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more life starts may 28 on d, w ah ah, this is dw, live from berlin. russia agrees to a deal to evacuate as of south hundreds of ukrainian soldiers or hold up beneath the steel plants in mario ball with supplies running low elsewhere. ukraine is mounting a fierce counter attack, pushing russian troops away from the city of clark, if all the way to the russian border also on the program risking his life to rescue civilians. we meet a former club owner from the besieged city of mario paul,
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who is trying to bring as many people to safety as he can. and from new troops of nato, sweden's prime minister announces her country will apply to join the military alliance . just days off the finland said it would do the same moscow as want of far reaching consequences. ah, i'm girls as well come to the program. the russian defense ministry says it has reached an agreement to evacuate wounded ukrainian soldiers from the besieged as of star steel plant. in the south eastern port of mario poor, hundreds of ukrainian troops remained hold up in bunkers beneath the plant, with supplies running low elsewhere. ukrainian forces have mounted a counter attack in the northeast, pushing russian troops away from the country,
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2nd largest city car. keith also fighting is continuing in the eastern region of lou hands. but even soap, some residence there are reluctance to leave. ukrainian tangs and heavy artillery on their way to the lou hands region. russia has increasingly turned its attention to eastern ukraine, but the ukrainians are making preparations. one of the cities, the artillery is going to as lizzie chancellor, do not every one there is ready to leave despite the russian threat. because you are all coming from your source is doing well. tell me seriously. what are you doing here with the children? do you understand that this is a war zone warriors, oklahoma? yet, there is ways to just right now we have to avoid shelling and make our way through a very difficult situation in order to reach the people we res. but people just sit here and think everything will be fine tomorrow. unfortunately, everything is not fine. we're gonna cut a short angelina back. her mother has been living in a bunker for over
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a month with her 2 children. she doesn't believe the police can bring them to safety in london, but almost unless qualify as well. i know so many people who were evacuated and then simply dropped off on the street. i do not think leaving as an option or the we're right in the room. only 20 kilometers away lies the town of albania. russian state tv claims that it's under russian control. but the ukrainian military says it still has reason to celebrate. it says its troops have pushed russia from the north, eastern city of ha keith. and then then, as far as the border with russia, with ne, to has said that ukraine can win this war. rochelle war in ukraine is still going us will school have planned? they failed to take you. they're pulling back from around cartoon. they're major offensive and almost as sol. russia is not achieving,
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it's a teaching object this. and ukraine has received another moral ability from the countries when in the eurovision song contest. even in the most dire conditions like here in a bunker below the as of style, steel words and variable some soldiers perform the winning song, e z b y e o n e s. oh jesus leslie, i spoke to our correspondent mathias bellinger who's in keith. and i asked him about the impact that the recent losses by the russian military were having on the conflict. yeah. as we have seen, they have been pushed pretty far back in the heart of region almost back to russian territory. um, so things look pretty good there for the ukranian army in the don bus region. that's the 2 of the 2 districts you have just mentioned, ones can't donates the fighting, is still fierce. are the situation is very tens i'm the ukrainians. have said that
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they have inflicted or quite a big damage on the russians. again, because of poor tactics by the other side that exposed many of their soldiers, the ukrainians claim, that they have killed 400 soldiers in one attack alone. but there is considerable pressure from the russian side on the ukrainian positions as well. the russians have made a few strategic gains. they're not big and territory these gains, but they put them in a position now to attack saver at annette. that's the administrative capital of the ukranian territories are ukrainian control charities of the lou hands original. we're probably going to see a very tough battle for this city in the next few days that the military situation . but for weeks, thousands of civilians were stuck in the port city of mario, poland, a constant bombardment without enough food or water. what's the situation like now? so most of the city is now under russian control. that means also that these are
