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ah, today you k prime minister boys johnson met with his cabinet and he invited journalists to join him along with their cameras. an invitation to depict a leader leading political business as usual. but for boris johnson, it won't be business as usual, any more. and the whole world knows it. last night, he survived the confidence vote by his own conservatives, but barely 41 percent voted against him. it may have been a secret ballot, but the secret is out. now. i went off in berlin. this is the day ah, there will be, i think this is a very good result for the politics and for
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a for the countries 50 plus one is a majority, right? forest is much better than that. they have ignored the partition company and themselves and their family to forest thompson. i think it's of an extremely good, positive, conclusive, decisive result. i think there's no doubt at all that the vote yesterday represents a massive blow to the prime minister of one that is weakened significantly. it's symbolic that he think you carry out in the seems like a man who's committed to staying in office. so he really will have to be kicked out and demonstrate by his employees is not going to resign voluntarily. ah, also coming up in germany's former chance or under the miracle speaks out publicly for the 1st time since leaving office about her record on russia. on looking back today, it's clear we didn't really succeed in any of the cold war during all those kids who have not succeeded in creating
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a security architecture that could have prevented what is happening today. had to find on ah, to our viewers watching on tv us in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with boris johnson, the walking, but very wounded british prime minister. last night a majority of conservative lawmakers and a secret ballad vote said yes to having confidence in johnson as the government's leader. now that is the message that johnson in his office have repeated publicly ever since. but it ignores what is the most important message from last night's vote. 41 percent voted against johnson 41 percent of his own. conservatives said that they have no confidence in their prime minister. now passed prime minister, such as margaret thatcher and theresa may. they also survived confidence votes, but they one with larger margins. and yet, after those votes their days in power were numbered. will it be any different for
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boris johnson? and why should it be? has the time come for him to see the writing on the wall? if so, he was certainly reading from a very different script to day take unless i were able not to draw a line under the issues of puts i was took by a were able to get on to you by. well, i think the people in this country was like what we are doing to help them on to taking the country or whether that is what we're my 1st gets denied. so can help us understand what is going on inside number 10 downing street. perhaps also what is going on inside the mind of the prime minister jim gibbons joins me now. jim, his former host of d. w. 's, european journal jim, it's good to have you on the day to night. i understand that you not only every ported on the politician boys, johnson, but you also know him. the person is,
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is he the type of politician who behind closed doors is, is worried that this is the beginning of the end for him. i think he must know that because certainly that's the sort of reaction he's getting from his own party members and they look on his face. his expression says today and they did last night off of the vote, suggested he's well aware that he's his time is, is limited. and william hague a former leader of the conservative said it's a greater level of rejection than any previous tory leda has received. and yet can continue to lead. so in other words, it's widely believed that his time is very limited. now, he will have to go before the next election to buy legends coming up before the end of july. and they will show the way how the people think about maurice johnson. and he's not popular when he turned up at westminster abbey than the queens of 70 his anniversary, the jubilee service. he was booed by the crowd and that speaks volumes. i think,
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you know, ahead of yesterday's inner confidence vote. boys johnson told is impedes that he, as you know, we're talking, he would lead them to victory again in 2 weeks time. but, you know, we've got these by elections taking place. i want you to take a listen to what some voters have been saying in those constituencies about what they think. i don't think healthy in our prime minister. they much longer. and she regretful, but it's hip, someone else in the conservatism come forth into the path for better leisure than he is. i think, alive with that in the past, with the pandemic, i happen, he got us through that. and yeah, in my, in may, i made a mistake, we will make mistakes in life. i'll finish this thing. i do. any boy who savoy beyond the end of this year. i hope he doesn't. he doesn't deserve to be an office . regardless of you, you've policies his behavior alluding this enough to dispo from being the so jim,
