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i'll in ukraine for war crimes. he's admitted shooting and killing a 62 year old civilian to stop him from reporting the presence of russian troops in his village. but just think about that for a moment. 21 years old. what turns a 21 year old soldier into a war criminal? and where's the line in war time? i'm fil gail in berlin and this is the day. ah! do you understand what you're accused of yet? do you feel guilty yet? fully? yes. not refusing to give evidence in court. now, it's not refusing. now also on the day europe powers
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up it's renewable energy programs and new initiative promises to win the you off russian energy. today we're taking our ambition yet to another level, to make sure that we become independent of russian fossil fuels as quickly as possible. ah, welcome to the day we begin in the ukrainian capital key when a russian soldier has admitted to killing a civilian in ne, in ukraine. in the 1st days of the russian invasion during the trial and in the capital, the 21 year old has pleaded guilty to charges, including premeditated murder and committing a war crime. it's the 1st war crimes trial to be held there and looks likely to be the 1st of many. so stood in a glass box in a packed courtroom in chief. a russian soldiers fate hangs in the balance. he's been accused of a war crime. the case centers on the shooting of an anom civilian in the semi
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region in the 1st week of russia's invasion of ukraine. worth your while while we're a translator. the judge asks the russian sergeant, if he plead guilty, she was moved the woman who up from inside the glass box comes the answer. yes, i do know that if you, if the court convicts him the 21 year old russian could spend the rest of his life in prison. the lawyer for the accused soldier plans to challenge the war crimes charge. despite his clients guilty, plea or boucher will. we will approve the fact that he pleaded guilty doesn't necessarily mean guilty to the exact charges, detailed by the prosecutor's official group. i think it omitted that those events happened. but as for the classification, the court will decide with, i personally don't see criminal substance in his actions. no rosario, with years of,
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from you watching the trial is katerina shelley up over the widow of the killed 62 year old civilian alexander shelly, a puff. as a young man, her husband used to work with russians during the soviet era for katerina. any forgiveness is a long way off. can you forgive him? oh, when you know they brought too much grief to us is about her too many children have been killed. there has been too much brutality or you there is a bubble on those hippa, ukraine accuses the russian army of committing widespread war crimes. it's a charge that moscow denies, but she cranes, prosecutor general, irena vin addict over scene here with jan less is preparing cases against at least $41.00 russian soldiers. back at the court in keith.
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the country's long fight for justice is just beginning. well let's look at some of the matters arising from this trial with major john spencer. he's chair of urban warfare. stories with the madison policy for him is also author of connected soldiers, life leadership, and social connections in modern war, joins us from colorado springs in the united states. welcome to d. w. so we have a 21 year old russian sergeant who's admitted shooting an unarmed 62 year old man on a bike. this was to stop him reporting the presence of, of russian soldiers. we know that war is a terrible business that necessarily involves killing people. so someone who's seen active service for troops on the ground, how a soldiers trained to draw the line between what's necessary and one what's allowed yet really starts on day one. when we accept people and that a military,
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we immediately start him with imposing what we call ethics, a standard of the profession. that includes the law of armed conflict. the law war which distinguishes trina, combat and non combat and an enemy in a civilian. we start that from day one, we also have very strong called group norms. so this is what a professional military does, doesn't matter if the person's been there for one day or for 10 years. the grouping itself is self regulated is part of being a profession, is that you adhere to an ethical code to the law of war, and then you self regulate. so the fact that you is your, any soldier, if they embed a so some sellers do do bad things. they're not immediately corrected by the group . then establish the new standard in the base to the descend into a mad or killing whatever you want. so again, big because none of us have had to be there what we were talking in the abstract. so something bad happens, you would expect in
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a well regulated army for the people around and for commanding officers to, to look at what's just happened and, and, and, and take some sort of action that immediately yet immediately, or it's like a poison to the, to the just war to the just actions of your unit. it even means something morally, if you, if you allow that to go on and what the injury caused to your other soldiers. so as a commander in war, you would immediately stop that soldier, take his weapon and then he would seek you would seek justice as in an investigation. a trial in the military, that's part of the glue is the military justice system to identify that and then show all the other soldiers that it's not acceptable. ok, so that, that, that's in a well regulated the army, but from your own experience, and from what you know of this war and the way that russia treats and trains it's, it's conscript on me. are you able to paint as a picture of
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a sort of precious eye on young conscripts in a conflict like this? yeah, yeah, i think i could, i mean, con ship isn't a bad thing. mandatory service is used by other military and it doesn't descend into violent war crimes, genocide, things like that. in the situation of a young person in combat, he looks to the leaders around him or the people that have been there longer, right. the senior soldiers in the russian system they had, they don't have a senior listed core, they have officers and have warrant officers, but they absolutely have been around for a long time. that soldier becomes accountable to his group and that's how you regulate it. but this is not always the western military there. they have no ethical code. the massacres that we have seen are either condoned or ordered. so this is and i think this is an important moment even for the ukrainians to show the world that they are a professional government, a professional force where there are rights and that social wasn't,
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it is vengeance is justice. a rush of course is considering its own trials of ukrainian as soldiers and his russian, a lawmaker and chair of the countries parliament's committee on international affairs at lee, and had slootsky knocker. yes, in them a big way. exchange, a sufficiently large number of prisoners of war were from the ukrainian side for these non humans in human form killers and show the whole world that they are worthy only of capital punishment. thus, they do not deserve to live after those monstrous crimes committed against humanity, the actual and which are being committed continuously against our prisoners of war league of our reserves. are you bare with a brother, her brother? i wonder john, a spencer? do you see any equivalence of morals or legally, of between the trial starting in cave and those being called for in moscow?
