this is data building news from berlin. you can find that much more on our website to be found at d. w dot com. ah, mending fences with ukraine leaders of france, germany, italy, and romania pay, a high stakes visit to keep greeted by air raid sirens. the toward the capital shattered suburb of air print, pledging to rebuild and reconstruct the war battered country. germany accused of dragging its feet now trying to shake off criticism that it over promises an under deliverers on military support. all topped off with symbolic support for a fast tract. you candidacy? i'm iraq. this is the day. ah, russian federation does not want peace. russia wants to live and nothing but russian aggression engaged to create its aggression against those europe. and ty,

europe in europe is by your side, it will remain so as long as necessary until victory. the most important message visit is that italy, once ukraine, in the european union, russia is trying to re drove orders in euro through force. this is unacceptable. top we are here together because we know it is out you with this visit, you paid to queue, fight our friends or isak, your started different european heavy weights on a mission, to repair ties and reassure ukraine of europe, solidarity and support. the leaders of the 3 largest economies met with ukrainian present vladimir zalinski. they were joined by president clowes, c honest from ukraine's neighbor romania,

increasingly concerned about your strategy or so that mister zalinski cost for maximum pressure on moscow. he frustrated with france and germany suggestions that ukraine may have to negotiate with russia to end the war. a high stakes visits high expectations, and high on symbolism. brush an aggression against a crane. it's a russian against a europe, entire european against entire united europe. it's an aggression against our shout values and a 4 hour response, which should be reminded today. ukrainian, sorry, frontline, are fighting against the russian stripes that we're not alone implementing as the 1st message i want to send alongside my counterpart. so up in europe is by your side, it will remain so as long as necessary until victory law, which will look like the return of peace and in a free and independent ukraine. we need to understand that there is no alternative

for to me. so i need to start looking for peace and which day when a different side and started filing me understood that russia is looking for more ways and means of intimidating in europe for grabbing more and more on the land. our land. while you're the, in a broad, you can say to day that the most important message of our visit is that italy won't ukraine in the european union. it wallkill. and it was ukraine's to have candidate status, and it will back this position in the next european council meeting, a little pale. we need to stop the russians from killing ukrainian censure from destroying our cities. there is a direct collateral with more heavy weaponry. we receive the faster we shall liberate our people. they're foster up. we shall liberate our lands or any broke with its own longstanding tradition industry. we are supplying weapons to ukraine

buffer, and we will continue to do so as long as ukraine needs our support for the attack on ukraine was a historical turning point in sight. russia is trying to redraw borders in europe through force. us to proceed. this is unacceptable. well, next of time, the russian federation does not want peace. russia wants only walk and nothing but rock. we are here together because we know it is our duty to act. it is our responsibility to keep this momentum and to help our ukraine of france for a new future vis national visit to you, paid to q by our friends, which is a historic event on the list. i thank you for these negotiations. we are ready to be reinforced to grant to strength and security in europe. thank you very much for

kind visits to get a feeling of how the visit by the leaders of france, italy, romania and jeremy has gone down. i'd like to welcome andre kirk off. he's the ukranian commentator and journalist and author of critically acclaimed novel sir. it's an honor to have you here on the show or your overall impressions that they rise to the occasion. i had actually this is it took place and especially i'm very happy that president craggy of body lawyer was there because italy was quite often mentioned recently. it's gone to with a lot of sympathizers of fortune and raw shame on the politicians. but general, i'm in the signal that the ukraine received today is very great, and it's very important, especially in the moment when ukrainians are told the number of ukrainian dead and

wounded soldiers is growing and growing quite critically. now we're 4 months into this war. what can you tell us about the lies behind the headlines? are you chronicling? what the people of ukraine are experiencing right now? i'm writing a lot of articles and essay same, and i don't write a new fiction. and i published several dozens of essays and articles and international press about what is happening every morning. actually i wake up and i call my friends in different towns and cities and talk on the messengers with them and exchange information and follow. and also some families. we show refugees abroad, especially in france. so of course, i mean, every right i think is now more involved in creating material which can be used in the hague. is what chrome or criminal courts. now you are ukranian your work and you write in your russian rather. and your work i understand

