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if you're gonna do to keep many stunted b sullivan boys, he'd been. why out of my father was he thought he stuff horrible. dodge before. where did the kind of learning we do in schools come from? again from about 300 years ago. and it came from the last and the biggest of the empires on this planet. imagine trying to run the show without computers, without telephones, with data, hand written on pieces of paper and travelling by ships the victorians actually did it. what the did was they created a global computer about the made up of people having to have it. i never went again, no one on somebody put a bit out of it still with us today. it's bought the bureaucratic administrative

machine. in order to have that machine running, you need lots, lots of people. they made another machine to produce those people. the school, the empire's gone. so what i'll be doing with that design that produces these identical people. and what are we going to do next? with ah,

followed up with the idea is to have the company to glass front to a building here? yes, i'm selling it to have one that had it built almost a date on whether god was what i got to pay that. what don't try it. one out of a bottle. i was has had a good you know, not on the economy. it wasn't pulling me down money, but it's sometimes of the how well i should, i use shut down and i'm not a doctor . you need to know whether this, you know, i mean among them beginning with i get the i know

grow nothing. notice that any of the other guy and will need it. they will in the avenue deleted the apartment. i wanna do like a big la monro, she's robert yakobelli. nancy and we'll do the, i see you back bash. what did i, lou? actors help with that? are lou actor booked the? she'll know we're like the mileage on mega police on, on the casual. no one is it that that john dr. alicia, bon general with that you quote i got juggle ah, on the day and they get a wanted to get chocolate. i needed kelly that

it took you to come on, somebody that was on the shady, just avi connect you by the time is your computer donna or come back? i can look into the order date and time talk bad news. you a good day and if you get a get you when i get there well with the domain or get it to one. 0, oh wow . well me go for, i'm a loan to be added to a different slum vieza. should the one of us for us

my, the, i mean for those who did a read i'm not going to like going to need to will move along with the i got i got a dollar dog at the top of the, the leak up. my jo darma because you haven't been able to reach it with you and what any one of what i mean with it. i don't think i have about what i smell of the name. i don't want to do do, do it a lot of the stuff with them. we don't want to be spare parts for the great human computer. do we? so we need to design a future for learning what is now called the school in the cloud is i think a combination of a lot of surprises which have come to experiments in the last 15 years.

ah, the whole, the whole experiment was an accident. i got this job teaching people how to write computer programs. one day i decided that i wanted to give a computer to some children mainly because feel a little irritated about the fact that i was, you know, in a nice job in a nice place. and there were all these kids who didn't have anything at all. mm. i made a hole in the, in the boundary wall of the some next to my office and stuck a computer inside it just to see what would happen. i connected high speed internet do it. it's about 3 feet off the ground, turned it on and left it there in back after a couple of months, found its play games on it. and the saw me, they said we want to foster processor and a mentor mouse that resides were that groups of children without any adult supervision. and figure out how to use a computer. it's not a big deal today,

but it was a big deal in 1999. and that the do this quite rapidly. it's not as though every child is learning everything they grouping and the succeeding groups. the 1st part that came to my mind was of insects because insects do the same thing . i mean these can build accidents together, but no individual be could be that i i had no background in education at all. i had no option left but to use the only subject they knew, which was physics, to try and explain what was happening. i started to read up on the on existence systems. we don't have any order in and that under certain circumstances, the form patterns, ah, if you have

a completely ordered condition, then nothing much happens. then what in physics you go static equilibrium. ah, and then you could have a completely chaotic situation and things happen totally at random in a way that's also not very interesting. but in between the 2, there is a borderline which physicists call the edge of chaos. and at the edge of chaos, everything happens. you get spontaneous order, it dug limbs, you get flo, you get forces coming in structure. the beauty i, i had no hesitation than saying that, but i've seen that and level in the or how to legality on day one. and then this want in his order starts to appear with different children doing different things. ah,

