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join us for exclusive master classes. well done. done to do a show starts june 1st on d, w. o stay informed to live and on demand content and language courses, video and audio. any time, anywhere that d w media center for she has been described as a symbol of the spirit of freedom and or not with many awards now, including the charlemagne price for fighting for democracy and human rights in her home country. see atlanta to her novice. kaya is the leader of the democratic

opposition of belarus, and she is here with us to day. hello. 2 years ago, you had the courage to stand up to the bill or was seen regime risking everything you life, you freedom, the custody for your children. what was the most painful moment during this time? oh, you know, there were a lot of painful moments but may be from me personally, the most playful moment was when i had to leave billows. when i was threatened and they had to choose her between children and freedom. and so as i have her tor children who are hard of hearing, i have to take care of them. so at that moment, oh, i chose to be with them. but i didn't give up my fight. and i for this 2 years, i'm fight and own side with all barrison and was actually you husband who was running for president in 2020. and only after he got arrested,

you decided that decided to step in as a candidate, a mother and a wife. not a politician. why did you decide to, to do that? in o? my husband was a you to blogger, and here, traveled in bill was from city to city, asking people how it is to live under dictatorship. and it inspired him to run for president because he really believed that everything should be changed, that people have to be cared about, not the government and the he was arrested immediately because he dared to challenge the regime. and my 1st step on that i decided to run instead of him was only for my husband. i had no interest in politics at all. but at that moment i had necessity to show him that what he was doing was important for me as well. but of course then when i saw how many people were involved in this fight, how are our, what nation walk up?

so of course i was change and together with my people, it was important for me personally, i understood that we are all responsible for the future of our country. our people realize that their feet is in their hand, hands and nobody would make changes for them. and your husband is still in jail, sentenced to 18 years. how is he doing? on the 29th of me, it will be exactly 2 years. ah, while he is in prison and one and half of or 4 of each, his band in sorts resell the conditions or for political prisoners, embarrass and prisons are awful. they much worse than for ordinary criminals. now are, were the relative women a chill in prisons and they beat you? people are morally and physical humiliated. they are tortured. our women are deprived of her hygenic, her issues, you know,

and ah, it's really torture to be there. and her own cushion cost regime is doing everything possible to show to other people don't raise up because you will have the same feed as our beloved. but despite of terror and repressions, our people don't give up. and her, my husband and marcia colliers, nick event, either political prisoners, the number of each year at the moment is 1200 ah, very strong day behind the bus. they believe in us. they believe in people who are on free them. they're fighting for them and it says in our, our obligation or to continue our fight or get this fight to its final and vian them because people, there are wheaton, they sacrificed with the freedom with their lives to give us opportunities to continue. so that's why our movement is a life, and of course our aim is to release or political prisoners stop repressions in our

country and hold new friends for elections because wilkerson called last elections in 2020 but with the help of russia and the violence he's managing to keep it and how do you speak about your husband and the whole situation with your children? actually, my children know that they're dead. it is in prison. but my younger daughter, she's 6 ah, i think that she doesn't know doesn't understand what prison is. ah, but still every night when i'm at home, she asks me when i'm going to see my dad him. and it's so painful. and i realized that there are thousands of children or wait and they parents home. there are thousands of polluted families. so i explained is i can, that you will see where the soon, you know, and this questions, this pain of my children also doesn't give me

a chance to stop and the same bout in all the rest of the people. and now you live in exile and as you just said, there are still so many political prisoners in belarus and sir, the countries authoritarian ruler, alexander le kush ankle, is still in a power. so tell us more about the situation. their presence are going on. they are continuing their at number. political prisoners is in prison every day, and lately awful law was adopted by illegitimate wickersham guy that people fought, attempted heir terrorism can be sentenced to death. so it's very important for us to tell the world what's going on in order to hold consistent policy to was bill arose and the european union has imposed one sanctions package after the other and are now looking for ways to introduce new measures to heard the regime not the ordinary people,

