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and a south, a method is going to spend the rest of her life behind bars from margaret her 3 daughters i with i see the same town was part of psychosis is an awful illness. post. fordham is a nasty bench. mother's nightmare starts june, 4th on d. w ah, several 1000 people gathered on this evening and april in central belgrade to sing the russian national anthem. they came to show their support for russia and its
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president vladimir putin with we're on the right side on russia's side. ah, they chant serbs and russians brothers forever. and we don't need the e u. we support the russians because they are our brothers. what is this letter stand for interest for victory? what does russia mean to you? not to ventura, it's al brother land given to me. it's the only country, a pot, serbia, where i could live for the great people. great culture. because simply the fact that russia exists is good news for it was. uh huh. who was this fool? for austria, austria, austria, the enemy? why didn't you say that straight off?
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ah, these demonstrations a regular fixture since the start of the war in ukraine are organized by a far right group called the peoples patrol. their self declared aim to free ukraine of nazis. russian brothers, you but sibyl, in these bad times, we will accompany you on the way to the kingdom of heaven will little long live serbia see long live russia. i couldn't answer that. first and foremost, i support the rush of them. when i compare, i've been thinking for a while that or i should have intervened. and ukraine wondered, a little, saginaw, god, the russians have been dying. that lawyer had fun. there had been atrocities on the don bus region against the russian people every year like that. that's why i support this operation. i don't, i hope it's brought to an end as quickly as possible. he with the fewest possible victims. you know that the d not allocation of ukraine icons reality fil slotted.
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book. the russian war of aggression against ukraine is re interpreted here as an act of self defensible russian propaganda is accepted at face value. ah, belgrade is the only city in europe besides this, don bull's still operating flights to russia. ah nadia keith oliver and said gig cavity love, have left moscow for belgrade. they've been living here for 4 weeks now. he's a photographer and she worked as a food designer in the advertising industry. when the russian economy collapsed because of sanctions and their work began to dry up, they decided to emigrate. their debit and credit cards no longer work
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abroad. in moscow, they emptied their bank accounts and exchanged their roubles for american dollars alone. below they are now making ends meet with this money. i have no even one minute of thinking. come back and rush i think as the way it's close, there's them will a dangerous situation and we don't have some future in our children. don't miss some future. they're the stalls in the city center are stocked up on russian merchandise. the couple from moscow was familiar with the nationalist symbolism from back home in belgrade to they're confronted with the face of commander in chief putin on t shirts. the military is glorified here. a lot of
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people here is just supporting russian government supporting war and thinking. the hutus doom great job or slowing people we don't think sold well do firms. and the reason we're here because we don't feel good in russia and we have to escape somewhere. we can say that ria is big lead, sees a cerebral malt, you can deflate what is, who am i feeling, but here because people are more friendly for russians m b, i can see where using these friendships for as long as proven remains in power. this couple has decided that they have to remain refugees or is begley c as the serve say, they're determined to start over here. many serbs feel so close to russia and such
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a deep rooted skepticism towards the west because of their own experiences of war. 23 years ago in spring 9099 nato bombers attack serbia. following the collapse of peace talks with the serbian government, the aerial bombing was intended to stop the displacement and the murder of kosovo, albanians by serbian troops in what was then the province of kosovo. alex, a good above it was just for when bombs fell on belgrade, the events have been seared into his memory. i have what pick your walk. this is what the cell is looked like, where we sheltered from the nato air raves health. formerly no one knew what to do, not either cuz we didn't know whether there would be an air strike or not him. if
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a bomb hits the building or will it collapse into the cell by them? oh god, how will we survive that? always? there were a lot of questions will talk what we just said from royal hide when you're quite nice when it's in a moment like that. what instinct triumphs village additional visions think rag when i went to college that the sellers were fooling sounds as i recall that every one who lived in the apartment lock was inside the neck as well as people from other blocks who didn't have sellers. locker. it was crowded mortal doing. people spent hours sitting on the floor of the poor formation. sofie massapequa sat on the door at 1st. alexa and his family fled to the cellar. every time the air raid siren sounded, days or weeks into the bombing campaign, or they just stayed put in their apartment. oh alex's parents still lived there. yeah. his father was in ukraine for work at the time of the bombing raids. the rest
