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[000:00:00;00] ah ah, this is the w, news ly, from berlin. the new front and putins war. russia says it has halted gas supplies to poland and bulgaria. ukraine accuses moscow, black mailing europe over energy, also coming up. or you turn from germany on sending heavy weapons to ukraine. after much criticism, berlin now says it will deliver anti across system to key and explosions,
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destroy radio towers in a breakaway region of moldova, that is backed by russia. fueling fears that the conflict in ukraine could spill over. ah, i'm get had elf as well come to the program. russia state controlled energy company gas prom has announced that is cutting gas deliveries to both poland and bulgaria. neither of the nations have complied with the demand from russia's president vladimir putin to start paying for these deliveries in roubles. several other you nations, including germany, are also yet to comply, and a heavily reliant on russian gas is what polish prime minister mateusz. moreover, etzky had to say about this cut off in the act like a no patricia, as i have emphasized many times,
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poland has prepared to diversify its gas supplies and to obtain gas from various sources and not even before the baltic. gas pipeline enters service. we will be able to protect our economy, stronger, protect our households and poles, people against such a dramatic step by russia and clock in as is thrown at us. a little earlier i spoke to journalists young polo cut in warsaw and asked him if poland will cope without russian gas as the polish prime minister said, well, officially, they can. and they have good reasons to say. so m giving the fact that the deposits here in poland are according to officials that are pretty much filled as to 2 thirds of its a cap capacity. a given the fact that the heating season is almost over and giving the fact that poland indeed built alternative routes. they built a, a terminal for liquid natural gas at the baltic sea. they are about to finalize.
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the already mentioned here in the statement and baltic pipeline swap, the baltic sea and which could deliver norwegian gas, add to poland as for starting for october. so putting all these things together, poland can't cope, but of course l n g guess from overseas and norwegian gas is much more expensive than m is much more expensive, excuse me, is much more expensive than siberian gas. so the real challenge may be even higher inflation numbers and pollen is already a suffering high inflation numbers. now, many other european countries have refused to follow putin's demands to pay for russian garzon roubles. what does this step now mean for them? do they need to worry? i think really indeed that this is the point here. this seems to me rather a warning signal to other countries than to poland. there are countries that are much less prepared for the situation that is hungry. that is austrian,
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that is last not least germany, which having it's deposits rather rather lowly, as filled with having much less alternative routes. the jamal pipeline, which goes through poland in and in germany, is not the main root of russian gas to play. we still have not stream, we still have roots via ukraine, and if they would cut it all, then we could see shortfalls and gas supply all over europe and a real test for european solidarity since the gas system in the european union is very much interconnected. so the germans, germans, minister for economy and energy, robert harbert, promised that germany will help out poland. but then germany, gas reserves at the moment, are at a very low point. how realistic is that? what maybe it comes to point when it polish aside could help germany. and there could be interesting questions on the table. for instance, the question where the polish households would be ready to accept lower temperatures and a threat in order and to keep german chemical industry running. but very
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interesting the. so yesterday german minister here promised to use it german national oil reserves. and in case that the refinery and sheet at the border river between poland and germany at the order would fail. this refinery is using russian oil at the moment. seems to be the main obstacle towards a full scale. all embargo and, and this is important here. this refinery delivers not only the greater berlin region, but also parts of poland was all products. last question, a briefly, if you can, or how has this latest moved by vladimir putin to cut off gas applies to poland, influence the mood in poland in the general public? well, this was of course, utopia. yes, the day to day we're talking already about what i mentioned about inflation rates. so i think this step camp's as a surprise for this very moment, but not so surprisingly, and the, and putting hit a client that was already on the run was already about to go. because they are
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prepared for other supplies. poland already said that they would not prolong the existing gas contracts, which would exceed any way until the end of the year. so it's a surprise, but not a huge surprise system. so very much a political move there as well by let me put in. thank you very much. john pollock, are journalist corresponded for german broadcaster a r d nancy w, corresponded to rebecca route as it is in care of and as she joins me from bear, rebecca russia is trying to put pressure on poland on both bog area by cutting them off from their gas supply, what's been the reaction there in ukraine to that move well, as you, alaska guess, just said there get hot. i mean, perhaps a shock, but not really that much of a surprise is president zalinski is a chief of staff has come out saying this is the beginning of russia. black maley, europe. it's trying that it's trying to dis, unify the allies. and a bit of reiterated calls, basically that they'd be making all along that europe needs
