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partial style plan to rebuild ukraine because it's been actually ravaged as once he was seen in the room to speech. we're talking about hundreds of hospitals that destroyed $1300.00 schools and countries. infrastructure is really crumbling, under the weight of the russian on slot. at the same time, he's also going to be looking for more military support as well. and as emily was saying, just there is also this question of the sanctions regime. of course, he's going to be speaking to some of the most influential business in economic leaders around the world. and there is some question how long there would they will be willing to support these sanctions against russia. because of course, that had some of the pocket book there, they're dependent to a certain extent on income that they generate in the russian federation. now in the run up to today's meeting in davos, there have been some ukranian delegates who kind of tempered expectations saying that they don't expect any massive new pledges coming from the international community. come from business leaders. i think more than anything else. this is going to, they're kind of expecting and hoping that they can get people on line and make sure that they keep maintaining the sanctions regime that we've been seen over the last
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several months. can many are already anticipating the end of the war, but nobody really knows when that's going to come along. so there's a focus on getting pledges of money to rebuild the economy in ukraine. but is there anything really that the delegates in devils can do to help bring this war to an end? well, that really is the open question. because at this point, this war kind of has 2 different aspects. there is the conflict on the ground, and at the same time this economic war of attrition that we've seen wage between the criminal and the and western europe and north america are more broadly. now, when it comes to that, russia was able to temper the initial shock. i mean, we have to be quite open about it. western powers did try to torpedo the russian economy. they tried to crash the rouble, they were hoping that they could create kind of a shock, an economic shock, which could then move the kremlin to stop its invasion. and unfortunately, that doesn't seem to have been the case. i have to remember russia's been dealing with extreme sanctions regime for the last 7 years. so lot of the changes that they
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needed to make to actually whether that initial economic storm seem to be already baked into the economy. but the further we get down the line, the harder it is going to be for the kremlin to whether this economic storm, i mean the already having difficulties. and when it comes to manufacturing, the already having difficulties when it comes to economic goods. and each month, the sanction regime continues, it's going to be harder for them to keep their economy propped up, especially as we're moving towards the fall if something like an oil embargo, which is currently being debated comes into play. or if western europe stops buying gas, that would create a huge hole in the prem one's budget at a time when they have incredible expenses. so there are definitely economic lovers that the international community could pull. the question is, if there's going to be that support for that and dollars emily, there's an exhibition going on right now in dallas, and it's getting a lot of a lot of attention. it focuses on, alleged russian war crimes in ukraine. tell us more about that.
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yes, well basically there was, you know, before this year, a huge russian presence here in dallas, at the world economic forum on the center, a promenade here. there are sort of stands including houses for different countries . and russia also had a russia house, which kind of was well known for giving people lot go. and, you know, the russian delegation was well known for these glitzy parties that they hosted. they even hosted an ice skating event a one year this year. however, the forum has completely severed ties with russia. that means that no rush and nationals at all are in attendance even, you know, oligarchy who have come out of vocally against this war or not attending. and instead in the place of the russian house, there's this russian war crimes house. and there's an exhibition in there, you know, which includes hundreds of photos in this, almost kind of very visceral video of exhibition of the suffering of the russian of
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the ukrainian people at the hands of russian soldiers, the war crimes that have been committed and documented. they're kind of really packing a punch and i think that's one of the, um aspects. you know, one of the ways that the ukranian delegation here is trying to remind people here in this it dillard setting that there is still a war going on and that they need support. emily, i do stay with us, aaron, you to, we're going to be coming back to you, of course, with, with much more. but 1st we're going to take a look at, at what's going on in ukraine itself. we do have ukranian present broadmoor. so lensky hoping to address the forum in davos any moment now. but let's 1st look at this report. this used to be the russia house here at the world economic forum. now it's been re christened the russian war crimes house. a ukrainian billionaires backing the project to highlight alleged abuses committed by russian troops in ukraine. the world economic forum cut all ties with russia for this year summit.
