boston revealed to the world that the major problem was the duplicity, the dishonesty of the hierarchy, of the bishops who were covering this up. and then lying about the newspaper team with the boston globe. not only did stories about the individual priests, but they went after the system and that's what was important there. ah, had a way of doing a comp on the table with his hand, which expressed his frustration at how are people could betray the priesthood under holiness of their vacation. and you could also feel this suffering in the way he reacted to narratives. and you could also see it in his eyes. want to ask you a question about other muscle. yeah. i can, you don't have,

i'm not certain forms of cuz las vegas is in it. even. i think inconvenient in his moment to come to me, i got a question about a question whether you have an awesome moment or there's an issue with a come to me when here's a moment just given that not look it well, we fight, i feel is, is when it bang so upset that scene get in his him will main door d in it. at that time writing an you about all the reports regarding ma, seattle, e, d, all sexual abuse and other accusations. did he show congress misconduct and terms, or manito, alcohol, and drugs in all kinds of other crimes, e or tools i will shoals, andy, batches, capitals, but he could not say anything black because he did not have pope john cole. the seconds permission they'll pop. i think the analysis of that being are not so much concerned about the children that he had violated. that never was the primary

concern. the primary concern was he was the embarrassment to the holy see the embarrassment to the system. that's what the problem was. in 2004, despite the revelations, the vatican commemorated marcial 60th anniversary of his ordination to the priesthood. that singer neither attended the celebrations in saint peter's square, nor the legionaries event that followed. this is his big event with all the legionaries that were there. with a lot of cardinals in archbishops were there. and here's the noise for padre, the living st. with this young girl sitting on his lap. and then it comes out that she was his daughter. and he had the brazen us to bring his mistress and his daughter to the celebration. what killers? why did he do that? because he could other that he knew nothing would happen to her that he thought. and if they touch me, leave a vatican, and the whole catholic church are implicated to come as no one would dare tack

marcial. because emily is this living st though is protected by the charge for blood hillis in light of these events. that singer authorized an investigation into marcell you manual this boys a year after being named hope. the club brought singer strip marcial of his posts in the legionaries, me to ship a lally, and ordered him to a life of prayer and penance. happy that which he did not adhere to general company of the vatican published its decision in a one page statement. essentially marciello only punishment was to live a secluded life and coll collin, was says, a kumasi as you were twin benedict, the 16th finally took action. it was very clearly a surgical operation of the child. he torpedoed father monsieur while at the same time protected the legion so he put his luggage. it was as if he wanted to remove

one card from a house of cars without bringing the whole thing crashing down, jacked. jack to devote to don this yonder fossil gotcha to juggled combat. the vatican never revealed ma, sales offenses in detail. marcial spent the rest of his days living in luxury unscathed cutting i saw the leaves that's wrapped singer is remarkably removed from reality. he thinks an abstract principles, sion ill calls himself. augustine asked that is, he thinks and ways associated with plato. i think in her the truth only takes place in heaven seated scenes are our eternal values, feats, if nor everything we have are only approximations while we are that is wiser, generally does not deal concretely with the every day on play with the differentiated and that which cannot be precisely pin down too much with that, which one must always say div, that's another aspect to it that keeps, he does not deal with any of that. he wants principles,

every principle him. ah, lucas didn't move clear. we raced is very clear, low, even evoking a twice in that there is no alternative. so just yet, if the tree is bad, it is impossible for it to bear good fruit to possibly kill. if we swim in pirates and a very special welcome to the legionaries of christ in out, it is still georgia. good image. it didn't. there was terrified when i left the order little managers. it was the worst day of my life years old and truly should prove. i hugged my mother and cried and cried, ma'am,

only while it did. the marie i was devastated. all was lost. emily poor it grows more for you. come when it was strange. the same happened to many former legionnaires through the day it came out that father, marcia was a scoundrel who had led this double life. is i 1st help laughing it? did you computer? are you into rudy? i couldn't help myself directly to that. it was terrible so she but i had to laugh, he clotty because all the tension that had built up, literally all the gills to sit docile, get on was released at want the ability or not the last. i like letty

to was no surprise to me. this priest would abuse the child because i knew the adults abuse children. i was abused myself as a child. so like the reality of all of that. and i never expect that the priest to be ultimately that different to anybody else. just because there are didn't da, da da joseph rattling up think that are a different the priest is called to a very high calling, but he also needs good and solid human formation. he needs to know himself. he needs to accept the weaknesses he cannot change.

