on africa, what does it feel like for you now to touch down here for the 1st time german topler, africa, the continent next to europe. and it is of essence that we work instantly to have very good relations with all the states in africa. and also it's important that we develop our relations with all the democratic states on the globe. democracy, the rule of law questions that are important for us, not just something that is linked with the so called western countries. it's also very important if we look at all the countries in the world, so south africa, democracy synagogue need and this is why i visited them. and my, i think it is important that we continue to work together saying that the world has a good future. if we cooperate, if we understand that there will be a lot of very relevant states in the future in the fifty's of the century,

and that we should now make it feasible that there is a good cooperation that we can create a multi lateral. but now the how to the ukraine conflicts looms large here. this is europe being very much busy with itself. there's a war in europe. and at the same time, he and many countries, particularly those that you visited are set to feel the brunt of the effects. there's a looming hunger crisis. fuel sausages, fertilizer sought is, is what responsibility the germany feel to safe countries that have nothing to do with this conflict from the 1st russian invaded ukraine, started to bring to war against the neighbor country. and so it's important that we stick together to give the ukraine to chance to defend itself. it's integrity, it's serenity. this is also important for peace on the globe. we should agreed that

there should never again be successful, attempt to change board us with force. and this is what russia is trying to do, and this is why we cannot accept this. and this is why so many countries are supporting ukraine with financial means with weapons also. and we developed the sanctions regime against russia to convince the russian leadership that they should go away from the war that they should start negotiations with the ukraine. them that they withdraw the troops from ukraine territory where they invaded the country . and on the other hand, just opposite that, which is obvious, that a lot of countries are suffering from this war and from the russian aggression. and this is why we are very decided that we will help

the countries that are suffering. this is why we started to cooperate and fighting against all the consequences of having not enough food of supporting the countries with their own economic difficulties they have. and this is why we also speak about how we can work together in this very difficult crisis. but the best thing to do is ending the war. and if russia stop, it's aggression and be ready for a peace. this would be the best for the whole of what concrete assistance can countries like. for instance, a don tomorrow night or expect, we are working on supporting the board foot program and we are starting to get an initiative against the shorter shifts that are coming up now. and we will work together with the countries on the global level to get with the united nations.

and this is what we are trying to convince all other countries that have to means to do so to do together with us, your trade minister who topic was i spoke about us, you initiative to lower fuel prices worldwide. can you list that out of it? we will have a very difficult situation if we look at fuel prices. obviously this will be not feasible to subsidize them down and even not on the global level. but it is necessary to start to increase the supply with gas, the fuel of all the things to make it feasible for the countries to pay for the so how will you get fuel sources is off the table reduce prices? we are now discussing with all those countries that are exploring oil and gas and trying to convince them to increase the capacity. so this would be the board market

. now it's 3 months to the day today. that's rough, invaded ukraine. you one of the very few world leaders who actually still have a direct line who's letting me uprooted me. lensky, ukraine's president of the world economic forum spoke of putins intention to call maximum damage the maximum loss of life. many people wondering whether putin is lost touch with reality. what is your impression when you speak to him? this is a little aggression, a very brutal war, until it is really an imperialistic approach. she tries to conquer part of the territory of this neighbor country. and this is what people not be a movie, never, it will never accept. and this is why it is necessary to support the ukraine already mentioned. and that be on the other hand,

talk directly to put in saying him that he should stop the war. and that the activity he is starting bear, the war will never have a good outcome for his own country. we should not forget that the sanctions, for instance, are having a very heavy impact on the rational economy today. but also in the future, they will go back in their opportunities of economic development for decay. so they will suffer and they are suffering and forgetting out of this, you have to stop the war the united nation that for the 1st time, there's some 100000000 people fleeing conflict on the move around the close germany is negotiating also with many countries to take illegal support, illegal migration, migrants back. what will germany do? what will you do is g 7, presidency to open avenues for legal migration?

we have to be about the very i love the people that are in the very desperate situation that the fleeing from the places they lift the course of war because of a lot of other reasons. and so we have a global responsibility to support the refugees where they are. and this is what we never should forget that there is a responsibility not just starting, for instance, refugees are coming to the western countries and trying to live there. we also have to do a lot of places, but they live in most cases they're just flat to a neighbor country. and this neighbor country needs assistance for being able to cope with the situation. on the other hand, it just appears that there will be the need for the good voice of migration, for instance, to europe, and that we have to find a way to cooperate with the countries. but the people are looking for the chances

to start a better life. in european countries, in other countries of the world and doing this is then also an answer to fight against illegal migration. because this also needs cooperation between the countries making the feasible that people go back to the country of origin. the state cannot stay in the country, they wanted to go. i just want to talk about the south region because it's a great source of instability that leads to migration as well. how concerned are you that you might be supporting the wrong side by extending one of the mandates in molly also? cuz we are supporting the united nations with their activity in the hell and me and molly with this. so kaufman this mandate and this is something that is good for us to believe ration in the region. we are also state very clear that we will never accept a situation where there will be

a fight for us from soldiers against the people. so it's necessary that they are going back to the positive for democratic perspective. you speak of a special responsibility that you feel for contributing to the future being a multi polar world. how does germany's europe colonial past say the way you want to integrate particularly african countries in germany? but all countries with the colonial pos, have to be very honest in admitting that this pastor is part of the history and that they have responsibility for better relations with the countries in africa and doing this is also the basis for

a good relationship in the future. and my view is that the wide will have a lot of very influential countries in the next cape that are not just russia, china, united states, and europe, for instance. it will be also a lot of other countries. and this is one of the reasons why i, for instance, like indonesia and india, synagogue in south africa, or ogden find to participate in ard meeting in germany this year in the summer. because it's a starting point for understanding the board of something that we have responsibility together for. i'm just as the basis for a move to lateral. what, why are we not just see a lot of different events for countries, but countries to corporate for better? what role does africa play in this that you went up against china or russia here without africa?

a continent with a lot of countries and states that will have a future that is better them today that will have a lot of people living there. and so it is necessary to do all which is feasible to make it happen, that this will be a good future and cooperation because normally, corporation support in the development is the basis for what most supplies do on this trip. it was very good to discuss with the leaders and understanding that they have a very similar view to the world and that they are also showing the willingness of core corporation. and this is one of the outcomes of $53.00 countries. just finally, just a few kilometers from where we are sitting right now. nelson mandela was elected the 1st democratically elected president of south africa. if you could meet him

today, what would you tell him off? cuz it was really a very great leader. and working intensely for freedom and democracy and i think there is not the question i should have asked him. but the question all of us can really how did you make it to stay in that situation in the j a for that a long time and keeping to be a very democratic leader. it was really great. but when i saw tons of germany on his 1st trip to africa, thank you very much. thank you. ah, ah, with

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