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i'm wondering if these upcoming by elections, if they turn out to be a disaster for the conservatives, will it be boris johnson's fall? and will he be able to stay in power after their it will very much be far as johnson's fault. i think there's a little doubt about that. and he was always a good journalist together in brussels, both members of the press cool, attending the european commission. i went to every one every day i went, all of that press conference is lawrence johnson really didn't know if there was a story and one of the cows told him about it. he would always then go to one of the people from what he saw as his class of journalist, somebody of been too expensive schools and it asked them what had happened. it never ask somebody like needed to come and i went on and we cancel school. yeah, i mean, you know, he may think you're too common, but unlike boys johnson, you didn't get fired from your job as a journalist because you fabricated quotes. and that is, of course, the reality for him. and that brings me to the point that a majority of brits,
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who have been polled say that they don't trust war is johnson that they think they've even say they think he's a liar. now we've got a majority. conservative. all may cause you know 30. they're still willing though to give johnson the benefit of the doubt and to keep him in power. what does this say then about democracy in the u. k. in, should there be more outrage among voters? yes, that should. but democracy in britain has always been a bit bit strange and, and dealt with at arm's length almost then that the government has never really taken it seriously. i don't think they, they quite happy to just that people make a noise and they go away again and hope that that's going to happen. it's not going to happen this time borrows. johnson has gone a step too far. all of the parties that he held during the time of lockdown, there are many people who never got to see loved ones as they were dying because of lockdown. and they now know that while they were sitting back, why read about the peep, the people in the hospital, the people who was sick,
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or as johnson and his pals were drinking and having a good time? you say that he's gone too far this time, but he does have this incredible track record of god going from one crisis to the next and coming out each time smelling like a rose. yes, you can do that just so long, but eventually the ship sinks, you can go from reef to reef, but eventually em the whole get too big. and it just goes down underneath the ways . and he said that the last night he said the people in this room one the biggest electoral victory for the conservative for 40 years under my leadership. and if you don't believe that you can, okay, really that we can come back from that talk from a composition of when again, then you haven't looked at my record or the record of the party. the problem is that his record on the record of the party includes breaking the law and it's,
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there's a, there's only so much that the british public, a tory though they often are a prepaid would. um. yeah, or time will certainly tell jim gibbons, it's good to have you on the show to not be appreciate your insights. thank you. thanks very much brand. ah, we're now to russia's war in ukraine and what it means for 2 german chancellors to day current chance or olaf sholtes met with the leaders of the weeny a lot via and estonia. all 3 baltic countries have criticized germany for not doing enough to help ukraine. here is watch german. chancellor schultz said to day, germany is one of the main supporters of ukraine in terms of military and about, or about probably only the united states or only provide greater support than us, pun southfield on. germany really provides a lot of aid to ukraine. we provide you coin with large amounts of ammunition in front of it,
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also with the armed military vehicles and systems. and you thought about the more down scaling and the most more than that. how would sir sir will also be provided to ukraine? but while transfer schoultz has to answer for what his government does and doesn't do to help ukraine, what about former chancellor angle of miracle? did her policies enable russian aggression miracle lead germany for 16 years before stepping down after last year's election? she has not spoken publicly about russia and ukraine until tonight. the india, it's a fight as of evaluating the collapse of the soviet union will, that must of us thing in the 20th century is bother. and i told him that it was the best thing to happen in my life. it allowed me to enjoy freedom and do the things that make me happy, lay them off. whenever it was clear that there was a major disconnect there is. and this disconnect only grew over time my fault and
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figured on looking back to day. it's clear we didn't really succeed in any of the cold war during all those yes, exactly, of end them as martha hop of hotseat. so none as if emma abide on some good one, but in spite of all our good fortune with european unification in the countries of east central europe also joined, russia has always remained us who appoint i don't share putting fuel. that may be very clear, but we have not succeeded in creating a security architecture that could have prevented what is happening today at the finance. and we have to reflect on that. it's something that historians will do like on not one, but it is clear. and i want to restate this, ah, so that there isn't any misunderstanding the invasion of ukraine on february 24th is something that there is no justification for natalie. i had to go, or i want to pull in. the chief europe corresponded at politico matthew carnage.