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no, i don't mean actually makes me sick. physically sick, listening to that person. i thought he was talking about the russian soldiers actions in places like boucher where you would as a nation, call your soldiers in for justice against your soldiers. there's no, there's no document investigation showing that the mary hope will defenders target civilians. bond theaters with children written on the outside of it just makes me sick. it's a complete, i really thumb at the nose at the entire world that this war is not, it just work for them. he should be calling for his own russian soldiers to be, to be investigated and try for the internationally documented war crimes that are happening every day. there's no evidence of the defenders of mary of doing work, right. so we have a, you claim to prosecutor general, who says her office is preparing war crimes cases against $41.00 russian soldiers for offences including bombing, civil infrastructure, killing civilians, right,
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and looting. so we can perhaps understand in this broadest terms why in an invading force might find it useful to destroy buildings, even civilian ones. i suppose it's a personal outrageous that so many of us find so difficult to contemplate. do you have any insights to share as someone who's been in conflict about what terms? some men in war into rapists and murderers? no, actually, i don't. that's, that's a special kind of evil. not that i've seen bad soldiers in those soldiers are identified and then rapidly secluded not given the autonomy to operate weapons and fight in war. so i can't get in a mindset of a rapist or what we've seen in russian soldiers doing at mass, not just individuals. other. the investigations will be extreme jurisprudence as in investigations videos, evidence collecting, but to get you in a mind,
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there's no excuse just so you clear for what has been done by russian soldiers to civilians tying their hands behind their back and shooting them in the back of the head, right, i, i agree with you that in war, civilian buildings and things like that will be destroyed, such as like an enemy is used as a headquarters. but if you're, if you follow the laws, why can't like you do everything, you can to ensure the minimis mount of collateral damage possible, right to certain people and to the infrastructure. that's not what's happened in russia, across the entire country of ukraine, that they're going through with extreme diligence and investigating every one good token that's very interesting. thank you so much for joining us, john spencer, from the madison policy for if you was holders in ukraine, 2nd largest city hockey have recently repelled
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a russian attempt to take the city. the soldiers who fought to protect it are being held as heroes, but so to the volunteers who headed to the front line without arms or training to rescue civilians trap to me in battle city. during the heaviest fighting. the w reporter, abbey, and se has been to visit one volunteer in the hospital in the faith, who told him his story. waking up from a nightmare after 2 months of operations, said he, yvonne choke is recovering from his wounds. after the war broke out, he volunteered to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of har. keith, in his own car, he estimates he took about 70 people to safety. oh, not counting their pets. so it was him. despite his perennial smile, he was in a constant state of fear one night his fears came true. what says
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shows him a bunch of text everything we see on the scene talk or in the movies, and it's not like that on your life. well, actually it's scary and you don't know what to do with it. he picked up several medical workers around 8 p. m to drive them out of the city. not long after they heard gunfire. little at the level 4 letters on the brow, when i turned left auto thumbs from the driver's side was exposed to a moment across the key. and on the dance, when i felt the 1st bullet hit my leg, only i will up on this will be 2nd shot hor, of my finger had that all along. but i really saw that moment in a while, but i couldn't believe it was real. has lots of gifts and the years that it was like a nightmare thorns. and on the more that the corey, i love, i felt like a bullet in my back. i'll spring like it felt i was starting to florida. yeah. you each of our have so push on, i said why i think of shots in the back of the spirit. and the thing we saved my life is that i was ferrying people from a clinic sankey and victoria clinical. and victoria, close to the holy my lung victoria menu, because if not like a ducal,