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a full embargo on russian gas and oil in order for them not to be it for russia, not to be getting the money which they then then use to, to, to fund this war, so i think you crime probably, i'm not surprised and, and hopeful now that europe might make some changes to their policies faster than scheduled. we know that some european countries have said that they will try and by the end of the year and not be importing russian gas and oil, but ukraine, definitely hoping that that will speed up. now let's move to the situation. are there on the ground, vladimir putin clamps fighting has now ended in murray. you pull. what are you hearing about the situation there? that is what he said, but the last that we've heard from mary, you paul is very hard to get real time information out of that received city as you can imagine. but the last we heard it is still being sheldon. fighting is ongoing. we know that those remaining ukrainian troops are in that as of steel plant,
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as well as some civilians. and if you marry a humanitarian corridor is trying to be agreed on. so to, for their evacuation. the un secretary general antonio terrace was in russia yesterday talking to vladimir putin about that corridor view and has offered to support that, you know, even bring in peacekeepers to aid that evacuation. but at this stage, it remains to be seen whether or not will be successful. we are expecting un secretary general antonio terrorist to be here in keith tomorrow to to continue discussions about that with vladimir. excellent, i'm sorry with val autumn is zalinski, but obviously, you know, this is something that is going to require trust. and that is something that's very thin on the ground between ukraine and russia. you mentioned trust between ukraine and russia. there's been a huge soviet era start to it in keith where you are, that has just been dismantled. tell us more about that. that's right. not far from
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where i'm standing there hard. yesterday they dismantled that statue that you talking about that symbolized friendly relations between the 2 countries. it was built in 1982 and during the soviet union to celebrate 60 years of the soviet union . obviously, the relationship has changed a lot, not something that a key the key of mer has said yesterday. he was basically said, you know, did that, does very different relationship that the 2 countries have now. and it's not appropriate to have that statue in the city any more did of you correspondence, rebecca, which is the reporting from t. thank you. rebecca. russia says it has made significant territorial against the east on the south of you crime, claiming it has capture to the entire carson region. meanwhile, in the capital key, if authorities dismantled us, we've just heard a soviet era monument once a symbol of friendship,
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between russia and ukraine. this monument is now merely a reminder of the betrayal. keith has decided to demolish the statue. 2 months of to russia invaded ukraine tape on the exam when he saw this monument used to symbolize the friendship between ukraine and russia on. but now we see what this friendship is. the destruction of ukrainian cities ruining the lives of ukrainians, killing tens of thousands of peaceful people. receptive bases from wherever, where it goes. you, i am convinced a monument like this has an entirely different meaning. now, ours whistle me a few kilometers away. president zalinski visited children at a hospital. they had been evacuated from the devastated southern port city of mary paul hankey, that many lost their parents in the fighting. we open it, as of the landscape, has warned that attacks in the south will intensify, look of a loan that show it today. russian troops kept launching missiles,
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strikes on our land, particularly in the odessa region, and they kept up their attacks in our troops near her. keep in dawn, bass shoots. and what does this give russia? only new losses rushes defense ministry says they have now taken control of the entire southern region of carson. but earlier, ukraine's military said, russia was not able to break through its defense line. meanwhile, fighting in the east and on bass region is ongoing. ukrainian forces say that russia has continued to show villages, like here in alexandria cur. the army was able to evacuate many civilians from the area while it stays behind to fight. un secretary general antonio good terrace and russian president vladimir putin met face to face on tuesday for the 1st time since russia invaded ukraine. the un chief criticized
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rushes invasion as a violation of its neighbors, territorial integrity, put and told the secretary general that he still had hopes for negotiations with keith. the 2 also discussed proposals for humanitarian assistance and the evacuation of civilians from comfort zones, including the besieged, southeastern city of murray on flu. now, did i view correspond emily sherman is with me in the studio now? good morning, emily. has the you inserted general's visit to moscow, produced anything substantial, or that makes an end of the one ukraine more likely. i'm not sure about the end of the war, but when it comes to concrete results, put in and good harish apparently agreed that the u. n. and the red cross will be involved in evacuations of civilians from the as of styles. steel plant and mar, you pull, that's a huge steel plan that has been besieged by russia. it's almost like
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a city within the city. and there's an estimated 2000 soldiers in there, but also around a 1000 us civilians. apparently that would be significant if an international organization is involved in the evacuation of civilians from mario, paul. but on the other hand, putin, they're claiming that ukrainian soldiers, again, claiming that ukrainian soldiers were using civilians as human shields. we've heard that quite a bit from other russians in recent weeks. so we have to kind of wait and see whether there are any concrete results. i would say there wasn't a break through, but this was, you know, symbolically important, that garage even came to russia, potentially dialogue could prevent things getting even worse in ukraine. that's true, or definitely a good thing, but does the kremlin take the un sushi as as a mediator? how much of an influence does get her as heifer? i would say that russia does take the un seriously as a mediator or the foreign minister sergei lover, who also met gutierrez yesterday, is known to kind of quote,
