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not raising our hopes in that regard, and that's why the 25000000 tons of grain. i'm still stored in ukraine in port. this is the grain that the world need so urgently. and it's going to be incredibly important to ex, export this because otherwise it won't just be this harvest that will fail. but the next harvest will fail because it can't be brought into the sailors, which are full of them. and you said to i should be as specific as possible. so that's why we have looked together at what alternatives we have to maritime shipping. normally, $5.00 to $6000000.00 tons that could be exported to per month, but that can only be done on through maritime shipping. so now we're looking at the rail line approach. we don't do it, but we need to be aware of the fact that we can only get far less grain coming out of ukraine. but every ton that is exploited can help you to mitigate the starvation crisis ahead. i'm good,
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awesome. i'm full time. a fraction is being exploited that through and rail transport via romania, but that's where the bottleneck is. and the devil's always in the details that ukraine has a different rail, not bread. and so that makes it difficult to bring the trains on to poland. i just found that out traveling by train myself there you lose a lot of time because that has to be a shift of the track wits. and that means that you can't just send the under a freight train carriages for a straight out of ukraine. so we're looking at how we can get it via the baltics and the baltic ports, but then you have to be able to get the grain to the baltic port. so you see, i'm afraid there isn't a perfect solution that i can present to you now, and there won't be a perfect solution as long as ukraine has been bombed by russia. but we are looking at how we can use braille transport to get grain out of ukraine,
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because every week counts in which we can ensure that at least more than as leaving ukraine via romania gets out of the country. and we're doing this together with the ukranian side, the united nations and the european commission. thank you. richard walker, deutsch of ellen, many sanks of minister burbock and you're moving on to earth. nato foreign ministers talks, of course, rach, up type ad one. i made a surprise comment yesterday suggesting that he did not support sweden and finland joining the alliance, accusing them of harboring terrorist groups. and what's your response to that, and what is your message to reach her type or the one who appears to have given rather a nice gift to vladimir putin? he had his lung, sir, in all every country in europe. it was on a business cotton as on an over then if a cannot aliana cry and have really decide about its alliance partners or its
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defense alliance partners, either in the same is true for sweden and finland and the government i belong to has said very clearly that we more than to support finland and sweden's accession to nato. these are both strong countries in terms of their own defense capabilities . and for that reason alone, their membership in nato would strengthen nato. and they are strong democracies who have lived with all of their neighbors for decades peacefully. and for this reason as well, every democratic country would be pleased that damage, countries that have strong defense capabilities could make our own alliance stronger. and i'd like to say i knew in no uncertain terms, it wasn't nato that convinced finland and sweden, or pushed vin on and sweden to join nato. it was entirely down to the behavior and actions of the russian president because he has basically
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forced them into this alliance because they wanted to live peacefully with their neighbors. and i very much hope that there accession is approved alexander. but now from reuters, unheard of. no sorry, holger. my love from her. i must minister with clayton shells. minister quality lock you sir minister. the ukrainian foreign minister calais but said that it was the g is also it was ukraine that made g 7 strong? is that right? would you say to that? it was ukraine that gave g 7 a new lease on life. and you are also debating with one of your other ministers. is it important for the west within the framework of g 7 at g 20 rather to sit down at one table with putin. what's your view on that thing? and i feel like i also want to thinking about new finish wells if i haven't been a foreign minister for too long. but i think our 1st meeting was, of course,
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very much alive as well. but this flagrant breach of international law that russian, i'm committed when it invaded ukraine, has made us join forces in an intensity in an organization that was primarily focused on the economic side of the equation. now we realized that we are as partners sharing values. we are also responsible for the piece in this world and for the peace structure in europe. and since ukraine i'm in london said gotta are paying and defending their own country, paying with their lives and have ensured that we are in constant good discussion with them because they're not just standing up for their own countries and their own values, but also the values for which a g 7 stems, which is why g 7 has grown even stronger. so i'm asking, like i said there's on the 1st day of our g 7 meeting that is thumbs as g 7 foreign
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minister as we've discussed. so many issues in the last 2 and a half months in a, in a way. probably we haven't discuss issues issues in the past and ukraine certainly plays a key rural role here. then with regard the question of g 20 from best law booklet dasa, i'm not any guy just saying about, you know, the west. i think it is a geo strategic division of the world that doesn't really fit to the world in 2022. the 141 countries who condemned this war of aggression of russia and ukraine . these are not western countries. these 141 countries make it clear that the international community has been attacked with this war in the global south, in the north and east and in the west. and we as the strongest industrialized countries among the democracies, which is what g 7 is for me, our partners sharing values. and we are massively in favor of the group of those
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who believe in an international rule of law. and many are the g. 20 partners are among this group but also indo pacific countries, though not all. and this is why it is so important that now not just as that we act not just as g 7, but that we act within the framework of g 20. and that is why my colleagues joined us by live link up. we were just in the u. s. and that shows how close the cooperation is there. we also talked about how in such a difficult situation, where it's a place that needs these kinds of for a, for discussion that we can meet without having to sit down at a table with those who have really are literally bombing such international meetings. we have an opportunity to ask 2 more