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meanwhile, davos is rolling out the red carpet, for the biggest delegation from ukraine ever. prison zalinski will open the meeting with a video address and for ukrainians here, it's a bittersweet moment. we are here in this beautiful setting, but at the back of our mind always are these images of these horrific killings and atrocities and war crimes going on. as we speak back in ukraine, and we are here to as best as possible, represent those people and to do all that we can to galvanize the international community to support ukraine even more despite dallas's spring cheer. the mood is somber amid soaring geopolitical tensions. the war and ukraine has worse and the global food and energy crisis, and there are other urgent problems to tackle as well. climate change the ongoing pandemic and fears of an economic slowdown. the challenges are so big that we
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need the so board and the ideas of every one around the world. so i think this is a place where people trust each other and we can build solutions together. well, deb ross is a global convenor of a global decision makers. i'm hoping that it would really be able to facilitate engagement because we are all for a peaceful world and we are old, full global prosperity. ukrainians have more immediate concerns. i don't think that we will see any, you know, additional ah pledge as being made here in terms of financial weaponry aid or something of that sort to ukraine. a di hold that we can also use a child will business community here and have them on board. also giving up an on some of the revenues that they were probably looking for. ah, with the russian federation. it's now up to the global lead here in the swiss alps
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to see if there's an economic path to peace in the war in ukraine. and if you're just joining us or we're waiting for the laudermill zalinski, the ukranian president to address the doubles forum, the world economic forum, taking place in device. we've got some live pictures there for you can see the stage empty presence. lensky is going to be addressing the forum by video link and that should be starting just a couple minutes now. meanwhile, we have our correspondence on this. so 2 of our correspondents who were part of our moscow bureau before it was shut down by russia. aaron chilton is wilson with in studio, and in the us is emily sherwin who is going to join us now. emily, i wanted to ask you about the focus on ukraine at this year's bevels forum. it is sucking up a lot of the attention there, but the forum and doubles the world economic form is supposed to have a global focus. a global perspective is that perspective still reflected in the
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program. you know, the program reflects a huge amount of the, of topics. there are huge amount of topics on the agenda and a lot of them are really difficult to tackle. and that isn't just the ukraine war, but also climate change. the world is also coming out of the corona virus pandemic, but it is true that a lot of those difficult, um, you know, items on the agenda are kind of linked up with ukraine, showing that, you know, the global economy really is linked all these countries that are here attending here the forum as well are linked up, for example, you know, you have this looming of food, a crisis, even before the war in ukraine of the world of the world food program warned that this could be a really difficult here for harvests. and now you have 22000000 tons of grain,
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which are supposed to be exported to the world, which are stuck in ukrainian ports at the moment because of the war happening. and also because ukraine has mind, it's water is in the black sea. so that means that you know, that grain can't get out and there is actually a harvest, a new harvest taking place at the end of june. so if that grain isn't exported, it will simply rod and that grain is important. for example, for africa, 40 per cent of grain there is, is from ukraine. thank emily. we can now see a lot of miss zalinski is about to address the world economic forum in davos, switzerland. if you're just joining us, we're bringing you special coverage of that speech by the ukranian president of both of them. here we go. we're gonna cut straight over to the seam ukrainian president as he falsified addresses the begun unfold for him. but we have some introductory remarks there preceding his,
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his statement will course bring it and bring it to you in just a moment when it gets going on. let's listen and see what, what's being said, 6, really a no koreans to seek refuge. i bought a displace. oh, well, 8000000 people. reasons a country. every country has survived to live in peace, determine its own means of governments and shoes, to strategic alliances. it wants to have every country's territorial integrity and so we're going to t must be respected, says our main principles as to president of switzerland has shown us of international law and suppose scroll wall to world war 2. although mister president now on the 1st official day of several different
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reform, a meeting of 2022 recon reagan bebbles at some most consequential geopolitical. ready and geo or criminal break moment is a pastor case. mr. president, we have all seen so leadership, your courageous leadership. we are eager to hear from you on road life ahead for your country and it's people you are wishing for peace in europe and see international global and how we can assist you. because everybody of us is affected by what's happening in your country. mister president, sir flores yours
