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more on our web site, d. w dot com. ah, a 21 year old russian soldiers on trial in ukraine for war crimes. he's admitted shooting and killing a 62 year old civilian to stop him from reporting the presence of russian troops in his village. but just think about that for a moment. 21 years old. what turns a 21 year old soldier into a war criminal? and where's the line in war time? i'm fil gail in berlin and this is the day. ah, do you understand what you're accused of yet? do you keep guilty yet fully?
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yes. not refusing to give evidence in court. now. it's not refusing. now also on the day europe powers up it's renewable energy programs and new initiative promises to win the you off. russian energy. today we're taking our ambition yet to another level, to make sure that we become independent of russian fossil fuels as quickly as possible. ah, welcome to the day we begin in the ukrainian capital key, where a russian soldier has admitted to killing a civilian in ne and ukraine. in the 1st days of the russian invasion during the trial and in the capital, the 21 year old has pleaded guilty to charges, including premeditated murder and committing a war crime. it's the 1st war crimes trial to be held there and looks likely to be the 1st of many. so stood in a glass box in
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a packed courtroom in chief. a russian soldiers fate hangs in the balance. he's been accused of a war crime. the case sent his on the shooting of an unarmed civilian in the semi region in the 1st week of russia's invasion of ukraine. worth your while while we were a translator. the judge asks the russian sergeant, if he pleads guilty, she was moved. the woman who up from inside the glass box comes the answer. yes, i do know that if you, if the court convicts him the 21 year old russian could spend the rest of his life in prison. the lawyer for the accused soldier plans to challenge the war crimes charge despite his clients guilty, plea or boucher. when will we will approve the fact that he pleaded guilty doesn't necessarily mean guilty to the exact charges, detailed by the prosecutors official,
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cuz i think it omitted that those events happened. but as for the classification, the court will decide with drug i personally don't see criminal substance in his actions. that was over year from the you watching the trial is catarina shelly, a popo, the widow of the killed 62 year old civilian, alexander shelly, a puff. as a young man, her husband used to work with russians during the soviet era. for katerina. any forgiveness is a long way off. can you forgive him? oh, when you know they brought too much grief to us is about too many children have been killed. there has been too much brutality or you there is a bubble of those hippa, ukraine accuses the russian army of committing widespread war crimes. it's
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a charge that moscow denies, but she cranes, prosecutor general, irena vin addict over scene here with journalists is preparing cases against at least $41.00 russian soldiers back at the court in keith. the countries long fight for justice is just beginning. well let's look at some of the matters arising from this trial with major john spencer. he's chair of urban warfare. stories with the madison policy for him is also author of connected soldiers, life leadership, and social connections in modern war, joins us from colorado springs in the united states. welcome to the w. so we have a 21 year old russian sergeant who's admitted shooting an unarmed 62 year old man on a bike. this was to stop him reporting the presence of, of russian soldiers. we know that war is a terrible business that necessarily involves killing people. so someone who's seen
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active service for troops on the ground, how a soldiers trained to draw the line between what's necessary and what, what's allowed yet really starts on day one. when we accept people and that a military, we immediately start him with imposing what we call ethics, a standard of the profession. that includes the law of armed conflict. the law war which distinguishes trina, combat and non combat and an enemy in a civilian. we start that from day one, we also have very strong called group norms. so this is what a professional military does, doesn't matter if the person's been there for one day or for 10 years. the group in itself is self regulated, is part of being a profession, is that you adhere to an ethical code to the law of war and then you self regulate . so the fact that he was your, any soldier if they embody so some sellers do do bad things. they're not
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immediately corrected by the group. then establish the new standard and you basically descend into a mad or killing whatever you want. so again, big because none of us have actually been there what we're talking in the abstract . so something bad happens, you would expect in a well regulated army for the people around for commanding officers to, to look at what's just happened and, and, and take some sort of action that immediately yet immediately. or it's like a poison to the, to the just war to the just actions of your unit. it even means something morally, if you, if you allow that to go on and what the injury cause to your other soldiers. so as a commander in war, you would immediately stop that soldier, take his weapon and he would seek you would seek justice as in an investigation. a trial in the military, that's part of the glue is the military justice system to identify that and then show all the other soldiers that it's not acceptable. ok, so that, that, that's in
