[000:00:00;00] ah, you crease president. zalinski speaks with western heads of government almost on a daily basis, a revolving door of leaders delivering the same message. the war is lasting, longer than expected. we are behind ukraine for as long as it takes. but what does that mean on the ground? to night? ukraine says a 1000000 strong force is preparing to attack russian occupiers in the south of the country. does ukraine finally have what it needs to begin pushing the russians back? i'm break off in berlin. this is the day ah, i saw lights, the headlights of rescuers and i started screaming. i'm alive,

please get me out. every wild with this is about civilization. but what if i regained consciousness in the basement? people carried me down there. i gave myself 1st aid. and then all of a sudden, i don't know why they blew the window out. they say this is an attempt by russia to so chaos and panic behind the front lines. 1414, you are and back. also coming up the nord stream to natural gas pipeline between russia and germany never went online. nord stream one did tonight. germany of suddenly worried that the fate of $1.00 and $2.00 could be one in the say. as many these are, well, the worries are clear that the winter will be cold in the apartments and us and that it could hit the economy hard. but you, our viewers watching a b, b s, or the united states into all of the around the world. welcome,

we begin the day with the question, and is the ukrainian military now ready to strike back against the russians? 5 months into this war. and the momentum appears to be with russian forces less than 2 weeks ago. they captured half of ukraine's eastern don bass region and attacks on the other half have increased ever says, ukraine has vowed not to seat another inch of territory to russia. at the same time, ukraine appears to be preparing to launch and offensive in the south of the country, holding the line in the east and pushing back the russians. down south is ukraine now equipped with western weapons to follow through. according to cave, we will soon find out. bits of this building was still collapsing when rescue workers pulled this woman out of the rubble of her apartment . and how keith was raining dust after russia attacked the city again with

artillery rockets and tanks. many elderly citizens of ukraine have had to watch their homes crumbled. auburn, who you put in, you are what have you done? there are old people here and yet doing such bad things to them. you will burn in hell with your life. that would, what did you, how did you build the f b? i keep schools have also been hit hard efficiency. more than 180 have been lost to the war dis, one was a boarding school for children who are visually impaired. boy dd 2 of my children's study here. students, one is 14, the other is 9 years old. guilty of the cliff, farther east in the city of chassis via russian rockets landed on 3 apartment buildings killing several people. russia continues to claim that it is only

attacking targets of military value. but try telling that to those people still walk into a mountain of from brick by brick. in the whole, to finding me my 1st gift tonight says ukrainians who predict a victory against russian forces sooner rather than later, are living in a fantasy very pose and details what he calls weak reasoning by ukraine and the west. in his foreign affairs article entitled ukraine's implausible theories of victory, the fantasy of russian defeat. and the case for diplomacy. mr. posen is a political science professor at m. i t. professor present good to have you with us to night either in the, in the past 5 months or so. i've spoken with numerous military analysts from key to london to washington and they've all said the same thing if we give ukrainians the weapons that they need. they will win if we don't, this will be

a war of attrition. are they wrong on both counts here? well i think us the craniums are resupplied. ready sufficient weapons from the wes they can properly continue to defend most of the rest of their country with pretty good probability of success. the issue. ready here is can enough weapons be provided to ukraine and you can ukraine, build enough combat units and kind of power to overcome the russians. and here is that they've taken. so the situation switches or the ukrainians will be fighting out numbered in an attempt to mount a counter offensive to take back real estates. the russians will be eccentric. this is a very, very daunting task, not impossible, but very daunting. we know that the united states is providing the lion's share of weapons to ukraine, the u. k. contributing the most and among the europeans,

but that's still tiny compared to the us. and we always hear that this is superior us technology on the battlefield that the ukrainians are receiving. is there no significant advantage for the ukrainians with this? well so far that much of the technology that's been provided has been in the form of anti harbor weapons and they've been very good at the armor weapons weapons that allow ukrainians to kill tanks. a very long range is. and by the way, it's built some excellent weapons of this kind themselves. and i think the numbers and the density made it very hard for russians to launch sort of massive tank to ex, supported by infantry without suffering great casualties. but this is force the russians back into a more cautious artillery and 3 base method of attack. and they've been. ready be successful with ukrainians are getting a long shot. so now it's, you know, it's a bit of an artillery to. ready and the west built some good artillery and good artillery command control and sensors. but the numbers of the russians have on the