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areas are not contested. there's not no fighting in these areas, but are, but are they under russian control? the most of the biggest fighting spot, the, the biggest a hotspot is still the steel plan. the other steel plant where a few 100 ukrainian fighters, ukrainian soldiers are still, they are still defending this position. we are have seen pictures of what could possibly be phosphor bombs, that means a fire bombs that have been dropped on this on this steel plant. and we've ear about many wounded soldiers in there. so this is the most the biggest hotspot. however, for the areas where the civilians live, um we still hear that many people are trying to leave the city since the beginning people have been trying to escape the city, although it has never been safe to get out from there. and i have met
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a man who has brought hundreds out of the city. yup. and most horrible, vainly understood the da cities on the siege and nobody's driving there now. but my employees were there and i just promised them i would come yellow. my friends and i were pulling money to buy this bus. i'm on the road. i hope all will be fine and i will get there. you'll stop. i mean, could i? well was all sadie hour. and then when i drove pastor last ukrainian checkpoint in odette horrible, i encountered the war with the mines, the burned out tanks and all the horrors. did you see this was of like a thought of the images here will immediately i had to bibles here and to hear lovely and nonetheless the field was still there ill, but i drove yeah, yeah hm. yeah, middle, middle, well i had a business in maria poll. it was a club, but most of the space was in the base. it, it had concrete ceilings, so we transformed it into a bomb shelter. there was a grill,
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so we could cook food and water. we would joke that is a 5 star bomb shelter of bumblebee, russia. beds, wheels. mm. really all in law we did come on the fire. but everything that came at us missed something here, here and here and here. yes, with a car drove by that moment and in that car, grandma died. there's no rush to see. the children makes me cry. they are so scared screaming, i hope god will save them. it's horrific. we try our best with
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it. it's horrible. the memories are coming back ah, darren at the 1st opportunity we left, we took children pregnant women and mothers with children mentions did my local. my passengers are waking to the camera myself. oh, it was terrifying when we came across mines and tanks. but there were lots of mannequins, i mean the dead people. o as in us, another bus has joined us. we are becoming more and more it was there available again? oh my 1st trip i was the only one on my 3rd trip. i would already be standing in the queue at the check points for 40 minutes. there were so many people who wanted to help and get people out of there. i did with the volunteers have brought thousands out of the city in their own course. and many did not return some hit
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a mine. some came into cross fire while driving at night. these are regular ukrainians, regular people. mm. her impressive reporter much as you but me. carlo. he is not the only one. right. you have met or heard about others as well as far as we know, he was the 1st one to drive there when the fighting was severe. but as he drove many have joined him, we don't know how many people have been driving in and out of the city. also, whenever a convoy was coming in and, and bringing people out whenever, even he alone was driving in many people would join him in many people from the city would join him in their cars and he's just returned from another trip. and he said there were a few dozen cars who just drove behind him because they saw him driving out so they thought they would risk it. our correspondence, mathias bullying of their reporting from keith. thank you much. yes,
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sweden has announced that it will seek nato membership following felons decision to join the alliance. prime minister mcclellan anderson called it a historic change in the country security policy. it ends 2 centuries of swedish military neutrality, both sweden and finland want to bolster their security. following russia's invasion of ukraine, turkey as expressed concerns over them joining saying they must 1st provide security guarantees. moscow has called it a mistake and said russia would be forced to restore military balance, including by deploying nuclear weapons. and we can now cross straight to stockholm and speak to our correspondent terry schultz. there. terry sweetest prime minister there announcing the decision to abandon to 100 years of military non alignment and apply for nato membership. one more. can you tell us?