but so far it seems that the sanctions were not able to bring about a change in your country. so why what is needed or crystal for a sanction sir, is not a silver bullet. but sanctions deprive the regime of resources. these play tallies and her fright with corruption schemes. but i have to say that or i always hear that we impose swimming sanctions possible. they don't walk for sanctions have been imposed in 10 months after our allusion on the after a hijacking or friend there flight than after migration crisis. so real sanctions were imposed on lu when a threat appeared for european security. and the i have to say that after the war has died and the new question could became co aggressive this war and in your sanctions were imposed. sanctions started to walk only recently and her august august resume. i feel the sanctions that's why. oh gosh august,

kronos astro. are trying now to lift sanctions in change of blood mailing. actually, because migrations was blackmail. now, are they asked begin the bowden? no food security in the world in all. she was saying that lifting of sanctions will give possibility to toys or this for security. so ah, i have to say that you can't choose between our people's lives in our country and hunger. for example, i'm sure that her sons fight united europe recently and it's very important now to stay united and more talk. if sanctions, for example, at least at the moment it will earn cross out everything that has been that has been done before. so her, on my, every meeting, i'm asking to continue this in all strategy to was bill arose.

no, because so lifting of sanctions for example, or no may be some negotiations, the regime will print, i came to impunity and it will cause a greater problems. so i'm happy to see and to hear from our poke her allies, that no dialogue is impossible, nor dialogue is possible. herb with lucas shanker behind biller, since beck and this day that should be not between europe and the regime. dial a can, our country should be between regime and bill or some people and you just, her said that, that are right now all eyes are on russia. so brutal assault on ukraine and that overshadows everything. so how difficult is it for you to convince you of not to forget you cause christopher? ah, look a shank, i became quite aggressive. this one not bill arrows. i would you to divide. walker

shanker regime, who became collab rant in this war, and there were some people who are fightin or the side of ukrainians. i. i know that m some credit politicians understand how bela ross is important in this in jail political situation. because without freebie laross, there will be constant threat to ukraine to r y, a western neighbors. so it's a very important tool are also to give guarantees of 4 girls since, as well as security guarantees. and that russian troops who are still in our concert has to be, have to be withdrawn from bureaus as well. no. so we are support in ukraine. we are fighting against dictator and be in need. of course, a lot of attention. i understand that sir. attention result with refocused on ukraine and we fully understand this. we supported because we understand how

freedom of ukraine is important for burleson freedom as well as you once said, that the fate of ukraine is intertwined with the fate of the bill or with some people. i've told her i have to say that say a kremlin a doesn't recognize sir, not biller or snore. ukraine as separate nations are separate sir cancerous. so now we understand that without 3 korean resume will prevail in bills. and this why, when the war has started a hundreds of thousands of dollars since when to the strip to show they it issued to the war. according to paul's 86 percent of there were some people don't support the war. and a lot of for those and men went all ukraine to fight alongside ukrainians. so again, when your when excellent reviewers became quite kristen, this was, it was not fair towards some people, of course to be on the side of ukrainians. now we are here in the german city of

where you and 2 fellow a position leaders have been awarded with a charlemagne prize one of the most prestigious prices in the european union. how is this price going to help you cos? first of all, i have to say that this price is not for me or even for our $3.00 or it for all previous cents to generally still activist volunteers. and i think that's the sense deserve this price. because as said, sales century ago, shall the mind united europe incentive to end to be united europe as well. because despite off political argues between parties between congress, there was consolidated poor sits. what's bill that rose and it was there a strong european voice. so this, this price is the key to, to our prof people. and of course, it will help us to track more attention to our situation, to our country. that,

as you said, is overshadow to who beat by ukraine and to again and again explain that our fight is going on. that's repressions going on in our country. that there is no, that's it. and critic water will not have to give a pituitary for gotcha. got told, survive this time, just that as you can. thank you very much. ah, is the end of the pandemic in site? we show what it could look like. will return to normal. and we visit those who are finding it difficult to success in our weekly coping. 19 special

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