but he also needs to lead a lifestyle that is compatible with his court. at a time when the reputation of priests had plummeted, world wide, po benedict, the 16th announced in 2009 that there'd be a special year for priests. his aim was to honor and revive the sanctity of the priesthood. oh, and then came the moment of the laying on of hands. and finally, when cardinal fowl hobble, called out to us the words of jesus. i'm d cameras. it is an innovation. this recognition isn't on

friday, i no longer call you servants, but friends, by you priestly ordination, as initiation into the community of jesus, his friends, goal to be with him and to spread his message. is anyone shafts or for you know, to his disbelief, those, this teaching that when you are all day and you are ontologically, changed up to that ever meant never meant anything to me am. but i think in some circles there was a sense that that this confirmed some special grace saw a privilege on you that made you a different puffs. a number of victims offered to help advise the church and how to grapple with the instances of sexual abuse. i remember from speaking to the

bishops at the am gregorian in 2012 and speaking about how my abuse at 1 in the evening. he would abuse me physically, sexually. and then the next morning he'll come round name, give me there, the eucharist with the same hand that he'd abuse me with an after finish speaking, that was a bishop stood up and he was absolutely horrified that he had never actually he said he'd never looked at an abuse or like that before because it was his priesthood that was involved as long as the be and he said, why, why are we not throwing all these men out the church, but what goes on as fish was just my description of something which involves something which was very sacred. but you know, my body should have been just a secret. nancy toto never did. okay. is 1st of all, i must say that these revelations were

a shock to me. they bring deep sadness. it is difficult to understand how those to me, the version of the priestly ministry was possible. it is such a good idea to proceed with the closing ceremony of the year for priests in 2010, marked the largest gathering of clergy in recorded history. despite the reports of clerical abuse, world wide, pope benedict the 16th clung to his image of the priest. he put his faith in the renewal and repentance of the community. so that and as it was, until he formulated something in a way i've been thinking about ever since. and gomez, it goes to the devil through dirt in our faces during the year for priests. i had to ask myself, he who does he mean it? does he mean the victims might end up? does he mean the press that reported about it, sir? the, the who through the dirt here. yeah. who is the devil? right? based in the toy food in the thought is ha,

the abolished us in truth, this priest. it was diabolical. that's acres yard that the very figure at the center of the year for priests i was on the horizon, was connected to the most disgraceful justice that most profound misery, rob, and most repugnant discovery. the easter on the speed of our dexter. namely and of the abuse of children or m miss paul from kingdom. i know the called the right singer poke benedict. feel that the priesthood is an extraordinary vocation of 1st of all, a vocation to oldness. so a life of sin and abuse of minors is incompatible with the vocation to the priesthood of the underlines. either. on the other hand, i saw that it must be acknowledged that cardinal sing. i was aware of this reality for years because to our own f at house. well,

it's just the sheer number of cases that was new. to me offset is not might the beginnings it was believed that there were a few isolated incident, minute does, but the investigation get it and the inquiry showed that that was not true. delta, so home, then our force is get psyched us nice. and then in 2010 especially by thousands. there was this to nami, of cases in iraq. in india, that's a dark shadow. suspicion has been cast over so many priests and religious, who perform their ministry with honesty and integrity, and often with her royal self sacrifice. we ask god's forgiveness and his hating. we ask this what ourselves and we asking for the victims from being so gravely wronged by those who. where are brothers in my own case,

i. i went to report my abuser 25 years after the boost my local curate. and his attitude was that the boost must have been my fault and i was forgiven for us. and he wouldn't take the priest's name because he said if he did, he'd have to do something about it. and i left the discussion, feeling devastated. and it took me another 10 years to ever speak about it. again. what i discovered in the murphy report was what he told the police when he was interviewed was that he'd been told in the seminary in a case like thus never to take the priest's name during the ear of john paul and benedict. people were appointed as bishops in the church right around the world and very much in ireland. not because of their leadership ability, but because of their orthodoxy. so what we got as a leadership team and the church where people who were ultra orthodox

but almost by definition had no leadership ability in them and were not able to think clearly for themselves. so the, when the crisis hit, there was slumped into go yourself, bishop over come to the victims yourself and encourage them to go to the place. i suppose perhaps i should perhaps i should have done, but i am too. well. i've so much to do. it was the fact that the church leadership seemed to be quite comfortable lying to people to protect and the abuses with evidence mounting at systemic child abuse in church institutions. the irish government commissioned 3 invest.