ah, make up your own mind. ah w. made for mines. ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin. miss, i'll strike in ukraine's odessa regent. ukraine says at least 19 people are dead after russian aircraft fired missiles that hit an apartment building and other targets. the attack comes a day after russia abandons a black sea island that it sees early in the war. so coming up on the show on emergency for the world's oceans, delegates at

a un conference in portugal or calling for an international treaty to protect the protesters, say, world leaders aren't acting fast enough and owning up to germany's colonial past. berlin formerly recognizes certain african artifacts looted in the 19th century as property of nigeria. ah, hello, i'm claire richardson. welcome to the show. ukrainian officials a say 19 people are dead after russian missiles hit. the region of odessa missiles fired from russian aircraft hit an apartment building in the town of say, hey, you've got some 70 kilometers south west of odessa. rescuers have been searching for people buried in the rubble. the another missile hit a nearby recreation center. a russia has intensified strikes on ukraine in the last

2 weeks. it has also withdrawn from the strategically important snake island in the black sea, which could make it possible to restore access, see access to odessa sports and he, of course, bond and a man. well, chat is covering developments for us from odessa. earlier i asked her about this latest attack. well, claire does misses, fell on a residential area in the villages tanica and at least 20 people died during the shelling and 20 people are including 2 children over 30 people are injured also pregnant women. it was injured. we know at this stage a doctor, for example, one of the victims, one of the deceased is a 6 year old man. he was a or, you know, a, he was a man was his wife and child. none of them survived is just a show you the tall di swore is taking on and tire of families. first responders

have no indeed does search or in the rubble for survivors. they might still to see one person missing as we are talking. and of course, here in odessa are people are in shock, in fact, in the whole region to morrow. the 2nd of july has been declared the day of morning . it was terrible to hear of those casualties. i wanna ask you, at this stage in the war how well ukraine is able to defend the odessa region. well, you know, clarity of the south region is just by the black sea. in fact, the reason why you don't see to see where we're standing is that we, as journalists are not allowed to fail, made for the simple reason that the ukrainian all tore teeth are afraid that we might show something that would give away a strategic position. and that might a, you know, make it an easy target for a russian for the russian army that just shows you just hold dire. the situation is also the fact that a desa either by does see by the black sea when it makes it more vulnerable to me,

solid tax, because most miss eyes are fired by the black sea. does that, that there's also less time for b. bill wants the air read to lads, you know, resume does less time for people to take shelter simply because of me. size are closer. and speaking of the black sea, are russian troops have withdrawn from snake island. i strategic island located south of odessa. how do you think that is going to change the situation in the black sea? i'd new thing is a game changer, clay because the snake snake island was actually seized, captured by 2 russian war ships on the very onset of the war. and it became both a symbolic or ireland and a very strategic won strategic. why? well, because it's just off the coast here of odessa and he gives control to the entire maritime region. so the fact that ukrainian troops re captured this island is very

important. we know that on this island, they were also me sized launchers from russia. so at this is also very important and of course symbolic. because remember at the very beginning of the war there were, does border guards have told russian or russian sailors where to go. they did a want to surrender, and these made them a symbol of ukrainian resilience. so both the strategic and a symbolic victory here for ukraine and manuel shes in odessa. thank you so much for your reporting. let's go to portugal now where delegates gathered in the capital. there's been, have been wrapping up a un conference on protecting the world's oceans. people have also been protesting outside the venue, drawing attention to the threats faced by the world's marine ecosystems. at the opening of the conference, un secretary general, antonio quoterush declared an ocean emergency. some 7000 delegates, including heads of state scientists and geo,

have been taking part to assess progress and implementing a u. n. directive to protect marine life. so what exactly has that conference achieved to help answer that question and more i am joined in the studio. i didn't use environment reporter i g yet, engine i g. welcome. what games. if any, have been agreed to help protect the oceans of the world at this conference so far has been a flurry of voluntary action, military commitments, but really very little and way of kind of binding global treaties or anything. i mean, that was to be expected. it wasn't a surprise to anyone, the voluntary commitments in both countries from panama to pakistan, saying that they're going to protect more of their ocean, even declaring parts of their waters as protect areas which prohibit something that stop some type of fishing and so on. and then we got countries like australia reaffirming commitment to invest more money in protecting the great barrier reef the u. k. along with canada and the u. s. as a group of countries trying to really clump down on illegal and on report fishing.