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of the family in belgrade ray on this last lofton, it became clear to us that the bombing would go on for a long time to sell a polish. we couldn't spend a whole spring in the cellar, yummy. there were people who did that, but i had to try to lead a normal life of me when i came out with small children, there was no question of staying there in the cellar crockett pharmacy the nato bomb struck strategic military targets. but as the campaign went on, civilian infrastructure also entered the firing line. the chinese embassy in belgrade was hit on the night of may 7th, 1999, immediately followed by the hotel yugoslavia alex as family lived in a block right between these 2 buildings. so it's just around the corner. some of the nashik are windows, look out under the chinese embassy ali cause when it was hateful, i was home alone with my young children from on that. so we fled to our neighbors
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on 55, their apartment looks on to the hotels yugoslavia which was then struck by a bomb to buckled will soon. tucker, he had made the rectory molla bustle. michael, that's my ball on the same evening for fulfilling in our neighbor's apartment, we all sheltered under the dining table to shield ourselves from flying glass and like that we had no idea where to go. in the end, we just hate under the table. i've been to some will go to the 2nd, said that is my 1st memory booked up, but of the fear of detention the wrong spot. the sirens finicky born bas sienna eve, and if i remember rightly, as a powerful earthquake on a queuing all good omens, and although the shock waves shouted, the windows settles at his own immediacy by living, the smell of fire, the fire engines, civils. i wouldn't wish that on any one of them near the above me was an ostrich
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that a new brother portion of junior. after that night, they left serbia and joined alex, his father and ukraine. in safety, a soldier such and trumpeter there where bombs are now raining down to like a history is repeating itself. it's awful mouth. the nato intervention lasted 78 days. you can still see some signs of it in serbia to day. it's impossible to overlook the ruins of the former yugoslav defense ministry in belgrade. a 100 meters from alex as apartment behind hotel yugoslavia. the damage caused by the bomb strike is less obvious. with a truck, if you go up, there are 3 holes right through all 3 stories where the bombs dropped and then exploded. down below a $100.00 exposure to la resentment towards nato remained strong.
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it's regarded as the aggressor who was bombing campaign led to the loss of kosovo. kirkwood, mister turner coleman bumbled. what would you think of some one who's bombed jehovah abra dalbert ease but i don't think that it was a good move. missing the colloquy to his eyes, then echoed in organization that propagates freedom, democracy, and peace of democrat them nick over to an organization that is meant to protect people. ethnic can hardly justify its bombing of civilian areas, form but of the line im nikki civilly. but also the actual awfully. i'm dim nato in the way that the average ukranian condemns russia. he saw most lot at the general motors. no, not older. you just create hate that lasts much longer than it takes to rebuild the ruin. saw that i had a coastal tubule called or victim. the scars of war are
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also very visible on the headquarters of the serbian state broadcaster, journalist nino, but i you of it used to work here. nowadays, he's the chairman of u. n. s. the journalists association of serbia, which stands up for the rights of journalists. a plaque lists the names of 16 employees who died in the bombing raid 23 years ago. and the word, why ah, that this serbian t v did perhaps broadcast propaganda. but it also showed the victims of nato bombings, really dead civilians, whiskey, non military target, yet, based in the end, the t v building itself was a tamela. this practice has been employed in other international conflicts. r t. b stations are subjective to targeted attacks. the lesson,
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the world during the war is on serbian territory. russia was always a loyal ally, place, and so trust has grown in the country's big brother and speaking to r t afterwards. liliana and sabo, lego, which flicked through the foreign news channels on their television. oversized, from they see the russian news as the most reliable source of information. they learned russian at school. while the european union has banned the russian state broadcaster r t, formerly known as russia to day, you can still watch it in serbia and linda. sweet joins. ashley mobiles, abilene. ready laurie the so i still did the band if to be well informed, if you need to hear both sides, veronica, can even our children in the us can watch rush and channels like i teach, it's only western europe that's taking action that get off that. and i don't understand it, it dominey, but she asked the emily where the mouth is. they are investing in the equipment.
