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africa to continent next to europe. and it is of essence that we work intensely to have very good relations with all the states in africa. and also it is important that we develop our relations with all the democratic states on the globe. democracy, the rule of law questions that are important for us. i'm not just something that this linked with the so called western countries. it's also very important if we look at all the countries in the world, so south africa, democracy synagogue need and this is why i visited them. and my, i think it is important that we continue to work together saying that the world has a good future. if we cooperate, if we understand that there will be a lot of very relevant states in the future in the fifty's of the century, and that we should now make it feasible that there is

a good cooperation that we can create a multi lateral now the how to the ukraine, conflicts looms large here. this is europe being very much busy with itself. there's a war in europe. and at the same time he, in many countries, particularly those that you visited are set to feel the brunt of the effect. there is a looming hunger crisis. fuel sausages, fertilizer thought is, is what responsibility the germany feel to safe countries that have nothing to do with this conflict from the 1st russian invaded ukraine, started a brutal war against the neighbor country. and so it is important that we stick together to give the ukraine the chance to defend itself, its integrity, its serenity. and this is also important for peace on the globe. we should agreed that there should never again be successful. attempt to change board

us with force and this is what russia is trying to do. and this is why we cannot accept this. and this is why so many countries are supporting ukraine with financial means with weapons also. and we developed the sanctions regime against russia to convince the russian leadership that they should go away from the war that they should start negotiations with the agreement that they withdraw the troops from ukraine territory where they invaded the country. and on the other hand, to just oppositely, that was just obvious that a lot of countries are suffering from this war and from the russian aggression. and this is why we are very decided that we will have the countries that are suffering. this is why we started to cooperate and fighting

against all the consequences of having not enough foods of supporting the countries with their own economic difficulties they have. and this is why we also speak about how we can work together in this very difficult crisis. but the best thing to do is ending the war. and if russia stop, it's aggression and be ready for a peace. this would be the best for the whole go. what concrete assistance can countries like, for instance, a don somalia, night or expect? we are working on supporting the board foot program and we are starting to get an initiative against the shortages that are coming up now. and we will work together with the countries on the global level together with the united nations. and this is what we are trying to convince all other countries that have to means

to do so to, to, together with us, your trade minister topic was i spoke about us, you initiative to lower fuel prices worldwide. can you trust that out of it? we will have a very difficult situation if we look at fuel prices. obviously this will be not feasible to subsidize them down and even not on the global level. but it is necessary to start to increase the supply with gas, the fuel of all the things to make it feasible for the countries to pay for the book. so how will you get your sources of the table produce prices? we are now discussing with all this countries that are exploring oil and gas and trying to convince them to increase the capacity. so this would be the board market . now it's 3 months to the day today. that's rough, invaded ukraine. you,

one of the very few wild leaders who actually still have a direct line to me uprooted for me is lensky ukraine's president of the world economic forum spoke of futons intention to court maximum damage the maximum loss of life. many people wondering whether putin is lost touch with reality. what is your impression when you speak to them? this is a brutal aggression, a very brutal war, until it is really an imperialistic approach. she tries to conquer parts of the territory of this neighbor country. and this is what people not be a movie, never, it will never accept. and this is why it is necessary to support the ukraine. it's already mentioned. and that the, on the other hand, talk directly to protein, saying him that he should stop the war. and that the activity he is starting there,

the war will never have a good outcome for his own country. we should not forget that the sanctions, for instance, are having a very heavy impact on the russian economy today. but also in the future, they will go back in their paternity of economic development for the cape, so they are, will suffer and they are suffering. and for getting out of this, you have to stop the war. now the united nation, that's the 1st time there's some 100000000 people fleeing conflict. on the move around the close, germany is negotiating also with many countries to take illegal support, illegal migration, migrant. back of what we'll do, what will you do is g 7, presidency to open avenues for legal migration. we have to be a bad that i love the people that

are in the very desperate situation that are fleeing from the places they lift the course of war because of a lot of other reasons. and so we have a global responsibility to support the refugees where they are. and this is what we never should forget that there is a responsibility not just stopping, for instance, refugees are coming to the western countries and trying to live there. we also have to do a lot of places, but they live in most cases they're just flipped to a neighbor country. and this neighbor country needs assistance for being able to cope with the situation. on the other hand, it is obvious that there will be the need for the voice of migration, for instance, to europe, and that we have to find a way to cooperate with the countries. but the people are looking for the chance of told them to start a better life in european countries and then other countries of the world and doing

this is then also an answer to fight against illegal migration. because this also needs cooperation between the countries making the feasible that people go back to the country of origin. the state cannot stay in the country they wanted to go. i just want to talk about the south region because it's a great sort of instability that leads to migration as well. how concerned are you that you might be supporting the wrong side by extending one of the mandates in molly after the cuz we are supporting the united nations with their activity and so her and me and molly with this so called min mandate and this is something that it's good for us to believe in the region, but we also stayed very clear that we will never accept a situation where there will be

a site for the soldiers against the people. so it's necessary that they are going back to the positive democratic perspective. you speak of a special responsibility that you feel for contributing to the future being a multi polar world. how does germany's europe's colonial past shape the way you want to integrate particularly african countries in germany. but all countries with the colonial passed have to be very honest in admitting that this pastor is part of the history and that they have responsibility for better relations with the countries in africa and doing this is also the basis for a good relationship in the future. and my view is that the wide will have

a lot of very influential countries in the next case that are not just russia, china, united states, and europe, for instance. it will be also a lot of other countries. and this is one of the reasons why i, for instance, invited indonesia and india synagogue in south africa are fine to participate in ard meeting in germany this year in the summer. because its a starting point for understanding devoid of something that we have responsibility together for. and this is the basis for the move. the letter was where we not just see a lot of different adventure countries, but countries that corporate for better. what role does africa play? in this that you will up against china or russia here without president africa a continent with a lot of countries and states that will have her future. that is

better them today that will have a lot of people living there. and so it is necessary that we do all which is feasible to make it happen, that this would be a good future and cooperation. konami cooperation support in the development is the basis for this, for the most supplies on this trip. it was very good to discuss with the leaders and understanding that they have a very similar view to the world and that they are also showing the willingness of core cooperation. and this is one of the outcomes of $53.00 countries. and it's finally just a few kilometers from where we are sitting right now. nelson mandela was elected the 1st democratically elected president of south africa. if you could meet him today, what would you tell him or ask him?

he was really a very great leader until working intensely for freedom and democracy. and i think there is not a question i should have asked him. but the question all asked him really, how did you make it to stay that situation in the jail for that long time i'm keeping to be a very democratic leader. it was really a great ma'am. all i saw chance of germany on his 1st trip to africa. thank you very much. thank you. good shape or they are i'll bodies, wastewater treatment system, the kidneys, bladder and urinary tract, their task filtering and disposing like waste and talk saying what can we

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