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the week of the february 24th, when russian forces began their invasion of you. great. as for the 2nd most important week, the we are in it right now. the future of ukraine, the future of the european union, the future of nato, a future with war or peace. to night, we ask, what's it going to me? i'm forgotten berlin. this is the day ah no rush at the wage. this war also against you rep against our european values. this is a decisive moment for the european union. yes, it's very important for whole ukrainian society for the army with pat. bring it today, be a shill, to be your opinion,

the protecting europe from the russian aggression to it's a matter of dignity it's, it's a matter of also coming up at tonight's january 6th hearings in washington. new evidence showing the day will tell the story of how the press a campaign also targeted. the federal agency charge with enforcement of a to our viewers watching on p. b. as in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome, we begin the day with what ukraine needs most right. president zalinski began this week proclaiming it to be historic historic because the european union could officially open its arms to you. great feeling hopes that one day in the ear remains far off for you crate. i want you to think in terms of years, perhaps decades. it is in the east, not the west, where the country thinks is its way ever deeper into the dawn. best. zalinski is calling on the west to speed up deliveries of weapons. russian forces are closing

in on the city limits. they've already captured almost all of the neighboring city of several don't ask and are now focusing more attacks on ukraine's 2nd largest in weeks. want you to take a listen to how president zalinski is describing what's going on on the front lines . madden by see if that. so the occupiers goal isn't, has any channels that group, they want to destroy the entire done bas, late them step by step way k meet. if they want to make every city look like um, are you call him yet? my completely destroy mitchell are asleep? that's why we're repeating. what's wrong. my 1st guess tonight is sounding the alarm warning that the war in ukraine could quickly escalate into a new clear conflict clear war plan or it's an expos ave us nuclear policy.

daniel ellsberg is also a legendary whistleblower who in 1971, among other things, the end of the vietnam war. mr. ellsberg, it's good to have you back on the program of what has happened since you and i spoke last, particularly, and immediate danger that the ukraine war could develop into a direct conflict between russia and the west possibilities very much their nuclear weapons are being used right now, in ukraine, they're being used by poker career war. if you wish to rec, lee conference in the war, not just as a proxy provider weapons in age as it's found, doing other matters. but if you wished horses in the air or on the ground where to confront him directly, he has chosen to remind us of his factory the way you use a gun. when you pointed somebody in a confrontation,

whether or not you pull the trigger, you're using the gun. you couldn't be making those kind of damn him unconditionally for doing this because we've been doing it for 70 years. we've been threatening a nuclear weapons often in this has stayed clear of an ultimate challenge of defeating the other unconventional weapons with the threat of using, using for weapons to release, continues at we avoid the direct confrontation which some people were asking for. so lensky was calling for a no fly zone in the air and probably on the ground as well. it's. i'm very happy that biting with the support of his nato allies has rejected those wanted. but the dangers for the world, including ukraine, of an actual direct shooting at each other by us, or nato in russian forces. don't want to see her try. let me just ask you, how are you? how are you so convinced that vladimir putin would move beyond,

threatening to use nuclear? but there's a big difference with nuclear weapons. i mean, you can say i have them, but if you don't use them, you know that the difference there is like night in day what make i just want to repeat a point that he is using them right now. and he's using them effectively to cation conventional regression. we would be in there with planes and drawings and probably troops, if he weren't using his weapons. but years, there's been many threats like and some of them were definitely bluffs both by russian and by the us. in retrospect, but some of them were if you might carry that out, doesn't have to be certain just the chance that you carry it out is very determined or rest, be taken into consideration to make that credit or that he does have no clear or has on his 9 am $7.00 to $9.00, is kind of missiles in color and in grad with

a when he says he does have them or it could still be in his own mind. but i was a participant in the cuban missile crisis at a high staff level. and i studied, you know, what he shared at that time, including me. and that was neither side. both sides were so worried, so anguished about that or aren't conflict at all. despite the fact that both of them, kennedy and khrushchev were threatening and preparing and deploying to do exactly that, i'm sure. and yet they came within a hair's breadth of growing up the world by or the deployment they were making by actions that were taken by subordinates was shooting down, shooting at american planes. are destroyers reporting what they thought were practiced steps moms honored on to russian summer with submarines? well, came very close firing a nuclear weapon. korean right now with the weapons we're getting it we. we've made

them promise not to use it on me or not under control zelinski. when we were misinterpreted by the other side. what would you miss as well? what would you recommend in that the european union, the united states, didn't ukraine in the u. s. a particular is sending lots of weapons sophisticated weapons now to ukraine. would you suggest that the void a nuclear accident or escalation? yes, it would be to make every effort endurance as quickly as it fit all sides will be prudent enough not to provoke the other into a nuclear war. but that means keeping the war going forever at great destruction you and have conason for 10 years with very destructive ukraine. that's the best case for continuing the war. but if tempted to breathe at stealing by doing something that will age closer to provoking the other to escalate and it

still further. for example, the russians can hit or even do it accidentally somehow. we might think they do it . we respond to that, they respond to it and saying that although this is clear as our aggression against iraq, which germany was watching this, i think to stay out of as i recall. but it's as aggressive of ending this by negotiation. how can you negotiate with an aggressor? the answer is, this war has the potential of growing up. most of humanity, i would say towards negotiations, which means concessions, which neither side wants to make concessions or not. you say, ultimately, let's hope mr. ellsbury that's hope that a peaceful solution can be reached at sooner rather than later. the the doomsday scenario, we hope. thank you. oh,