but the kind of big picture thing, the thing the environmental groups and marine scientists have really been pushing for these kind of big treaties to protect the entire global oceans. and in particular to have 30 percent of it's kind of of the water surface protected by the 2030 that's not materialized yet. the negotiations about will be in august, most likely. ok, that's when you bring everyone to the table, get a much bigger picture project in place. i'm going to give us just a general sense of the specific kinds of threats that are facing our oceans. a lot of things. so i mean, the big one that's kind of most pressing will be climate change. the oceans are, i mean, last year even carbon pollution in the atmosphere routes such high levels. but the oceans burg records for being hot for being acidic. the sea level 3 to new heights, all of the things are making for fish population, for instance, pushing them out of the natural habitats, making them harder to live. but that comes on top of all these other kind of human cause influences of the human cause implant that is like over fishing and plastic

pollution that kind of destroy ecosystem than other ways. so the connected system, these things building on compounding one another. also today we know that french president and my con has addressed it. delegates at that conference. he's calling for curbs on deep sea mining. can you tell us more about that threat? yes, this is a bit of a tough one because with a lot of effort you can see a very clear one single direction in terms of human beings profiting and the planets offer kind of expense. and then the over the hut, humans later on in the form of climate change and so on. in the case of d, t mining is a bit more tricky in that one of the kind of key things are humanity would need to do to transition away from fossil fuels, which when you burn them, they're really staff of the heat, the planet would be to switch to renewable energy and electricity that powered by things like wind turbines and solar panels. now, the batteries needed to kind of store this engine helped deal with kind of variation. a lot of these require metal but are seemingly quite abundant in the

bottom the oceans. but we don't really know what it would do to the oceans into the ecosystem if we were to mind them. so i mean, a few countries to clean the pacific ocean violence days, a really calling for about on that practice until we know what's going on at least amount on the chronological voice to that is adding, i guess, to this movement away from seeing that as a viable solution and our environment reporter edge it, your and john, i really appreciate you coming into the studio with us. and this as scientist in portugal are sounding the alarm about the dwindling population of c. horses of the countries coast, a re population effort called project c. worse is now underway in hopes of halting the decline. the re a formosa lagoon and southeastern portugal used to have one of the largest populations of sea horses in the world. but these tiny creatures are disappearing. isla meal haven't seen any see horses here for a monster or rather years. think of nothing. and they used to be everywhere for the

sea level is rising. salt is coming into the fresh water lagoon. the sea horses are leaving, but that's not the only threat of weak motion subjects to go to. the main reason for the decline of the sea horse population is man who has destroyed their habitats . would all we've worked with the university of algarve research is the reasons for their dwindling numbers. it also breed, see horses in the lagoons at special protection zones until they are 2 years old. more than you might, the number of see horses in the new protection zones is much greater than outside of area. boats are not allowed in the protected areas, and fishing is prohibited yet. park rangers still find squid cages like this one. if you south of a could illegal fishing harms the see horses in it, i discover because they get stuck in the cage's grandmother and they just die their

business. because we found this one in just such a cage. franklin peddler by 2030 portugal plans to expand its protections to include not only the ria formosa lagoon but one 3rd of its marine territory. you are watching daily news a still to come on the show. why are we supposed to condemn issues which are the european issues? so please have somebody that has been this miss a 100 of our chief international editor speaks with pakistan's defiant, warmer leader. im ron con, about his position on rush as invasion of ukraine. of now though, at china as president, she jan pen as concluded a visit to hong kong to mark 25 years since the united kingdom handed over control of the territory during the visit. she praised the one country to systems policy, which has allowed hong kong to have its laws. he said the policy was a success and would remain in place. but that hong kong must respect chinese

leadership. she oversaw the swearing in of hong kong, new chief executive, john lea, a she, loyalist and former security chief who helped crack down on pro democracy protests . the beijing has been tightening its grip on the city. here's a look at how hong kong has changed since it british hand over. ah, hong kong enters a new era. more than a 150 years of british colonial rule came to an end at the stroke of midnight on july 1st 1997. the sun set on an empire and rose to a new age under chinese rule. it was a moment long in the making. in 1984 after years of talks, london and beijing signed a hand over agreement for hong kong. china agreed to rule the region for 50 years,

according to the principle of one country to systems. although part of china, it was to be granted greater autonomy and allowed to preserve the freedoms and rights awarded under british rule. while beijing honored this arrangement at 1st, it soon began chipping away at hong kong special status. first in 2003, when china tried to pass a security law to limit descent and protests. more than half a 1000000 people turned out to oppose it. forcing authorities to back down czar then in 2014, beijing proposed allowing hong kong or to vote for their chief executive unfinished, but only from a short list of approved candidates. while you young ga. gov, you can come g young in response, thousands marched to demand real democracy. when police tried to clear the streets, people started carrying umbrellas to use as shields against the pepper spray. the