this is without supervision left alone with an unknown machine in an unknown notion of information are behaving like a high or like a thunderstorm. could it be that learning is something that happens to people when they're at the edge of chaos. the hole in the wall was sufficiently unexpected that i needed to drop whatever else i was doing. it was, there was no way to continue being a nice, satisfied computer program, and i had to find out how they were doing that. that led to a whole series of experiments. and finally, all the way from new delhi to newcastle. oh, my wish really was to make a facility for children where they can learn in groups and a facility which would not look like a classroom. it's

a facility which is practically on band. it would be called the school in the cloud by a tag attend. this is your 1st lesson and project design. i'm really pleased that you chose to do this subject as an option, choice fiduciary phase. and today's less than, i'm gonna tell you a bit about the example that you're going to do, cuz it's important that you understand that in the context of secondary education today, where we're, there's an increasingly prescriptive list of content that students have to cover. i don't think that schools have an answer yet to how they use the internet in a meaningful way. again, we're actually moving away from something like the internet being a useful resource. the best way to prepare them for the exam is just constantly going over the content. practice, practice, practice. it seems

a bit relentless. what i believe, very strong, ne, at my responsibility is to make lifelong learners. i contacted to garza and said how interested i was in the hole in the wolf project where they were engaged, learning they're excited about says i wanted bass, i don't know how to build it school in the quote because i've never been taught i didn't quite know who it was, so i went away in research and i found out who he was and i was really surprised that he would come to our school. this is the basic hardware that 6 computer, the board, one screen with skype and blue, and big screen with the connect the next box. so i'm trying to figure out a design where to be easy to cluster around computers. a single lease which really

speaking belongs to children and is run by children. and they receive a good. that's what's going on. it's a great big experimental thing . what should the place look like? that's what we go to discuss. and kind of like bright warm it could have like or if it was in the squishy chairs like last sunday graph, some of old and maybe like white boards all. cho poets, something that can like almost interact with them. sick. he le tables because the table lay out in some departments pretty rubbish for group work. it's just a very old tired to classroom. and we check the children in math, but i just said, right, if you had to sign a room for learning, what would you want? this is really cool. no, not something that you've designed is going to be up. i'm really looking forward to it because i just wanted say how it all works and runs when it's up and running

with. oh wow. good for beth. hi this is it just heavens, hey, not sullivan's mint. hm. it's nice to like with a team member. yeah, i'm just dying to see the children im here like oh oh oh my god, i live for the good things that on the computer, the age to just right up to one and start doing for men is so bad. a. i know there'd be a lot of people who be suggesting a lot of things that they could do. but if you suggest something to a child,

it always be clothes, things that, that child could have done. if you had not suggested i follow the yellow pine needle doggin. it's hello la, how is it you know the proposition that if you just give kids a piece of technology, they will learn is attractive. but it's not bono, and i will develop world of the developing world as scenes together talk many conferences and i was quite impressed with the idea because it was bold if not a bit utopian. but with all these ideas,

you really got to test them on the ground. unlike most academics, i actually went to see a hole in all project and was shocked at work. so because there were literally holes in the walls, there were no computers lose walls and it lasted 3 months and the people in the school were quite bitter. you know, a team had arrived drilled for holes in the wall of the school. the internet connections barely if ever worked, the kids just played games on them and the whole thing dropped off after 3 months. this me actually result in a form of education colonialism where we just parachute shiny objects into these countries and hope for the best is not as though i love criticism. i think it makes my blood boil, let go what it is, right? i mean, that would be devastating if you look for one of the old hole in the wall sites in india,

it would not be working. maybe the structures do there was an empty hole with no computer. it wasn't sustainable. but the hole in the wall as a concept, the fact that children can self organize their learning and own beam to me that was established by the original experiment. experiments in the english schools. they really explained a lot to me, which i perhaps would not have learnt in india. the 1st part that came into my mind is that who died not drive this process with questions. we called it's sole s o a leave the self organized learning environment. once you've introduced the concept of the soul, then you have to raise a question. generally in the form of i wonder why you are. i wonder what if you design the question right? the question will do the job for you. it will seen a dear drop, right?