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a well regulated the army, but from your own experience, and from what you know of this war and the way that russia treats and trains, it's, it's conscript army, are you able to paint us a picture of a sort of precious eye on young conscripts in a conflict like this. yeah, yeah, i think i could, i mean, con, shipped isn't a bad thing. mandatory service is used by other military that doesn't descend into violent war crimes, genocide, things like that. in the situation of a young person in combat, he looks to the leaders around him or the people that have been there longer. right . the senior soldiers in the russian system they have, they don't have a, a senior listed core. they have officers and have warrant officers, but they absolutely have been around for a long time. that soldier becomes accountable to his group. and that's how you regulate it. but this is not always the russian military. there they have no ethical code. the massacres that we have seen are either condoned or ordered. so
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this is and i think this is an important moment even for the ukrainians to show the world that they are a professional government, a professional force where there are rights and debt. so it wasn't, it is vengeance is justice. a rush of course is considering its own trials of ukrainian a soldier. this is the russian, a lawmaker and chair of the countries parliament committee on international affairs at lee, and had slootsky locker use them numb, abuse way to exchange a sufficiently large number of prisoners of war through from the ukrainian side for these non humans in human form. killers and show the whole world that they are worthy only of capital punishment. thus, they do not deserve to live after those monstrous crimes committed against humanity . the actual and which are being committed continuously against our prisoners of war, a 0. so no better with both the upload. so i want to jump
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a spencer. do you see any equivalence of moral legally, of between the trials starting in cave and those being cold full in moscow? no, i don't mean actually makes me sick. physically sick listening to that person, i thought he was talking about the russian soldiers actions in places like boucher where you would as a nation call your soldiers in for justice against your soldiers. there's no, there's no document investigation showing that the mario will defenders targeted civilians bombed theaters with children written on the outside of it. it just makes me sick. it's a complete, up really thumb at the nose at the entire world that this war is not. it just work for them. he should be calling for his own russian soldiers to be, to be investigated and try for the internationally documented war crimes that are happening every day. there's no evidence of the defenders of mary of doing work,
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right. so we have a, you kind of prosecutor general who says her office is preparing war crimes cases against 41 russian soldiers for offences including bombing, civil infrastructure, killing civilians ripe and looting. so we can perhaps understand, in its broadest terms why, in an invading force might find it useful to destroy buildings, even civilian ones. i suppose it's a personal outrageous at so many of us find so difficult to contemplate. do you have any insights to share as someone who's been in conflict about what terms? some men in war, inter rapists and murderers? no, actually, i don't. that's, that's a special kind of evil. not. i've seen bad soldiers in those soldiers are identified and then rapidly secluded not given the autonomy to operate weapons and fighting war. so i can't get, you know, mindset of
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a rapist or what we've seen in the russian soldiers doing at mass, not just individuals. other, the investigations will be extreme jurisprudence as an investigations videos, evidence collecting. but to get in mind, there's no excuse just so you're clear for what has been done by russian soldiers to civilians. tying their hands behind their back and shooting them in the back of the head. right. i agree with you that in war, civilian buildings and things that will be destroyed, such as like an enemy is used as a headquarters. but if you're, if you follow the laws aren't caught, like you do everything, you can to ensure the minimis, mount of collateral damage possible, right to certain people and to the infrastructure. that's not what happened in russia across the entire country of ukraine, that they're going through with extreme diligence and investigating everyone. good
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talking. that's very interesting. thank you so much for joining us, john spencer, from the madison policy form. and you were soldiers in ukraine, 2nd largest city hockey have recently repelled the russian attempt to take the city . the soldiers who fought to protect it are being held as heroes. but so too, with the volunteers who headed to the front line without arms or training to rescue civilians trap to me in battle city during the heaviest fighting. the w reporter, albion se has been to visit one volunteer in a hospital in the faith, who told him his story. waking up from a nightmare after 2 months of operations, said he, yvonne choke is recovering from his wounds. after the war broke out, he volunteered to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of har. keith, in his own car, he estimates he took about 70 people to safety. oh,
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not counting their pets. so it was him. despite his perennial smile, he was in a constant state of fear. one night his fears came true. what's officials? i'm a bunch of tickets. everything we see on the scene talk or in the movies, and it's not like that on your life. well actually it's scary and you don't know what to do with it. he picked up several medical workers around 8 p. m. to drive them out of the city. not long after they heard gunfire. little at the level but not as long brower when i turned left her a thumbs up. the driver's side was exposed to a momento, consechi, and on the dance. when i felt the 1st bullet hit my leg only going up on me with clickable b 2nd shot. tore of my finger hello, hello, hello for butter. i really saw that moment as well, but i couldn't believe it was real. his loss of gifts in the years that it was like a nightmare thorn among the model, the quality i love, i felt like a bullet in my back. i'll spring like it felt i was starting to florida. yeah. you each of our have so which on i said why i think of being shown in the back. it was