on the diplomatic front and crane has been seeking the status and leaders and speaking in brussels, the european commission president ursula in july, and she expressed her delight at today's decision. but she's dressed keep. still has a lot of work to up to day. there can be no better sign of hope for the citizens of ukraine mould of an georgia in these troubled times of the accession process. but i am convinced that they will all move as swiftly as possible and work as hard as possible to implement the necessary to days historic events wars from brussels. to see you, christine, i mean, we are looking at a decision that could change the map of dividends. is for you, chris. well, this historic decision is so important for ukraine. if you consider the fact that you, it been followed up again, 20121314 at absolutely no avail. and it's taken this invasion by

moscow to, to get that prosad just a few days off to have russia invaded its territory. this is a process getting candidate status that's taken other countries. yes. so to get it in, in, in man french troops fighting on the front lines. how they are desperately pleading for, for more weapons to be able to a, to, to come through. that's not been coming. this would be a huge morrow. boost is ukrainians, who've had to flee their country. now refugees and other countries right now looking at what's going on at home, that this will be a boost. it's some kind of a hope for the ukrainian people. it is also a what we're starting to appear in that unity, especially as they, as they have difficulty agreement sanctions. this was important to get everybody on board this particular decision and it sends a strong ukraine. of course, moscow expressed its displeasure at ukraine ever joining the european union. but this is the e. you standing up to the bully that it's russia and saying will pull ukraine, being a candidate is not the same as being a member of the you. it could be

a decade or more before ukraine ever dodge. join the you. what will change the while brain it now means that that journey has officially begun, right? that they are now if it an official process. i has now begun and of course, now it's not would be the full efficient talks, but loads of reform is needed before that can happen. it, of course, in the midst of a war, very much, very little sorry can, can happen, has begun it as you say, it will take years before ukraine can officially be given the status of, of an e u member state. but it now means that everything that's happening is working, let's not underestimate that, that boost, that it is, but not too much changes, but the hopes have been raised and there's something to work towards now. there are other countries handed it in there still way i'm talking about in particular the balkan countries of what were you leaders able to say to them to day to day? very, very disappointed. i mean, you have to think about a country like north macedonia, that has been given candidate status and,

and health status for about 17 years now in the message. make it easier for that effect session. these country say we've been waiting in the wings for a long time. they see how quickly things can happen as has happened in the case of ukraine. and wondering what has been the absolute frustration with how slow the process is taking for them. this was acknowledged me you needed. i went on to have another 3 hour discussion about the, the situation and the ways that they're going to have to put their heads together about and perhaps towards the end of the year. they might be some movement on that of your young christine mama with the least amount in brussels as always preferring thank you. it staged the congressional committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capital is going into overtime scheduling more public hearings for next month. the reason new batches of every on the hearing agenda to day, how the former president pressured the justice department to overturn the 2020 presidential election result. philos. so, so the common element of all of this was the president of expressing his

dissatisfaction that the justice department in his view had not done junctures other topics came up at different intervals. so at one point he had raised the question of have he raised, ah, requests that i meet with his campaign counsel, mister juliani are less bringing a washington burgess. well, quite a day there. what have we learned that from these here he's and me. what do we know now about trumps attempted, as they say qu, that we did not know before about what happened at this fateful day. that left several that we have to remember that people died that very day on january 6. so the committee really delivered in direct effort to overturn the 2020 election essentially really trying as you just said, to attempt a cool president from for example, i tried to play the election was corrupt. so we learned a lot about the pressure. donald trump put out there in this new knowledge in his

hasn't she her however, is hoping that the american people outside is liberal circles would watch and realized the extent of trumps. and to ignore the hearings by saying their illegitimate, illegitimate. and also by keeping as their attention their messaging on inflation and de la stays in the next week or weeks to come, has really been more and more compelling. so some are republicans, are really growing pack the outcome of the midterm elections in all of this looks in is like a legal team that is building a case. are we going the face criminal charges? yeah, i think pro and an international audience brand. it's very important to understand that the committee can the justice department to take action against those involved

and in the middle of all, that is definitely donald trump, so it will by the end of the debbie, debbie, up to atone again. the. the evidence is looking grim for trump and his inner circle . and we, we've been on the supreme court watch all this week were we were expecting a ruling on of to lift restrictions on carrying guns in the state of new york. i want you to take a listen to what the governor of new york had to say about that. this is satan is. and we should have the right of determination of what we want to do in terms of our gun laws in our state. the federal government will not have sweet thing, lot bonds, ability to do what we can and have laws to protect our citizens. because of what is going on the insanity of the gun culture that is now presentment. they're coming from the governor new york. it is a talk to me about the significance of this route here. first of all, it really a decision has far reaching implication and particularly in cities that has saw to

address gun crimes by putting restrictions on who can easier to access guns. so the new york law we are talking here about was basically intended to protect people in more densely populated areas of people will be allowed to, to basically a having a concealed weapon everywhere in public, even on times square in new york. yeah. so it's hard to imagine, but you're right, i mean, legally, it was as if i'm passing gun control measures after several recent horrific mass shootings. i mean, how big of a blow to gun control advocates from, says congress is looking to pass its 1st major gun restriction lawson's early, early 990 says we're celebrated also as a big win for them a thing going on. and now this, so this all is so significant brand. why? because this is a clear signal, wrong supporters sitting on the highest court in the land in the supreme court. and

even as we just saying, lawmakers attempt to make changes the court now books. so this is really a very, very significant ruling today. our washington bureau chief is hold on a very busy thursday for worse in as always. thank you. i'm you will find us on twitter either the w news, you can follow me on twitter at rent. gov tv and remember whatever happens between now and then to morrow is another day, we'll see you then i ah, with

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