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whole articles from the un charter to justify russia's actions. and also gutierrez, got a meeting with put in himself even if they were at the long table again, far away from each other. but i think that good harish was quite strategic in his meeting. first of all, as they said, he came to moscow, which is important symbolically, this is kind of one of the 1st really high profile diplomatic efforts meetings is with put in himself. and also he said that the un understands russia, security concerns that you might remember this all started over the fact that russia was saying, nato is getting too close to our borders. we don't want ukraine to join nato. so in a way that's kind of him taking a symbolic step towards russia's interest, i think, a world today's a major headlines, of course, is russia holding a gas supplies to bulgaria and a poland while continue to supply others. germany, for example. what's put of strategy here? i think that this is put in essentially throwing his weight around russia,
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throwing its weight around around a month ago, already put in warned that of countries on a list of so called unfriendly countries, which is an ever growing list, including basically the entire e u at this point we'll have to pay for gas in rubles, and poland and bulgaria are apparently not fulfilling that condition at the moment, which is why they are halting and the supplies to those 2 countries. as with the russian side said. but of course, it's clear that this is a political, this isn't just about contracts. they're making an example. i think of poland on and bulgaria, you mentioned germany just now. i think the timing of this move is significant. just yesterday, germany announced that they would be us supplying for the 1st time, heavy military equipment to ukraine, and germany is a very important client when it comes to gas for russia. i think this is a clear warning to other e u countries and it's kind of rush and put in taking control of the narrative against the backdrop, of course, of the e. u threatening
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a gas and oil embargo against russia. emily, so in that thank you very much, emily and as emily, as just mentioned in somewhat of a u turn and policy, germany says it now will sent heavy weapons to ukraine to help fight off rushes. invasion at the u. s. lead meeting of defense and military leaders. on tuesday, german defense minister, christina lambert, said germany would supply 50 of its depart, anti aircraft systems, also known as cheaters. the decision follows weeks of internal strife and sharp international criticism. regarding berlin's previous reluctance to sent at the weapons. so how much of a difference could these german anti air systems make in the ukrainians fight against russia, the russians? i put that question to frank lead, which is a former military intelligence officer. now, lecturers in military capabilities and strategy at the university of portsmouth
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concerning the weapons themselves. they got an old design, but they've been modernized, they've been out of service from in a german. i'm only about 10 years. and many are. we still use an extremely formidable short range, but if you're a pilot, there's nothing you can do about them. if you get near same applies by the way, the british vehicles they sent, but it's not only directly affected, but the possession of it keeps, keeps, it keeps aircraft away, it's a deterrent. but what's significant gerhardt is that the most recent trying to weapons deliveries from the west, not only note or the suite as well, or interesting for another reason. all of these now nato standard items that different from the soviet stuff that east european nations been passing on and will continue to. now there's also training implications in this because you can't just hand over these, these gephart and expect people to use and their radar guided guns are quite complex. it will take a few weeks to train on that. so i will be fairly certain, it will be a training package, but that's going to continue. so what we're seeing now,
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nato standard equipment being sent institutionally continually to the ukraine used to. and that, that does change things. i think because it winds nato even closer into the conflict. zooming out and get a more general picture of that conflict. russia claims it's making advances in several parts of east and ukraine. what are you seeing? i ukrainian forces losing their grip in the east. i don't think so for the 2nd time in a week, the russians declared that they captured christina in the far east of the se in the bus where fighting is taking place. because what they don't announce a little villages and towns the ukrainians, nibbling back out encounter attacks. i think from the russian perspective, quite a disappointing 1st week or 10 days of this particular campaign. they've been pressing all along that 500 or maybe 500 kilometer front. they've been looking for breakthroughs. that's what they do as many mom would do. but they simply don't
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really have to mass to exploit any breakthrough if they were to make it. and the problem they face now is that they're getting into heavily fortified ukrainian towns to barrow. don't ask those student, well, if they succeed, they'll be getting towards chrome. a toss. great is know they've been coming. what ukrainians will do is create other mario poles. 4 to 5 times it will take a lot of time and a lot of casualties even come close to reducing. now the us sector of to friends said yesterday he thinks ukraine can win this war. do you agree? as with everything else, go hunt. what constitutes women from the ukrainian perspective, of course that would be expelling all the invading forces. what they certainly can do, i think at the moment, absent any significant escalation is hold the russians off. they may have to give some ground there in the east. obviously that last that car go down to crimea. the issue is over the next weeks,