battlefield, really quite striking. and they have plenty of them, whether the amber was good am or not is not the question, but they have plenty of it. they're willing to shoot. if we leave the battle field for a moment and consider the economic sanctions. you right that, that the sanctions are not going to cripple russia. the way that the west is anticipating that there are analyst who would argue that the sanctions need time to take effect and that this is only month 5 of the war. what do you say to that? it's hard to argue with it. you can always say the sanctions take time to take effect. the question is trying to estimate, estimate what the long term you possibility is are, and you're up against a big facts with, with the russians. it's mostly and i'll talk economy, it's energy independent. it has plenty of arable land as industrial base as a big and talented population. it's

a very large country. it has some allies in the world that are willing to help in terms of exports and imports. they're selling oil for cash and are making good money and it's very hard to stop them. so i just don't see the pressure that the west can put on them is enough to get a capitulation. i think it might be enough to get a negotiations, a concession that you can use. i don't think it's it's, it can never put enough pressure on the russians to make the professor present. i noticed too, in your article, you write that the russians are likely to have a high tolerance for pain. are you implying that ukrainians tolerance level is lower than the russians? no, i'm not actually implying that though. i think the granny is an enormously erotic. they're clearly a very nationalistic people and so are the russians. so you're basically at some level as the war deteriorated when attrition war and a war of economic sanctions, what not, it's really, you know,

which country is willing to suffer more and which country has the deeper reserves is allowed to suffer more. and the problem is that the russians are just a bigger country than their lot bigger country. and they have a bigger economy and a bigger g d p. and the russians have managed to hurt ukraine economically in ways the quite telling. and we haven't figured out a way around yet in terms of exports. so i respect the ukranian and i think the, you, they probably, as i said in my piece, they probably can hold the russians to assume that they can hang on to much of their country because of that commitment and heroism. but the russians are also committed as well. who controls the, you know, the communications inside the country controls the media. he. ready control leads and he is, he's, he's basically told the story to his people that many seem to accept that this is a matter of national security for the russian nation states. so we can't simply

assume that the russians know they're the bad guy is and because they know they're the bad guys, they're somehow going to slink away. they don't know, they're the big companies. what you are recommending a diplomatic resolution to this conflict? any of, if i'm reading you correctly, you're suggesting maybe we should try to get both ukraine and russia to agree to maybe the pre february 24th borders i am i reading you right? and i'm not really sure what you're, you're reading too much optimism into my peace. ok. i, i believe that going get, getting an, an actual agreement on those borders will be extremely hard. right? the ukrainians are going to have to decide if they want to keep fighting, or they want to concede some or real estate, how they can see your pieces of their territory. their national patrimony is really going to be up to a negotiating kind of process. but i think we're at

a point if my analysis of these different strategies is bry, that going back to the february borders is probably not going to be a negotiable proposition. if the craniums want those borders back, they're going to have to try and fight for them. and i don't think they'll succeed, professor bury posing with it. might see it's fascinating talking with you, professor, posing and please come back as i have a feeling this more, it will have some very long legs on it. there will be opportunities to talk again. thank you. i'll be pleased to speak with you again, but said that we have to do some ah, or just as oper house closed when the russians invaded ukraine, but it's been open again since mid june. audience numbers are limited not due to cover 19 rows, but to make sure that there is space for everyone in the cellar. if there is a military attack. the w corresponded emmanuel shaw's reports on an evening of

ballet in the middle of a war. this as offer a house survived to major fires and 2 world wars. now sandbags surround the building once again but its open. despite the rush, an invasion or from an unprepared of our 1st interview is interrupted by an air red alarm. we all had to, the sellers was like ocean, the ocean tissue. logan was gone. you know, it's very hard before the war. we had a certain amount of time to prepare for the performance. but now, in 20 minutes, there should be a performance. and we can't rehearse because of the alarm opposed for many mornings . heavy i'm hurt and i feel sorry we were getting ready waiting to get on stage every minute the artists are not moving, they cool down. they will have to get focused again very quickly and get on the stage for the audience. are you still with me about the audience is also waiting out the air read,