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nick, he joins me from right here in berlin to night. matthew, it's good to see you again. ah, you've written in very clear and direct language pointing the finger at angle a miracle and accusing her as being one of prudence of useful idiots while she was in power. and she took questions to night for the 1st time. here. will her answers, will they satisfy her critics? i don't think so because i think what she was trying to do this evening was what some of us expected, which was to effectively defend her record, which is, which is her right, of course. but if you look back over the trajectory of the 15 plus years that she was cancer, you can see really pattern that i think someone in her position really should have recognized when it came to rush in when it came to vladimir putin. in particular,
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if you look at the invasion of georgia in august of 2008, for example, followed by the annexation of crimea in 2014 the war and don't boss, also 2014. what russia did in syria support and throughout all american response was to really seek out putin and to try and engage him through what she called dialogue. thinking that that would be the answer to this aggression. and i think in retrospect, that policy clearly didn't work and as miracles said today, ultimately will be historians who will decide whether her policies were the right ones or not. and i think that the from, from my point of view that, that, that the judgment is ours. from cliff, what if she were to say i was wrong about potent i should have presented every policy. i do carry responsibility here. what difference would that make for
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the current government? i think it would make a huge difference to be honest, and let's be clear, she didn't say that tonight. she said in fact, the opposite of that, she said, well, this was to sort of diplomacy and, and diplomacy. these are the sorts of things. one needs to do, i think if she were to come forward and say, i was wrong, we were wrong from the beginning it, let's not forget that in 2008, before the invasion of georgia that i mentioned in may of 2008 miracle lead a push to keep you crane and georgia out of nato. this was something that miracle really wanted to prevent and it was something that the united states of america at the time, under george w bush, the president hughes. not really thought well of in a large part of, of europe because of what happened in iraq. but, but he was pushing for nato enlargement to include ukraine. and ga miracle was very
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much against this and prevented it. and there are a lot of diplomats and other experts who look at that decision now and say, well, that really would have made a difference today. because if, if you crane, which was a different country at the time of it. but if they were under the nuclear umbrella, nato, this wouldn't have happened. so i think if she were to come forth today and said, look, this was a fail policy from the beginning. it would make a difference for the current government because it's important to remember, this wasn't just miracles policy, this was german policy and it wasn't controversial in germany. it was shared across the political landscape for the past 15 years. there is a reckoning if you will, with miracles, time in power. i mean, we're talking about almost 2 decades here. we're reporting on it. you're writing about it, but we still remain outliers. i think when we're talking about the entirety of, of,
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of the media. but especially here in germany will tonight's comment her breaking her silence if you will, do you think that that will maybe open up the reckoning more so here i think unfortunately in germany i don't, i don't think it will because i, i also feel that the media here, especially the public media, which is so influential in germany, was complicit in all of this because they bought this line basically, hook, line and sinker, as we say in the united states. and that this was the right policy that engaging booting was ultimately going to bring about that kind of results that we wanted a partnership that the west was seeking with him. so i don't think that her statements today are going to make any difference on, on that score. in fact, i think it's going to just harden this impression that this was the right policy at
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the time. it didn't work out, but you know, this is the, this was the, the sort of, these were the car to, we were dealt at the time and we played them as best we could. the chief europe corresponded at politico matthew carnage think. joining us tonight, interesting insights that we appreciate it. thank you. thank you. ah, 2 people died to day in a shooting at a supermarket here in germany. it happened near the city of frankfort. believe, say the gunman shot a woman at the supermarket before killing himself. now, shootings like this are rare here in germany where strict gun safety laws are in place. i don't have to tell you, it is a very different story in the united states where these kinds of shootings now happen every day to night. there is, however, cautious hope of new gun control legislation following the recent school massacre
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in you've all the texas speaking at the white house press briefing to day hollywood actor matthew mcconaughey who grew up in the vault, he called a law makers to put their differences aside and to take action. nicholas, we are in a window of opportunity right now that we have not been in before a window where seems like real change, real change can happen. the should not be a partisan issue. there is not a democratic or republican value in one single act of the shooters. it's not but people in power have failed act. so we're asking you and i'm asking you, will you please ask yourselves, handbell size, rise above kn, both side see beyond the political problem at hand and admit that we have a lie preservation problem on our hands. we start by making the loss of these lives. matter