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well, that wasn't an easy decision for either swedish democratic party, the ruling government party. in fact, they only came to this conclusion yesterday and thus, because many members of the social democrats still don't want to abandon that tradition of, of military non alignment. even with the threats they now see coming from russia. so yes, what happened today is, is one more step along that timeline. it's now moving very quickly toward nato membership with their prime minister coming out and saying they've decided to take that step. there will be now a formal notification to nato headquarters in brussels. and then a session talks will open and a ratification process which could take up to a year. now most girls day came out say it quote, does not have a problem with sweden or finland applying for natal membership. but that expanding nato military infrastructure in either country may trigger a response, our sweden and finland reacting to us. i think that both of these nordic countries
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take any threats in stride, regardless of how they are rewarded, like we've seen today. because of course, the kremlin has threatened them with, with even, you know, moving nuclear weapons to, to finland's border. should they join and threaten serious consequences? so i'm not sure that they're going to parse this statement and feel particularly secure in it. but what both sweden and finland have said is that they do not see at this point, you have any uptick in, in a material threat to either of them. they have not seen russia move troops to finland border. for example, you haven't seen any, any, a noticeable upswing in, in incursions into finish or, or swedish airspace or, or boats patrolling the baltic sea. because those things happen at a low level all the time with finland and sweden. and so they're very resilient. they don't get alarmed that easily, but at the same time, this is the reason why they have sought from nato allies bilaterally reassurances that should something happen in this period between making the application and
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becoming full members and being covered by nato's article. 5 guarantees that there would be additional security assistance coming from allies and they have received those assurances. now, turkey is a large and important member of nato, and it has said that opposes finland some sweetener natal membership bids and could use its veto to block them. will it well, we're not exactly sure what turkey means because the turkish foreign minister said yesterday and were landed, that his country was not seeking to delay the membership of finland or sweden at the same time. it's not surprising been any opportunity to raise arguments that are made in every forums, such as a sweden and finland position on the p. k. k or other curtis groups would be brought up in this context, but i can assure you that nato secretary general young stilton berg and other countries the united states in particular, will be having serious talks with turkey about dropping any opposition. that could
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delay the the session of finland or sweden to nato. and the swedes as well have said today that they will open talks with, with turkey to try to resolve this and not let it be a road block. that of use a defense specialist told shoals from stockholm many thanks to her earlier and i spoke to to, to, to put on and she's the finish minister of european affairs. and she explained to me why finland has now decided to apply for nato membership. well, 20 both changed everything for us. it was to wake up call. not so for us being spotted to us all to assess the changing security environment about me has not been neutral in any sense. we have been firmly rooted in the western real world . we have been member in the european union since 1995. so you know that since it was quite natural for our public to react to be some war in
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a way that the support for nathan membership was huge already from the pers balls holes in early march. now russia, russia has already voice it's disapproval of sweden and finland joined the allies. what kind of reaction i expecting from moscow know? well, none of us is surprised that the claimant is not in favor of nato enlargement. it has expressed dismay for you already been on and sweden joining nato already for many years so that it's not being used. and they also said that they will have to do some kind of balancing misers if we should join nato, that we will not let russia intimidate us. russia cannot dictate our own national sense. and on the other hand, it can also be possible that restless simply states the obvious that the one has
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already been so close to nato. we have in hans opportunities, partnership with nato, so we are already so close as one can be without being actual member. so he can be possible that for us to simply adapt to this new reality. so you know, you don't expect any harsh reactions of from moscow. what about energy security in finland? well, we don't expect and need military absence against us. it is perfectly safe here. it is peaceful and quiet about quarter, so the intelligence tells that nothing like that is coming back. we're all kind of hybrid influencing is possible. we've already seen some interference in the electricity markets and also gas deliveries can be some kind of a problem. but for us, it's not going to be any major problem. we already are almost done when it comes to electricity and gas is only 6 percent in our energy mixed. so we haven't been. ready to energy tool box here in the lamp,
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and that proved to be very valuable in doing these turbulent times. now you're nato membership of finland, nato. a membership is not all done and dusted. turkey has misgivings and could theoretically spoil your bid. do you expect to veto from ankara? what are you doing to against it? well, we've had a lot of indications of support to us and to make those open door policy applies and we believe so. we have been told repeatedly that we are welcome and we certainly believe that, but we need to be how far it needs to be rectified needs and every member a member state. so the assistant, ged is something that is at the end, the members, including turkey. i don't expect any, any major problems with turkey. we understand that they can be some different uses. and of course,
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that's totally possible. but we share the same goal to fight against terrorism. that's a very important, a high priority. i believe that we can work together and that was to, to, to brian and the finish minister for european a fast talking to w. william russia's president vladimir putin has been welcoming leaders of the russian lead collective security treaty organization in moscow. bella luce, alexander lucas shanker, is one of the presidents joining the military alliance meeting at the kremlin. some, it is time to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the collective. tensions between russia and nato nations are currently growing over the natal membership bids from finland and sweden, members of the c. s t o include russia, romania, bella luce, a pro, to let's now bring in the w's russian affairs analyst con such an egg.