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i'd have taken a few more brackets when it, sir, smiling with her collapse for them. a thoughtful amount would have been wind with 5 bullet wounds in his body said he drove another half a kilometer to the nearest ukrainian checkpoint. soldiers rushed him to the hospital. the rich a summer ticklish of cielo dickies, until it's amazing that no one else in the car was injured short. little john, not at all. a long one man was grave by a bullet points tore his jeans, but saw that was it for animals that are going. if not, even the cats were hugs which electronic be 30 bullets hit. the car is after you should 5 take me another 25 totally miss. no one could believe it nicely scored. even the soldier said, really what of which you survived? you tony? me for viola, sure that the killable before the war said he was an opera singer in italy. he could have stayed there, but something called him home. what still younger, if not me, then who read of so that's what the volunteers say if he's got the thought, well,
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if not me them home, just little bit privacy on some politicians trying to change things said as well as i mean, these are the people who can not be replaced with the people doing vital work. his doctors have told them he can't sing for now. within a year they expect him to make a full recovery. ah, other european union says it wants to stop using russian fosten fossil fuels by 2027 am. it's just unveiled at 210000000 euro plan to do exactly that. the hope is not only to deprive the kremlin of tens of billions in revenue, but also to strengthen the use climate policies. european commission to present us or the font the line or presented the initiative in brussels. but today we're taking our ambition yet to another level, to make sure that we become independent of russian fossil fuels as quickly as possible. this whole approach is re power ego. so we power,
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you will help us to save more energy to accelerate the phasing out of fossil fuel. and most importantly, to kick start investments on a new scale. so i will say this will be this speed charging of our european green via ok to the plan ah, energy savings and renewables. so let's take a closer look at what's arguably the most important source of renewable energy, wind power, but is expansion a here in europe on and off shore has been slow. while asia has seen its wind energy capacity, almost triple since 2020 wind farm capacity in the european union is increased by just 4 percent. but that's the overall european picture break that down to individual states. and we can see that the pace of offshore expansion varies widely . aside from denmark, no e u member with access to the c, a completed
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a wind farm last year. but that set to change a germany belgium, the netherlands and denmark of all just announced plans to expand offshore wind capacity in the north sea massively to create a green power plant for europe. we want to increase our total offshore wind capacity for fall by 203010 fold by 2050. and we need that for 2 reasons. one is to tackle climate change, or we are working heart with in europe to make our energy supply sustainable. but secondly, because of the russian invasion in ukraine. first of all, it's driving down energy prices and things like these. i think it is very important to show the potential that we have to drive the price is now 2nd element there reduces c o 2 emissions. this is a goal that we have said as european as european union than the not the north sea is the place where we can have large scale generation of electricity in offshore
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wind parks, in the large capacities that we need. and we can do that in a way which is cost effective today. steve, the checklist, or germany's economy and climate minister robert hardback was also at that meeting . as being with the w correspondent, julius, how daily he underscore the importance of this joint initiative. this is really the exception of thing today that we're not planning european grid alone and not turning a hydrogen back from interest on such up turning power plants of solving talks together. so this is, this is the new momentum really need in this situation. there have been reports that negotiations with katara regarding ellen gee, terminals have hit some problems because of the length of contracts and things like that. do you have any comments regarding those negotiation? not?