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months and yes as secretary blank and hinted possibly years is whether the ukrainians can gather enough force to retake the ground that they had lost. that's a very different matter. but what this is, as he said, to deeply consented our yesterday, it's a long term prospect. now we need to look at it strategically. so we'll see the answers on the battlefield. we don't know yet. franklin lead was there. thank you very much. there's a growing that the conflict could spill over into neighboring countries, such as moldova, the un, as called for calm them after a series of explosions, targeted radio mos used to broadcast russian programs in the breakaway territory of trends near the area is backed by russia and been under the control of separatists since they fought a war with moldova some 30 years ago. around 1500 russian troops are based in the
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region. more now on the incident that have been raising tensions there in the last few days. to radio towers used to broadcast russian news, now scrap metal, the blast site in moldova is just 5 kilometers from the ukranian border. so far, no one has claimed responsibility. and that is elena red flags as the our analysis shows their attentions between various forces who are interested in destabilizing this region. this, that means that out see glycogen. yo as supplied in complex. so this is a complex and tens situation. but we will arrange vigilant, and we'll take all necessary measures to prevent escalation, to strengthen our security and to protect our citizens when there was, we must remain calm and he would stay informed using verified sources and avoid distributing false information with you know,
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the explosion of the radio towers was the 2nd unclaimed attack this week in the moldova separatist region of trans, neater. the 1st was on the state security ministry, inter rosabelle. tensions in the region have been high since russia invaded ukraine . moscow has suggested it wants to create a land corridor, a long southern ukraine between trans mr and the russian controlled territories and eastern ukraine. it's believed russia keeps around $1500.00 troops and trans. mr. and analysts say the area could be used to launch an attack on ukraine. the region remained pro russian after the collapse of the soviet union, but the international community considers it part of moldova. ukrainian president vladimir zalinski said he believed the recent attacks were orchestrated by moscow and that his country is prepared for any offensive from that direction. just a solution to change a class for the russian troops that have been constantly stationed in a temporarily occupied territories of moldova, in particular and trans,
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mr. we know that they're in constant combat readiness, waiting for an order. his name must show only faustine hopefulness, g chicka deutsch angel. now can we know their power and will you what ukrainian armed forces are prepared for them and are not afraid of them? nimbly, moldova and authorities have raised the country's terror alert to its highest level . they're worried, the war in ukraine could spill across the border into trends. nice to her, and then to the rest of the country. i'm a joint by dana, i've sandra charlotte, she's the head of dw is romanian service. a donna, no one has a glimpse responsibility for the a blasts and trust mr. what are the different sides saying for the one president, maya sanders said that pro or force is from inside trans. nice joe. we're behind the attacks. and these forces wanted to destabilize the situation in the region. on the other hand of class, most ascii, the leader of the pro,
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ration separatist interests. and he's dra even suggested that the traces of the attack could lead to ukraine and asked ukraine to investigate the whole situation. ukraine accused russia of trying to create unrest, interest, nice drought and mandala ends. the ukrainian presidents lensky. stress that ukrainian forces are prepared for a possible attack. wrong trans nice jail. furthermore, in russian media, they were even fake news that there are many an army that had troops in my line planned an attack on transistor, which of course is false. and the romanian minister of the penis disclaimed these fake news and a high ranking russian official even talked about a so called nancy government in little by in case you know, that was held by the romanian protectors. and that the so called nazis should be destroyed. like in the case of ukraine,
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very difficult situation there on the ground. can you give us some context there on the transmission? what's it relationship like with moldova, also with russia? well, the pro ration separate this entrance, these area split from the republic of mando at the beginning of the ninety's after a brief war. and in this war they were also supported by russia. the situation is still very complicated. 30 years after this war. so russian troops are still permanently stationed in front. nice drea and the separatist government of france, these 2 are the so called government does not recognize the government thing he she know them although when government so what does this mean for moldova seemingly precarious position between russia and the west? the situation is very complicated. one model about on the one hand, amandola is neutral. so it's
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a state of neutrality is even underlined its constitution. it has on the one hand condemned of the attack on ukraine, but it does not adopted any sanctions against russia. but of course, this state of neutrality does not mean that the country cannot become the next victim of russian aggression. so many people, our correspondence thought a 2 in my doorway from public intellectuals, from security experts to symbol farmers in small villages. in this ex soviet republic said that they were very afraid of a possible russian again, aggression against their country. and this is perfectly understandable because of course, they have this frozen conflict entrance. nice dry russian troops are stationed there. and the science of from russia are not really encouraging from alova. we'll just just consider that last week, a high ranking russian commander said that a part of the operation was to create
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a corridor the from eastern ukraine through southern u granger. trans nissan. done a sale of that. thank you very much. that's it from me. and that is team for now. up next is the ws environment show because in the office, in berlin, from in the news team with, [000:00:00;00]
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