tv Dirty Business Deutsche Welle July 8, 2022 8:15pm-9:01pm CEST
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a former japanese prime minister sion so ave has been assassinated. it was shot while giving a speech or the political campaign event. medics that he bled to death after sustaining wounds to his heart. the suspect a former member of japan's navy was arrested advocacy. but golf will have more world news at the top of the hour, coming up next here on the w doc film. looking at efforts to hold a swedish film accountable for shipping toxic waste to chip. i'm good with imagine how many portion of lunch are thrown out in the world climate change depending on the story. this is my plan, the way from just one week. how much was can really get
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if the 7th avenue, this is the cemetery thing . she's buried here. i believe her death was caused by all the arsenic and blood we have here day you'll see a bay. i still asked myself why i was never allowed to see her medical records. but again, why is that? he was alone. i wasn't even allowed to take a picture of her if she lost her hair due to the chemotherapy and was completely bald. i either buy a ship every time i wanted to take a photo of her. she said no mama,
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no. she didn't want to have her picture taken that way. medical abominable. on her final day, she said, come with me. what i said to her later darling medical. very rarely she asked me why we don't know. i said yes. and then i'll be sleeping next to you. she put her head on my shoulder and drew her last breath even that i looked it was, it was like when a baby says when alma for the 1st time in mamma, illegal smile. she breathed mamma, and at that moment i lost her you will never forget that. ready ah
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ah no from all 14 years ago, i began retracing the steps from my hometown in sweden's head to my native country, chile. and the desert town of our rica are to install the audio full cannot say 2 places that have been connected. my entire life wanted some unconnected by the mining company. alida will either mona had issued many people here a sig, and thousands initially. they say it's because of the ways it at the beginning of all funded there some to the waste that's left over after we finished mining for gold back at home after we've extracted the precious metals from the all the melamine beautiful. we've made this film
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on to tell that story for that visa. awesome. hm. mm hm. yeah. i'll add a yellow to this. i'm yesterday today. yes. that next me is now a lush warping, anton. my 1st question dear, how do you feel about what your country threatened for has brought here, j, u i you mean the toxic waste? since i, i think my country's responsible ones, i would and should do something to help all of you. i said, i'll go put a tennis either.
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ah, lou amy in the mid 19 eighties when chili was ruled by a military dictatorship, bullied and shipped nearly 20000 tons of toxic sludge to a rica in northern sheila to lyrica. ah ah ah, they in none here go halted, alhashan, eat quicksilver. hopefully this lodge contained high levels of arsenic luxury and lead shall landscape all logged prominent. t maloney toner for lead and paid that she lay in company pro mel $1000000.00 euros to dispose of the toxic waste. but only a fraction of the sludge was processed in promos, furnaces, preston, cliff leak, under box lumped. the rest was simply dumped into
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a pile on the outskirts of a rica and forgotten me, order, scalable studded, except from unless until to summer. and then it stopped. it forced us project in the years that followed by a densely populated neighbourhood emerged right next to it. off was her again, live in lee, that's ah at him mom that con, bullied and is a pillar of society. you might say that it helped sustain and provide a living to my community. but what does bullied and have to say about how swedish mining ways ended up on the other side of the world upon darcy than you would this afternoon. oh, you're simply not interested in a fair portrayal of this. is she or as bleeding as a company? yes, it was a must do, sir. is bailey?
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that's not true. we describe bullied in as an important company that has done a lot for the community here than i'm being docile already. and i'm trying a connection between the people who work for bullied and today, and the situation and oscar germany, if you get a 2nd, i don't think that's fair to the people who work for the company to day live. and that ought to be at the feel all working on this film. i eventually came into contact with one of bullied and former directors rove the sped buried. was one of those responsible for shipping that toxic sludge to a rica ah, wow. hm. we let us to wagner, he returned to over eager because he wanted to see with his own eyes the consequences of his decision. ah, i hear the music over there where it says casey stain.
