survival of the tank forces,
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for example, from the ukrainian side. because the danger probably is so high. so they need to really, very importantly. and so how well equipped, let's talk about that. the ukranian cyber. how well equipped or is ukrainian ukraine's army 2 months into this war? i think it's equation to never can. nobody can answer really exactly big. but what we see is the effect of the ground, ukrainian forces are still able to stop russian assaults, assaults, and they are still able to maneuver in a certain extent in the area. so they are standing on a very high level, i would say. and that is a huge advantage of that, the lever vapor and says he already because they've got a lot of entered tank from san antonio weapons. and that makes a difference because now they are able to defend the on our higher level. and they
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are not running out of weapons and ammunition. so this is a battle that seems to have exposed russia as a, something of a phantom superpower, as it were, because the expectation was that they would obliterate you crate. and clearly, we presume that there are many more russian forces in reserve. so what's going on here is russia choosing not to throw everything at this conflict, or is russia actually doing that and still coming out? not as well as we expect. industry, many analysts say russia is throwing a lot of troops that they have available towards ra towards you cream. so it is not the size, it will say it is more they capacity on the ground to act and to act in a very coordinated today. so many people say already that the force in the strength of russian forces was overestimated. and i agree to a certain extent,
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any meeting with that, the un secretary, a general today, a russian foreign ministers. i love ralph said he had complained about the west effectively trying to establish an alternative organization to the un. now we hear that the united states is convening a monthly meeting of defense and military leaders from 40 odd countries to coordinate at weapons supplies and strategy. a mr lover of seems to have a point, does me i would say it is a change of argumentation from the russian side, because from the very 1st moment they neglected to call it the war. they call it a military operation, then say they will focus on the dom bus only and they, and take care of the capitol and so on and so forth. so i would say it is a very adaptive argumentation from the russian side according to the situation on the ground. ok, good. talking to that, sir. very clear. thank you so much for joining us. volter,
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a fighting. thank you. un secretary general antonio terrace has met with russian president vladimir putin in moscow. terrace is in russia to put pressure on the kremlin over war crimes allegations in ukraine, and to try and put an end to the war earlier. and he met with a russian foreign minister. so gay lover of antonio terrace is proposed setting up a u. n. lead humanitarian contact group in the ukraine to protect civilians. un chief is face criticism for visiting moscow before keith p. w. so moscow bureau chief unit rochester, has been covering this set meeting is currently racing riga because d w is banned in russia. welcome your re a. what else are we hearing from the protein it's cherish meeting? as was so far, no joint press conference between vladimir putin and her antonio terrace. but i believe that the meeting with russia's foreign minister, love rav previously today, earlier, was for a taste of the meeting with letting me put in,
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considering fill that lever off on the transmitter, put in swill in foreign parts. of course, it was good there to both put in and a garage spoke to each other, especially considering that target harish very clearly condemned to the war in ukraine and blamed it on put and previously i had of this meeting are nevertheless, only time will tell whether this meeting really brought anything because looking bet back to a similar event in history. remember that the surprise visit of then the secretary general bunkie morn to put in in 2014, after the annexation of crimea ban spoke of very constructive talks, which as we know now war of nor use at all. right? and the secretary general also writes her, the russian foreign minister, sir guy at leverage. so as you hinted back at the same line coming out of both meetings or at least one diplomatic goal has been achieved,
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a garage was hurts. i wanted to point to the fact ah, that he spoke out very clearly about the war during the press conference today in moscow of wart. a war that to no russian offer in person is in russia is allowed to sid you to the russian law at bar to the so called fake news about the russian armed forces. i think that russia is conceding, at least partially by setting up a joint contact group under the leadership of the game for the evacuation of the population are. this can also be interpreted as a positive sign because it's off us is the russians a kind of firm? yeah, exit strategy from their feller us in ukraine. russian state propaganda might see this as a general gesture of good will by letting me put in. but at the end of the day, doesn't matter if it's ultimately leads ah, to the setting of the human life center. this is exactly what the gal terrace wanted to achieve. as a peacemaker. i mean, just slight change of subject or your it but, but news reaching us that her rushes gas from is halting,