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good. and the thing we saved my life is that i was ferrying people from a clinic saggy and victoria drinking. and victoria close to the holy. my lung victoria menu because if not like a ducal, i'd have taken a few more brackets. when at sir, should i learn what her collapse with a methodical amount would have been lend? with 5 bullet wounds in his body said he drove another half a kilometer to the nearest ukrainian checkpoint. soldiers rushed him to the hospital, the richer summit, ticklish of cielo dekessa, dealing with amazing that no one else in the car was injured short. little john, not at all. a long one man was grazed by a bullet switched, tore his jeans. but so that was a fan of us regarding not even the cats were hugs which electronic be 30 bullets hit. the car is after you should 5 take me another 25 totally miss. no one could believe it nicely scored. even the soldier said, really what of which you survived you, tony? me for vieira showed that the girl before the war said he was an opera
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singer in italy. he could have stayed there, but something called him home. what still younger? if not me, then who read of so that's what the volunteers say. he's got the stuff, but if not, me them over to robert brazil on some politicians trying to change things said as well as i mean these other people who can not be replaced with the people doing vital work. his doctors have told them he can't sing for now, within a year they expect him to make a full recovery. ah, other european union says it wants to stop using russian fossil fossil fuels by 2027, and it's just unveiled the 210000000000 euro plan to do exactly that. the hope is not only to deprive the kremlin of tens of billions in revenue, but also to strengthen the a used climate policies. european commission, the present ursula fonda line presented the initiative in brussels. but today we're
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taking our ambition yet to another level, to make sure that we become independent of russian fossil fuels as quickly as possible. this whole approach is re power ego. so we power, you will help us to save more energy to accelerate the phasing out of fossil fuel. and most importantly, to kick start investments on a new scale. so i would say this will be this speed charging of our european green via ok to the plan ah, energy savings and renewables. so let's take a closer look at what's arguably the most important source of renewable energy, wind power, but is expansion a here in europe on and off shore has been slow. while asia has seen its wind energy capacity, almost triple since 2020, when farm capacity in the european union is increased by just 4 percent. but that's
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the overall european picture break that down to individual states. and we can see that the pace of offshore expansion varies widely. aside from denmark, no e u member with access to the c, a completed a wind farm last year. but that set to change a germany belgium, the netherlands and denmark of all just announced plans to expand offshore wind capacity in the north sea massively to create a green power plant for europe. we want to increase our total offshore, wind capacity fall, fall by 203010 fold by 2050. and we need that for 2 reasons. one is to tackle climate change, or we're working heart with in europe to make our energy supply sustainable. but secondly, because of the russian invasion in ukraine. first of all, it's driving down energy prices. and in times like these, i think it is very important to show the potential that we have to drive the price
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is now 2nd element there reduces future emissions. this is a goal that we have said as a european, as european union than the not the north sea is the place where we can have large scale generation of electricity in offshore wind parks, in the large capacities that we need. and we can do that in a way which is cost effective today. is it the pitcher please? or germany's economy and climate minister robot hardback was also at that meeting. as being with the w correspondent, julius, how deadly he underscore the importance of this joint initiative. this is really the exception of thing today that we're not planning european grid alone and not turning a hydrogen back from interest on such up a planning power plants absorbing talks together. so this is, this is the new momentum we really need this situation. there have been reports
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that negotiations with katara regarding ellen gee, terminals have hit some problems because of the length of contracts and things like that. do you have any comments regarding those negotiation? not? i have a comment, but i can't go too deep into the negotiations because the companies are really doing the negotiations. but of what it's obvious that we need natural gas if you want to get rid of russian national, natural gas. this is the situation. but we won't be hijacked, and if someone is using the situation to ask oscar cry too high prices are 2 long term contracts that we would find about partners. we really would like to cooperate with a lot of countries, but not under the condition that the what they but they dictate the
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conditions. so it's a market and we will find other suppliers if the categories are asking for too high prices. thank you very much. let's get more, i'll miss a european plan from christian johnson who's ceo of green power denmark in copenhagen. welcome to d w. if the you have target of ditching russian fossil fuels within 5 years, how much of that gap do expect will be filled by wind energy? i think that must be the majority of the gap because when it is you is the only source that is large enough and cost effective enough to, to scale into what is needed right now in the plan today. percent about the north sea and the offshore when there is a huge step forward to get european independence from russian gas. so i like to commend the prime ministers of germany, belgium, netherlands, and denmark for taking this is, did we need this?