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i have a comment, but i can't go too deep into the negotiations because the companies are really doing the negotiations. but it's, it's obvious that we need natural gas if you want to get rid of russian national, natural gas. this is the situation, but we won't be hijacked. and if someone is using the situation to ask, asking for too high prices are 2 long term contracts. then we were fined upon us. we really would like to cooperate with a lot of countries, but not under the condition that the but they, but they dictate the conditions. so it's a market and we will find other suppliers if the categories are asking for too high prices. thank you very much. let's get more, i'll miss a european plan from christian johnson who's ceo of green power denmark in
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copenhagen. welcome to d w. if the you have target of ditching russian fossil fuels within 5 years, how much of that gap do expect will be filled by wind energy? i think that must be the majority of the gap because when it is you is the only source that is large enough and cost effective enough to, to scale into what is needed right now. and the plan today presented about the north sea and the offshore when there is a huge step forward to get european independence from russian gas. so i like to commend the prime ministers of germany, belgium netherlands, and didn't all for taking this is, did we need this? and we need even more to get independent from russia. it's extraordinary though, isn't it? we have known for decades, we have old on every school child will tell us that we have to win ourselves off of fossil fuels. we have to make this transition to renewables. why is it taken
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a war in ukraine for the a you to take this seriously? well, sometimes when you need to act on problems, they need to be right in your face and the kids. if problems are further down the road, you can see like perhaps we should deal with all the problems. but now the problem is really concrete and right here with us today, we had a problem with the brush and gas and oil. and we had the problem with the climate. and those 2 problems are coming to get the solution with electric from europe, and to do that with renewable green to see primarily from so when is the thing the piece? these changes always sound lovely in the abstract, but they end up costing us the consumer right at the start. we know that creating the infrastructure for offshore wind farms is expensive, especially deeper waters. we're in the middle of a cost of living crisis. so how much is this going to cost us?
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how much will consumers end up having to pay more for energy to repay those capital investment costs? actually, my prediction is that consumers will pay less than we do right now with the prices of energy from natural gas and from all the fossil fuels. if you see the trend of the years, the price for renewable energy has dropped and dropped and drops. if you go back to the 1st would fall off show that they're not produced in $1001.00. we had to pay a loss subsidies from the state in order to create that went far. and if you take the latest that we had produced and then model plan and then mark it is actually the operators who pays the state for the right to use the land in the north sea. so going from a state subsidy to a state payment is the trend right now, we need to go to think very carefully where you need the scale. how much can the invest is paying for this?
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and do we want to continue to have the race to the bottom with the workforce and the working conditions that we see iraq rolls, or will we have your pins then of sustainability? not only in the energy or also the production of windows, if it's so lovely, i'm so increasingly cheap and inexpensive. one wonders why we haven't done this before. well, we should have done it before, but both dishes should have taken action before, but instead of pointing fingers of what should have been done, i just like to be happy and pleased about what has been said and promised today that now we will strengthen the time for planning, we will increase the span of openness to where you can invest as an investor. and right now there are private in this is our pension funds, who want to invest without a subsidy in renewable energy. and so that a market price. so this is a new sensation, this is
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a new way. why hadn't been you without states, a quick word on the environmental impact. i will the explosion of all this underwater noise from all these newly created wind farms effect marine life. it would be ironic if i knew green energy sources ended up being environmentally catastrophic. well, 1st of all, that will be areas in the north sea and other places that should never have wind farms. they are protected areas that should continue to be totally protected from fishery and from offshore wind. but what we can see right now is some of the results coming back is actually telling us that it could be good for biodiversity. if you have wind farms on the fundament and the sandy areas, they can create that best environment for plants and fish and other animals in the sea. so i will not say for certain that this is bad to buy a t. it could turn out to be good if we're planning green energy,
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and good environment for the fish at the same time. thank you so much for joining us for christian johnson from the green part demo. ah, the u. s. a soccer federation has reached an agreement to which will see its men's and women's tame and with their teams receive equal pay. the deal which run until the end of 2026 also creates a mechanism for sharing prize money from tournaments like the world cup american women have consistently out perform their male counterparts at major tournaments will now have identical performance based bonuses for all games and competitions. on the day's almost done the competition as ever continues online. i've asked d. w. use on twitter or you can follow me to fill gail, have a good day with
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into the conflict zone with tim sebastian as the kremlin began its war against you, crated force, but closure brushes. last independent media outlets to secure absolute control at the public merits. here about the invasion, but did it work? i guess this week is your catherine project godrays news editorial presenter and one of the last channels to be shut down. conflict next on d. w with queer in about it takes
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a lot of courage. they frequently encountered by lights and discrimination, but more and more queer people want visibility and to lead their own lives. a cultural shift is underway in the region. the fight for equality has to be done in 45 minutes on d w. o she ah listen carefully. don't know how with to the a girl, he'll the magic discover
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the world around you. subscribe to d w documentary on youtube. as the kremlin began its war against ukraine, it forced but closure of russia laughed. independent media outlets. the aim, of course, to secure absolute control of the public narrative about the invasion and the cost of it. but did it work? and what about the people defying that control? my guess this week is the katerina katya cards a user return presenter on one of the last channels to be shut down, doors, tv, known internationally as t v range. she fled russia and the 1st week of march.
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