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a gas supplies to poland. barber your mouth pipeline. what do we make of that? well it, it gas from is going to completely suspend to gas supplies to poland from april 27th or so. polish companies received a letter from gasper about the complete suspension of supplies under these yamil contractor jamal contract. previously, poland refused to pay for russian gas supplies with mandatory conversation into rubles. this of course is a bad sign, not only for poland because gas, brown forest, not only poland, but all western countries to pay for gas in roubles. as far as we know, germany was able to supposedly agree on payment in euro's as, as t below. c p related to an in the contract. as for poland, it was stated that this was a break of contract by gas prom. and so, no matter how the situation develops further feel, this is of course, a clear threat to other western countries. like you for batter uri w. moscow bureau chief,
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newly rich shatter. overhead of the runs nuclear watchdog has visited chernobyl omby, $36.00 anniversary r v a nuclear disaster i 8 chief rafael marianna, mariano at marianna grossi said, are russia's recent occupation. have been very dangerous, said radiation levels went up during the takeover, but are now back to normal. but he is fully report the world's most dangerous ruin from sealed under giant concrete hurt. the chill, novel disaster site is once again the focus of attention. now that russian occupation troops have withdrawn the head of the international atomic energy authority can assess its condition. the 1st ready must go to the operator with these people here because they carried on their work. in spite of all the difficulties, in spite of the stress, in spite of the fact that they could not be working normally, they continue working as if nothing had happened. so they get the sedation stable,
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so to speak. and these in this, when commence the worst at work, of course about the 1st task is replacing equipment that was destroyed or stolen. just the 1st one you will have to push on a good cooking versus starting his teams doesn't wasn't what vehicle they weren't admitted to the critical parts of the structure meal it but they left a lot of chaos and they stole equipment from us. but computers as just unusual log ebony, if any of actually us 36 years ago, this nuclear block behind me exploded. it was the worst nuclear accident in human history. now, 36 years later, the war has brought back the nuclear threat. the russians took over the sides on the 1st day of the war. hollow was cut several times putting the cooling system at risk. and ukraine says the russians, dark trenches in highly contaminated forests,
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releasing radiation from contaminated, so barrel door. lisa did a little room and i on the edges of the forest, we didn't go. indeed, we found levels of radiation 50 times higher than the norm. well known, where cameras will discarded food packaging suggests the soldiers spend time there possibly becoming contaminated in the process. rescue workers and other staff remained in the town of chernobyl during the occupation, hoping the russian forces would understand the danger they were putting the world in. i'm, we got african willie ocean, a short move. they were quite diverse and there were different groups, some understood where they were, and some did not. there was so many of them. the 1st group arrived and another than a 3rd, and so on. some behaved reasonably, others less so, but i can't tell you what was going on in their heads,
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any more homes because i strongly will have yet to know bill has escaped another disaster. now it's about securing this site for the future. but him to mac ation. we craves national research center for radiation medicine. we played a key role in monitoring radiation exposure following the novel disaster joins us from poland to welcome to d w. so we've, we've had some that they had of a international atomic energy agency describing the ration occupation of chernobyl . i was very dangerous. what's your assessments of the situation then now? so well, so i would say that so there are certain rules of war and there are some to it rules, so don't kill children, don't kill women and also don't touch your critical objects like nuclear or chemical. so the way that that everson. so what's happening now, so he started to recover the main problem and now is that the restoring the
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monitoring network, which was shut down immediately after the russian forces came a purpose and partially due to lack of electricity. so now it's important to, to restore the monitoring can to account for damage as far as the knows that destruct had destroyed our cars or servers for just wanted to order that for the sure very things. and so there is no immediate threat for, for public or for, for, for the population of europe. but still a lot of should be down to, to recover and to, to restore operation. we can only speculate, but what do you think the reasoning was for this year? so we'll just go into a dangerous nuclear site and destroy all the records in a country that they hope to occupy what possible benefit is there to them of doing
