[000:00:00;00] hey, this is the double the news life from the objects to nature, membership of finland and sweden, turkish president, roger, ty, bird, one says he won't support either country joining the military alliance, accusing both of harboring terrorists. also on the program, russia agrees a deal to revaluate, hundreds of ukrainian soldiers hold up beneath a massive steel planted motto. as you cried, mount a counter attacking khaki, pushing russian troops away from the city and back to the russian border. and we

meet the business own maddie awful, he's risking his life to bring as many people as he can to say. ah, i'm so gale. welcome to the program. would begin with breaking news from turkey. president graduate typo on says he's country will not approve request from finland and sweden to join nato. and that that delegation should not come to anchorage to try and change his mind. sweden had previously announced that he would seek membership of the western military alliance following finland's decision and ending 2 centuries of swedish neutrality. both countries want to both, so there secures the following rushes, invasion of ukraine or tele sholtes is that the w nato corresponded and joins us for from the swedish capital. welcome, terry,

and tell us more about the turkish presidents objections. you know, this came somewhat, as a surprise fell because just over the weekend, the turkish foreign minister assured allies that he did not want to delay the membership of sweden and finland. and so it seems like things would be able to be worked out. and then president there to want held a press conference today and said he absolutely won't allow the to nordic countries into the alliance. he says that they have failed to expedite some 33 people that he has requested. and that this amounts to harboring terrorists. so while sweden and finland said that they were ready to open talks with air to one on his complaints. he has told them not to come. and so it will be up to other allies to negotiate with on gra, and to make sure that this does not hold up what all of the other ally see as a very welcome addition to the alliance. so do these turkish objections kill the finish and swedish bears. well, feats filaments,

we haven't even submitted their bids yet. so it's, it's way too early to say that. and i would guess that this is just, are the ones opening gambit. he sees a way to exploit what has probably been a grudge for many years, a way to elevate his, his concerns and, and his argument against the european union. it's not only finland and sweden that any members of the p k k which that you have listed as a terrorist organization should be extradited upon his request. but you know air to one has a lot of aspects from other allies of predominantly the u. s. and some fighter jet deals that are sort of hung up on air to one's a purchase of a russian missile defense system. so there are a lot of negotiations to be had, as i say, this is everyone's opening gambit. he sees a way to use the situation to his advantage, but i would guess in the end that he will be convinced not to carry through with this threat factor without terry attorney schultz install. well this by the turkish intervention,

russian president vladimir putin has worn that sweden all finland. joining data would aggravate tensions between the kremlin and the west. let's get more on this for me. how about enough sky director of the german marshall funds? warsaw office. a welcome to d w. so russia, morning of consequences if nato expands, but you've been quoting, is quoted to saying that bringing sweden and finland into nato makes military confrontation with russia. less likely have so absolutely. well, sweden and finland join you think that makes the alliance stronger? it makes the defense of the baltic states as don't, you know, locked in with when you know easier. and therefore, the stronger we are, the more the parents we can provide, the less likely to conflict with russia is. and in fact, just about half an hour ago president putting it was reported in the financial times. present putting said that he does not see

a problem in sweden and finland joining a doll. he put a condition which of course will not be something that lines will take on the face value or the condition was that nature will not. station troops are built military bases in these 2 countries, but it's back, he's basically walking back that tough language of few months ago already. all right, so your assessment, that's a very rational assessment. and lots of this conflict has been far from rational. but your, your, your, your content that i stronger night. so despite this being one of mr. pollutants that bug bass, you think that will keep them in a box? well, put in is we have to really remember this because that put in, it's not all powerful. he is, he's forces, all the available forces are right now kind in ukraine. he is

a russia is breaking up. it's teeth on the toughness of ukrainian defenses. and without major conscription and military did mobilization, russia is not just able to threaten anyone else. so even if he was tough in his rhetoric and the rhetoric is, is getting softer, putting does not have a way to threaten finland and sweden and actually any other parts of the alliance. so really are again in a very good place to go forward with this larger quick word about poland, which of course neighbors, ukraine, and has received thousands of refugees. house. it's increased importance in terms of security play out while you are politically right. the importance of poland has his increase because we are in poland, are the main land bridge to, to ukraine. all the military aides,

all the humanitarian aid goes through poland and, and many of the refugees who are flawed, who are fleeing ukraine are coming to poland over 3000000 as we, as we count. so it's really a key place when it comes to support to ukraine, but also when it comes to the fans of the baltic states. thank you so much for joining us. mccalla bronowski, director of the german marshall funds, also office was a pleasure. russia's defense ministry says it has reached an agreement to evacuate wounded ukrainian soldiers from the besieged as of south steel planted mario pole. and in the south east of the country. the ministry in moscow said a cease fire was in effect and the humanitarian corridor would be established to allow the injured fighters to leave the still works. but for treatment in a town held by pro moscow, separatists and countries, ne ukrainian forces have mounted

