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ah, it was a national party to celebrate queen elizabeth, 7 decades on the throne last weekend when her majesty waved from the balcony of buckingham palace. the public erupted in cheers of admiration. cheers for the queen, but booze. for the prime minister, orest jots, he has made a career of surviving scandals, but his luck may be running out to night, the prime minister barely surviving a vote of no confidence from his own conservative lawmakers. we have seen this in british politics before wars. johnson has every reason now to be worried. i'm brit golf in berlin. this is the day ah, fly off the line of july of cover to cover up of changing leadership and integrity
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are absolutely central to the ministerial code. he's broken the steel coat. i think it's time to draw a line in the saddle that i overwhelmingly feel it is my job to get on and and, and it, i think is going to be cool. right? the president's so fall that anybody who wins by a beat i'm not enough to it doesn't last very much longer off. who should? oh, also coming up 78 years ago allied soldiers landed on the beaches of normandy to fight nazi germany to day get again there is war here in europe. the lessons of d day to night we ask, do they apply to the front lines in eastern ukraine? but we are again seeing death and destruction on the european continent. lucky of maybe 2000 kilometers from here. they to right now today are experiencing the
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same horse at the front citizen's experience in war 2, hands of the nazi invaders. ah, to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with a prime minister who may have run out of his political lives less than 3 years ago in one of the largest conservative landslide victories in decades. boris johnson became u. k. prime minister. the height of political power that. busy has since that time been punctuated time and time again with scandal and untruths. but none is presented an existential threat to power light the scandal known as party gate. late night parties in the prime minister's residence, lots of alcohol, and all in violation of pandemic lockdown rules at the time. boozing at the top, while people below were getting coven 19 and die and investigation found gross
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failures of leadership. concluding that the british people deserve more and have a right to ask more from their leader. apparently many in the conservative party agree to night conservative law makers through johnson a political life line. but he barely survived a vote of confidence from his own lo makers. nicholas, i can report as returning officer at 359 ballots were cast. no sport about us. that the vote in favor of having confidence embarrass. johnston's leader was 211 folks and a vote against was onboard and 48 folks. and therefore i cam announced parliamentary policy does have ah
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and our correspondence. charlotte chelsea bill. she is standing by live there. charl. let me just go to you right now. talk us through these numbers here. 211. yes, a 148. no. absolutely. those results just breaking. now. i apologize. fast of you can hear some background noise behind me at the moment. there are some protesters here. you might hear them throughout this. yes, the numbers, this was fairly pretty close. this will certainly be very bruising for the prime minister that had been so much talk ahead of this vote about the fact that even if he did survive, the question would be by what margin and what would that mean going forward? and i think we now have our answer that this could be a very damaging for him. it could mean that you have more questions from members of
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his own party. i think that's what these numbers certainly indicate that this is not going to go away. this a ponti gate scandal, the scandal that essentially is one of the key factors in triggering this very, this assertion that said, those who are making laws, the prime minister himself broke the laws around the coven restrictions. i that this will continue to dog him into the future. i think dan said decidedly means that there will be big questions going forward, although i think it really must be stated very clearly. that if there's one thing we know about the prime minister, he's very unlikely to resign, he will continue to go forwards. but with this boat hanging over his head, i mean, it does have a reputation of being able to go from one crisis to the next is seemingly made of teflon, but this definitely gets through the tough one. i mean, a 148 voting against them. maybe they would've needed
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a 181 for this no confidence vote to have gone through. i mean, this margin is, is really, is shocking in a way. are we looking at a bore is johnson prime minister after this announcement being mortally wounded in his political power thereof. indeed, even members of his own party, who suggested that just the very nature of holding a vote like this would result him in him being mortally wounded. they've referenced past precedence of other prime ministers who face these no confidence votes. he left the various reasons a short time off to the most recent example being the former prime minister, theresa may who won the confidence vote, then resigned within i left office within months. now you have this very place results for the prime minister. it could indeed really see that he is as you say,
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potentially, mortally wounded going forward. show chelsea pill in london. thank with me here. the big table is my colleague, alex forest. why the l it's, you've covered westminster for a long time. are we seeing here? we know that the public doesn't like worse jobs and they don't have confidence in him. is the conservative party, now, least the people in parliament are they finally catching up with public opinion they are, but perhaps not as much as many of the public would have height. with that result. 59 percent backing boys. johnson 41 percent. not backing bars. johnson, but a very painful result for parish johnson. certainly not what he wanted, not, not what he wanted to going forward. not what he wanted to go to. the public can say we can put this all behind us, all the punch gates scandal, the issues behind us. because my party has full confidence in me because it's very,