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questions where there's an informal meeting that our foreign minister will be hosting. yeah, i mean, this one minister you shot your ukrainian counterpart yesterday called for the g 7 to confiscate russian assets or to create the legal prerequisites for this money or by to be given to ukraine to reconstructed the canadian foreign minister said today that canada is already working on a solution of this kind. so my question to you is, will you on an e, you level be advocating a similar legal change to carrie this out and how do you see the chances? because i'm sure the legal obstacles will be high align. ron wadley, russia is solely responsible, not for that just for this war, that breeches, international law, but also the massive damage in ukraine. you can keep,
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i'm happy to take lunch at the font and russia is responsible for reeking this damage. and so it's only a matter of justice that russia pay for these. this damage has access to frozen legal, frozen assets, as you've already said, is very difficult legally. and there are only a few examples of establish case law in this regard. and this is why meetings of this kind or a real opportunity to look at how we could even clarify these legal issues. and as you've just said, as well, the canadian minister has said that in canada, this is legally possible. but we know with a view to the sanctions that as you appear, then we have a different legal framework care, which is why we are always a little bit later when it comes to placing sanctions. then after canada and the u
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. s. had done it because for example, if we place people on sanctions list, we always have to substantiate these read the reasons for this decision. also that the european court of law, you will approve it or not contest it not. and the same is true for this matter. we have to ensure that internet, it is internationally sound in terms of law, mr. gaz amount from the german press agent. some minister care summons from m. b. c. news. do you agree with the reported assessment at all of american intelligence and british intelligence at the west in these to prepare for a long conflict in ukraine and given all of the issues that we've talked about today, how do you maintain unity in europe and nato? if this fighting and conflict continues over a long period,
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well if i think mr. ha, that was online. my 1st answer is yes, i agree. and to my 2nd answer is how do we ensure this? as we did in the last weeks and months, it was not the case said we agreed on every single issue. even the new members sitting at g 7 table, we didn't re agree on every topic in the world 100 percent in the past. and also, for example, between you and great britain, they are some topics there where we unfortunately disagree. but from the moment on when our international order, when our european peace order has been under and take, we are 100 percent on the same page to defend this international peace order. and this will be and should as long as it needs. and therefore, we will keep up this close cooperation as long ukraine meets us and as long we have
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to defend the international and the european piece order. and now i hope you're thankful that i gave you some time for the final question. duncan, i'm scarred from the doctor. thank you very much. and sca hasn't got your ukrainian, my colleague made very clear yesterday that ukraine when it comes to demanding western fighter jets that they're not going to let up. the counter argument is that the ukrainians can't fly these jets. can you explain to us now? why germany and other jobs 7 member states don't at least say we will do this in the longer term and we will start training ukrainian pilots immediately. and then one last question, could you tell us briefly how you assess the israeli security forces activities at the funeral of a day yesterday in jerusalem when a party of catholic one for them?
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well, 1st of all course upon for the time we bear a great responsibility in this extremely difficult situation. every form of weapons supply that has an important responsibility that goes with it is something that we coordinate with our friends and partners in ukraine, very intensely within the framework of nato. we discussed these things at length, and this is why you for questions regarding future weapons deliveries aren't things that we just announce high very quickly in response to a question at a press conference. we have to look at these then regarding the 2nd part of your question, i am deeply shocked by is sharina black, this death democracies. and that is what we're looking at at this g. 7 meetings rely on courageous journalists for being able to report the truth and do so safely. and therefore they must never be. you know,
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that the target for violence so that they can continue their important work. it is therefore incredibly important to me, and we've made this very, very clear that heard death must be investigated in a transparent manner. and it is all the sad that her funeral could not take place in peace and dignity. personally, i have to say, i am deeply shaken by this fact. even now that when i have not been able to find out a detailed reasons for what occurred, but we are in close exchange and thank you for the press conference. and perhaps we will see each other again, tomorrow evening for, for the press conference. thank you. and that was an lena bear box speaking after the 7 meeting in foreign ministers. and we took that press conference live been
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over as grievers with me in the studio. our chief international editor, richard walker, will make his way to our camera position will speak to him, but you get 1st crack. there's so many notes here, and so many things hit by an a little bit book. one thing i've got circled there is just a sense of urgency and the sense of this moment of just how much is on that plate and how many things there are to solve and move forward. what, what did you make of the speech? exactly that the so many crisis and she said that one crisis does not go away because there's another one unfolding. she spoke a lot about the situation in ukraine, but she also mentioned the pandemic. she mentioned the food crisis, also relating to the blockade. the russian blockade to get this grain ukrainian green to the it world markets that could have consequences to african into asian countries as well. and she said, therefore, it's important to respond in advance and to be proactive when it comes to this crisis and not just doing damage control once it happens. what i think was interesting is that she sat that and we have to earn the trust.

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