a counter attack. pushing russian troops away from the 2nd largest city khaki as also heavy fighting in the eastern region of hans where residents still reluctant to leave ukrainian tangs and heavy artillery on their way to the lou hands region. russia has increasingly turned its attention to east and ukraine, but the ukrainians are making preparations. one of the cities, the artillery is going to as litzy, chancellor, do not every one there is ready to leave despite the russian threat with him, your source is doing well. tell me seriously, what are you doing here with the children? do you understand that this is a war zone, warriors, oklahoma, by word? yes. or it's ways to just right now we have to avoid shelling and make our way through a very difficult situation in order to reach the people we. but people just sit here and think everything will be fine tomorrow. unfortunately, everything is not fine. book on your garage door, angelina aback. whomever has been living in a bunker for over

a month with her 2 children. she doesn't believe the police can bring them to safety, run down, but almost from the school graham. i know so many people who were evacuated and then simply dropped off on the street. i do not think leaving as an option or more rules written the road and only 20 kilometers away lies the town of obese. new russians de tv claims that it's under russian control, but the ukrainian military says it still has reason to celebrate. it says its troops have pushed russia from the north, eastern city of ha, keith and. and then as far as the border with russia, with ne, to has said that ukraine can win this war, rushes war in ukraine isn't going us. will school have planned? they failed to take here? they're pulling back from around cartoon there, major offensive. and almost as sol,

russia is not achieving, it's a teaching objectives. and ukraine has received another moral boast from the countries when in the eurovision song contest. even in the most dire conditions like here in a bunker below the as of stell steelworks and mary a pole. some soldiers perform the winning song, e z spear, i rang emo oh, to show us get most d w correspondent, a hut if a shaw and the cranium capital. welcome a funny, we'll talk about russian forces in a moment of 1st. so could you tell us and what you know about this deal to evacuate at wounded soldiers of from of a manual pull steel plant. what that offer definitely raised some eyebrows among ordinary ukrainians here because they cannot imagine regardless whether these are as of regimen through just a wounded or not that they really want to hand themselves basically over to the

aggressor to russia. it's been pounding the as of steel plant for weeks now. however, i've been speaking to a sista of one of the see soldiers just yesterday. and she said that people really inside that steel plant, i'm such di, our condition that may be, this could be a way to evacuate. people evacuate people, but really the last resort. in fact, lot of people are hoping to relatives that is a 3rd country, for example, turkey and turkey made it offer as well to extract soldiers bring them to, to key as long as this will continues. also, if you zoom in on that offer, russia basically says we will make sure that there's a few minutes here in corridor. but the soldiers, the wounded soldiers and medics will be evacuated to russian control territory, about 40 kilometers for maria, pull. for now, what we know is from a social media post, basically that a senior commander of the as of regiment is saying that a decision is currently being made about saving lives. now, does that, does it mean that the siege is over?

there is no word about surrendering, and i really think that the next hour are going to be crucial in many ways, whether those wounded soldiers say they are ready to give it a try to say so, even though their risk, their lives are with that as well. not knowing what russian a forces i going to do with them, or are they going to stay inside a steel plan. after all, these people have been described as heroes, trying to defend what's left of ukrainian controlled mario pool. and that's not much. and how would you say the russian offensive is proceeding, especially with his opponent, re focusing on don bass. ever since, basically they are sold he on key a for i am right now. the key free jan on chair and if and the know them part of ukraine didn't work out to really re focus on the bus region, which letting me put in the president in russia describe just recently wants to get as mother land clearly implying they want to fight for the don't bus region. now as the momentum clearly shifts towards ukraine, because after all,

during the past couple of days, they've made some serious advancements in the hockey region as well, which is also strategically quite important for russia neighboring did on bus region. it seems like the tide seems to be tuning a full of the ukrainian forces after all, they were seen as quite inferior when this war has begun through 3 months ago. so all the mobilization there from russian forces is right now in the don't much region and this is unfortunately with. 2 civilians are really bearing the brunt of heavy shelling. we're talking about civilian infrastructure, about schools, about hospitals being attacked. and this is we're the entire who has been shifting right now apart from our reports, apart from her. so in odessa, the southern parts of ukraine. however, all around, certainly nobody expected, in fact, that the russian invasion is basically going to direct you rail as we see right now happening. but does it mean the end of the war soon? in fact, this is the only thing that both russia and ukraine can agree on at this point,

that nobody knows how long this war is going to continue. i thank you for that date of the correspondent of funding to show in chief or thousands of civilians have been stuck in the port of mario pole for weeks without enough water or food and under constant bombardment from russian forces official efforts to evacuate them. kept running into obstacles as a result, only ukrainians started to drive to the city to try and rescue people who were trapped. we've spoken to one of the volunteers who risked his life to save us, others yelp and multiple waterfall present. i understood that the city is on the siege and nobody is driving there now. but my employees were there and i just promised them i would come my friends and i were pulling money to buy this bus. i'm on the road. i hope all will be fine and i will get there. you know, it slipped my mind cuz i was always also. yeah. and then when i drove past the last