has been banned in russia. that is a lot to untangle the describe how you are experiencing this moment. well that it's not. and there's a question. of course, everything is russian is hated now, and i'm in the skate is quite easy to understand and to explain and justify because never ukrainian school expects that actually russians would come and would kill ukrainian civilian sen, blow up schools and museums and theaters, et cetera. so the ukraine will have to go through a lot of difficult phases after the end of the world, because ukraine was always a tolerant society. and this should be sort of worked on should be, i don't know. i mean, she's, we should get to read over it in the future, but at the moment, for as a for russian speaker, it's also quite to discomfort,

you know, sometimes when to speak russian in the street. although, i mean, i'm now in the west in ukraine and i am on the locals that a lot of people who speak russian or have gary or other dialect. so you're creating a language, but just generally it's a set page in your grade in history. what are your feelings if i may ask towards russia? well, i mean it's, it's a very foreign country to me. it's a country populated by people represent in the past. because i'm in the war which is waged against ukraine is the war in this type of 2nd world war with copied women of citizen destroying over the life and live live, so for ordinary ukrainians. so, i mean, if, if i think that officially more than 80 percent of russians support fortune and support this war in ukraine,

russia has become actually they come true of evil. and to have such a neighbor when it, in 10 or 20 the very dangerous, less russia changes. but i mean, the russians went so easily back to the soviet times to this substance or authoritarian regime. that it's very difficult for me to imagine how to get them from there, because i mean, all those who disagree with food, i mean they are leaving the country, increasing the number or percentage of those who support food. so you will have a civilized russians living in america, israel, germany, and completely out of civilized russians living in russia broke up. and of course, the history of the 2 countries so intertwined intimately, intertwined. of course, we don't know how this is going to end. what kind of view creed do you hope will

emerge at the end of this? well, 1st of all, the ukraine is a multi cultural state, multi cultural country, just like germany, also with many languages, spoken minority languages like crimea to us. i mean, you credit literature rating from my point of view, also in several languages and in russian to, by russian speaking ukrainians. so i hope actually these tolerance that existed before euro my done here and before this latest phase over the war will come back and, and people will somehow get back to normal life and to the normal perception over themselves. because i mean ukrainians are now political nation. so i'm in the national patriotism, one over ethnic patriotism. and it should be appreciated by everyone in ukraine.

and so can i get a very quick reaction from you to present to french president m m a call saying that well, we should allow mr. prudent to lose face? well, i was quite a ironical about some statements by monroe mcgraw because when i understand that the historical connections between france and russia are very strong, much stronger than connections between germany and russia and his desire to say for face of a person who is responsible for walk right in your grade, is somehow, i mean it's in a way i would say elegant in their own way. i mean he, he wants to be nice to a tyran, and he was asked to be nice to a tyran. i mean, i, i'm not prepared actually sort of to,

to go further in this conversation about being nice and saving face of putting them in russia didn't save its own face. i mean, the russian culture is destroyed by today's russian politics and, and russia will feel it for the kids to come on. jay kirk off ukrainian writer. so thank you very much for joining us. they go much to date, the german government has approved the delivery of around 350000000 years worth of weapons to ukraine. he has been making urgent calls for more weaponry like tanks and multiple rocket launch systems. but there have been accusations from the opposition here in berlin as well that jeremy has dragged its heels when it comes to supplying heavy ammunition all i've shown it's under pressure. wherever he goes, the german chancellor feels compelled to defend germany's record on military support for ukraine. as the solder thought from another vista,

germany is one of the main military supporters of ukraine. nobody delivers as much as us on the dodge understood as capero. few that are also doing a lot like the united states, but germany is one of the countries that is committing its capabilities on a very large scale from funky of a mobile cut mines edson we have provided large numbers of anti tank weapons, anti aircraft missiles, and ammunition in huge quantities ming but the weapons germany has so far provided a small fry compared to heavy weapon systems. other countries have already delivered, and that ukraine says it desperately needs in a historic vote at the end of april, the german parliament agreed to supply heavy weapons to ukraine. but so far, not a single piece of heavy artillery has reached ukraine from germany. but much has been promised part of shots pledge, a 7 german made how it said to thousands ukrainian soldiers currently being trained