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with a change. it's a great honor for me. on the whole mister chairman, islam, professor schwab president, that guy has sung in president of late, isn't chapman. i was grateful for the opportunity to take part in the discussions that the forum, a theme, a history at a turning point, government policies and business strategies for mom this year and i'm on my own. they were turning point. she would have to use to become more than just so rhetoric figuring speech, this is really the moment when it is decided with a brute force will rule the world if so, the forces not interested in our thoughts and there's no need for phone them. meetings in divorce as there would be no reason for that brute force. yeah. school
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. nothing about the subject. ation of those had 6 to subdue good bullying and it does not disguise god but kill yes. all at once. he had the russia don stout's in ukraine. the jazz as we speak on was golden was lama feel good today. but a chair by the white boy and of a lot. look at the ability of the full moment. the russian housed in the divorce. it has been turned into a house of russian foreign crimes. and this is an example if there transfer, make sure the available at what do russia has done to itself, but becoming as a date of war criminals and what it brings to the world. because it inspires what the other potential aggressors to address let instead of successful peaceful cities . there's only black rooms in the state of normal trade. seem cool as mine said, block ports and you great. instead of the torres mcchloe skies and south san diego,
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i've russian bombs and cruise missiles. boy yep, we're glad that this is what the world would lie. google mean even that to fall tyranny, moment to let that would you not have a proper response from the humanity? it would resemble a large set of historic crime in those when we say history remembers many moments when everything changed dramatically. for example, he can couple hung several shorts far, that he will immediately kill millions of people's village if those strokes were fired only since june 28th. 1914 in sarajevo in history remembers how much grief or who want the person on budget can do it. see if it can't see it can understand that it's not a big help in the resistance to put it as it was, for example, in 1930 ang, immunity. old some historical twists and turns were then the now the civil some not that we always had to respond to them. now we've been trying to prepare for all
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other yes. story, col, upheavals, so long. so as to mitigate their possible consequences. we're trying to heal the wounds out of catastrophe. is that over to follow one or another historical animal twice? and now we have the large collection of such responses. those un charter with all these agencies, the oversee, the i a, the w t o and many other institutions as the fed other im now a lot of you to respond to what we have face such a movie day that a bird has probes it possible. now to try to attempt those institutions fold motor and challenge is definitely not would need to change the approach not to respond, but to any revenge to flee, but haven't been in english and what not only to adapt to you. reality is what we had livingstone, but to create the you, the tools you,
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then those visitor will look at what ukraine has already done. we have sedans, meal established at historical precedent for herridge. we don't consumption laza. oh, didn't listen to those who saddled on our defense would not hold longer than just a couple of days. we have, he stopped the russian army to which was called the 2nd largest in the world at the coast of having farmington guy, the coast of south tens of lives. we gradually bushing the occupiers out of our territories. they would we have to do that. the flu is is visible, so we were horrid, lost a chair. and a full range of sanctions would be applied against russia, with preventive fights. that could not down the vehicle, any aggressive bethany, i'm sure it me. the answer is no, no the pushing any pre langton warren and will be guaranteed should this sanctions of the world would be preventive and not just in sequence imposed as the response.
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rain has another precedent in the 3 month is not that precedent for the unseen unity in the democratic world around the emotions of change and admiration for your brains cartridge and around the understanding that you would need to fight for the freedom. and now, hundreds of millions of citizens in democratic countries are put in posher would have on government law and companies measure to make sure they would limit or restrain their relations with the aggressor state with russia. not old only. and it's not to help the people utilize it was under attack, but this is happening on the now let me move forward even though russia started its war against you. great. back in 2014. yes. we are grateful for this support, but i would say evil that happened was that of the young man that it's, he immediately that's unit to that pressure on governments. and companies for this
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type of thing is quite for the freedom would russia started this full scale, warri would bring all these losses, a full ukraine and upon world, i'm sure that the answer to these question is that is also know. now we see that the world listen for the it of, and i was, it believes ukraine, but there is also a certain expectations of the world as to how the situation will be resolved. what tools will work more than just want to show you what's going on? can we create to prevent such aggressions in future? and how do we stop the brute force film that has challenged everything and william that we all will cherish and valued? that's what the turning point means. ladies and gentlemen shook, i fiddle with dawn, expect guy for the saddle short. spect part. don't expect for russia using their special weapons. either he can be called a lie, a logical yonder and would even more so nuclear should not give you the grass.