so my question is, why are those drops pointy at the top? and roundish at the bottom. okay, i'll see you go then. ah, like, like really be so it must be all like lawn. and then like as it comes to pretty much it either. can you drop it down there? yeah, the deal answer when the involve 2 concepts, gravity and surface tension and lead on through the atmosphere because of gravity at raindrops have mall flattened to bottom and around and talk until they are able to pound with us, increase the pressure on the button and resistance is the fight event. it's really hard to start off with because sometimes you just don't get it. it almost resemble

a fish that's been thrown on. it were beach if flopping around aimlessly for about half an hour. and then you finally get into the water. oh, i say i really like it because it's independent. sometimes your friends can teach him more than your teacher connor in a certain way. if i couldn't get the basic been sebu accepted that given the presence of the internet, if children are allowed to wander in a chaotic fashion, they will crystallize around big ideas. so how do you know any of these websites so reliable and knowledge a looks like a website, you can trust that i think teachers do feel threatened by it was though cigar was saying we don't need teachers anymore. and that's not how i see so little . i think the role of a teacher in a soul is vital not to help them find an answer, but to help them understand how to construct an answer to

a really big question. right, this is my big question for you. oh, just and my gin. what would life be like in the future? hurt robots as that replace humans. that's your big question. you're going to work together as a group, and at the end of the lesson, each of the groups is going to tell me what they found. dobbs ah ah sean hobbies about robots?

oh, wrong. the wrong kind of a dimension. odd. to go up to a group and say why don't you try this keyword or what have you found, sean? do you know? look at park. the book click. the child could hear that sentence as do not try any other. so you're actually restricting, rather than guiding. yeah, i've been teaching 15 years now. and that confidence to step back from the relationship that you have normally as a teacher in front of the classroom and be a part of the learning on the sidelines has changed the way i teach is this combination of big question and collaborative work on the internet and fewer computers and students say that they have to collaborate. this is something that feels different to teachers remotely, like wayne conga took over by robot. is william no robot, right?

know how to know what to do when they walk. talk how didn't know what a since last is slow, smart robots on the robots, cur, big and rob to do anything. in a soul, it's the interaction between the children which is causing all this to happen. it's the conversations amongst themselves that really generates the learning that they do it through what's sort of reflect the way no jobs in the world war, but could never take over what, because called just nevada and back. we feel that log should look good. i mean, a lot of my work gets interpreted as, oh, he doesn't want any teachers anywhere. and he thinks that schools are obsolete and therefore should be done away with i

wonder whether the kids were learning anything or whether they were regurgitating things that they were finding on wikipedia. anytime he finishes with us, we don't have to read. we're going to have to write, we don't have to sing. this misunderstanding persists that i'm trying to say teachers are not required, which is completely wrong. that's not what i'm saying at all. i'm saying the teacher has to do something different. the teacher has to convert a content into a question that would enable the learner to do guys that content. i love it, that it took you to god. i mean, johnny natalie. he could go to look a little hung up on my, on my eyes to be good. i

d, b i t shirt shasky, rama. you're a big busy too. there kinda dow what if she has any florida? boy, i mean i, i shop getting a deck the day he is a dog. good because he is with when the 1st dog, then you have this spontaneous group formation. and then after

a while you find this kind of flocking everybody's on to one group, presumably because that group has found something interesting. and then the d flock . and then if i knew it with that, you know, go about on my telephone. i look, i want to live with monica,

is it that the i'm louise will let suddenly learn about the matter that they got a list of us that we got other political look good. luckily that people are gonna go together and look up what is happening? yeah, you bought it, but i got well, he's under bill but doesn't bill got got i got a got it the the i, i and your family may be funny.

i saw in our school and he wanted retired teachers subtract children in india. and before i knew it, i was talking to children in chicago. i wanted to test the limits of the system. family speaking, children in a south indian village, teach themselves biotechnology in english, on their own. i put in all in the computer that downloaded all kinds of stuff from the internet about d n. a replication came back after 2 months and i gave them a test. the school had gone up from 0 to 30 percent on to and but 30 percent is