alarm underground. garage. we're from fair song. what did it, how do you think we feel? with misters for it's a weird situation when this happens that we feel bad and it's tense watchers from prison. rational. it's scary. sometimes we just 11 normal quiet moments and then it's ruined my guess the with it. it's the same everywhere. oh she, they just thought of that way here at the theater, for the 1st time. that good of us, where from her keith? ah, the alarm cost them an hour. but now only are to matters. ah. they play many classics from mazda to makers and ukrainian composes. yet for this

night of ballet, there is no rush in music. ah, to show finishes in time for everyone to get home before cuz you with them. so we really enjoyed it. it feels much better here. calmer, more beautiful lives during wartime. but to night was a little rest bites. ah, but when does annual maintenance of a pipeline become a possible weapon of war? here in germany, the government hopes that never have to find out the nord stream. one pipeline is the largest pipeline supplying russian natural gas to germany. it went offline to day for repairs that are scheduled to last 10 days, but the government is apparently concerned that those 10 days could last indefinitely. would russia turn the taps off to exert political pressure on germany

and the west payback for those stinging economic sanctions? slapped on moscow when the invasion of ukraine began. it's a worse case scenario that europe needs to be prepared for. that was the warning to day. from germany's economy minister, robert hob comes zion, dusty gas neutral gas deliveries may resume and full to have even been stipends from russia that effectively announced this. but deliveries may also remain at 0 because a minor technical issue is discovered that cannot be repaired. and we can assume that this is a pretext to keep the pipeline shot for before my goodness. i'm doing now by benjamin smith. he's a research associate at harvard university and senior fellow for democratic resilience at the center for european policy analysis. benjamin is going to see again we've spoken countless times about the dangers of nord stream to to european

energy security. people may be surprised to learn that germany is still relying on nord stream. one. what would be your message to them? while brand, it's good to see you. and i mean the message is the same thing that we've been talking about for years at north stream to north 31 like northridge, 2 is not just a commercial deal. in other words, it is an implement that russia has been using and will continue to use as long as we allow them to when the west to weaponized energy, to undermine cohesive western resolve, to push back on russia's illegal war of aggression against ukraine. and so when we've seen these headlines over the past several weeks, the last time i was on the show about, i'd say about roughly a month ago, was that right? basically when the 1st gas cut off through north 31 were impacting germany downstream in the netherlands. france and elsewhere. and robert hop back the economy minister came out and made it very clear that the stated supposed purported reason for this. that,

that gas problem stated that they needed these siemens turbines that were undergoing repairs in canada, but couldn't be transferred back to the russian federation due to very well grounded technology. export control measures needed to come back and order them for them to get the, the gas up and running again through nordstrom, one in hub that came out of the time and made it very clear what we've all concluded in the community for some time. these are not, you know, this is a pretext, this is not actually justification for what they're doing, what russia is doing is weapon ising gas flows right now toward germany to undermine its response to ukraine. what do you make now of canada agreed to return the repaired turbine to germany that is needed for nord stream to apparently think this will be an exception to the sanctions regime against russia. it look brent. it's an incredibly dangerous precedent that, that berlin basically made it very clear habit came out, made it very clear that this is all pretext,

that there's no technical justification. but basically, the, the shop administration still pushed canada push drops or turned out, which ottawa, to release these turbines and send them back. you know, at 1st the story was that there was one turbine and now it's actually thick turbine . on the canadians are releasing these to germany in germany via the demons, who by the way, has already been caught up in major siemens turbine sanction scandals in 2014, 15 for transferring via the russian federation. you know, the russians basically taking stevens turbines and moving to to illegally occupied crimea. the idea that they've done this again, the idea that germany has pressured pressure on what to basically carve out an area of a technology export control regime to get these turbines back. for a reason that is, pure pretext is, is really concerning. and it even further concerning is an american that we have the state department now coming out today and endorsing this policy and thing that

did this action somehow help you're a pushback on energy weapon is ation. it's frankly ludicrous. dance for what's going on here. that's how it's being sold here. the benjamin is that this exception is being allowed to help germany until it is no longer dependent on russian energy . yeah, the problem with that is basically that, that russia is looking at a, you know, a weapon, evasion of everything, like a multi disciplinary pushback on all of these sanctions. and so it's not just on energy that you're seeing a problem here. you're seeing an opening in technology sanctions that were well founded and placed on the russian federation and opening a loophole there that, that russia will be basically continued to exploit. in my opinion, i believe that this will only embolden pollutant to make more, you know, fanciful claims of justifying. it justifying a cut off because quote unquote,