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very clear. his party does not have full confidence in him. 41 percent of his party voted against him to save it. how do you move forward? this is why he's a member of a country club. they've had a secret ballot whether or not he could remain in the country club. and a lot of people who voted to kick him out, but not enough. and he has to keep showing up every day to go swimming, played tennis and playoff. it's a how do you keep doing that? well as far as johnston, so he's very good at putting on a big smiley face, carrying on blustering through. they'd always said, even if he got one vote, one vote over the no confidence that he would stay. that would be enough. it would prove that he could put all this behind him, downing street if actually already come out and said this is a decisive victory. but we know it is absolutely not a decisive victory. and this is very difficult for the prime minister because you've got to remember across the world, there is this cost of living crisis. huge,
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very, very high inflation in the u. k. a big big problems that they've got to deal with some suit poverty. and also a steel crisis, and he has somehow got to galvanize his own party to say, i'm still the man to lead this country to take us forward. and you have to back me . he now knows that 41 percent of his own party do not back him much higher than they had fed and he hasn't finished breaks it either which he read you promised to do so you've got all of this unfinished business moving forward. it seems like if i'm understanding correctly, that in the most likely case scenario, we're going to have another 2 years of political stagnation. and we will have to wait for the election to come to sit here. this is that is likely. so the election is due to be held in 2024 boris johnson did change the rules so that there is no
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longer a fixed term a when the election has to be held. so he could actually call an election tomorrow if he wanted to. and there is the possibility that he could do that, that the people behind him say, just do it. however, i think with this result with knowing how much of the pump that how the public feels that they are all these poses sion that they do not like the prime minister that they do not trust him. i think that will be very foolhardy if they did go ahead and do it. but it is boris johnson and you can never rule anything out. so all things are possible. he is there safe for the time being within his own party that will state that he's not allowed. they're not allowed to quote another confidence voting him for the next 12 months. although they too could change the rules. anything is possible. what is it about boards? johnson, that is at issue here. is it the, the political issues his platform, or is it the person or is johnson?
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is it the, the man who went to the queen and lied to her about why he does all parliament, for example, for he always said he didn't. why? but it was certainly ruled that with him, paroling parliament at the time. but at that, that it was against the rules and they broke the law. shouldn't have done that. i think the thing that boris johnson and i have covered him, i did cover him and i was in the u. k. covering politics for a long time. and he was just a, an m p. and also when he was the mayor of london, it was a journalist before that, all that, but with 3 with people. i mean, it is extraordinary. or he certainly did too. and he, people liked him whether they voted labor, conservative, liberal democrat, they liked boris johnson. and that is how he got one. so got such a great majority in 2019. he went to parts of the u. k. the i've always voted for labor. the main opposition party and they voted for forest johnson. the problem is
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that his star is now falling and people are seeing through it. people very, very upset about these parties going on in downing street when they were abiding by rules. they couldn't say good bye to loved ones who were dying in hospital. they couldn't celebrate parties and all the rest of it. they know that he broke the rules and he has been fined for breaking the rules and yet still haven't really taken it that seriously. and just keep saying that's happened, let's move forward and the public con, yeah, he says, you know, it's not as bad as maybe the media or maybe you should be. but, you know, let's go back to this walk down time. you know, the u. k. one of the highest death rates from cove, it people couldn't say good bye to their loved ones. there was the walk down and we find out that in downing street, they're taking suitcases to the convenient store, filling it up with liquor, bringing it back and having a party or not. and then he went to parliament and said that he didn't know anything about it. and he was a pole, and then it turns out he was fined and there was so many parties,
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in fact that even more that could well be investigated. and it's still another investigation that's being done by committee. this isn't going away for him. you know, this is not going away, he can say, put it behind me, that people are not putting it behind them. and 41 percent of his own party have not put it behind them. he has now got to somehow galvanize and get them all together. say we've got to go forward, but it is going to be very, very difficult for him. yeah, he's definitely a mooted prime minister as of tonight. that's for sure. alex forest whiting is always alice. excellent. analysis, thank you. 78 years ago allied forces landed in normandy in nazi occupied france. d. they had begun and with it, a fateful turn in the course of the 2nd world war. today, those veterans who are still alive and able to travel, return to the beaches of normandy to pay tribute to those who paid the ultimate
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price to bring peace and freedom to this continent. but this year is no normal anniversary memories of one war or now when the shadows of a new war in ukraine president voted mere zalinski. today, he visited his own troops, who were holding off russian forces in the east of the country. now this is only the 2nd time that zalinski has been able been seen outside of the capital of key since the war began just a little over a 100 days ago. he toward several towns close to the front line in the don't bus region where intense battles are being fault. a village near the front line and done, but russian missile strike. an elderly woman was killed the latest victim in a war that has lasted over a 100 days. i've continued to think misery on the people of ukraine.