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you who got her by my children used to play there in about a few of them. but where did you hear about the young man who died of a tumor in his head? he was also poisoned. no one ever told him what was going on. the doctors in santiago didn't say anything because they said it was just that the people here when uneasy g o v of your 10 year old children have to take these for 3 months and the doctor see that there insulin resistant me. i don't understand what's happening here. there are so many drugs in examination with you. i don't understand this. i
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ellis ross is roth. he doesn't speak spanish. laura, bye? beth? yes. well metre, then yes, this so me. i got, she had to have surgery. they. because of the toxic waste extra nipples grew on her year after mamma. that's why she had surgery did. if she got pregnant, all of these nipples would have produced milk. that's why they had to be removed. thank the c m at it. it isn't your fault. that i can't grandma no, i wouldn't say that. but i feel terribly sad about this bill and very, very angry. if i had made a different decision though,
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none of this material would ever have been sent here. no lantern. again and when the lino, but again when he came here to our account, when you eat, tommy came to my house and we talked for quite a while. they also explained the deal to us with delaware. who am i remember that he was very emotionally affected after visiting the area and talking to the young people there the after that experiences. and i think that he said the bulletin has to address the damage done to the people there. for me, it was a question of justice, you know, and human rights. if any, again, when it goes to what they might have with dcea demanded, it went through that ego, my sampler. and i found from all, rodrigo and i have known each other for 14 years, one of him, he's from a rica and is an anthropologist. madame somebody be true when i 1st met him,
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he had begun working with the people affected by the toxic waste from sweden. he dog. today he's probably the person who knows the most about the waste scandal, lina rica in chile, both that she lay and stayed, and promo that the company that received the ways men were convicted in court some to him and a small group of victims received compensation for the damage they suffered in elite and they a lot on the arbiter men bully them, but bullied and has never been taken to court. i thought a target ho, laden has avoided commenting on the a rica case whenever possible that a committee at each other they probably assumed the case has been forgotten about clamp
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we would welcome kimberly. hey, you are now, but i, i, i'd like to speak to eva wooten. yes . hey, you wanna my, my name is johan deborah from carroll law firm and stocker, yahoo understandings. who believed in this legal representative? yes. ringing and go on the um her i'm calling because of the exports of toxic mining waste to the midnight tonight is a chilling partition. i assume you're familiar with that though at the all to some of nathan, i've been looking into this case for a while. i it together with some colleagues from sweden, she lee and the u. s. and we've prepared a lawsuit her against bulletin about her mother just as amazon. so come, bowling ah,
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count can said malformations bone and joint pain. the waste that's believed in ship to chile in the 1980. this is dale, causing serious harm to day, so that a man julio eat 100 people from a poor community in the desert of northern chile have lost a claim against the swedish company. mm. with neutrons too, it feels good to see that there are people who are pursuing the matter in a way that we as a feel make is on able to do it. kenyatta if he had or tito from the court cases the result of 4 years of preparation which began after the release of
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a documentary film. as much as the report showed children played in the pile of toxic waste which was full of arsenic lead and mercury. the waste came from sweden and bullied, and none of this would have happened if the waste had stayed and swayed out to study. ah, we were struck by how symbolic how representative was of cases of this type. there are many, many situations like this around the world where typically multinational corporations based and developed countries do things overseas that they would never dream about doing in their own country. ah lewis
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gordon lewis. gordon is the founder of an american non profit organization backed by private donors that provides legal support to environmental cases around the world. he and a team, a swedish lawyers watched our film. yet he co. hi with us we be late. i wish for each one of you a room believe between the so add your it is very crucial for become involved in a name we have. okay. miss young. this was the case i dreamt told when i was in law school to represent the
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week against the mighty. this is step tried to let him push this in here aside. it's flattened out of the had a plot, this is you city o f, that a bullet place where bullied and waste was kept until 1998 when she lane authorities instructed promo to move the waist about a kilometer away. sedans coming, but for 14 years before that, the sludge was located next to a residential area, volta, exlon, methadone, and the liquor. if you will, on all the people he is say that by that time, toxic dust had spread across the entire area. say that if to not clear on how to speed, it's your middle that thanks to for how to food problem still
