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sat down with the russian president urging him to engage in dialogue to stop the war aid you cried. and talk of a different kind here in germany, we'll look at how dozens of nations have come together. they coordinate efforts to supply ukraine with heavier and better weapons, not just to stop russia, but to end the threat of a russian invasion for good. i'm feel, go in berlin and this is the day. ah, the extremely interested in finding ways in order to create the conditions for effective dialogue, we are committed to a negotiated solution. we are also committed to a cease fire. you create conditions for a peaceful sleep you exactly what we're doing every day. declaring humanitarian corridors which are being ignored,
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as it is clear that there are 2 different positions on what is happening in class. i know about your concerns regarding russia's military operations in dom fast in ukraine. also coming up more arms for ukraine under pressure for being too cautious. germany now offers heavy weaponry. so just how big a policy shift is, iss today we will support ukraine with anti aircraft tanks of the gephart model. carbon does this, can that is precisely what ukraine needs right now to secure its air space from the ground that's been made clear again here today. germany is ready and willing open to the day and we begin with un secretary general and tony good cherish in moscow. pushing for dialogue with russia and the sci fi and ukraine, describing himself as an ambassador for peace. mister terrace met with russian
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leaders, including the man, the world blames for starting this war. president vladimir putin. the talks held across a long table at the kremlin lasted about an hour. president putin is reported to have told the secretary general that he still had hopes, indigo, c ations with keith and diplomacy. it's more than a booster, despite the fact that the military operation is ongoing. we still hope that we won't be able to reach agreement on the diplomatic track. this is the delay in the debate. we are negotiating. we don't reject talks, go them, said you. well, yeah, i, mr. guitar is also held more extensive talks with the russian foreign minister. so game of rav un chief proposed setting up a humanitarian contact group with ukraine and russia. the go to set up safe corridors to protect civilians walking a careful diplomatic line in moscow. he called for an investigation into possible war crimes and ukraine. also stressing that dialogue would be key to ending the war
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. i know that we have today facing the complex situation. you can different interpretations about what's great that does not limit the possibility of a very serious dialogue or know best. we can work to minimize the suffering, create the conditions for effective dialogue, create the conditions for a ceasefire as soon as possible, create the conditions for a peaceful solution or creating the conditions for peace and on effective dialogue . still appears to be a long way away. foreign minister love rov insisted that russia was in favor of resolving the conflict in ukraine, said bilateral peace talks weren't working. use the word depressing to describe how the key delegation were behaving and reject it for now any mediator role in that negotiations. a positive issue. there has been no talk of mediation,
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at least for the time being up. the cranium and russian negotiating teams meet face to face. they have met 3 times in bella, reese. once they met on turkish territories of these are negotiating platforms. we are grateful to those countries for their hospitality, for organizing these talks. however, speaking about media age is at this stage is in my opinion, i mature, not done with from one another. so let's examine the role of the un and of diplomacy in this conflict with jonathan katz. he's a resident fellow and director of moccasin initiatives with the german marshal fund based in washington. d. c. is an expert on foreign policy and defense corporation, and has held a long list of jobs in us government. welcome to d w. so today we have mr. gutierrez telling russia that it's actions in ukraine, contravene international law is called for dialogue and for a ceasefire. and for the establishment of humanitarian corridors, is he saying all these things?
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because that's what the secretary general of the u. n. is supposed to say, or did he really go to moscow expecting vladimir putin to suddenly see the error of his ways? i think that the you and has already spoken, we've seen a number of resolutions coming through the un condemning, including in the general assembly with hundreds of nations condemning rushes, actions in ukraine. a rush has been kicked off the human rights council in geneva. and so the un secretary general knows exactly what's happening right now, but, but clearly in his role he is trying to move a possible ceasefire, which he mentioned in his conversations in moscow. and try to get, at least at this moment, to try to get the fighting to stop. so it is a role of the un secretary general to take on these tasks. but i think the secretary general knows full well what's taking place here. he's use language that clearly places the blame for what's taking place on russia. and what we're seeing
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right now, of course, is atrocities taking place. so there's very little room for negotiation right now. and russia could immediately, if it wanted to, you could pull back its troops, stop it's, it's war in ukraine and create conditions that can lead to a different situation than it is right now. and that does not seem in the cards. you see that, that, that's my point really, that russia knows what's going on with mr. law problems to put, to have a stupid when mr. good terrorist go. is that and make face pronouncements. he goes that knowing that people will say one thing to his face and the actions on the ground will be different. so is he just committed to saying a doing these things because that's what you have to do? well, there's been multiple efforts of were leaders to speak to mr. putin, mr. lab rather than others, to get them to do the right thing. and one could argue that sitting there with mr.