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cookie. i see how am i supposed to feel her might live peacefully normally what tweet was peaceful to nothing he, oh, well you're nothing to. and yet they bombed us darker burden in the battle, city of several zone that ukraine claims to be pushing back russian troops. and moscow has confirmed that yet another of his generals was killed during your visit to the front. ukraine's president vladimir lansky has also been to the frontlines and don buses a risky move. teresa morale of soldiers subjected to relentless rushes to re barrage the u. s. u k and germany have moved to counter russian fire power by pledging to st. ukraine rocket launchers with a range of up to 80 kilometers russians, foreign minister, double down on the criminal defiant response moment to the gym. i can only add the
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longer the range of weapons. yes. apply the further we will move the front line away from our territory bellini on which neo, nazis couldn't correct the russian federation in a war mark by russian setback and 50 ukraine resistance. it will be easy to back such words with action. enjoy them. you know, the big table is the foreign policy insecurity analyst, jessica berlin. she's a familiar face to our viewers. just good, just returned from a visit to ukraine. it's good to have you back. you were in the capitol key. you got back just before this latest these explosions, these attacks took place. so you got back before this new shock. what, what was it like in the capitol? because it seemed the war maybe was permanently somewhere else. well,
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that's perhaps an impression that's been had here in western europe, but for the citizens of ukraine, including of course, in the capital key, if that's not in the sense, there is no sense that the war is now far away and cannot reach the capital on the contrary, even on the very 1st day when i arrived, the receptionist at the hotel guided me to a room that was less attractive. but to the side. in case of an air strike that i would be better protected against flying glass from buildings opposite us. so on this very quotidian level, the people in the city of kids have been on alert and on guard this entire time, it's certainly not a time for complacency in i know you and i, we've talked before about the way europe has responded to the aggression coming from russia and to helping ukrainian forces. i mean, you've been critical of germany's role here and or the, the lack maybe some would say of
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a rolled and you tweet it here and you get this right. it germans, answer all of sholtes has become pollutants. most useful idiot. yes. the term useful idiots as coming from the soviet union was used by the soviets government intelligence agencies to refuse to somebody who was a sensibly, not an ally. but who was believing soviet propaganda. and actually advancing the soviet agenda through a nail, whom shall we say through proactive steps toward the soviet line. and in this way, unfortunately, the german governments and increasingly the french government have been acting in a way as the newest, useful idiots for vladimir putin. he has been using a very consistent messaging, knowing that he can threaten, he can bully, he can intimidate the voting publics of western democracies in order to try to
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hinder our democratically elected governments from supplying ukraine with the weapons they need to survive. but let's be very clear what the ukrainians are up against right now is the ultimate david and goliath battle that we have not seen the likes of which in europe since world war 2. and you mentioned our early on the show today is the 78th anniversary of the d day invasion. and what i saw in ukraine we truly echoed the courage of the allied soldiers during the day who came to liberate europe. but that, coupled with the courage of the everyday men and women of england, the citizens of london during the blitz, that kind of raw courage and stiff upper lip also amongst the populace. it's truly striking and it's really a moment where our government's in the west need to open their eyes and recognize putin for what he is 21st century. hitler with you this quote is didn't make it.