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this. so why is personal estimation is that there are several levels of was in the lowest level, is a simple soldiers. the looting, they take shiny things like as far as the knows about it. radiation sources were stolen. so there is no use for, for the state of pressure, but maybe there are very nice shiny metal or wood which can be brought by those soldiers because it was a virus sensor, i don't know. and another official pointer role is a very attracted to say, what should know balance appreciate because the spent fuel storage is storage size or maybe irrational storage is decided to, to keep them and maybe to use them in the future provocation of his daughter, which is quite to realistic scenario, so i would expect the call spectrum or for offer for malicious actions,
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is there. ok. thank you for that. that, that speculation is just interesting to try and get into that bad. you mentioned the nuclear power plant in separation, in se you crate. that's an active a plant. how much bigger is the risk there? well again, so under normal operations there is no risk at all because sir safety culture in your grid and nuclear power plants is very high and says, monitored by topic energy agency. but to when's a concord they say start should include the project house at the buildings, and these are some damage, even director buildings. so it's completely unpredictable. so if it's in take it sir. in fact it's ok. but if her stuff like that will repeat or happen again, nobody can predict the results. so it's really dangerous. yes. for talking to thank you so much for joining us. so for them to mac,
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from ukraine's national research center for radiation medicine. okay. it's mostly my pleasure. are in ukraine, it felt volunteers are working to evacuate thousands of civilians in the east living with daily and nightly russian artillery shallow. the hand bare hiding out in basements and shelters. many without electricity, gas, or water. this man is being evacuated from his home in hockey trap in his flat. it is a miracle he survived. no new in. they've been bombarding us all day and all night now sheila blew up in the beginning. it was quiet her night sparkling. the bombing only happened during the day, but later they begun bombing at night to will not live with our military hit here in the yard, but i really feel who would war har. keith has endured
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a barrel of russian attacks. constance shelling has reduced much of the city to ashes. now some 50 residents have been evacuated from gun frontline neighbourhood. they have been taken to shelters where they hoped to be safe about 400 kilometer south safety is still a distant dream. russian forces continue to pummel the other style. steel factory the last pocket of resistance and merrier pole. the port city has been under siege for weeks now. most of it has been wiped out by russian bombardment. the dire fate of mary poll has been a warning to other ukrainian cities to protect them. ukraine's president vladimir zalinski has asked alice for more support few, every one in the world, even those who openly did not support us here, now agrees that the fate of europe,
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the fate of global security and the fate of the democratic wisdom is being decided in ukraine and it seems like his calls for greater diplomatic efforts are being hurt with dozens of nations willing to support ukraine in a war that it simply cannot win on its own. now ukraine has accused russia of trying to fuel unrest in russia back separatist region of moldova autopay to ukrainian president. a vladimir landscape has written on twitter that moscow wants to destabilize a chance. mystery of reach of violence is flagged and the error in the last 2 days fueling fears a conflict in neighboring ukraine could spill over to radio towers used to broadcast russian news. now scrap metal. the blast site in moldova is just 5 kilometers from the ukranian border. so far, no one has claimed responsibility. and that is elena red light as the our analysis
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shows their attentions between various forces who are interested and destabilizing this region in this, that means that out see glasses, you know, if you'd like, it won't take. so this is a complex and tens situation. but we will arrange vigilant, and we'll take all necessary measures to prevent escalation, to strengthen our security and to protect our citizens. so you know, there was we must remain calm that he would stay informed using verified sources and avoid distributing false information with you know, the explosion of the radio towers was the 2nd unclaimed attack this week in the moldova, separatists region of trans mystery. of the 1st was on the state security ministry and tear us bull. tensions in the region have been high since russia invaded ukraine. moscow has suggested it wants to create
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a land corridor along southern ukraine, between trans mystery and russian controlled territories in eastern ukraine. it's believed russia keeps around $1500.00 troops and trans nestea. and analysts say the area could be used to launch an attack on ukraine. the region remained pro russian after the collapse of the soviet union, but the international community considers at part of moldova. moldova authorities have raised the country, is terror alert to its highest level there worried the war in ukraine could spill across the border into trans mystery. and then to the rest of the country. to speed up the news line from berlin. not since you're up to date more world news at the top of the our up next here on the w. a highlights of upon does not match day 31 and kick off. i'm with
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