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poo and mr. elaborate, you're absolutely walking into a situation where they're going to lie there, they're going to spin this information. this is what they've done over the last couple of months and before the current conflict. and so the secretary general's in some ways is stepped into a situation where it's unlikely to be favorable, but where he's also sitting next to a liar and someone who's committing wor, atrocities. so it's a, it's a very awkward position. and i share mr. mr. lensky presence, unless he's concerns, it would have been good for the un secretary general to headed to ukraine 1st, to see what's happening there. i understand that he will go and we'll see president soleski, but i think it was a mistake not to go to a t key at 1st and to ukraine 1st. right. but we're always told, of course, that negotiations are better than bull. let's say here from the u. s. secretary of state anthony blank and talking about ukraine to the u. s. senate foreign relations
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committee. our purpose is to make sure that they have within their hands the ability to repel the russian aggression. and indeed to strengthen their hand at an eventual negotiating table. we've seen no sign to date. the president putin is serious about meaningful negotiations if he is. and if the ukrainians engage will support that. so those are the cats from your experience in your state department and elsewhere. having seen what appears to be the bad faith of the russian states in so many of these negotiations. do you anticipate that better sort of back channel negotiations going on away from t v cameras? well, this certainly, as we know there's, there's platforms, doors in both, and belarus and turkey. there's other world leaders that we have seen, including israeli officials and others try to play in mediating role. and so secretary blanking was absolutely right about providing ukraine with the weapons.
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it needs right now to provide for security to strengthen its hand. so that when there is an opportunity to negotiate, that we can take those steps. and so i think for the united states and others doing this right now, providing those weapons, providing non military support, economic support is really critical. and so there are likely to be back channel, front channel communications, some of which we see in this wouldn't be unexpected, but they're not successful right now, because russia is really ready is not ready to come to the table and is not willing to pull back. so it just, it, are you, are you effectively saying that that nobody negotiates, nobody talks, until the whole thing gets bombed to a standstill. it's only a bat points, but that's one side. oh, the other says, alright that let's actually start to tow. now i may remember that these there were even talked early on in this conflict between ukrainians and russians to work with
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me yet. but there were, there were talks about talks and talks. it was clear that but the tools were held in good faith. but my point really is and do, do you only do do, do you only go see 8 sincerely when you've been left with no of an option when you, when, as a se, one side or the other has been bumped to a standstill? i think, i think in this case, we're seeing this, the 2nd phase of this conflict of where rush is now concentrating in the dom bus per predominantly. and i think russia is not gonna come to the negotiating table until mister pruett and things he's achieved. his objectives for the ukrainians on their side. it's to repel, pushed back, re take the territories that were taken previously, and then to have a security arrangement in place and an economic security plan in place that they feel comfortable with. now both sides and not at that point, but negotiations are conversations continue. and that's why you see the, you at secretary general in, in moscow,
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even if we think it's not gonna amount to much. and it's why you hear of people like secretary blake and speak to, you know, putting ukraine in the right position to be able to negotiate when the time is right. and, and clearly, right now, that isn't in the courts. russia is not coming to the table and ukraine is not going to back down in the face of atrocities. and that's why you see this mass of support coming from the west coming from germany in particular, including the weapons that are being provided now. and that's going to continue. and so i think unfortunately, until we get to a moment where we can, where both sides are, particularly russia, is willing to pull back in terms of use of military. i think it's unlikely we're going to see any, any end to this conflict soon. good talk with you. thank you for joining us. jumping catch from the german marshal and you, ah, and countries all around the world have been stopping up to meet ukraine's urgent