her to use them at a german army base to how it says will likely be sent to ukraine at the end of june . the german chancellor also agreed to provide 50 gephardt or chita anti aircraft tanks, the 1st of which could be delivered in july. at the start of june, schultz announced that iris t surface to air missiles would also be ready for ukraine's use. these missiles are germany's most modern air defense system and would enable ukraine to defend an entire city from russian air attacks showed said, again, there is no clear deadline for when ukraine will receive them. on a recent visit to berlin, the head of ukraine's parliament welcomed sholtes announcement, but stressed that deliveries needed to arrive quickly with dozens of ukrainians dying every day. the country has no time to lose. earlier we spoke to german lawmaker or dice jackie's letter from the opposition cd. you which govern

germany for many years until last december. and he shared his perspective on the slow weapons deliveries from germany. we need the delivery of heavy weapons, not only 3 m l r s systems which is a very low number, only 7. how it says the german industry already has announced that they are able to deliver about $100.00 martin. i'm protected, we close and about 100 leopard tanks. this would be a real significant sign. instead of this, our government has only offered some weapons which were not ask like the part things. germany is the 4th strongest deliverer of armaments. it has the force, strongest armaments industry of the world. and this industry is ready to deliver, but they must not, they don't get the guarantee. they don't get the allowance the permission to deliver. so this is not part of the form of government. this is the responsibility

of the chancellor and we really support that. he has changed the issue, which the former government couldn't do because it was blocked by our coalition partner. but it doesn't help to have a blame and shame game. it is very helpful that this government has changed the form of position and my party is responsible. yes, that's true. but we were not focused on the bonus where we were focused on social welfare. we will focus on other items and it's also a lesson learned that all parties who have responsibility for our country should define security and not only with the social welfare and cohesion, but also with economy, competitiveness, domestic and foreign security. so we need a culture of security and this was neglected since 1919 since the unification. and this is also a very tremendous a very important lesson learned that we have to in western, our security independent from the fret analysis. on the meantime,

nato was vowing to bolster is forces along the lines as eastern borders in the face of russia's aggression. nato, defense ministers have been meeting in brussels as the alliance aims to reset its strategic vision. the meeting comes ahead of a summit later this month that we'll seek to set a new course for the coming years. a sticker to brussels, so terry shows is standing by for you. she has been covering this all important meeting, terry. so mr. stoughton berg outlining new challenges for nato. how does the alliance intend to respond? that's right, layla yen ste oldenburg, has repeatedly described the situation, living with russia's aggression as the new normal for nato. and says that the alliance has to adjust to this in ways that it didn't envision before. and that's why they're talking about a new model for allocating nato resources. and that's going to include putting more

troops in those eastern flank countries. also pre positioning equipment, pre positioning ammunition. now we've heard that perhaps all of the troops assigned to these countries won't be permanently on the ground there as the baltic states would like. but they will be training with local forces. they will be ready to integrate. should a territorial threat arise? and so this is what we're going to be hearing at this madrid, some at the end of the month, what other allies are willing to contribute to bolstering the eastern flank? interestingly, of course, the question is, are they able to, you know, a bolstering permanent presence at the, in their eastern flag. i mean, do they have enough troops to, to actually realized that objective u. s. defense secretary lloyd austin said that he was absolutely confident that the allies would come up with these forces to a scale them up in case of emergency to what he called a combat credible force. and that's a change layla because at the moment what has been in the eastern flank,

countries are what's called a trip wire force. and that is that you have enough troops there to, to slow down a potential invasion. and again, we're not saying that this is a very likely possibility, but you never know anymore. and so these tripwire forces would then provoke the sending of more troops. but, you know, nato really didn't have those ready. and so what the, the biggest change is going to be is that there are going to be thousands more troops assigned to the baltic states to romania, to hungary, to bulgaria. so that at, i mean a moment's notice may be a bit optimistic, but very quickly they would be able to move in and back up. those forces that are going to be staying there on the ground permanently. and terry, of the french president, in on my home has gone on the record, suggesting mr. zalinski might have to negotiate with russia is their backing for this among the transatlantic allies. give us a lay, the land statements like that. and ones that are similar ones that we've also heard