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and we need even more to get independence from russia. it's extraordinary though, isn't it? we have known for decades, we have old on every school child will tell us that we have to win ourselves off of fossil fuels. we have to make this transition to renewables. why is it taken a war in ukraine for the a you to take this seriously? well, sometimes when you need to act on problems, they need to be right in your face. and they cute if problems are further down the road, you can see like perhaps we should deal with all the problems. but now the problem is really concrete and right here with us today, we had a problem with russian gas and oil. and we had the problem with the climate, and those 2 problems are coming to get the solution. was it like to fry your and to do that with renewable green? to see primarily from so when is the thing the piece, these changes always sound lovely in the abstract,
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but they end up costing us the consumer right at the start. we know that creating the infrastructure for offshore wind farms. it's expensive, especially deeper waters. we're in the middle of a cost of living crisis. so how much is this going to cost us? how much will consumers end up having to pay more for energy to repay those capital investment costs? actually, my prediction is that consumers will pay less than we do right now with the prices of energy from natural gas and from all of the fossil fuels. if you see the trend of the years, the price for renewable energy has dropped and dropped and drops. if you go back to the 1st would fall off sure that they're not produced. 91, we had to pay a loss subsidies from the state in order to create the wind farm. and if you take the legacy that we had produced and then model plan and then not it is actually the operators who pays the state for the right to use the land in the north sea. so
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going from a state subsidy to a state payment is the trend right now, we need to, to think very carefully where you need the scale, how much can the invest is paying for this? and do we want to continue to have the race to the bottom with the workforce and the working conditions that we see iraq, the walls, or will we have your pins then of sustainability, not only in the energy or also the production of the windows. and it's so lovely, i'm so increasingly cheap and inexpensive. one wonders why we haven't done this before. well, we should have done it before, but both dishes should have taken action before, but instead of pointing fingers of what should have been done, i just like to be happy and pleased about what has been said and promised today that now we will strengthen the time for planning, we will increase the span of openness to where you can invest as an investor. and
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right now there are private in, this is our pension funds, who want to invest without a subsidy in renewable energy. and so that on the market price. so this is a new sensation, this is a new way. why hadn't been you without states and a quick word on the environmental impact, i will, the explosion of all this underwater noise from all these new to created wind farms effect marine life. it would be ironic if i knew green energy sources ended up being environmentally catastrophic. well, 1st of all, that will be areas in the north sea and other places that should never have wind farms. there are protected areas that should continue to be totally protected from fishery and from offshore wind. but what we can see right now is some of the results coming back is actually telling us that it could be good for biodiversity. if you have wind farms and the fundament and the sandy bit areas,
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they can create that best environment for plants and fish. and other animals in the sea. so i will not say for sure that this is bad to buy a t that could turn out to be good if we're planning green energy and good environment for the fish at the same time. thank you so much for joining us for christian johnson from the green part demo. ah, the u. s. a soccer federation has reached an agreement to which will say it's men's and women's team and research teams receive equal pay. the deal which runs until the end of 2026 also creates a mechanism for sharing prize money from tournaments like the world cup american women have consistently out before their male counterparts at major tournaments will now have identical performance based bonuses for all games and competitions. that is almost done the competition as ever, continues online either at c d,
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were there consequences, deceitful cover of tactics ensure huge profits, but those responsible made in germany next d, w. into the conflict with sebastian as the kremlin began its war against you, crated force. but closure of russia laughed independent media outlets to secure absolute control of the public narrative about the invasion, but didn't work. my guess is week is yet catherine project causes news. editorial presenter and one of the last channels to be shut down conflict in 60 minutes on d. w for the bowl in question of whether the next cry is will come. but only when and how the media will deal with it.
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