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news. and i wanted to especially walker, my major decision by our german host of the minister lawn brooks. a mouse just to day the germany wilson and ukraine, some 50 chiva aircraft systems. i was there. you are secretary of state lloyd asked in on germany's decision to send heavy weapons to ukraine. general government has been under pressure at home and abroad over its long held policy not to send arms into active conflicts. the anti aircraft systems known as cheater or gephardt tanks will therefore be the 1st such delivery. the policy shift was announced at germany's ramstein air base, where at a, at a gathering of defense ministers and military leaders from round of 40 countries, many of whom are not nato members, as well as the tank shipment and germany is also authorized. the training of ukrainian soldiers and german soil in conjunction with the american military, the u. s. air base and unstained germany. this is where the united states and its
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allies pledged new packages of ever heavier weapons for ukraine during meeting on tuesday. that was hosted by us defense secretary, lloyd austin. we don't have any time to waste the briefings like today, laid out clearly why the coming weeks will be so crucial for ukraine. so we gotta move at the speed of war. and i know that all the leaders leave to day more resolved than ever to support ukraine in his fight against russian aggression . the day kicked off with a surprise in a notable policy shift. germany, which had been criticized for refusing to send heavy weapons to ukraine, announced it would now send, get part anti aircraft systems the ambient, i don't think we've made the decision that it's now important to support. and he air craft offends us that can be done with
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a good parts and is exactly what's on the list of what ukraine needs. and that is what we coordinated with others are now making possible. we'll continue doing this, my dad for not every one in berlin. well, come to a decision. since miss increased by the problematic germany doesn't even have enough military equipment for itself in the case of 2 teen totally losing control. loiter. i think it's important. i also think that what the german government is doing is good, but i'm also not sure if offering weapons is actually going to stop to war as well . if i didn't like the degree of hesitancy in the end, i would actually be for aggressive weapons. so heavy machinery people often, i'll go through this because i, in his closing remarks often said the gathering between the us and its allies will not be the last. once a month they'll meet to discuss ukraine's defense needs to help them fight the russian invasion. let's take
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a closer look at that german decision with your hand out. he's a member of the german bond. this talk for the social democrats and sit on the parliament defense committee is also a former officer and the german air force and served in afghan extent. and bobby, welcome to t w sir is germany writes to change his policy i think germany is not changing that much of this policy. we just calling all ready and also not to become a party of conflict on a party of war to help us. not a subsidy grade all capabilities and also a nato. and as well that we don't match low, no germans on the big, close corporations or allies to help the ukraine and is what we're doing and right so, so just so this is a good change of policy. as far as your concern, just wanna be clear about that. as look in the logic of st.
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will no no major european deliver to ukraine. today, this very effective conference was held as often abbot and the important decisions to make. and i welcome this decision also. and, and so explain to us why shipping heavy weapons directly to ukraine was bad last week, but it's ok now it wasn't bad last week. i think our population is also supporting. that'd be cool. haven't and coming over as well. so all the solutions that are available and not solutions coming in at the speed of retreat. so we thought about that who and i think that delivery part of the system is a very good solution to protect ukrainian soda as well as proposed comes the also
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deliver grenade from fire from a tech helicopters, as well as weaponized and russian. yeah, you say it wasn't regarded as, as a bad decision last week. and yet the chancellor was so clearly against this. and you seem to be sort of selling. this is not so much a change more to sort of the nesting of the policy. but you know, it changes the change i would say just the next logical step and others told you we're going in a year for the nations that we did. and this is not today, and we are behind it on the support of ukraine systems. but we also wanted to speak with an after program 2000002000000000 euros. i'm giving the crating the chance to buying equipment. also in germany. we want offense in the street and all supporting emission equipment as well as we did before. so if it's likely to be
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a want to one off exception for ukraine, or is that the old policy of not sending heavy weapons into war zones, not completely abandoned. i think we have a very special case ukraine and they bought 3, but i may also mind you one time sent already went to to to this area. but we also contributed with weapons for the crash. ok. so $11.00 time decision where we look at very each case very closely and then decide what we've done. and so what was it about this conflict, this conflict between russia and ukraine? do you think that has, has so shaken the german government that has prompted this advice and vendor this new era in german defense policy?
