tv Stuck in Libya Deutsche Welle June 18, 2022 5:15pm-6:01pm CEST
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symbolic meaning to this beautiful painting? then perhaps we just don't understand today the search for answers starts july 7th on d, w. ah, i may. i listen of it though. i name is nobela. ha! had abdallah sat out already? i'm 20 ain't no chance, sir. lew, i've been working in the department for combating unauthorized migration and tripoli for 5 years. what i thought so, film z, we treat them like libyan citizens and deal with them fairly mama. we're all equal . dana's a ah, jim, mr. they get everything from us. say even cigarette is ha ha, no wish is denied them. really, we don't want them to feel like they are in
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a prison. like you're like with please we need freedom. we need freedom. does all you want? we need the most. got our friend here who got the offices. you see dad is no joy in it. there is no joy, international organization for regression. nick em us under there. don't last. if you want to go about our country. i just say i don't want to go back, go to my country, i guess suffered a lot. i don't want to go back why not with
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with since the fall of the gadhafi regime, internal conflicts and tribal divisions in libya have increased with hundreds of malicious fight for control over strategic raw materials. oil deposits, human trafficking, and migrant detention centers. who people come to libya from all over africa in search of work, but for now, this is the end of the line to be trapped in a spiral of abuse and violence. they live between detention centers and swamps.
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a 415 day of the 15 day escape from there. i continue my journey because i want to come to fall so that i can close the sea to the country. so on my way, also from that side from is then livia to, to fully we have been enough of the so they smuggler was think it has to do for it though i will say house to militia, political shewy near to been. it was, it is where i was now for 4 months and they asked me to fade $6000.00 us dollar. i told the lead on that, that, you know, i told the my friend kennedy will say that money because they are leaving. the count is also done because of the war. and then from there they took me to a farm where i was walking for down so that i can cover that one. that the neat and
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from there i skiff in january 20th. and i tried to call to see i was interested and i was talking to tag you're, it was a welcome. did they talk to you? and in fact, burns one of them. yes, they tortured us with hot glass. terrible that over here are the marks from it. but most people will soon believe they said if we didn't have the money, we'd have to work for them instead of them. but i worked there for 2 months until i was released yell of them, didn't anyone from any organizations go there with one of the one of them for they didn't have access, they just brought bags of food. and then they left like in the luncheon.
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that the year there was a hell we're living in one little more than a $6000.00 person photosynthesis. the nationalities from africa was no good in a foot, no enough water on or dessert they were thinking as to some way to work for the military's cleaning, the house, cleaning the car, the vehicles or anything that they said. because when you say no, they were fully in danger. so for you to be safe,
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you just agree because you have no choice unless you don't want to be a life. the, the harmon brigade which controls the to georgia region uses the camp as a military be the, the migrants are detained there along with the practice. but no one in the country dares to talk about do you want me just a little while though there are militia that have taken advantage of the instability for their own benefit and the process. they also claim to provide security for their only concern with to enrich themselves and pursue their personal
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goals. and they stole arbitrarily, arrested and kidnapped people. and it almost like him against the animal daughters. it all confused that they were not concerned with the migrant. the rather with the camp itself, someone was that they wanted to control it to put pressure on the ministry of defense in order to be recognized as brigades and get paid for instance of the mom . and there was of the lia, in this, with his, as they gave special names to their finding unit confusion. why and if some militia used to support money from international organizations. so they could buy even more weapons and ammunition we enough to accept the 2 bottom and most of the them had their
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weapons in the detention centers. so this caused huge problems for the migrants and refugees was, it was you can look at this bit, we are looking for this military without money. anything they're making us s s s, the, we just really nice and everything for them. that was the war. the time when the war or fat intra fully remember maybe like a free 2019. they will carry from milk about it. feel terrible. yes to do the walk . i remember the time when they took us to the dead body. deadwood in the vehicle. take them somewhere, you know,