from from the germans chancellor, previously don't have, i would say universal support at nato headquarters because you have these countries like the baltic states who have the most to lose if, if you were to give ground to vladimir putin, if you were to say to vladimir zalinski, okay, now you need to give up these territories that have been taken by force. of course the eastern countries say we're, we could be next and they're not going to be supportive of that. there's a lot of outrage when there are statements like that at the same time. there are other countries that may be more, more amenable to, to talking about peace negotiations at this state a lot. depends on the context. layla a lot depends on what would be expected of ukrainian president vladimir zalinski. of course, everyone knows that this war will need to end in peace negotiations. but i, i would think that many countries are, are not presuming that ukraine should be looking that way. at this point because let them put in hasn't been willing to give up anything. now i want to get your

take on a sweden and finland session bid. where are we with that? we're stuck? absolutely stuck. there are negotiations going on with turkey, which is at this point, blocking the formal invitations to finland and sweden to join. but you know, it's not clear whether turkish president, but of type air to one intends to hold that over through the madrid summit. there had been hopes and expectations that nato would be able to formally open those an exception negotiations by the end of this month. and that has been just thrown into disarray now with this unexpected walking by turkey. i'm told i was told that this defense ministers meeting that talks are very intensive, and that it's possible that air to one will allow them to issue the invitation at the last minute there at madrid. because there, there has been some movement particularly by sweden, in changing some of the language in its asylum law in changing some of the language

in its terrorism regulations. and so there may be just a bit of a enough action to make air to one change. his mind once we actually get to the table in madrid, but it's definitely not clear yet, and nobody would put bets on that happening down to the wire just 2 weeks ago. terry schultz reporting from brussels. thank you for ukrainian refugees who ended up being cared for in german hospitals. there can be few more comforting things done being treated by a doctor who speaks their own language. for now ukrainian doctors are allowed to work in hospitals, but only under supervision. yes, laura is 2 years old. she has leukemia. her cancer therapy in ukraine was stopped by the war. she is now being treated at the university hospital and as an and fortunately dr. nina beth's go is here to the dinner, but at the doctor, beth sco speaks ukrainian because she fled the war herself and her sister. she was

a pediatrician and key of and is not only able to help the young patients here at the university clinic. however, she is also a valuable support for the parents. i. yes, her mother says it's very good because she can't understand or explain anything. and now it's better because she can talk to someone. well yes, this and i have someone to help me with translation and on talent, continental visits. okay. so the fact that there are 32 young cancer patients from ukraine being treated at the university hospital. dr. bets goes, presence has been extremely helpful. this is full and i meg ankles, elijah, it's a huge relief for us to have such a doctor. and perfect interpreter amongst us is lametre, and she is always ready to how it is. he had a moment for hoyt of to day, for example, not being able to communicate with her mother was a big problem. ha, community. mm hm. can mean yvette sco learned german at school. she is always open

to meeting the cancer patients, parents because they have lived through similar experiences. loretta, yet it's hardly fine, no longer have a normal life aunt and i lost my life to oh my, my have a different life now. a hobby. it's to, i'm on to the living here in s and dr. bets go can for now only work with patients under supervision. she still needs a few certificates to practice medicine in germany. oh, in this id shot. india's it was, it's a pity that she's only allowed to work under supervision at the moment, given the situation, find off the devils and if i go she can't make or implement her own decisions about i think it would not only be fair, but actually right or her to be able to work here as a fully licensed doctor and as soon as possible. and so i good. oh dr. bet sco has been living with friends in essence, but for her it was difficult just sitting around at home. it was

a stroke of luck that the university clinic started a program that enabled ukrainian refugees to work in different parts of the clinic for nina bed. sco, who has 26. it has also been a good opportunity to develop further as a medical professional. yes, this is helena. yes, it's important for my future. so i can also learn things. a song all i yes, i can learn how the system works on how everything works here. honest, it's very useful for me as the sun was 300. 0, even if nina i can't imagine a future of working in germany, she would like to return to key of as soon as possible. but for now, children like philomena are happy. she is here, a pediatrician from home. that was the day as ever the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter and d, w i handle is atlanta. iraq. thank you very much for spending this part of your day with us. i'll catch you tomorrow.

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