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he joins us from a villainous concert and what's the significance of this meeting happening today? well, not a lot of significance. as you rightly mentioned, it is an anniversary. some it may be moved. it's likely to to, to this day, slightly forward to kinda send the signal as they like to say moscow regarding sweden and finland membership. and they told him, fax it to you to other attempts by logging in to show that he also has strategic support. and russia has its own nature as many people most like to describe the connected security treat organization. although it isn't, they have nothing and nothing even close to that a bit more. what are the difference between the c s t o n nato? well, essentially it is an arrangement in which in russia,
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among its most weak and most authoritarian in most cases, again, neighbor in order to basically show that it has the kind of logical footprint. the only time when we see a few forces and they will rush and dominance into the organization, participated into any kind of operation was really this when. so during disturbances in congress down it is very much air ration dominated lines and nothing like they do in terms of men, power, technology, personnel, and political drugs. now constantly down the force of russian invasion, stalling, or at least slowing down. is it possible that protein is asking his friends for help? and even if he does, he's not going to get any kind of support for that. there is no taste and absolutely no desire to send any troops to ukraine in any of those countries
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different the maybe even alexander lucas franko whom you mentioned is basically trying to stay on the sidelines. although frankly speaking, bela was, is the staging point for pool rushes invasion in your brain. but you are supposed to look at this a basic and no way it will be extremely unpopular in many countries that actually try to distance a distance themselves from the russian war, russian sold on the washing of fast and less constant in aga, that thank you going to bed of russian orthodox church patriarch carroll has supported put his war in ukraine. from the start, he described opponents of the invasion as the forces of evil, and urged his followers to rally against what he called moscow's external and internal enemies is led to coals for western sanctions on carol. it also angered
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many ukrainians. they say carol has given his blessing to put in to kill them. so far russian attacks have damaged as many as 92 churches and places of worship in ukraine. there have also been increasing reports of attacks against the clergy, their rushes war. it seems also has a religious dimension. much of this religious conflict has been fueled by the russian orthodox church in moscow, and in particular by its head patriarch carol. ah, long before the start of the invasion, hero positioned himself and his church, a strong ideological allies of the kremlin. the hero has repeatedly cast russia as a defender of divine law, against the forces of evil, which he had done to 5 as emanating from western democracies. carol's proximity to
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the kremlin goes hand in hand with putin's commitment to the church. in 2012, the patriarch described pollutants political projects. as a miracle of gone. over the next few years, he became a staunch supporter of the kremlin agenda. in a sermon in march, this year, carol rebuked members of his own church, who opposed the war. we will never make peace, he said with those who violate the law of god. for carol, the invasion of ukraine is a religious crusade aimed at defending divine law. those who oppose it are therefore enemies of god. the kremlin and its forces have effectively been granted a religious stamp of approval for their actions. many of the victims of the violence unleashed by the kremlin and blessed by the church and moscow are carol's own faithful. ukraine has almost 12000 russian orthodox parishes
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. many of which now stand in the way of russian munitions now a full moon provided spectacular views over the weekend as to astronomical events took place. at the same time, star gazes across europe, whitman witnessed a full lunar eclipse as the earth passed directly between the sun and the moon, turning it a shade of dark red event. also coincided with the so called super mood, which is when the moon appears larger. as it passes close to earth, it was she dw news. as a reminder of the top story we are following for you. russia says it has a great deal to evacuate. ukrainian soldiers from the other style still planned. in mario poll, hundreds remain tracked down to the plant with dwindling supplies. elsewhere in the
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country, ukraine says its troops have reached the russian border of the pushing moscow's forces away from the north. eastern city of harkey, sweden's prime minister, has announced her country will apply for membership in nato macklin anderson called it a historic change in the country's security policy. it ends 2 centuries, swedish military neutrality, and reminded, don't forget, you can always get the w news on the gold. just download our app from google play all from the app store. they'll give you access to all the latest views from around the world, as well as push notifications for any breaking news. and if you happen to be part of a news story, you can also use the d w app to send us your photos and your videos of what's happening around that's it from me and the new scene from albany, fizzle. and we'll have an update for you at the top of the hour,
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