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cleaning the blood in unblocked, you know, relative in april 2019, that a harman and several other militia fought to defend the un backed libyan government . the opposing them is general. come even hotter with his self proclaimed libby in national army. hafta who already controls the east of the country is advancing with his men on the libyan capital. in the holland. over the middle ground,
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the detention centers are on the front lines. they have become strategic targets, including to georgia. sometimes you get to come from europe. they came for time and when they came to the county. ready like that we need if one of the white glove is willing to talk to, i didn't get shot. the police will not allow course. when you talk to them later, after the asian go back, then they will is that putting you in danger by putting you in the solution to getting your, why are you talking with that kind of people? you know, we were very fine. whatever we asked them to grade us,
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no one cared about us. they said, this is another problem. this is another business. you will stay here. why hunker all over the shed it under so. so brooke is on the glasses of the windows of some people there have been injured it, they're running away. someone can run like told me to the stream with this and fell down. that is the many people of course i can understand horman of them, that a tang and everywhere. what was right, the big dim usa fred that we're going to in the buddies
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i ah, there was there the day after it was he brought everywhere. as before, one terrible, 4 in work seeing that he wouldn't take all of them out. and his mother please that we administrator in his judges. the place where we are negotiating, access, being allowed to access to do or you might need some work. we have to explain to what our holes or limitations and try to also negotiate with your communities for the release at a time. but this was a military us, right? i mean, it's real striking along
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with that a better over here. if the united nations mission and libya concluded that the incident in tissue rock overall crime, never had a fearful had i had been in a stomach. oh, because unarmed civilians were detained there for no reason. why matters in from aukland and acted as her monitor? she mar them at hand. who are you just asked sophie, the united nations in libya and the human rights council have always called for the closure of these centers. it ha, having america. 0, one of those been
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a week and like a days. so there's just here to come. when it come, they said that we will have a great you, but that has some people, good interview. so this people have to go because the most most vulnerable people. what model of you we had we sat one source, but not enough way. everybody up for 10 percent, you can percent and explain to this, you know, 600 persons that most of whom were junk mail so that you know, you're all extremely vulnerable. you are wholly in dangerous place. but she is shy in terms of seduction in evacuation route. we don't need people to take so we can do
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a live record. yeah. they did a high, you know, hussey on hold. i love it. if not, then i mean a lot of us so from there, listen about the death. and from there we started, but ourselves. we could have all the mileage to come. did you do? well, so when we come there to visit to enter. i started, they said us, you will enter them established in november 2018, to facilitate the evacuation of refugees to other countries. the gathering and departure facility or g d. f is run by the you and hcr, and the libyan ministry of the interior. funded mainly by european donors. it costs
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6000000 euros. the g d. f was quickly infiltrated by malicious, which were diverting some of the e u funds for their own purposes, paralyzed by corruption and a lack of funds. the center was closed in march 2020. since then, it's been used as a military base for training local militia. ah would let those you know what if wouldn't monsieur, those are what experience shows that the center was a total fiasco before the you and hcr abandoned it because it could no longer manage it. what the little little while you the in the lee it was over crowded with migrants from the abu salim, and so juror detention centers after they had been shell,
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talk to any kind of they tried to lower the migrants away from that with money to empty, the g d, f. melia how, but it's in the end the you and hcr declared itself no longer responsible for the in a really sad story. the, and the migrants were the victims in this earth. the higher found one wisely i believe the images yet is neither. listen it, us never get it of all that. so the brothers in urban city and they live us. what the country all the problem of refugees in leave, the earth is aboard the ship because even the dishes are
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pro my should do that. it will ever grant you. but you will need to set the last until you would be great when it will go to us to see our office. when would the min hell? did you say you are responsible enough to walk, to help yourself when you tried to make them understand you. they said everything which you need to call us pipelines will give you a number. but when you use it, you can find it look. so they tried every half of the thing they tried to make you away from them.