ukrainian checkpoint in odette horrible, i encountered the war with the mines, the burned out tanks and all the horrors. did you see this order that i thought of the video a i had to bibles here and to hear none the less the field was still there. you but i drove yeah. yeah. i know, but i had a business in murray. paul was a club, but most of the space was in the base. it. it had concrete ceilings, so we transformed it into a bomb shelter. there was a grill, so we could cook food and water. we would joke that this is a 5 star bomb shelter. bumblebee ownership does awesome. really all we use it to come on the fire. but everything that came at us missed something here and here and here. yes,

with a car drove by that moment and in that car, grandma died. there's no rush to see. the children makes me cry. they're so scared, screaming, i hope god will save them. it's horrific. we try our best with it's horrible. the memories are coming back during at the 1st opportunity we left, we took children pregnant women and mothers with children mentions, did my local. my passengers are waiting to the camera myself. oh and it was terrifying what we came across

mines and tanks. there were lots of americans. i mean the dead people o as in us, another bus has joined us. we are becoming more and more. it was bureau with global again. oh, my 1st trip i was the only one on my 3rd trip. i would already be standing in the queue at the check points for 40 minutes. there were so many people who wanted to help and get people out of there. i did with the volunteers have brought thousands out of the city in their own course. and many did not return some hit to mine. some came into crossfire while driving at night. these are regular ukrainians, regular people mm. or small island in the black sea has become a key battle ground in this war. snake island is just over half a kilometer long and 200 kilometers south of the cranium. port matessa. russia seized it at the start of its invasion. it scene is vital to moscow's efforts to

control the western black. c crane, of course, wanted back and has attacked russia's military equipment that including it ships it may look like just a tiny lump of rock in the middle of the black sea. but snake island has enormous strategic importance for both russia and ukraine. so significant that it's become a key battle ground in this wall. ukraine has even produced a stamp in its honor. on the, on it an illustration of a ukrainian border guard, standing on the island and making a rude gesture. it was inspired by roman free boff who received a metal for refusing to surrender the i'll to the crew of

a russian warship at the start of the war. his cuss words to the russians have now become a popular ukrainian slogan. russia though, did take snake island, an outpost that used to be under soviet control. if the kremlin could occupy it permanently, it would control even more of the black sea. that would help it continue to block the exports of ukrainian goods, such as grain from key port cities like odessa. ukraine has been doing all it can to take snake island back successfully targeting russian military equipment on the island and beyond. the mosque ever seen here in its prime was russia's black sea flagship, but it was destroyed by ukrainian forces in april. moscow is fighting

back. british intelligence believes russia is trying to reinforce its garrison on snake island, including stretching up long range defense systems. military experts warned that could be a threat not only to ukraine, but also to its neighbors and nato. and so the battle for this strategic outpost goes on with ny decide, prepared to back down and take a closer look. with dimitry, al petrovich shows a security expert, they silverado policy accelerator that said you political think tank in washington, d. c. welcome to d, w. and what's your assessment that how important is it to control this tiny island? while symbolically, of course, is very important, given the episode there was just described early in the war and the dialing and

resistance from the ukrainians and the found it. but here's the issue that the russians face. now, this island is essentially indefensible. now, given that the war ships that they would provide the defense capabilities for the island, like my class can be sunk by the canyons with their napkins as they capable demonstrated last month. so they have a real issue now facing targeting from to be to drones, from starkey of personnel on that island. the equipment on that island, just a few weeks ago, the green sway their defense system on it. so now it's really questionable why they want to keep it so badly given that they're going to continue suffering severe casualties on it. okay, so russia having problems defending it, but russia says ukraine's taking heavy losses as he tries to recapture it. and what do you think is ukraine, right, to keep focusing on this of this, this little outpost? again, symbolically. it's very important. but for the grants also, this is not a strategic i want. and one that they can probably defend,

even if they are reoccupied. because the russians can, of course, conduct their strikes against that and take out any personnel or an air defense systems that are on the silent. and here's the problem. it really won't stop the blockade. the blockade is largely be enforced with submarines with surface ships, with our air strikes and artillery and missiles and crimea. and only ne collins is really not going to change the picture much for the finance. right. so you seem to be saying that that or be symbolically important. it really doesn't make that much difference. that's right, and primarily because of a size is less than point 2 kilometers in size. ah. and it's just too small to put significant forces on it. but later, and significant air defenses that can be taken out with you a v like the grains of i've done in the past because i've looked at reports as the reports of people thinking well ok, but it does have

a significant potential to wreak havoc on other european countries it's pretty far and look, the russians don't need snake island so we can come to europe and countries if they want to do so. they controlled pretty much the block. see with the black, the fleet, even with a lot of my squad. they still haven't. i'm a frigate that are highly capable. one range missiles on those frigates. they have submarines, they have force, long distance aviation that's lucky to crimea. so snake island really doesn't change the picture much for them. i was very interesting. thank you so much for sharing your expertise with us. dmitri out petrovich, secure to expose the silverado policy accelerator. thank you. quick look at some stories. are some other stories making headlines? former labor minister elizabeth born will be a francis, a 2nd female prime minister appointed to replace the resigning a joke. cast x be a government reshuffle aims to invigorate president macro centrist party added

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