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yes. oh, well, you're the best son of a liberal democracy steak and the competition between democratic autocratic systems . we have to all show that our values, the national law and international rules, the all agreed on, including russia and nothing we want to negotiate. we don't want to go back to the old time where we did not have these rules. when i said with all this david ring that the, the chancellor has done over nord stream too, and he's reluctance to send arms. he's been that chancellor shalt has been accused of showing indecisive leadership during this war. do you think that criticism is fair? i think it's not fair, probably he's not the one was communicating every day with a lot of trees because he's developing sustainable solution that takes some time and when it's time and you also communicate his decision and why you need the country. understood. thank you so much for joining us. out. a social democrat, the member of the german bundis. thank you.
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oh, the world health organization's reporting, a dramatic jumping, covey cases of death last week, only 15000 fatalities that worldwide reported about to while welcoming the trend. w . i chose not warning the club meeting test rates are a likely factor, and that's leaving their scientists in the dark. as many countries reduce testing, w to receiving less and less information about transmission and sequencing. this makes us increasingly blind to patterns of transmission and evolution. but this virus won't go away just because countries stop looking for it or one country that hasn't stopped looking for it is china? beijing has ordered mass testing for nearly all of its 21000000 residence. only 70 cases have been found in the time as calculus. it's friday. appraising health
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authorities insist the virus can still be brought under control of the testing order has sparked panic. buying food and other basics and with fears were shanghai style locked out by this patient. residents are willing to speak on camera. believe this city is prepared for. yeah, i don't think there's anything to worry about. the news yesterday said there lot of vegetables and the supplies will last for 30 days. so i'm not worried at all. yeah, no, wait a while to pose up what my old colleague is in shanghai, how you think we had difficulties because for locked down came as a surprise. all sorts of preparations weren't in place. why you thought it might have such a big problem in beijing with our now one webber which was out there with all the data. everyone just needs to sit tight. commodity that i believe is they will pass . i'm confident i heard a garcia about the meal meal. thanks for that will in shanghai authorities are handing out captures that they claim held in the treatment of covered 19 the
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traditional chinese remedy has the government's backing. but there's little to no scientific evidence of its efficacy. the drugs distribution has sparked further outraging cham highway. many people are having trouble getting food. it's not the 1st time traditional chinese medicine, or t. c. m has been used in china's battle against covert 19, but it's distribution among people and shanghai has been unprecedented. millions of batches of the homeopathic capsule, young watching, one were handed out to people under locked down this month. so it's long says she and her 4 flat mates received 6 boxes. i actually, we don't take it because, ah, from the social media i that i follow. it's not for like hearing your intense, it's not preventing you from that co. esa, either young watching once ingredients include honeysuckle, licorice, rude,
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and other herbs, t c. m practitioner say it can help suppress fever and sore throat, but health experts. one, it's not an alternative to vaccines. doctors also say people shouldn't take the medicine unless they feel unwell. it's known to cause serious side effects, including kidney and liver disease. leading chinese neurologists recently hit out at the promotion of young watching when he questioned why had received delivery priority in shanghai. when many people under locked on were struggling with access to food. we think that and, and she is stuck, miss more on that basic nice for their paper. reports have also linked china's health don, luncheon with the maker of the pill, eeling pharmaceutical john guides chinas cove at 19 policy. as head of the national health commission. he said to have received funding from ealing for his own medical foundation and also signed
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a corporation agreement with the company. but beijing's also strongly back the t. c . m. industry worth some 60000000000 a year, according to the world health organization. the promotion of this, this kind of medical market is something that certainly being encouraged, the dia, being that if the, if this industry can be developed to a certain level of maturity where some very highly effective drugs are developed than you know these, these can become part of the more mainstream mix of different types of treatments, not only domestically, but also internationally. the debate over the use of t c. m. has even taken on the nationalistic tone. people criticizing it, have been accused of betraying china. politics. he has seemed to once again be trumping scientific efforts to beat cobit 19. finally, a show of solidarity from one of germany's biggest football clubs brochure,
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dormant hosted ukrainian club dino. keep an eye charity friendly match on tuesday evening to raise money for victims of a war in ukraine. match at sigma. it do ha attracted a crowd of 35000 and raised 400000 euros of humanitarian causes, in crane. and according to the hosts, i did a marquee for who won the game 3 to like a number of such friendlies on a european tour, as they seek to raise money for the victims of the russian. well the day is almost done, but the conversation continues unbind. you can find this on twitter at d, w, you can call me at filled with with
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