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existed. yes. all the live before we were talking about when the waste was moved in 1988 when it arrived here in 1995. before the waste is still here. it's unbelievable. when you watch your film, in fact, it's hard to grasp how close the hoses actually are not, and nobody there knew anything in follow up. nobody knew what it was or some loss of the wind blows from here. the stress over there and indiana say, and nobody knew what it was like them back then. there wasn't even any wolves when this will help later. mommy, the kids we used to come here to play mommy, that was easy to get inside. one of what he ended up, the children would play her. what were some of the things they would do specifically on why the m a on equal there were piles where kids would play in the didn't some of them build castles with the montana
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at thought on bomb. some x of jocilan is one of the many children who grew up in this neighbourhood. in the 1st time i met her, she was 10 years old, the home of t. o. i lived with her family when i was in a rica when that are more on on that you know, body i'm with and this class at 10 o'clock. so i watched her grow up on my visits to a rica, and soon she'll have a baby herself, scone child for bon mm. where it is just to live over there. this is simply of the amount of that because i'm pregnant. my baby is sharing my blood, or you're suffering from drama from that or, and arsenic, and i say me,
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arsenic as an the now you're going to have a new member of the family. i only wish that the baby is born healthy in. wow. if i figured that i'd assume what fidel city i knew that 8000 people in all were tested in 2010 out of 8000 samples against those 6600. were examined by lab and santiago means and arsenic was confirmed. some of them this will, so in the $6600.00 samples that are arsenic poisoning was confirmed and 12.9 percent of them which is approximately $800.00 persons simply yes, by a 100 load, a heap of we're already part of the lawsuit. if i just said minority at the local residence, 825 people out of a group of 15000,
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we are 18000 persona a possible to join a new group of claimants. we can add people who have suffered harm. but even though the case is already before the court and sweden, if you have arsenic levels of 30 or more, you can join the lawsuit level. lydia with this is a court case. we might win or we might lose just like in any lawsuit. okay, thank you. just think of how many thousands of tons of toxic waste with doors here . it was contaminated with 14 different heavy metals. we presented the case don't. belinda wouldn't have been dealing with a huge company. it has a great deal of power in europe, but then it will sierra them unless given the opportunity to super legion than a swedish court. that's already
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a success even without knowing what will come of it. is it good then we know oh i lost your lars. you're responsible for launching the biggest lawsuit we've ever had here. so era really? very common hell come home garage huh. thank you. so this is our home for 8 weeks. we'll perfect gordie. norquist each guy. yeah. can you watch out, dan polluters come after we're coming for you? ah, it'll be an old austin robin alden's, tom. i'm a lawyer representing bulletin in this case of a widow and i won't be the we know
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fairly well what they'll say. we've been exchanging arguments for several years now . it's been a long journey job. my name is las nielsen needle, head of communications at belinda boley. them so boldly the hard so bullied and has done nothing wrong here. it will, solicitor choi, be our standpoint, is that we have a responsibility to clarify what happened, support the cleans with back fact to the everything is on the table. oh, it is an emotional chase is an important case for many people including gleaton ball. so we have to get to the bottom of this one, almost to book it and get closer to the truth. lovable would, won't necessarily be the most spectacular truth for me, but it should be that they didn't know the full truth. there was a loaner then it must have been thus far left at a fresh trace. it's lock, the case is the 1st of its kind in sweden,
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both sides have submitted thousands of pages documenting the various investigations show and the evidence take these to these thing. mm ah, sees it, the hearing will begin in case t 1012 slash 13. between the adrica plaintiff and bullied and mineral able long bored us either both sides have brought in witnesses and scientists from all over the world explorer experts on chile and law. meteorologists toxicologist, as soil experts at chemists, semi metella, just politicians, and former employees and directors, or schafer. under meaning 7 holden, utter cassie, them until exam. but expanded plaintiffs from erico will present experts who will support the claim. that toxic levels of arsenic were found in the urine alteration, and that it originates from belinda and smell to sludge all fun. i am
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a professor at chapman university in california. and my expert opinion, the smelter sludge, is a clear and significant source of arsenic in the area to discounted as a source of arsenic and takes the tremendous stretch of imagination. when i 1st heard from one of the lawyers that the bullet and waste had 17 percent arsenic. i didn't believe it. i've never heard anything like that. a pile of waste that close to a city to with that high of arsenic concentration. in one moment, how did you tell your children that they're all there is going to die in? let me less on that all of your thought. he was my reason for everything even like