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and why they know why they that? yeah, when i came to you and hcr, i had skin diseases and rashes, and then when i went there to get medical treatment and then and i got what you said, you know, you then when i went to sign in as a visitor, they said one doctor was out and the other was busy i so i thought about that. that is why i yeah. and the staff member pushed me away and shouted, go away. slave word heard me deeply in the middle
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one. why do i live with thinking about what i've been registered with you and hcr for 4 years and i've never received anything from them. not even a tooth brush was no moral support either. it's not about money for me. it's about solid charity. even a kind word would have made me feel a little better or thought i got some comment of it. i live in the dump. now it's very dangerous. there are many diseases, but i can't read an apartment 450700 or 800 dinners. that i don't have that much money migrants can almost never rent an apartment and libya. southwell i do believe you would, you know, i didn't come to libya to stay here. i was persecuted and looked for international protection. for me, libya is just a transit country. what i want to continue to europe in search of freedom of justice and peace with our let me
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know what these are photos of patients we recently admitted to our to per kilos. this ward to they've all been tortured by criminals. most of them aren't even 18 yet and already have scars of burns and violence. do you think you know what they're say for now, for a few weeks or months? one as long as they're being treated by doctors without borders. but after that same question always arises, is what will happen to them to rule and it never stop. so there are always new ones coming. one is released from the clinic and the next ones come and never stops said you don't kill the transport of the skull. these are people
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who have been brought to libya from their home countries, for example, from somalia, money. and as soon as they arrive here, the smugglers demanded money. they say now you're going to pay and they demand astronomical sums. good, you can move on to law. we're talking $101520000.00 to buy their way out. and to make the families pay the refugees or tortured rates, humiliated and starved in these criminals make video and send them to the family from long in the photo here, you can still see the imprints of the pipe, what it was used to beat them across the tree ok, so each lip will happen in full if up it sounds says on he 16 years old will submit your pass if
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will to you never get used to these pictures again. the worst thing is they all show the same thing with the little and that the torture is systematic in the senator's disc is, but the refugees are really trapped on the water. he so what i'm of pigeon libya is a trap on ah, italy. yeah. now i think i'm kidding, september 2018. we were taken to this in town detention center. couple other companies that were more than 900 refugees. we came from different camps chatham gallon on your monitor.
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how are you going so far for halo? you know how to say, do you own, how do you, and some of us, you transferred to tripoli after that we were $325.00 inmates and totals from eritrea to dumb and somalia, a hampshire. so what, so then when somebody in santa ana does, in time detention center is located in the mountains about 200 kilometers from the capitol and is known for its disastrous sanitary conditions. ah, despite death and disease human, terry and edith rarely arrived here to
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night. in town, after arriving and was in sun, i'm good myself. we were locked up for 2 weeks and hardly given any water or food. it was terrible. how many didn't survive with the scan that got that or to watch and her mom and then got more lose. no, very busy. ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, monitor t one. helena is son hampton. just one of the hanger started on that 25 refugees died of tuberculosis in a fire 27 people died on. one of my friends was seriously injured. another suffocated little. it's altogether
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it brought us again, that's when we protested her up in the show as her chatting. you negligent a. we couldn't n o a u vol. easy. oh, oh, oh, be done with the media. nunez are on the island on an organization while you now the last, now it's we told you, and hcr and other organizations about all situations. and last for health, i thought they promised to give our case the highest priority priority to look. but nothing happened to good us black when i ground i took over just like i said to satellite so like my mizzi,
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some decided to dare to take the dangerous route across the sea. had joined others who had failed before that one wanted to try again. not bad, he said that he had un cut the lower the captain goes along so that i better. well i own a villa. we asked our families in the desperate to send us money for a car to take us to the coast of the computer. no, patrick, killer, new taxi, taxi. get on the driver, hit us in the trunk where we could hardly pre calendar, but i will have him do was i had had a crazy confess has but yet gotten i'm with the audible. you got to my case.