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and you also touch upon the, the sacrifices that were made during the blitz, but sacrifices that were made by all the countries that were so the troops, our troops to day. what we hear, the biggest connection that we hear here in germany. but western europe in north america, it's the price of gasoline, f. and if it goes too high, that it becomes politically untenable for the president, the chancellor, and that they have to take actions to relieve consumer pocket book pressure. there's no talk about sacrifice. no, there's no talk about principles. now, at that level, germany is the richest country in europe. we are the 4th largest economy in the world, and we are also the 4th largest weapons producer in the world. if this country rooted in the history of the war, we were freed, we have a democracy because the allied troops and so many members of resistance forces fought against our fascist government in the 900 thirty's and forty's. if we'd
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germany are not willing to put our money and our military capacity, where our morals extensively are, than we have truly betrayed everything, the federal republic stands for. and this is unfortunately, the lesson and the message that's being heard loud and clear and q. and by our allies across eastern and central europe, they have seen that germany is not the steadfast, strong, and deep pocket at ally that they thought just in the 1st 2 months of this war, the german government spent over 9000000000 euros on russian oil and gas that is a huge amount and the amount of money by and by a contrast that we've sent to ukraine and supports is simply dwarfed by that amount . it will economies talk about what would happen if, if the country were to go cold turkey and it comes to russian, oil and gas. there could, there would be an economic shock. it maybe could be worse than the crisis that we saw in the night. and some of these so immediately that bit,
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that possibility then is pushed to the side. pushed to the side. certainly not. but you mentioned the word sacrifice before this is what we're looking at. are we willing to take an economic shock? are we willing to face recession in order to protect freedom and democracy in the lives of millions of innocent people in ukraine? that's really the question, and we just came out of the coven crisis. well, we're still kind of in it. but our governments were able to mobilize incredible resources to help small businesses and struggling families survive through the crisis. certainly many people in businesses suffer it. we really took a hit as a, as a collective economy. but it was to save lives. it was to stop the spread of the disease . and now i fear we need to do it again. i know it's hard and it sounds scary, but this is where the moment that we face and the german government has not made clear to the german people. that this, it is,
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the stakes that we face. how much of this is, is trying to fight against political inertia in i'm talking about 12 years of leadership by angle america, who was a conservative, but also was considered, you know, the, the putin whisper for leaders like for walker bottom of, for example, that inertia from her policies, her obviously didn't, you know those policies in end overnight with this new government certainly not, is germany still struggling to maybe shed more than a decade of miracle was i fear that hallmark has mastery of the middle. gutted a great deal of our ability to have an open discourse about difficult topics in germany. this is, this is an unfortunate side effect. i have a lot of respect for many things that she did. but i find also that this, this lack of robust engagement and taking difficult decisions and difficult topics
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head on in our society has really suffered. and i get the sense also from chancellor show. it's that he very easily wanted to slide into his chancellor ship . he was vice chancellor under michael of course, finance minister. he's been a mayor of hamburg and i think on paper it made a lot of sense for him to become chancellor. he really enjoys himself in that role . but he was not expecting to have to suddenly become a chancellor of the largest power in europe during war time. and as we, as we seen, i mean, i was very willing to give him credits and benefit of the doubt at the beginning of this crisis. and during his titan vintage beats a speech i was, i was really actually excited and hopeful. i thought this was a new side of germany coming out. but unfortunately, since that time, we've been quite disappointed the ukrainian government has and said openly that they are no longer taking germany as its word because it doesn't follow with action
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. and we really need to see a new side of germany and a new side of this chancellor, if you crane is going to survive this fight. yeah, a go build points. i think a lot of members of the green party here in the country would agree with you and they would say, you know, reduce the irony that the, it's the greens who have been maybe on the right side of history earlier than the traditional big tent parties and what we'll see, what happens moving forward, the always going to get your insights, your opinions, jessica berlin, thank you. excellent. well the day is almost done, but the conversation if continues online, you'll find us on twitter either at the w news you can follow me on twitter at brent gov tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another dick will see you then.
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