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i want to good. now there are washington correspondents define simon c. his reported he was just in you've all the texas stefan. you've covered a lot of massive shootings in the u. s. each time we hear that something must be done today. marks 2 weeks since the, you've all the school massacre and meet, is it going to be different this time? and i'm wondering, you know, having a movie star standing on a, on the podium at the white house. i'm not so sure that that's going to move any of those senators in congress. yeah, and a, you're rightfully so doubtful about this, sir. no doubt this was a very emotional plea for mister mckinney are in coming in here in dc, and that's not normally estates av, you know, he's only talking to actors are receiving awards or what have you,
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but definitely not to the washington press corps. anyhow, you're, you're right, it says these hope these hope are even with politicians. here with the pundits, with the experts, with journalists who cover this a lot that there will be some progress made. and when i say some progress i made in baby steps, because everybody knows, despite his emotional please to day at the white house press briefing on there, it will not be radical reform or any time, any kind of real reform of the current gun law on the federal level, ah, that's not going to happen. i, i think i believe i'm afraid of. we know that president biden, he has filled out what he wants to see. as you said, the political reality probably will not allow that. so what are you hearing in terms of what is most likely also most likely is that
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the senators and this is all about the importance of the senate, right? so if senators, republicans and democrats can decide on something, and it looks like there's a negotiation team at the works every day for the last 2 days a week or so. um and they probably be able to get a compromise on in 10 incentivizing states to adopt or pass red flag loss. and let me read this is will make so i make no mistake also that for example, the potential waiting time period for 18 to 20 or 20 at one year olds will be increased before they can actually get the weapons they can buy it, but then they don't receive it, they have to wait a long or maybe investment in a more health, a mental health care and improvement in school safety. so that's all the nice stuff, but what's not on the table is for example, increasing the age of to buy air 15 style weapons or from 18 to
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21 year old. not going to happen probably ban on assault rifle, not happening. universal background checks also not in the books and restricting the magazines, you know, those high powered magazines who can 507060 bullets in there. um, that's also pretty much off the table, so i think that's what you have. so, so let me throw some, let me throw something at you here. are you coming from germany living in the united states? how does it strike you of that in the united states? you have to be $21.00 to buy a beer. but they, you've got senators who don't want you to have to be 21 to buy a weapon that was designed to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. yeah, yeah, of what can i say it is when you, if you look at it from the outside at this you are just baffled, i think and you shake your head and in disbelief, you know, you have to have
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a fishing license in most, all of the states all 50 states and you do not have to have a license to carry or purchase a gun. um, you can drive when you're 16, i'm here in europe 18 and her 2 years later you can walk around with a gun, open carry or without license. even now i'm a you can hide your gun in some states and don't even need a license for that. you know, it makes no sense for europeans or for probably other people around the world. it's not fathomable yet. we hear from a lot of you was in the u. s. too. they, they don't understand this either republican senators. they are insisting that any legislation include funding for increasing security at schools. i mean we're, we're looking at schools who ala gated communities, do us parents,
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do they want this? i don't know, i can't, i don't think so. i have talked to few parents who said, this is ridiculous, i don't need, i don't need to be my school where my kids go, my elementary school, my middle school, my school before knots. and on the other hand, they are people who are in support of this you say like you know what? and this is this old good. put more guns and in the good guys hands right. what a resource officer fully armed at every school, metal detectors, on the teachers, a fence around it, what have you, they are there is a segment of people in the united states who say, yeah, okay, if that's necessary, to protect my 2nd amendment rights, that anybody can you know, have the right, any american as the rights or bear arms, then so be it. but i would say that in the metropolitan or the urban areas, progressive democrat, the areas that there's
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a staunch opposition against this of course. yep. alright. are corresponded to fun . simons in washington up against understand the problem with guns and americans. stuff on think ah, it's a problem. we all know dozens of electronic devices, your smartphones each has its own charger. finding the right one when you've got a tangle of cables, as your battery runs empty, it's frustrating with the european union. it could have the solution. it says a common charger that can be used on all devices is just common sense. and it has agreed that a deal we'll come into force that will force companies to use the u. s. b c charger . regardless of what kind of gadget you won't, we understand apple has been pushing back against this saying it will stifle innovation. consumers say it can't come soon enough. the day is almost done,
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