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the fellow that i went to globally, i bet like 2000 dinners. so i went to some way or at that just as a forest would have been there like a 20 days from the other set got toilet at the night. we are used to ride the robot, but we are 10440 person we are to spend one day in the water and the 2nd day we are sending the water. so there are no excuses for the scholarship is or everything's just with the phrase that the libyan guar. they've got it at us and then they turn
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us into 0. yeah. this was in the friday in the morning in 2017 august towards the end of the war. the unity government backed the al shade militia, which ultimately drove out the pro half to forces and took control of this strategically important area. to day it's fighters are part of the state in order to guarantee the country security the home of what was feel there was
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a look what what exactly was was yellow. oh, i don't really walla or was on it on our troops help the army and the security forces of media novel mcculloch's alumni called and we know the area and all the migration routes in garibaldi and to jura, was able to do a harley month plan of some money, but most of the residents here and from neighboring regions, cooperate with the traffic is all my without in london to live nurse itala for the 0 and the is going to town, no one will they get some money for it and warm the traffic is when the police or
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we come, when we try to arrest them, they're gone out of this house and the randomness forgot enough. the, the whole not look over the turkey has provided significant military aid to government forces to push back against half as offensive. oh, wow. today in the reconstruction phase, triple is most important partner is turkey. wow. oh, turkish interests are in libyan oil and gas, but air to wants influence in the region also strengthens his position in terms of controlling europe, southern borders. with
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since june 2018. the european union has been calling on libya to expand it. c. rescue zone. oh ah, in exchange for a pledge of 90000000 euros, the libyan coast guard must now control in area 10 times larger, extending up to 200 kilometer south the coast m. i've been totally full of i didn't return. sure you. that's about 200 people. maybe 230 or 240. so what we can think anyone else dope is open there, floating there at sea, yet with other ships have to take them now or inform the ministry of the interior. i know that we can't leave them alone. we are responsible for them. no more.
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ah ah ah ah, with video one being the whole, the i live upon daria. we've taken the refugees to the port fall under starting a 2nd rescue operation. i'm not sure that we have to few boats. we would need many more with the sky, making big promises above the u is not giving us enough. and now a dime of the i did my job. i always been more than the dian with some not gentlemen. we cooperated with
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italy according to the 20072008 agreement. they supplied us with 6 boats. he but they are not search and rescue buds called him. ah no, i wouldn't without a gully. international cooperation is essential. neutral to libya has been in crisis since the revolution nato has destroyed the entire libyan naval fleet. maybe we can cover the libyan search and rescue zone, but the europeans and 8 organizations must seriously participate in building a libyan naval fleet and coastal protection. be now, well sad. oh, what about the individual just how so? ah, the coast guards keep asking for financial support,
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but europe's answer is to give them more equipment ah. out of concern for its own borders. the u turns a blind eye to the numerous cases of corruption and violence carried out by the coast, guards and documented by the united nations, migrants have even been murdered. yet these crimes go unpunished in your bill. and if they have the philosophical seattle, but won't to convince the european union is trying to prevent these people from leaving libya and more importantly from coming to europe. wanted to do that. it denies them legal ways to leave ethics. and without such options, there is no escape for them from her chiral of violence and defense listening. da da, 0 of it into deny duty. mm
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hm. um. but they told me to call, we can't look away. we can't say it doesn't matter. this is happening on the other side of the mediterranean. we will need to know what is happening there. how have the system and the migration policies lead to the cycle of violence and exploitation of your own? libby is grinding these people down. i'm actually of why you in it's like i'm feeling results. you know, i've tried my best to reach my destiny, but i do not. i feel so like the depression is killing my dream. i'm at the point of giving up your thoughts. my, if i go back to my country, what will happen my plans when some day if i found a good 4 or 5 collect some money,
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