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certainly the impression that the world would not receive it. now, margaret attacked footboard, the frame with him and grey giller. she wasn't, but he had peaceful older in the world with the maximum efforts possible. that is what the sanction should be. there should be maximum ins as well, so that russia and every on their potential aggressor wants to wage a brutal war against its neighbor, would clearly know what is the immediate consequences for their actions. yolanda bush and i believe only there's still no such thing chance against russia if there should be. there should be russian oil embargo, as the old russian banks should be born to no exception. he said that there should be an abandonment of the russian id sector that should not be manage right with russia. it says that this should have been on these across it and 4 sections, prussia, but that will work to one vincent league before the decatur to come and with so
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horrid story that, that's a deal of it. it is necessary to send a precedent, quote, incomplete withdrawal the fool flooring businesses from russian market, so that your breasted branch would not be associated with work by the light. so the new offices bills in goose, were not used by the glory criminals and that their bloody intrinsic value. this match must matter which eliza bona particularly when a full scale war begins. and the global markets of becoming depth destabilized. because someone, someone there she is simply neglecting the values. zip nestled. in that case everyone will suffer losses up on my mac. we offer every company that leaves the russian markets, okay to continue operating in ukraine can and will have access not only to our market, unfortunately, 1000000 consumers, but also to the common market of europe. and your brand is in your possessions. they would only increase because you would truly support the production of freedom,
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our representatives here and douglas can and for all of you on the details of the prospects that ukraine opens for your business. ladies and gentlemen, thought we all for the world is normally to start a precedent for a built in the country after the war, which will show you every one who dreams of destroying the life of a neighbor, but that the war is not working for luxury by in why to take part in this rebuilding the site and the amount of work is enormous, that he has an adult more than half a trillion dollars and losses. his hands of thousands of facilities were destroyed . when did you rebuild entire seat is in industry openly. most and we offer a specials in the local store, egless significant model of rebuilding one, let each of to partner countries or partners 8 lines on it or even partner companies will have the opportunity to tackle patronage over in particular, regional mine. it could be sitting up or could be, it's your ribbon and industry dime, britain, you basically say, denmark,
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that the european union and other leading international entities have already chosen a specific area for the patronage in rebuilding. and thanks to these model, if relation, newly more just thought the post war rebuilding could be fast. yeah. could be efficient, it could be of quite quality. this would not only allow to attract the bass and specially soc into exec juniors, built, owns valid, those manage res, thumbing and others. but it will also be the largest to win the rambling since the world. one or 2, it will become the largest opportunity for anakin la makes and i'll wake poor version. and i hope that at the beginning of the international conference in look, i know that was mentioned like the president cassius, as well as the in house in july. this year dedicated to the post war reconstruction of ukraine boulevard hoggard country and most of the leading companies of the world
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will come up with their own packages of proposals and which i don't know what they are taking this opportunity. i would like to extend them where it's a gratitude for him to switzerland for organizing this conference and supporting l . ratford. so i would like to go on to know the efforts of what was so a funder line, particularly her proposal to establish a black form rebuilding and reconstruction that would be managed jointly by the repeat commission and ukraine and will allow to direct the european union resources to restore it in normal life, in our country, in the summer, that the list to the u. precedence that we need to would not be complete without a few more decisions. because there has to be a precedent for punishing dave bressard. and is it the ad for the investments of the peaceful life, the russian assa, that isn't the good which her last, catherine, and different jurisdictions must be found to them at all. it has to be seized. work froze at 60 and then they should be allocated to a special, fun,
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even that would be used when they come to help all those affected by the war. of course, this is not easy, so this isn't want to let. after that, there would be definitely no multiplying, shed every aggressor to do what russia has done and what it continues to do. if the aggressor that loses everything like that, he definitely deprives him of any motivation to start the warranty. that's more in any response to the mass fabbing ang meal him was a isn't too late or by, by it's definition did for the family should be stopped. only preventively when it's not yet started. like my now the world you must simply has no to like that. and we propose to establish the organization for responsible and democratic states . exporters of food products who can produce with respect for human rights and global trade rows. the motivation that yeah,