pro democracy protests became known as the umbrella movement. in 2020 beijing imposed a sweeping security law curbing voting rights and limiting freedom of the press and free speech. hong kong has continued to hit the streets and protest, but in rapidly dwindling numbers. as hundreds of pro democracy activists, lawmakers and journalists were arrested ah, the british consulate, a rallying point for hong kong, ers who want china to keep its promises? 25 years after the hand over the new formula is one country, one system and their city. now, just like any other city, mainland china. oh, earlier i spoke to glacier kwan inter parliamentary alliances,

hong kong campaigns coordinator, who now lives in exile. i asked her what today's anniversary means for her was actually born one year before the 997 handover. so i grew up in hong kong when it was still free. the way that we were allowed to think we're allowed to talk. it's very different from what we're seeing right now in hong kong and the 25th anniversary. march. very disheartening depot all of us because it symbolized how much we have lost in the last 25 years. we have lost our freedom of speech and for him to conscience in a fetal expression and begun will not stop cracking down on us from watch on the has made very clear since he was elected in the sham election, basically selected by beijing saying that's going to impose a lot of more and more like harsh laws to try to tighten its control over hong kong again. and you're one of several high profile activists who have decided to leave hong kong k told me at what point you felt like you could no longer stay in 2020. i

was at the time preparing for a petition in the german parliament. and at that time, the national security, lois being announced, may king colluding with foreign forces, a legal meaning that the thing the act of just organizing a petition the german parliament is basically legal. so i know if i want to complete the whole thing that i initiated, i will have to leave hong kong and come back to jeremy to finish. my said he's under the same time. do that petition and the hearing that come that came after it . now china has of course, accused the pro democracy movement of causing violent social unrest. do you think that some of the tactics that have been used by protestors in 2019 things like storming the legislative council occupying universities? were they a mistake that then forced beijing to take a more hard line stance against the protests? i do not thing. you can say those things are a mistake. if you look back into like since 2014, we didn't get universal suffrage. and in 2016 when young my generation tried to enter the legislative council, we're being bought from bunting and elections,

and then we will, bard, apple, or disqualified out through some of our colleagues are being elected. and then we try to enter the system. we hi piece will protest and all of these things didn't work out. and a lot of the processor felt like that they have no way out, and that's why they resorted to the use of force and legislative council and all. and all of the things that you talked about actually are symbols, the symbols of the beijing regime. for example, legislative council were never actually fully democratic. so the process started last year in $2900.00 saw it as a representation of the and just isn't all of the it legitimacy that beijing had. and therefore they went to let go. of course, it's not, not be, it might not be the ideal solution. in any way, but a lot of the process i felt like they have no choice and being forced into doing that. now you describe what you expect to be a rather bleak future. are you optimistic that it will be possible to, in any way reverse the erosion of democratic freedoms in hong kong?

i don't think there is any way of turning back the clock because it had happened. and no matter what's to come, the last that a lot of hong kong or is have been suffering through will not be just simply taken away. i cannot be undone. i'm not entirely optimistic because any reasonable people person cannot be optimistic to be honest. it's quite graham, but the thing is we are doing the right thing. we are fighting for human rights and democracy, things that we should have. and therefore, we're simply doing the right thing and it's not up to if we're hopeful, we're just going to still do it anyways. thanks your call is a pleasure speaking with you. thanks again. so much for taking the time. thanks to pakistan now where former prime minister iran con, has been contributing to ongoing political instability by refusing to go quietly. instead, he claims to be the victim of a u. s. organized plot to remove him from power and his calling on supporters to help overthrow the new government. he'll be his chief international editor,

richard walker, had the chance to ask about that, as well as his controversial trip to russia in february, shortly before moscow invaded ukraine, mistaking to richard in just a moment. but 1st, here's an excerpt from that interview. on february the 22nd, the day before you arrived, there were already columns of russian tanks in done yet that was reported even by reuters. i'm sure your, your staff have access to reuters. and on the very evening when you touch down the very eve of the invasion, when you touch down, you said to one of the people greasing you what a time i have come so much excitement. you clearly knew that we were on the brink of a war when, on the eve, even when we heard that there was a jaws of something, we had a consultation. all of us sat together. oh, our foreign office. and they came to the conclusion that if we cancel at this time, this, we will put our relationship with russia and the gold storage and bearing and my in

the future where we need rush and we'd v need russian oil. and specifically the gas pipeline did, which has been on for 6 years, and we'd now cancel to visit the country as good as was going to lose a lot. so just like every one else, richard, let me just explain to you. what about kush view now india has usurped the rights of that. and i'm sorry, this hunger screen will just renewed it. it will be with pakistan and india. so it's very important and i don't know, but it's very important. and we're asking your question about russia here. in florida, and i don't want you to do is sort of what about as i am time to talking about kashmir. i would just knows one further question about about your visit to make sure we know because i want know i want to mission. i 1st want to move on and talk about, you know, i'm sorry, there is some kind of a question in the matter to us. so what us, you, while how about of the people are not wondering about our human rights of what