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that and they took, came from me a 2nd. will that e, this is kudos as e r little than darrow's good of him, and then we have plaintiffs here as well. i got the 2011 study sure that there are high levels of arsenic here. anyhow. organizing that, honeywell not to let you are gonna refer to this woman who lived in the house with the bars of them. she sold the house and died of cancer. danny te, conan lived next door. she had an aggressive cancer in her head and died to the new for you. he died. i'm e s, and the wife of her son had a baby who died. but her son doesn't want to talk to anyone about it or hear
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anything about the contamination. them i was hoping for this and another neighbor mighty subpoena had the stomach cancer. the woman who bought her house had a tumor on her face, put in the men across from her, also had cancer with me. and then there's so many cases income. yes, it seems like every one here and marty and muddy knew she had ovarian cancer, qualified by the time she died, the cancer had spread everywhere. then there's mrs. yaya who also died of cancer. it started in her years and spread and then there's mrs. teresa's husband, who also died of cancer, he had lung cancer and skin cancer gum from libya and then mottos. father wast, i thought i had no more melanie hurry, irv reger, i guess. what's the health situation like in other parts of attica? is he gets a home in the area near the disposal site is very striking, inaudible unit based, not only compared to the rest of america in the me, but to all of she little put him brutal cancer. when we started our research in
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$25.00 a, we didn't find higher rates, i can start in, but the will f. but to day, it are cases in almost every family that in the areas near the disposal site to little to like a rate of cancer is much, much higher than in the rest of kilo. definitely enough in the gutter. yolanda roberson santo lasagna. 3 of you dogs. who hung up for listening to him was very interesting. he paints a picture of what he sees as the situation in the region to us. but as so often, i don't believe his account holds up as evidence. it could be that in 1998, when people became aware that a big pile of potentially hazardous materials were stored there when they began to see it as the cause for all sorts of things for you, it became an explanation for all sorts of things. sca plasticity for gloria clogged
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ah offs on that astute mil america, a rica and bullied and are a world apart like 2 worlds that never meet the reality of what is happening on the other side of the world are you seems far, far away, long or less than under estes hey you um me fall i you had to live in. okay. my father worked the bullied me and visited chile when the sledge was being sold on a deal to have. i sure he died in 2008 another off, but often talked about how they, he and his bosses knew that the waste would not be handled, proclaimed chilly. but the case haunted him for the rest of his life. gone down to
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the body that my father spent his entire working life. oh then in his last years he was dragged into the sand. little at the ha. okay. the funds hold saddam submitted until you meet the animal to tollett. so even in the mid 19 eighties, there were people who doubted that the sludge would be handled safely and chilly. mccord ins. father, martin lindstrom, appears on rovers, fed buried photo from a rica. no. you amanda, that a papa. oh yes, that's my father. definitely. mm hm. men bulletins advocate say that fido laden's lawyers say that the company because of its visits to a rica who gray to precautions than they were required to. and that it was impossible to foresee that people would be exposed to the waste atman. this was
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gillis bonita, ralph holland. yes, you get him to disarm all sorts of hindsight and foresight are 2 different things. and non hindsight, there is an elegant english phrase. he a hindsight bias sham which describes a psychological phenomenon where we as human beings, when we think about an event in hindsight from will tend to believe that it was much more predictable than it really was. more than a credit of vol threw up money for left or cash intense people in this town won't even dare to think that believe may have done anything wrong. they're the only thing my father sent to that effect was. we understood that they wouldn't take care of the material pro play. he never said i understood it. ya, but i don't know what he meant by. we may be only live out that way. or maybe there was some kind of consensus among the staff that they'd never have dad speak about it openly. so i'm like bowman say, i don't know if
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dish almighty linds martin lindstrom passed away several years ago. oh and anna caught in can't find anything in her father's note books that refers to the regrets her father expressed pins. there's nothing that could be used as evidence in the courtroom ah, conversation and you see. so 12 get out with you. i just want to act that. yeah, i want justice to be done here, tara beaver. my. my son was killed. kin, my boss, we who killed your son. why bo, lead a and my dad, the senate,
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the toxic material here. and he knew exactly what they were doing. arks are on the we have no further questions. truly, knowledge fill them out, lessons on your side, please. no. your honor lights locked up out of the opposing party has no questions the hearing us over now before. so to type in stock form one other or we feel hire for almost will to mother the pc out did. and i dare say that this was bullied as plan talk aren't all this is what happened was when big multinational corporations are accused of causing damage with their activity. incident azusa huge sums are spent on experts and consulting muscle from recall to produce hundreds of pages worth of reports of the theme, all with the goal of obscuring your what is evident, i believe, and hope that this court has the ability info to, to see through all that all awesome. thank you from or got c, e m?