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for us it is very similar to whatever the turning points they are in history. the humanity shoot. i tool to protect themselves against a hunger and ukraine is ready to provide a platform for the activities. you have this new organization, which is definitely an important one and the puzzle. one more aspect, this war of rush against ukraine convinces after one day. it support into the country under attack is the more valuable the sooner it is. provide not weapon policy that is funding political support. he issue and sanctions against russia. if we would have received them by 100 percent of our needs or brazzel at once, like in february will really the result isn't, but it would be tens of thousands of lives. i would say this is why ukraine needlessly all the weapons that we ask, not just one of the ones that human were being provided. that is why youth in these funding that's at least $5000000000.00 us dollars per month,
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of course. and all the fun leslie will do that we need for rebuilding our country. this is why we have established a font thing for rebuilding ukraine. hold united 24 and we called that horn. every one means that join dazzle platform and the one that i'm lame, they import each and every doner will have a specific proposal of how to help and where to allocate those funds. where are those priorities? the targeted nature of more work is the absolute priority. but am them un, down under these brands, united, $24.00, we propose to establish a global structure that can, would be, would that 24 hours that would provide sufficient supports to any country vienna that has, that he knows, suffer to for face to military attack, a natural disaster for him or it been done. so we all thank you for that,
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for security guarantees, based on what we have face or what, what we have, i went through should the best buy, and there must be something that sets a precedent for double timely assist to easy to do everyone who needs it but it to save, but if it lives literacy with to decide, i know that social stability nivia old did necessary elements for normal economy. his little furs updated something like a 911 sir, a building, a guy. there has to be vantage similar circle, but that is called united $24.00, but which would guarantee the security the on a global scale to do the ladies and gentlemen, a man whose name is still well remembered. george marshall said the following shale, titian is 2nd 1947, not from what he said. for all our policy is not against a country or indoctrinating woman against goodness, poverty, despair,
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and k is a doin more, let's go. the broadening is to revive a functioning economy. in the world to allow oil believe the emergence of the political and social conditions here in wichita praying, institutions can exist. of course, words are relevant even today my proposals, wallader are vc, vc, all the same. there are designed to come to the hunger poverty. disparate case, and of course, the war which is unleashed by the russian and which brings nothing else but hunger equality, despair close to many in the world. not only 2 on glasses to have crazed, because guarantee i am a deity shalise and stability and security requires all the vows acting quickly and preventively. we should not be afraid to say when you precedents winnable not cheap, and this is what the world should learn. will at various gentle turning points to
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which high to high prize if gabrielle this was the prize? well, for the fact that world you won't only respond but not to ad preventively. so now we can do it differently. probably find the link within the correct way, mama, thank you for your attention. glory to ukraine. hm. and that was ukrainian present. below them is the length is speaking to will leaders at world economic forum was taking place right now in devils, which when we were listening to the speech live president zalinski, again repeating his requests for further aid for his country to help with rebuilding effort. but also for sanctions to be tightened even further on russia, in response to it's far more the word launched in ukraine. we also heard
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the presence lensky. they're appealing to the world to act preventively moving forward, and to make an example of russia. oh, joining me in the studio is aaron tilton and in divorce we have emily, sherwin who's covering this and has been listening to that speech along side as so we go the 1st you, emily, your impressions of blog news lansky is addressed to the world economic form well, he basically said that the world now is at a turning point when it has been faced with these russian war crimes. and essentially he said that the instant, the international institutions that exist at the moment really aren't kind of good enough for that. they have to work on not only responding to challenges, but actually to preventing them and he kind of actually leveled quite a few accusations. i think at the international community assembled here in diverse saying that essentially.
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