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western media show the civilian victims of the russian bombings. while russian tv shows those killed by ukrainian troops. it's a battle to win hearts and minds to create the dominant narrative about the war suitable. so oh, schools thought rhythm 20 years ago, i saw how the war in yugoslavia was being reported on from abroad. hilders to the overwhelming majority of t. v reports consisted of lies to be la to log tackle bezel channel mon food on the pictures were put in the wrong context. like it was unimaginable the tolbert . austin is obviously all yes, back then i completely lost my trust in western media on black moves up and stumble . maybe it's just my personal opinion. so city, but i trust russian media more loosely cuz they report more objectively on and honestly bush than it is with russia has already won over their hearts and
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minds and the advocates of free speech and serbia don't think outlying russian channels as the right solution. the journalist association don't want our tea band here. maybe they'll it. so it's a human right to have free media was at the v. a banning media infringes on human rights. let's get that either. dashing a ban is only appropriate it media support terrorism. the human side hatred or violate the constitutional problem shall go on in a case like that. ocean media can also be banned and democratic stable. conversely, my, the brand new image in public space, symbols of close ties between serbia and russia, are very prominent with a clear pro russia election campaign incumbent, serbian president alexander voucher which was reelected in april
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oh, yoke. validate is a political analyst and writer. he says that the only candidate who would have one more votes than the serbian president is vladimir putin, himself skepticism towards the e. u is greater than at any time since the breakup of yugoslavia. according to the latest polls, the majority of serbs no longer want to join in last than years. ah, we could see the glorification of vladimir putin glorification of everything the trasha does. ah, so i think that this is just the result of that. and this is a, and this makes a situation very difficult for serbian, or tory if this and for been president. whoops, each who, even if he would like to make a swift from the russia to the vest. it's going to be very difficult for him
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because she created those narratives and he created that public which is strongly supporting russia. so i think that is a something that could not be changed over night threat in meal, which has clearly been influenced by this climate of opinion by profession. he's a production manager and film and tv. but when he's between jobs, he works here to make ends meet. one look at his helmet, tells you what he feels for russia is the up with the 01. and i'll tell you straight or i'll what i support the right of the russian people to fight for their friends huddled up up up. i have no problem with telling you that up front. i honestly think that this is a battle between christ and the anti christ on your over your ukraine is the anti chrysler. and all the people say they're neo nazis got, you know, not thought their anti christ on to christian, even if they were cross sony. so sony or sony castillo antoine to christian. he
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says that he's come to this conclusion because he's seen a lot of videos of ukrainian atrocities on his phone. was a thought if you shoot some one lying the wounded on the ground in the leg and mistreat them, then you can't be a christian. when he got a christian would never do that. have you a christian would tie their legs together and take them prisoners when you, but they are mistreating people robbing the do they have you also seen the crimes committed by russians and ukraine? oh no, i haven't. no. okay. oh, nice um, won't you? but it's possible that they exist for the lawyer, but yes, and i've also been to war m, he said recently, well, i know that a few people on our side did terrible things without delay. kiddos in flood. in the wars during the break of yugoslavia in the 19 ninety's he volunteered to fight in bosnia and kosovo. the idea of uniting all serbs in one state was one which serves
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were willing to use force to implement. but the plan fail. the bosnian serbs live today within the bosnian state and kosovo, has declared independently empty dresses this set in values. the fact that russia has refused to recognise the independence of the break away province of kosovo. and his enthusiasm for russia is matched by his distaste for the west. beautiful also bore them. people speak about the rainbow brow with a z that about people having the right to live the way that they want. and then the russians are suddenly cast as villains that have to be expelled is they're thrown out of theaters, what radio stations and galleries he does and they're monuments are removed. what's that about? it's hypocritical. so the only thing that i feel i left is love for russia was instilled in him from an early age. when my go to for it with my mother and father
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brought me up to love russia, i would even as early, but on a healthy basis, not blindly. well, in you who, james, i love russian literature, art and russian hero is so the russians have died in battle for us serbs since the 19th century gal. as usual, they came to fight with the serbs in the liberation from a turkish rule over the civil and so on. hook up a customer of what i didn't have, none of them that god saved putin, then there will be peace on earth in between me. that's my opinion it may be, i'm also mistaken. louis watson, this is robert. 2 good, it's good singing a russian cossacks song, set at the neil bitch is driving home for the weekend to get ready for the game with his favorite soccer club, red star belgrade for that, put me through my attic was i'll go get my soccer things out. so i, tomorrow they had them i, what does this jersey mean to you?