matters do us? why are we supposed to condemn issues, which are the european issue? so please have somebody on the mr. hon just it is a don't just put us in a sport that you know, you were, you have to because it's your issue. we have to take sides, allow us the luxury to stay neutral, so that we can look after own people as i, as sponsibility. i repeat again, all my 220000000 people of august on ok. so let's talk to the man who carry out that interview. richard walker is our chief international editor. he joins the now in the studio from war. i'm richard and run on sounding a quite defensive bear, as he justifies his stance on russia invasion of ukraine. but that is an argument that you do here in other parts of asia yet. yeah, you really do. and i mean the whole interview wasn't that animated i, i should stress that, but it was really a very enlightening, very interesting interview, i think. and that's right. i mean, these arguments were hearing from enron con,

there are arguments that you do here around asia, and i was just it in april. i was in india on a reporting trip for, for a project there and talking to a lot of people there. and you do here quite similar arguments, you get a, a kind of a blend of things you get some sort of watch about isn't what we just heard, that kind of plastic. what about just a lot of that focus is on. we, you know, the west is asking us to condemn the rushes war on ukraine. well, what about the iraq? well, what about the afghanistan? well, what about the intervention in libya? and it does just go to show how much credibility and kind of how much of its moral place in the world, the west is lost in the last 20 years through these military escapades that have so wrong. and so very different ways. so you partly have that you partly have people saying what don't force us to pick sides. your country is very, very wary of ending up, you know, the world slipping into a new cold war, which is obviously a very of live concern for many countries. and then finally the talking about the

countries like that they feel they cannot afford to take a moral stance. and this is what imre hun was saying here that pakistan he's saying his argument is that it depends and we will increasingly depend on russia for gas that it depends and will increasingly do so. depend on russia for we need those things at low prices. so it can't afford to go around kind of complain about russia . the trouble for the west is what that point is or the reason why gas and wheat prices and the other prices are so high is because of this war that russia has started. and that's the message that you see the g 7, other with western groupings really trying to get that message across the country like puck stun, richard, there's so much on pack there, but i do want to move on because you also spoke to him about pakistan's relationship to china and his reluctance to condemn beijing's treatment of the weaker muslim minority there on can you tell us how that went? yeah, i mean that's the kind of mirror really discussion is going on for longer. that comes with face questions about this in the past because of course the chinese

regional sion janet borders pakistan. it's home to this large mostly minority. and hon simply will not criticize china for its treatment of, of the week of minority in jin chang. and she really quite openly does indicate that well, you know, china is pouring money into pakistan through its bells and rows initiative. he's described china as a model for development in pakistan despite the very obvious concerns about about the totalitarian or 30 tarion and surveillance state drift that we see in china. so you really see this sort of is great caution about speaking openly about countries . the park is down the building up a dependency on whether its russia or china, richard walker, or chief international editor. and we will be playing that full interview with him at ron con, right here on d, w in about 2 hours time. so stay tuned for the full thing, i will. so on dw news, you tube her coming up, check it out there. richard walker,

thanks so much for coming to break that down for us. all for years at germany has struggled with its colonial history in africa. and one aspect of that is stolen cultural artifacts, which are now on display at several german museums, a collection known as the ben in bronze or a case in point. the british sold them throughout europe in the 19th century. now berlin, assigning a deal formally recognizing the pieces as property of nigeria. at the center of the colonialism debate in germany, the pending bruncess, in 1897 british forces looted thousands of the art treasures from the royal palace in been mutton de nigeria. many ended up in german museums. more than 400 or in the lynch humbled forum. a long battle over the looted art is now ending. both germany and nigeria have to carry nigeria, the rightful owner of the place and sculptures. the breakthrough means the objects

can return to their homeland. it's also a radical change in perspective for germany's museums thus benoit, it is i what does change of ownership means vidaurri it, it means that we western museums in the northern hemisphere and cannot simply determine the narrative of these beneath bronzes any longer. her gaze had been gone . oblong, samir attained, couldn't nigeria? we'll decide which artworks will return the government once to build a new museum to house the bronzes, partly financed by germany. so us missouri professionals. it is important for us to discuss on issues and areas of collaboration. so that would be able to benefit from this, you know, of toddler, patricia museums across europe are starting to opt for collaboration after years of confrontation. but the british museum has refused to give back. it's $900.00

bruncess. the issue has also become a bigger public debate in farms. in germany, negotiations are ongoing to keep at least some of the works in the country on permanent loan. the journeys update at this hour. don't forget if you want more news and analysis, you can find that on our website, w dot. we're also on social media, twitter and instagram at dw. i'm clear, richardson in berlin. thank you so much for watching. ah, with

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