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ah bully them in that of manish name all it into liter. almost kaba, bullied and claims that the plaintiffs suffered no damages. and if they did it, it's not the result of their waste. bullied in doesn't even describe it as waste. boom. did salad material of negative value that the rest of the out a negative to bad. ah. put him in that. ok. so they also say that is bleeding and as the erico site claims them, it has contributed to a humana tearing catastrophe. then this was something like company could never have predicted say, ah,
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are you? good thanks. a bit nervous, nervous that it? yes. oh and you forced off of this? yes, emotional for 11 years of work boils down to a single minute. don't let any an from alga ah no. the metal is are you ready to talk her from okay, here we go. okay. the verdict goes, looked at foot ma'am. mm hm. okay. oh i, i need to talk to the people here. what's the verdict at
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bowie and what, what in what ah ha, the interest roosevelt. pacifica. how that course were very disappointed. we hoped for a different outcome longer more. there are many, many people in the city of attica, or who stayed up all night there night. it's not fair. it's not fair. you know, the who and our lives, and now they're not even taking responsibility for it.
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i have no idea what we can do. now. this proves nothing. well that it proves is that money talks and they have plenty of that go on with billable epic, the directly in the grammar. we're sorry we raised your hopes, right? but i also want to ask for your forgiveness. i'll be more than you don't have to do that. rodrigo. were very grateful for all the work you have done. yeah, i know you thought that she would win so bizarre. we all thought we would win. but how do i, i'm in shock. yeah, i can hardly knew. we didn't stand a challenge. so let me know.
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life was a goals bolton's role or during this preceding bulletins rule and the material from bronze care when an organ had been thoroughly scrutinized. and then on the conclusion is unequivocal. i call on the residents of erica, we want to try to accept the results of the investigation brochure and this trial. in fact, to say, she left the team threat hardballs but the, my, the chileans, the swedish court decided to apply chilly and law. so the statute of limitations hadn't expired. when i bought it bought the verdict, states that there is no proven connection between bullied and toxic waste and the arsenic are found in people's urine and sierra despite the fact that the court says bullied and acted negligently and it states that this is not relevant. because a level of 30 micro grams of arsenic per late of urine does not represent tom.
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instead the court said a new level for damages at $100.00 micrograms, which is what bullied and had asked for delta o. and we caught them up on an a $2.00 to $3.00 into mailman. men, the men that ok, so the lawyers for rica of course do not agree with the verdict. but they also say that the court has made an important error on empty and hooks up in chile, the supreme court decided that $9000.00 micrograms of arsenic per liter of urine all represents hom, which the swedish court did not take into consideration the bill. the lawyers are convinced that they can win on appeal on them can be not. you hold them. oh,
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i i can i see us. i got a 30 minute voting. just read the key info. ah, there it is. oh, she yes. oh handle martin, i'm sorry. it didn't work. the court now decided to apply swedish law to the case also on a lease where a place if it's the statute of limitations. yeah, don't hor, replugged. i can't believe it. they just mr. due to the statute limitations and didn't consider anything else. no,
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they took the easy way out with all the pharmacy for the commercial set up only than a comment on them. so bullied and got away with it because they did nothing all this time. they didn't act in a timely manner. and so they avoided taking responsibility a this polo saw upon his call, you can bury toxic waste and your liability ends as soon as it's in the ground. you then in 10 years it's no longer your problem. the children affected by bullied and toxic waste, have their claims barred by the statute of limitations before they're even born. or there's could be added on the photos. ah, it's 40, it's difficult to accept that justice has been done. ah, don't students get a quote from to let
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a court should have told the whole truth and but now that the court has ruled that the statute of limitations has passed levels, the truth never even got a full hearing. so we will never know what the justice system believes about bullied and his responsibility for what happened, you know, rica for this amount with we should name. all right, so citizen, it's not our fault. they got money from the government to bring that toxic waste that contaminated our life. we have to join forces and fight for justice with
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