technical issues. when we all know that the main motivation puts back on, on germany, in support of the crate is i've got 30 seconds here. me. you think that the chances of russia keeping the taps turned off longer than 10 days? that that chance is pretty good. i think it's extremely high and why there is a long proven track record of booting weaponized energy all last year. you and i talked about run up to this war. why not injecting gas volumes into the gas storage facilities that their own state own enterprises own in operate in western western europe? that's why germany needs to take steps to expropriate. all of the drug gas storage facilities that gas from owns in western europe to help fill those up and also sever physically cut a partner string to in plug in a floating storage and we got the vacation unit administer the internet a few weeks ago. so that non russian l n g can get in through that port and use that that infrastructure looming germany bridge rich met with harvard university.

benjamin is always fascinating talking with you. i'm sure we'll be talking again soon. thank you. thanks a lot brand. appreciate it. ah, how far it was uber willing to go to drive out competition from taxi's, apparently to for a joint investigation by d. w. and more than 40 media outlets reveals how uber aggressively lobbied governments and potentially even skirted some walls. as it expanded its rhine sharing service. a trove of leaked documents suggest uber hid information from investigators in the netherlands by remotely killing internal devices in its amsterdam office. it also details the close relationship between uber and then french economy minister emanuel mack wrong at a time when the company was trying to avoid french regulations. micron gave the company direct access to his staff while over more

now i am joined here at the big table by my colleague christy plaza, from dw business school to have you here by the table. i mean, uber is now we have to say, established all over western europe here in berlin. can we say it succeeded in getting rid of its competition? i. e, the taxi drivers, well, actually took a taxi here today, so there's at least one tax. they still out there i can take, but i mean in all seriousness, you're absolutely right that all the major european hubs. goober has definitely made a huge den. but i mean if we look closer just here at home in germany, for example, midsize cities, not even talking about smaller towns and more rural areas. in many areas, it's not made much of a dent at all. and this is kind of exactly the classic story we get about american tech companies like over coming over here to europe. they think that they can keep extending at the rate they were in the u. s. but there's unions, there's regulation that they're coming up against. tax unions in europe, especially in france, are very strong. so they're definitely still taxi drivers out there in these new

revelations. and they paint an ugly picture of uber management tactics here. right . i mean it's, it's pretty bad look for them, but to be honest, this is something that is not very surprising coming from this company. i have to say if we look over their history from the last 10 plus years, we've seen many scandals, a lot of instances of potentially unethical or illegal activities. so that's maybe not a major shocker here. i mean, but it is, the details are quite interesting and who's involved? i mean, you mentioned that this, this kill switch which was supposed to keep it dutch regulators away from the data supposedly. um and yeah, also when we're talking about m out my crohn's involvement involvement here as well . also talking about france, there were some accusations that over actually was sort of exploiting violence from protest. taxi protests against uber drivers. really elevating that in the media to try to help their argument with regulators are what a static violence who is

a good thing for the company. basically, it seems over apparently also had help or at least a sympathetic ear from some big name political leaders here in europe. right. i'd like to talk about macro again for this has been the major scandal in france today . and this is also such a classic scandal for macro to be at the center of as well. i mean, the accusation is that he had a moral, a secret deal with uber. that's of course, you know, remains to be seen helping them skirt around regulation that was designed to sort of protect workers, protect these taxi drivers in france. but i say it's classic in the sense that macros known for his, his pro business, centrist attitudes about things. he says he didn't do anything wrong. he was economists that ministers job to talk to these kinds of companies. but of course, we just have a election here in france. we've got a strong leftist voice coming out of the country right now. and they're eager to

pin him with with the sort of negative pro business. the agenda we've got about 30 seconds. i mean, is there going to be the negative fallout for the company? a lot of these things we suspected, you know, so what, yeah, great question. i mean, i think that we look at the greater picture here. we're seeing us sort of slow, but steady advancement for uber. we also see over eats as a major presence here as well. so i don't know, they don't, they don't seem to be held back much by this. it's a long slog, but yeah, fighting it. it's like i was saying it be the of the show. i think most people have uber the app on their phone apps. yeah. now kristi is always thank you. thanks friend. well, the day it is almost done, but the conversation that continues online, you'll find us on twitter either at the w news, you can follow me on twitter at break. got tv and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody who's

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