a failed. and how do i get them to bustle? encouragement seems to be the key. i couldn't find the teacher. what i did find was a friend that they had a 22 year old girl who was an accountant. i said, use the method of the grandmother to stand behind them whenever they do anything you just say, well wow, i mean, how did you do that? what's the next page? gosh, when i was your age, i could have never done that. i mean, you know what granny's do. so she did that for 2 more months. the scores jumped to 50 percent, which is what the bar schools of new delhi with the trend biotechnology teacher were getting put an ada to say to a child. i know a very interesting question. i don't know the answer does something to a child who thinks that there is a possibility to make

a real contribution to the consciousness of an adult. is jenny j thing, but not the jelly fish really look like that. when the session is going well, those children are leaning in toast, laying gay, a. don't know that you got that one working. yeah. you got the yeah. i now have eat, eat, eat a good

with the don't mess going mom. i'm just good to go on with the jamie quoted up. i thought you know that if you go to your bill down are not going to go on. look, what do you do? don't that i get on board with tracking software. so it is a good budget i could use with a, with

a garage without the internet connection to go without the internet for that he became dead. a few children listlessly playing the same games over and over again. then we got it back up. ah, i think 20 megabyte per 2nd speed, which is unheard of in that area. and godaddy woke up from the dead. with

anybody or near to downtown luna? the one i wanted in middleton was huskily long winded, but i wonder jimmy way dot can make a matter at all. kind of what the dog i'm sure will do. i'll do my house in the 8 i want it, but you're gonna be approaching me. no, i'm not going to take them was in a zone militia in the warriors where she ate. the one was shocked as a witness for you. ready ready with oh, i know

i can come to the computer, shall we do some work to be met so everybody can join in. oh, can you see. ready yeah, okay. i have day. i have you see no m a another hm. so i started to get coordinators to open and close the place, set up sessions with the grannies to do all those things,

which i thought would happen automatically. but though something i had not expected at all, i wanted one china demanded i by anybody who anybody who with no background in education would into a school in the cloud environment with an interest in children become experts at many, many invasive education. they have become my biggest practitioners with some reason i don't want to do though, think of me as a teacher. otherwise they will stop coming if they feel it's like school, i need to communicate with them. generally we give the question more or less every

day. and when i'm going to give a question to the children, and they're not getting the interest to start the question, they will not start the proper answer for that unit to lead a story. he started giving questions to the children to solve. the one i remember was does to morrow exist and the children used a combination of bang, all the 2 english translators. and the answer they gave was that to model does not exist because it cannot be experienced. it's not a question of whether children need the internet, but it's a question of whether children need to know how to learn more affluent children and have people who will help them to learn anyway. but it's children in desolate areas who really desperately need to know how to learn. and i know that the internet does

that. i'm willing to take a bit that the evil influences of the internet, which will of course be that will be considerably less than the good it does. ah, no. i already vote will be my lease and a before when i went outside and i had this big jacket with

my life. i how in europe bonded, i'm ha if i train you, oh i can you screen with warning me could see it. we bought our mother that the boys will have a lot of

money to buy to buy at the bottom. go to said when it was reported to talk about and what is it that anybody as me miss? i'm bob, bob. bob. bob, i wanted to kind of get down and i was like what, how did they them? so one of the, by the targeted by the bars, the wasn't supported on godaddy. oh, oh, it's a bit of them. we don't know. what am i going to get it over? they, what they did in one of the big included with the system looks for rote memorization of facts. you're supposed to sit

alone, you're not supposed to use any assistive technology. you will be asked a question and you have to produce an answer from your head. why? why any of these in life we use the internet and we talked to each other than me. look at how somebody else does it in life, it's called best practice. to kind of robinson crusoe examination if he was stuck on a deserted island in order to figure out how many cocoanut soup and get you needed to solve the quadratic equation. then you victorian educational and save the day when a lot of electricity stoves in the culture of learning here has changed and shifted massive lay because the teachers think differently about how we teach and about how

children learn. we've got 3 years now. if data and every day we trying new things outs, sharing ideas. i think it's just the beginning. ah, one would have thought that at the end of 13 years, the school in mcloud will just illustrate everything that i could predict any but he was anything but that, oh, it is fool. many things that i knew i had brought in new questions. oh, that's the best thing that he says project can do. he's not so much produce fiances as to produce the next set of wish. oh, the future is rushing. mm. and we need to prepare our children for the new would

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