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this, the jersey is like an oath for me and oh little, but i'd never put my club before. my name is a cool, the nation comes 1st to do and then the club. that's how it is for me. so men is not so serbia comes 1st. and then red star belgrade. no, no, no. russia is in 1st place, then serbia. and then red star belgrade to be a. that's the order of things for me. but it will always be like that in my house. that will do it. why? which? why is russia in 1st place? because russia is the mother to mike the eastern serbian city of zaya. chad has been home to andre. even av sense, the start of the war in ukraine. he fled here from levine in western ukraine. his grandma and his sister live in z. i a chad
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shortly before the russian invasion, the 30 year old was warned that ukrainian men would soon no longer be allowed to cross the border. he managed to leave ukraine and continues to work as a graphic designer, a job he can do from home. in just 11 weeks he's learned to speak serbian fluently and feels settled here. but um oh good though. um but quote a lot of people i meet here they are like this done for russia. they are in friendship with raja and so i know what is their historical background of his friendship. so, but i don't find it a problem for myself because i cannot tell with other people what they should law or that what they should. and they are free people here. they can, they can decide their friends no matter what. so it's not a problem for me. at all,
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a local journalist who has also the wife of on that he's sister, wrote an article about him fleeing to serbia. a val. nicholas de leon of ich, worked for the independent newspaper of dan us, which is critical of the government sheet after the story was published. things turned ugly. many all the family faced a barrage of insomnia lead him or lost her. t pothole effects. the social piece, when he said you support nato's and you are not see one person righty. oh, the 2nd even the teeth clinic. the article caused a storm on social media element. i and i context awful. martha could be out shortly after the article was published in donna's myself. my wife and andre were insulted and patting his people called us nazi's and also to sympathizes. chevy buckles from the salvation. his will not, and accused us of hushing up the rush of victims. and spreading misinformation
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about suppose it ukrainian wolves, mac advancing from oxy august, now with no shirt from the journalist to knows some of the comic writers personally . his neighbors are among them. mil ghost ayana, which is a sports teacher by training, but he was refused employment because he was told he had the wrong political views . he set up an office and his parents home and has been riding about local, social, and political topics for the last 4 years. this past a social media storm like the one unleashed by the story about andre is a new experience for him on the war. and ukraine has polarized people propaganda could not sunny. there is quite a bit of propaganda, such as in the magazine informa on the front page headline was ukraine attacks russia. your news tape is likely aloe or republican. i mean, i can't believe my eyes when i read them. no one did that. my article got the reaction that it did when i consider what kind of country i'm living in is not
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quite as him as you. aah! here in brussels, the russian friendly tendencies in serbia are being viewed with suspicion. serbia has been an official candidate for e u membership since 2012. this expert from one brussels think tank says you can't have it both ways. is quite clear that at one point in time, serbia has to decide either it's going to wholeheartedly commit itself to the european union accession and support the european union in all issues. particularly now with regard to the sanctions against russia, which serbia does not want to join air or it goes another way or and or so this is a, a clear decision that serbia has to take and obviously since it started that
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excessive negotiations, we expect them to to follow that logically, to its conclusion, ah . in april, the serbian president had a symbolic message for the country's european partners with great pomp and ceremony, he presented the militaries newly acquired and modernized equipment. it included lots of aviation hardware from russia, modernized, mig 29 jets from old russian and bell russian stalks as well as russian helicopters through the new air defense system comes from china. it's based on the russian as 300 system. it is more or less a copy,
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but cheaper. the u. s. had warned serbia against making the purchase. possibly good pressure from embassies from the west or the east doesn't interest me . america, americans, russians or europeans is all the rest don't matter to me. because while my decisions are made purely in the interests of the serbian republic, last or even if i'm alone in the world, much like what i been elected and over the next 5 years because i will take decision must have benefit the serbian people floors long live serbia, i think mm. security analyst, alexander, at each says that the government, symbolic gesture is a denial of political realities. serbia, is a member of nato, is partnership for peace program to the dismay of the majority of serbs. so name of those to conclude yesterday on has the 2 faces him of one is for
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a domestic audience. the 2nd, the media shows russian weapons and so that the pro russian elements which dominates public opinion, god gets the impression that the purchase of russian weapons is a priority for the serbian defense of as up. oh oh. but in reality, the majority of weapons come from western states and on nato oriented grandma's in m. nato. in the long term, the serbian defense industry is aiming to cooperate with the west it on with that all the components of serbian weapon systems come from the west virginia bowl. as it says, upolu, russia has long been the big brother who has stood by serbia. and here war criminals like former bosnian serb military leader, radco melodic are revered as heroes. since the invasion of ukraine, a new mural has been created, it's already been defaced and restored on a number of occasions.
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